The House has agreed to debate the Senate version of Trump's Big Beautiful Bill (sans SHORT/HPA) after the few remaining Republicucks fell in line. This is basically a pre-vote that almost always follows the results of the upcoming actual vote (politics are retarded).

Republicans have now used up any and all 2A political capital for the next decade. I hope your $200 coupon was worth it, you spineless bastards. And now the precedent is set for Demoids to make the tax $2 gorrilion next time they have control.

>>63932282 (OP)
monkey's paw curls, wait times go back to a year+ between increase demand and ATF defunding

It is over. Poised to be an unanimous vote to pass. Only 1 No on procedural.

>>63932289
>year is 2030
>another finger curls
>wait times are now same-day
>ATF agents responsible for processing NFA forms get paid to do nothing all day
>Dems control the government and raise the $0 tax to $20,000 in a tax bill
>entire suppressor market collapses
>SBRs and suppressors are now effectively soft-banned post-2030 a-la post-1986 machine guns

Section 70436. Reduction of transfer and manufacturing taxes for certain devices
(a)Transfer tax
Section 5811(a) is amended to read as follows:

(a)Rate
There shall be levied, collected, and paid on firearms transferred a tax at the rate of—

(1)$200 for each firearm transferred in the case of a machinegun or a destructive device, and
(2)$0 for any firearm transferred which is not described in paragraph (1).
.

(b)Making tax
Section 5821(a) is amended to read as follows:

(a)Rate
There shall be levied, collected, and paid upon the making of a firearm a tax at the rate of—

(1)$200 for each firearm made in the case of a machinegun or a destructive device, and
(2)$0 for any firearm made which is not described in paragraph (1).
.

(c)Conforming amendment
Section 4182(a) is amended by adding at the end the following: For purposes of the preceding sentence, any firearm described in section 5811(a)(2) shall be deemed to be a firearm on which the tax provided by section 5811 has been paid.

(d)Effective date
The amendments made by this section shall apply to calendar quarters beginning more than 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

So, what's the cope for this? Now that its $0 it can be argued that its a register or something? Huffing hopium that someone in the future will argue that its unconstitutional and finally give us unregulated sbrs and cans

>>63932282 (OP)
wow we got kiked by the uniparty kikestablishment i am shocked i tell you truly shocked i thought my red team would represent my interests this is so shocking how they just waste their majority in congress and run out the clock until the blue team kikes swap in next year i am so shocked how no progress ever gets made on restoring my rights even when my team is in power this is truly shocking you would think red team kikes would do what we elected them to do and put americans first instead of israel man maybe theyll abolish the NFA as a single issue bill next week surely any day now my red team kikes will do what i voted for them to do right?

>>63932410
The copium best case scenario is in ten years they rule that a $0 tax is de facto registration, which is explicitly illegal, and remove suppressors and SBRs.

>>63932282 (OP)
I’m glad the Nigga We Fucking Hate You bill will pass and pass along some NFA savings to me

>>63932396
>>63932396
>(2)$0 for any firearm made which is not described in paragraph (1).
so they still define suppressors as a firearm which means you still need to kike out with the FBI gun registry so basically this was just a token to distract us into thinking we got something and we stop bothering them but they didnt lose anything and keep on having their database of meddlesome goys who have weapons

>>63932418
thats right in the middle of scheduled ww3 with china and russia so we will be living under martial law by then and all weapons in private hands will have been rounded up or their owners killed.

>>63932282 (OP)
You sound as stupid as the republicans that voted against the HPA

>>63932432
>scheduled ww3 with china and russia
Against who?

>>63932282 (OP)
>Republicans have now used up any and all 2A political capital for the next decade.
The worst part about all of this is they're gonna hold it over our heads for the foreseeable future to show how BASED AND 2Apilled they are for upcoming elections. Remember to vote red, gun nuts. Israel needs your vote. Don't forget how we hypothetically saved you two hundred whole shekels given you were already willing to cuck out and NFA register your gun.

I would have preferred nothing, and I don't feel ungrateful that a $200 tax I was never going to pay is now $0.

>>63932319
>2030
>Dems control
Unless Trump gets us into a nuclear war we're not going to see a Democrat president for the next 12 years at least, possibly even longer.

>>63932467
All it would take is MAGAGTOW (Republican infighting) and for the Dems to actually have a decent candidate who appeals to moderates and is openly anti-woke. This will probably not happen but is pretty plausible. Either that or they just rig the election.

>>63932282 (OP)
Spoiler alert: republicans don’t care about 2A rights just like the democrats

>>63932477
The silver lining is most Dems don't actually care about banning gun rights as much as most Republicans don't actually care about liberating gun rights. It's niche party demagogues on both sides seeking minor wins. The death of Feinstein is probably the best thing to ever happen for the 2A since the AWB sunsetted.

>>63932282 (OP)
Watch me just continue to do everything I want anyway.

>>63932282 (OP)
>precedent is set for Demoids to
oh noo muh heckin precedent! You demoralizer fags are retarded. Dem voters are the biggest group of tax stamp owners cause they're all fags who actually comply with unconstitutional registration

>>63932502
>>63932495
Post your illegal firearms

>>63932444
Martians

>>63932411
They're not wasting time destroying whole government departments and stuff. More pristine innawoods getting sold off. All to abandon Europe for Israel. No refunds I guess

>>63932515
Except that was removed from the bill already and has been brought up numerous times in prior threads

>>63932515
>destroying whole government departments and stuff
Noice
>More pristine innawoods getting sold off
Not noice
Idgaf about what happens outside America, I'm fucking pissed about the land sell off though

>>63932502
>Dem voters are the biggest group of tax stamp owners

yeah sure lol

>>63932526
the land selloff was dropped due to public pressure, some anons keep mentioning it as a talking point though

>>63932512
I for one would welcome them as liberators

>muh gun registry!!!

you register your gun every time you do paperwork at a gunstore. you have a paper trail of googling ammo and accessories, you post pics of your gun online. if they WANTED to give a shit about confiscating guns, they would but they don't because guns wont matter when robot soldiers become a thing.

>>63932538
Really happy the land sale got dropped

>>63932544
A 4473 is way different than NFA items in terms of record keeping moron

>>63932546
Even if it passed, I am hopeful of another situation like the Bundy ranch one where one crazed nutter foils a government plot to sell off land directly to China

>>63932554
>one crazed nutter foils a government plot to sell off land directly to China

it so funny how retards keep mentioning the bundy standoff like it wasn't ANOTHER situation where 2a retards got conned into defending a greedy land owner.

>>63932548
The records reported and kept by 4473 is sufficient for confiscations. Hell, even FRT confiscations happened with less information. Nobody likes this and it’s not excusable but don’t act like one is that much better than the other.

>>63932538
Oh shit for real? I know they axed the AI protection law but I hadn't heard anything about the land

I've never done a NFA item before but now that it's gonna be 0 dollars I wanna get a Kel-Tec CMR-30 (yeah I know) and put a stock and a can on it. How does it work?

Do I buy a pistol CMR then go on some website or something to apply for the SBR and can stamps?

>>63932568
there are dozens of guides online that walk you through this process.

>>63932556
I don't remember seeing anyone defend the government that wasn't a paid stooge

>>63932568
Get a copy of a digital file of your fingerprints from somewhere, set up an account with the ATF and write down your username and PIN, buy the NFA item, get it transferred to your FFL, show up and fill out the paperwork and provide them with a photo of your face and the fingerprint file.

>>63932512
How to get a Martian wife?

>>63932581
For SBR stamp it's not a NFA item till I put the stock on it right? If I buy the pistol first how does it work? I wanna buy one, make sure it works before putting in the paper work

Round 2 of nu-/k/ and its poltard infestation desperately trying to spin an objective win for gun owners as a crushing defeat

>>63932512
I have to ask is this meant to represent a martian death ray being dropped or some guy decided to ride a rocket and guide it into the martian leg?

>>63932476
>for the Dems to actually have a decent candidate who appeals to moderates and is openly anti-woke.
They just elected an open communist in NYC

>>63932579
>ignores topic, attacks poster

2a people DESPERATELY wanted the bundy standoff to be legit because its the first time in like 50 years they got to see armed citizens 'do something' vs. the government. too bad they were all conned by a family of rich morons.

>>63932467
>>63932476
Retard tier wishful thinking.

>>63932476
>the Dems to actually have a decent candidate who appeals to moderates and is openly anti-woke
>pretty plausible
lol. lmao.

>>63932618
>in NYC
There you go, shit in the toilet is not a surprise

>>63932560
What you retards don't seem to understand about "ooo scary list" is that it is NOT A REGISTRY. Obviously it could become one, but as it stands it is not. That means it can't be used as a registry in legal cases, so it's literally a non issue
>Get knock at the door
>Erm hello Mr.Chud president shekelstein banned AR's you need to turn them in
would only happen if
1. There was some grossly unconstitutional firearms ban forced into law
2. A Federal registry is formally created that feds can actually use in the courts.
>but but but the feds know I bought Ruger 10/22 from Cabela's in 2017!
So what? There is nothing they can legally do with that information

>>63932587

>>63932636
Considering their two current darlings for 2028 are fucking AOC and Newsom, yeah, not looking too hot

>>63932618
the election hasnt even happened yet, retard

The entire last 30 years of American politics has been a disastrous joke. Still kicking the can and not making any real hard decisions to fix the money problem
>sell land to foreign investors to cover fucking interest payments
It's not that it got taken off the table, it's that the suggestion wasn't laughed out of the room immediately.

Dark days coming sooner than later. Lose some firearms in a boating accident.

>>63932644
You mean Harris you sperg

>>63932476
>any of this
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wew. The Democrats are masters of doubling down and completely denying reality, we're watching the death of the Democrat party.

>>63932648
>doomposting about american gun rights that have been steadily improving for most people

>Shills went from gloating to crashing out
Fuentcels always lose

>>63932648
>Lose some firearms in a boating accident.
No, I don't think I will. Come get em faggot

>magats sperging
It's just wokism but for republicans. Warriortard was spamming reports yesterday for anyone that dared question daddy trump here, if that tells you anything about how organic these posts are.

>>63932544
Missed the part where buying a gun requires finger print, photo, and updated information about the location of the gun every time you need to travel out of state or move addresses.

>>63932671
Calm down Nigel.

>>63932672
>and updated information about the location of the gun every time you need to travel
this is the worst part

>>63932677
when was the last time you even left your state lol

>>63932674
>couldn't help but reply
Ok ivan lmao https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63699134/#63702696

>>63932282 (OP)
They should increase the tax stamp cost to $2000

>>63932686
You're a lolcow, its fun to poke you.

>>63932683
Back in February for work, the whole you need to update your information every time you move is unnecessary

>>63932671
Seethe. You lost.

>>63932700
What did you win?

>>63932710
0 dollar tax stamps that can be argued in court as an unconstitutional registry.

>>63932691
Yes you are warriortard, yes you are. That's why you're still replying to me, farthuffer.

>>63932720
Im in your walls!

Genuine question: Is there a single destitute poorfag on this entire board who was perfectly willing to go through the NFA registration process and was stopped by and only by the trivial $200 tax? If so, please describe your use case and job because I don't fucking believe you.

>>63932655
Are you an actual fucking retard

>>63932714
>The Supreme Court will surely save us this time!
Wow hopium sure is easier than making your representatives fight for you.

>>63932735
Its more about not having to pay 600 bucks when I could pay 50.

>>63932723
>still replying
Amazing how much magatard spam dies down while you're seething at getting nooooticed

>>63932735
For me it’s always been the registry process stopping me from kitting every gun I own with a suppressor. I genuinely don’t care about 200 more shekels.

>>63932742
Cope, we got the 0 dollars in because we called.

>>63932741
>no argument
I accept your defeat

>>63932749
Im eating your wall insulation Nigel!

>>63932655
Where

>>63932750
Yes, that's the point of the post. I find it hard to believe this shit matters to anyone. You aren't not getting a $600 suppressor to put on your $1k+ rifle because it's costing you an extra $200 in tax. The only ones this helps are faggots like >>63932744 who were already going to go NFA anyways.

Why does this bill infuriate our resident polcels exactly?

>>63932761
Seethe nigger

>>63932756
Yes, surely only the brits are tired of having a russian ran discord group shilling here.

>>63932763
Because it didn’t make Nick Fuentes super president of the union. If they lived in any sense of reality they’d have a more nuanced view

>>63932770
You call everyone a Russian agent lmao

>>63932763
Because the Republicuck MIGAs in Congress are perfectly willing to spend as much political capital on shit no one gives a fuck about like giving a morbillion dollars to Israel but have not in decades done a single fucking thing for 2A despite being the supposed 2A party. And now they're going to hold the $200 coupon over our heads for at least the next two election cycles and do absolutely nothing else.

>>63932410
The NFA, as determined by the Supreme Court, is only legal because it's a tax and not a gun law. If you aren't paying money to the government for the permission to do something, then it's no longer a tax - so at that point, you could argue to a court that it's just pointless and ask them to throw it out entirely.

It's wishful thinking, since the opposite logic was used by the Senate to remove the HPA and SHORT acts from the tax bill to begin with (that is to say, the NFA restrictions were seen as gun laws and NOT tax laws) - so "they" will very much pick and choose which definition to use based on what's convenient at the time.

>>63932775
Kanye will never be president child

>>63932773
Feel free to click my above link to your moscow time fucky wucky :3

>>63932775
go outside, speak to women

>>63932786
Now Im eating your pipes Nigel! You cant stop me!

>>63932788
I'm gay

>>63932763
When you're a mindbroken, demoralized accelerationist, wins are the exact opposite of what you want, no matter how small.

>>63932792
We know, all Groypers are

Update
GOA says the bill will pass, they are switching to the Judicial strategy.

>>63932777
The Supreme Court has been blatantly and willfully ignoring the constitution for nearly a century. Do you know how they interpret the Commerce Clause to this day?? You're a gullible smug little clown if you think the SC is going to do shit because the tax is dropped. You didn't even stick to your point because you immediately followed it up by pointing out how the Byrd Ruling was bullshit so you ended up saying nothing on net.

>2015+10
>HPA and SHORT fails
>/k/ therefore defends the NFA
You can’t make this shit up lads

>>63932742
What are you talking about? The HPA/SHORT act only got in in the first place because of people calling their representatives. The Clyde amendment was introduced after the previous were gutted to $0 (that would remove suppressors/SBR's from NFA) but it unfortunately wasn't accepted, mostly due to the gay "activist" Democrat politicians

>>63932797
>wins
Let me guess, you have a JD?

>Giving the government less money is... le bad
Buncha Democrats and Fuentes fans in here

>>63932802
In ten years when this finally reaches the courts and is denied as anyone who isn't retarded is suspecting, these faggots will still be saying
>weLL At LeAsT wE Don'T hAve to PaY the $200 TAX ANYMOre

>>63932752
>Social media activism has turned into phone activism
Good boy. You’re taking master’s scraps from the floor between beatings.

>>63932807
Can you speak in a manner that those of us who don't spend every waking moment on /pol/ can understand?

>>63932818
JD = law degree

>>63932655
harris would win by a landslide if she would wear her hyena fursuit while campaigning and promise to pour funding into biolabs to develop genetically engineered anthro yeenwives. maybe in a better timeline.

>>63932817
>Calling Representatives is bad now
Lol

>>63932763
Anything that doesn't automatically allow them to rape every woman and shoot anyone that doesn't precisely align with their schizophrenic political ideologies is deemed a defeat.

>>63932818
go back to school
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juris_Doctor

>>63932823
anything other than political terrorism isn't enough for people who just want to be entertained

>>63932820
>>63932827
Cool that still makes zero sense :)

>>63932830
What kind of cuckold refuses to act but demands others commit terror acts? You're pathetic.

The fuck is this /pol/spam about Spic Fuentes about? Is he their new boogeyman or something?

>>63932752
>we got a massive loss because we called
Thanks for fucking over any chance at fixing the NFA. The $200 coupon is worse than the status quo because the Republisharts will give us NOTHING for decades.

>>63932836
Nonsensical, Republicans dont care about gun rights until we pressured them.

>>63932830
>>63932833
lol ChatGPT got confused and replied to its own post.

>anyone who disagrees with you is a groyper Nick Fuentes fan, which means you don't have to use your minimal 20 IQ brain's thinking power to consider their arguments because they already disagreed with you (you are the best)
You niggers are literal children, worse than Leddit users almost. The only reason I know who this faggot spic is is because of his schizo haters.

>>63932841
and you got absolutely nothing of value out of it, what a shock!

>>63932847
>Free tax stamps that are unconstitutional and can be thrown out is nothing
Little boy, Bush wanted to extend the AWB, things are improving.

>>63932849
>that are unconstitutional and can be thrown out is nothing
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat this, it won't ever become true. >>63932802

>malding over being called out for being Groypers
You worship a gay catboy who loves a black cuckold, lmao.

>>63932846
If you don’t like being called a groyper then don’t act like one friendo :^)

>>63932835
Like the opposite essentially. Anyone who isn't sucking circumcised Israeli cock in thanks for the $200 coupon is this gay Mexican's boyfriend, according to this schizo retard who has been shitting up every single BBB thread

Andy Beshear 2028
THEY CAN'T KEK OUR BUCK

>>63932588
Yep, fill out a form 1 on the ATF site for intent to construct an SBR

>>63932855
It doesn't matter how many times you cope, we are making progress

>>63932858
i haven't seen the word groyper used on /k/ for months.

>>63932859
>Muh Israel
Say hi to nicky for me

I figure this thread to be deleted soon. The BBW bill should have removed nfa restrictions and it also should have banned ar15s unless they have irons and plastic handguards. No magpul meme handguards either. Car15 or triangle only. Oh also no more 9mm polymer strikershits either

>>63932319
>Don't comply
>Not my problem

>>63932735
1400 for the two suppressors I want is easier to stomach than 1800 and now I can spend the $400 difference on enough ammo for 2-3 range trips. not to mention the whole defacto registry part.
>inb4 muh supreme court wont save you
thats what you doomer faggots said about cc until bruen. you retards let demoralization shills and doomers get in your head way too much. like 1/3rd of this board is a bunch of incels doomposting with a chip on their shoulder because they get zero pussy while refusing to improve themselves and another 1/3 is a bunch of jeets and chinks paid below minimum wage and pathetic desk jockey feds trying to get you to give up. don't let these people ruin you.

Sweet, waits are down to just a few days and now I don't have to pay anything. Was hoping suppressors and SBRs would get removed, and dreaming of the NFA getting nuked as a whole, but I'll take a step forwards over nothing.

I want to see every single non-gun Republican talking point reversed by the Dems just so they will have to actually try to make firearmsfags vote for them.

>import every single illegal who wants in
>give every pregnant woman an abortion
>socialize the healthcare system
>tax everyone above minimum wage 99%
>make being white illegal
>put a $100/gallon tax on every non-green fossil fuel

>>63932282 (OP)
>>63932432
>>63932448
I've been too busy with work over the last month to be on 4chan or really even read much news. What's the tldr on this? No more suppressor stamps or something?

>>63932618
Literal moron if you think any of his policies are communism

>>63932881
>10 posts by this ID

>>63932881
based actual gun owner response

>>63932862
Thanks anon, gonna order a CMR. Make sure it's good to go. Then start the paper work

>>63932884
Stamps are now 0 dollars making it a trivial process with e filing

>>63932885
Retarded post

>>63932879
>doomposting with a chip on their shoulder because they get zero pussy
Literal caveman brain cannot even conceive of making an argument without mentioning sex
>unga bunga

>>63932863
1. The BBB is an economic disaster on the whole.
2. NOBODY - ZERO PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY - will buy a suppressor/SBR/SBS because of the $200 coupon who hadn't already cucked out and gave into NFA registration.
3. The Republicans will wave this complete failure in our faces every time we ask for something going forward. "We gave you your coupon! What else do you want from us!?!"

It's a loss. Accept it.

>>63932887
What?

>>63932896
.t bases his entire nihilistic worldview on the fact that girls dont talk to him

>>63932894
I know literacy is at record lows in this country but surely you can define the difference between a democratic socialist and a communist, right anon?

>>63932884
process is entirely the same but now SBR and suppressor stamps don't cost $200

>>63932898
post hand and gun

>>63932902
NTA; can you?

>>63932898
1. You're a shill
2. You're coping
3. You're seething
Hope that makes things clear

>>63932891
>trivial process
good goy

>>63932900
I'm gay

>>63932909
Just dont comply if paperwork scares you

>>63932899
the scripting got a bit messed up, don't worry about it

>>63932912
You're a groyper we know

>>63932891
>>63932904
Seems kinda nice. Why are half these retards screeching over it

>>63932898
>2. NOBODY - ZERO PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY - will buy a suppressor/SBR/SBS because of the $200 coupon who hadn't already cucked out and gave into NFA registration.
I will

>>63932921
They want us to commit terror acts against the government while they sit and do nothing.

>>63932879
>Grug fuck many Gruggette
>Grug happy
>Grug tell other Grug
>Grug cool now

>>63932927
you're lying

>>63932902
>MUH NOT REAL COMMUNISM
I can't believe we're still doing this in the year of our Lord two thousand and twenty five.

>>63932921
>Why are half these retards screeching over it
>>63932282 (OP)
>Republicans have now used up any and all 2A political capital for the next decade
>And now the precedent is set for Demoids to make the tax $2 gorrilion next time they have control.

>>63932933
Wrong

>>63932938
>incel doomposting
Yawn, go outside

>>63932938
>precedent is set for Demoids to make the tax $2 gorrilion
They could always do that. Why do you keep saying this? Are you retarded? Do you have brain damage?

>nu/k/ loves registration as long as it's free
What an absolute tragedy. I guess this board really is only still around as a cover for /meg/ recruitment

>>63932936
You can just say you don’t know what you’re talking about and that you would’ve been a moron during the Red Scare as well

>>63932945
Maybe if you called instead of screaming at US gun owners to shoot up government buildings we would have more.

>>63932914
you've simultaneously seen the light, and missed the point entirely

>>63932941
what now?

weren't people making this sort of talk when constitutional carry was passed in most states?
>UHHH NOW THEY CAN JUST BLANKET BAN IT BECAUSE [Complicated Conspiracy]!

>>63932950
Oh you're a commie faggot. No wonder you're so butthurt lmao.

>>63932950
The Red Scare was 100% justified. Disney was smeared as an antisemite because he shut down communist attempts to take over his studio.

>>63932921
it's an entire cohort of zoomers that got hooked on accelerationist and doomer mindsets from political grifters on Twitter

>>63932950
>red scare
McCarthy was right by the way

>>63932955
Whats your point? You always could not comply.

>>63932954
I did call. I told Thomas Massie and Rand Paul to vote for the BBB no matter how bad the rest of it is as long as it includes deregistration of suppressors/SBRs/SBSs. Turns out Trump, Vance, and Johnson are turbofag antigunners (remember how Obama accomplished 0 antigun measures but Trump banned bumpstocks?) who won't override a blatantly incorrect interpretation of the Byrd rule. So my representatives did the right thing and voted "no" on this dogshit bill.

>>63932973
>Called people who basically vote no on principle to vote no.
Thanks I guess

>>63932967
>>63932961
>>63932959

you just want to say 'commie' as a millennial without sounding like a larper.

>>63932959
>>63932961
The Red Scare was used as a cudgel to purity test anyone who didn’t swear loyalty to selling our country off to private interests, like you’re doing right now lmao. Our economy and society in the 50’s looked a lot more like Mamdani’s vision than what it is today, but sure, I bet if we lower wealthy people’s taxes to even lower historic lows then it’ll all come full circle!

>>63932973
5/10

>>63932979
Wrong

>>63932969
You're slowly starting to get it

>>63932973
>vote no on principle
This is the state of mind of your average Trumper. They think that two of the only actual conservatives in DC vote "no" on 3-5 trillion dollars of additional deficit spending with zero 2A wins solely for shits and giggles.

>>63932987
You always could not comply anon, but noncompliance is annoying if you want to do anything but magdump trash at 20 feet.

Man, I remember when the AWB sunset, went out and bought AR15s with my dad. Was a great time

>>63932988
intended for >>63932976

>>63932966
>>63932863
>>63932809
>>63932803
>accepting a series of shitty half measure reforms

>>63932978
>>63932979
>literal communist gets elected
>NO IT'S NOT REAL COMMUNISM IT'S LENINIST SOCIAL DEMOCRATIC PEEPEEPOOPOO
It's communism.

>>63932994
I'm afraid that was actually a dark time for gun owners, you're not a true conservative

>>63932999
>>literal communist gets elected
Where?

>>63932998
Two half measures make a whole measure

>>63932988
Rand Paul has a history of doing that

>>63932998
dumb bot included a post that agreed with it lol

>>63933001
I dunno, during the AWB I was shooting 1911s and 38 special with my dad. Felt like good times to me

>>63933002
NYC. Please pay attention.

>>63933003
nah, you need about 95 of them

>>63932899
/pol/tard tourist or bot forgot he wasn't on /pol/

>>63933007
Sorry you were just tricked into thinking that, we actually always lose and can never comment ever win

If these morons were around in 2004 when the AWB expired theyd be crying because people are buying semi auto ARs instead of machineguns and that the AWB should be continued because its not everything

>>63933001
>conservative
You're not an American

>>63933008
He wasn't elected. Pay attention. The election happens in November.

>>63932979
>Our economy and society in the 50’s looked a lot more like Mamdani’s vision than what it is today,
Woah! He wants to bring back legal segregation and make America 80% non-hispanic white?!

>>63933005
It truly boggles my mind how someone divorced from the swamp of politics (I assume you're not a lizardperson, my bad if you are) could listen to Rand Paul clearly outline how the massive deficit spending we've been engaging in is guaranteed to bankrupt the country and plunge us into a massive economic disaster and go "lol he votes no cuz he thinks it funny".

>>63933014
The fact we went from an AWB to a no AWB world says otherwise. Are you a zoomer?

>>63932973
>Actually Trump is anti-gun gun and Democrats are pro-gun
Been so long since I've seen this shilled. Must be getting desperate, running out of talking points.

>>63933023
Rand Paul is a meme

>>63933015
I bet you cheered for the Hughes amendment because "muh interstate travel," you fucking nigger

>>63933027
Of course Democrats are anti-gun as well. Pretending that the only president in the current century (25 years!) to successfully push an anti-2A measure through isn't anti-gun is clownworld shit.

>>63932989
>if you want to do anything but magdump trash
Not true at all. In fact, you can noncomply completely and literally nobody will know or care.

good God I wish I could see how many of you are samefagging because there is no way this entire board is this fucking retarded

>>63933023
We all agree with him. However we also know that it can't be fixed. The deficit is because of welfare, SS, and Medicaid/Medicare. There is zero political capital to fix that and there never will be. So, you have to make sure the economy grows faster than the debt and hope for the best.

Idealism < pragmatism.

>>63933025
90% he's mocking the neurotic hand-wringing from the doomers in here

>>63933032
Post guns

>>63933027
>Trump supports red flag laws
>Trump EO bans bump stocks
>Trump successfully kills SHORT and HPA
>Trump is a lifelong democrat until the early 2010s
TRUMP LOVES GUNS THOUGH GUISE

>>63933036
Id rather not be on camera committing felonies

>>63933037
Making multiple responses in a thread without a name attached to them isn't samefagging. Samefagging is when you respond to yourself pretending to be someone else.

You're all sick people.
I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.
I put a curse upon you all.
Fuck ya
mudda

>>63933033
>Noo my hekkin bumperinos
>Ignors everything Trump has done for gun rights
>Ignors all the things Obama did to curtail them
You're a shill simple as

>>63933045
>>Trump successfully kills SHORT and HPA
There it is. Theres the new narrative. Post guns

>>63933053
>Ignors everything Trump has done for gun rights
It's spelled "Ignores" but I'd be happy to backtrack on my statements if you can point out the pro-2A achievements Trump has made and the anti-2A achievements of Obama

>>63933059
Obama banned VEPRs newfag

>>63933059
>if you can point out the pro-2A achievements Trump has made and the anti-2A achievements of Obama
Someone who cares about the 2A should know. It shouldn't need to be said. Curious that you don't know, curious that it needs to be said.

Okay, here is the deal. You post guns and then I will answer your question in extreme detail.

>>63933058
Literally all they had to do to include SHORT and HPA was say "fuck you" to the Parliamentarian. It's actually that easy. Would there be political fallout when the dems take the house and senate and start ignoring the Parliamentarian in the late 2030s? Yes. Does it matter? No.

>>63933061
>russian sanctions are a gun ban
fucking lmao
>>63933063
>I will write a fanfic for you if you post guns
I'm good, bot. I was around for Obama and Trump, I already know you're hallucinating again.

>>63933071
>Banning gun imports isnt a gun ban
You're a Democrat shill

>>63933064
Parliamentarian gutted their BBB and IRA bills big time. They obeyed.

You're a shill. Your goal is to attack Trump regardless of either the facts or reality. It's clear and obvious. Until you post guns, you'll get nothing but mockery.

>>63933059
>and the anti-2A achievements of Obama
Yeah you don't own guns and aren't from here. Begone.

>>63933049
What felonies?

>>63933075
its not and you are now reaching.

>>63933071
> Obama > Trump for 2A
>No I can't post guns
Real pajeet hours up in here.

>>63933080
Huh?

>>63933080
is this the famous "I don't believe this law is constitutional so it isn't a felony!" low-IQ 2A enthusiast defense?

>>63932998
>he’s mad that the HPA and SHORT didn’t pass
>he’s also mad that the $200 was removed
I’ll bet you’re also mad that people called their lawmakers to support this HPA/SHORT act aren’t you?

>>63933082
Post guns already

>/k/ in the year of our Lord two thousand and twenty-five

>>63932396
How do you pay a $0 tax?

>>63932999
You can just concede that you don’t know what you’re talking about lol. Point out the specific policies the communist is advocating for that equates to communism.

>>63933094
The communism he advocates

>>63933094
>Malding libshit

>>63933088
why? i dont care if you think im a shill. its not like you'd concede the argument if you saw i owned guns, that never happens, all you'd do is try to criticize what gun i posted.

"Post Guns" is a completely pointless challenge in off-topic politics threads. the only time it makes sense is when someone is voicing their complete ignorance about guns.

>>63932899
You're looking at what happens when you use AI to write your automation scripting instead of learning how to properly do it yourself

>>63933084
Exactly
>>63933086
That is 100% true but besides the point.
Go ahead, paint me a picture of the "felony" AR usage scenario. There will be a lot of assumptions required (like pretending anyone cares your barrel is 15.9" long) but I can work with that.

>>63933078
>sanctioning an entire country's exports isn't a gun ban
correct retard
>>63933077
My goal is to bitch that we lost the SHORT and HPA because Trump's administration is spineless. I would be slobbering on his dick right now if he had done anything to give gun owners a win.
>>63933075
>the guy that supports gun registration wants me to post pictures of my guns online
really makes you think
>>63933083
Obama obviously would've outright removed the 2A if he could, but he couldn't and accomplished nothing. Trump campaigned on a pro-2A stance and then pushed through the only anti-2A policy that actually took effect in over 25 years. Continuing to ignore this simple fact makes you look like a clown.

>>63933100
No guns

>>63933050
I know that, tranny. I suspect there is one or more retards in here literally pretending to argue with himself just to shit up the thread, specifically the one fag calling everyone Nick Fuentes and the posts he's replying to are the same guy or same 2 guys replying to themselves

>>63933095
>>63933096
No you can’t point to Shakira law either

>>63933091
That's what the lawsuit filed 90 seconds after the bill passes is going to be about.

>>63933106
This is the lowest IQ and highest average age board on the website. I don't know why you're acting surprised.

I like how long this shitty narrative that Obama was more 2A than Trump has stuck around, when the former literally tried to get a permanent federal AWB in place and said its failure was one of his "greatest regrets".

>>63933099
>paint me a picture of the "felony" AR usage scenario.

>Cop at the range
>Nosy gun range employees
>Pulled over by cop with unregistered SBR/Auto
>Self-defense shooting using unregisted SBR/Auto (inb4 'ill just swap out the upper!!!!')
>Noise complaint by neighbors and cops show up to see you shooting trash with your unregistered SBR/Auto

your next post will be dismissing all of these scenarios because they hurt your feelings.

>>63933107
The pilpul doesn't work here, rabbi.

>>63933100
>goal is to bitch that we lost the SHORT and HPA because Trump's administration is spineless
I am aware that your goal is to shill.

>would be slobbering on his dick right now if he had done anything to give gun owners a win.
We have - by definition - received a win.

>but he couldn't and accomplished nothing. Trump campaigned on a pro-2A stance and then pushed through the only anti-2A policy that actually took effect in over 25 years.
Bump stocks were banned via administrative rule change. Maybe you should go look at the administrative rule changes Obama made.
>You won't, cuz you're a shill

Still no gunz posted btw.

>Shills get so buckbroken by being called Groypers they putter out and start crying

>>63933113
But he went skeetshooting once

>GOA BTFO
>lolberts BTFO
>guntubers BTFO
>cuck staters BTFO
>'call your representatives' fags BTFO
Chudbros won yet again. We're in no better position now than we were a month ago. It just goes to show you that politicians will do whatever they want, and they don't give a fuck about the concerns of us little people. You'll take your $200 coupon and like it, peasant. Republicans control all three branches of government, but refuse to protect our 2nd Amendment rights and overrule an unelected parliamentarian woman who's a blatant opposition party stooge. I'm sure this is exactly what George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had in mind.

>>63933122
This is their last big push to detail BBB. Best thing is we get to do another reconciliation before the midterms.

>>63933122
>>63933111
>>63933106
Now he replies to himself saying some more retarded shit from the opposing POV because the writing style is the same every time

>>63933116
I don’t like the Jews either pal, no need for projection

>>63933042
I'm too old to keep up with the layers of irony

>>63933128
Oh no I'm so demoralized

>>63933113
I like how long you're going to pretend to be an illiterate retard and then be too much of a coward to (You) me
>Obama obviously would've outright removed the 2A if he could, but he couldn't and accomplished nothing. Trump campaigned on a pro-2A stance and then pushed through the only anti-2A policy that actually took effect in over 25 years. Continuing to ignore this simple fact makes you look like a clown.
>>63933118
The coupon isn't a win. Nobody wanted the coupon. It's a net loss. You haven't posted any guns either retard. This entire thread is gunless. Why don't you mention A SINGLE administrative rule change that Obama enacted which tangibly impacted 2A so that you can shut me up? I'm willing to accept when I'm wrong but saying "google it! google it!" when I have already done so isn't a winning strategy.
>>63933132
meds

>>63933132
>JANNIES HELP ME THEY CALLED MY GROYPER

Anyone read the language of the bill carefully enough to know/understand how long it will take before it goes into effect?

>>63933140
I wanted the "coupon"

>>63933144
You're not welcome here you gungrabbing namefag retard piece of shit

>>63933144
90 days from signing

>>63933097
>”Post Guns” is a completely pointless challenge in off-topic politics threads
There it is, a noguns. Not only that, you’re not even from /k/. Not even worth discussing this with you, you have no skin in the game.
>>>/out/

>>63932842
bejitabro btw

>>63933140
>he coupon isn't a win. Nobody wanted the coupon. It's a net loss.
Reducing the cost of a tax stamp to $0 is a loss? Providing grounds for challenging it's legality ""it's a tax""" is a loss?

Things are WORSE now?

Shill.

>Why don't you mention A SINGLE administrative rule change that Obama enacted
Because you haven't posted guns. You post guns you get serious answers. You don't, you will be treated like that filthy Jeet that you are.

>>63933140
>the coupon isn't a win
it objectively is and I'm not shooting up federal buildings for your unemployed, gunless homo ass

>>63933153
post serial numbers along with your DOB and Social Security number or the picture is fake

>>63933153
but you will continue to reply to my posts so what did i even lose here? the answer is nothing. my words still show up when i click 'post' so failing to post guns has done absolutely NOTHING.

>>63933115
>cops at the range
cops are not federal employees and have 0 obligation or authority to investigate NFA violations.
>nosy gun range employees
Also not federal employees, see above.
>pulled over by cop
See 1st point, but open/conceal carry is legal in many places as well as peaceable journey laws exist, so it's not relevant to a cop (unless you were already breaking some other more substantial law).
>self defense
remove the stock. It takes literally 5 seconds
>noise complaint
IDK why you have faggot neighbors but again, see the 1st point.

Cope & seethe retard

>>63933131
>>63933132

>>63933162
Nope. He has guns, you don't. He wins.

>>63933162
>Im getting mocked guys Im winning
What a sad state.

>>63933166
He has a picture of guns. No way someone that loves registration this much actually owns guns.

>>63933171
Lol noguns mad

>>63932289
>>63932282 (OP)
>>63932312
>>63932938
Oh you woke up what's up loser. So tell me again what stopped them from doing it before for the past 100 years? Legally.

>>63933163
your entire argument relies on cops NOT trying to bag a felony charge despite the fact SBR laws were basically made to fuck over gangsters who get caught speeding while having an uzi in the trunk.

Retardicans: throw some bullshit low impact gunslop in this horrible bill so the low information low IQ single issue voters clap like seals
>It worked, as you can see

>>63932556
You're a loser third-wrolder without rights and always will be.

>>63933177
You should have called

guys, look at all my guns

>>63933166
I have a cat too

>>63933163
>0 obligation
in most states this is accurate but they do it anyway
>authority
This is true only in states that explicitly passed legislation banning enforcement. Local/county/state PD 100% have the authority to enforce federal law. You typed so much and yet the entire foundation of your post is complete bullshit.

>>63932816
>>63932802
>>63932855
>actually replied twice to yourself

>>63933174
you tried

>>63933140
Anon this isn't difficult.

>>63933182
Stay mad

>>63933182
you own zero guns and are from the third world

>>63933190
Hey I can edit HTML too

>>63933191
Where is gook wife anon and what have you done to his slanted pussy???

>>63933192
Based classic Late-00s/Early-10s WASR setup.

why do /pol/ posters behave like such subhumans?