Thread 63936836

Taiwan's aircraft shelters are fully open. Aren't they afraid of Chinese FPV drones paying them a visit "Spiderweb-style" during Chinese D-Day?

fuck off chinkshill

>>63936844
The chinks have been deploying their fleet all around Taiwan and nobody cares. So who's going to care when their D-Day happens?

>>63936864
If you think you can pull off an amphibious invasion of an intensely fortified mountainous island with a fleet of less than 30 ships, I dare you to try. Please try. It would be great. It would make the russian invasion of Ukraine look like a great plan and execution, by comparison

>>63936836 (OP)
FPV drones dont have the range to reach Taiwan.

>>63936903
>FPV drones dont have the range to reach Kareli-ACK

>>63936864
Who gives a fuck about Taiwan anyway, half their workforce is from mainland China. Just bomb the factories flat when the chinks invade and they keep the rubble and ashes, fuck'em.

>>63936903
>FPV drones dont have the range to reach Belaya...

>>63936903
They'll be smuggled in Taiwan, like Ukraine did in Russia

>>63936864
You need boots on the ground for D-day and a handful of amphibious assault ships isn't nearly enough to carry them all. Shit will only get real when China starts massing hundreds of transport ships in ports near the Taiwan strait along with tens of thousands of troops and moving blood plasma

>>63936903
Anon, have you not see the FPVs launched from UGVs

>>63936836 (OP)
Nobody in the world takes air base security seriously.

>>63937303
Why?

>>63936836 (OP)
The closest point between mainland China and Taiwan is roughly 130 km, the longest range FPV drones have a range over 50 kilometers.

>>63936836 (OP)
don't care but I really really hope that someone will but 4k webcams all around the island

>>63937413
>The closest point between Ukraine and Russian Belaya Air base ,where their strategic bombers are stationed, is roughly 4500 km, the longest range FPV drones have a range over 50 kilometers.

>>63937563
Are chinks this retarded? The truck that smuggled them in was less than 20km from the base.
The drones themselves had shit for range.

>>63937563
The average IQ on /k/ is around 75, please understand.

>>63937797
>>63937809
What's preventing Chinese agents from setting up a similar strike within Taiwan?

>>63937330
It's unsexy. Same reason this board has plane threads but not hardened shelter threads.

>>63937865
they don't need to, CCCP has moles in all levels of the RoC officer corps. Planes will just not take off

>>63938272
This

>>63936864
>w-who's going to care
you know, for a country so sure they're going to win with no effort, you sure do take a LOT of effort to shill on western internet and tell people to please pretty please give up and don't do anything please.

Wow what went wrong in west taiwan.

>>63936836 (OP)
No, they probably didnt think about FPV drones when they built these shelters in the 1970's you absolute retard.

>>63938543
They should be because the chinks are no longer stuck in the 70s

>>63936864
How many ships were involved with D Day?

>>63937865
>>63937809
Did you just ask what's to stop China from driving a truck to Taiwan

>>63938791
The chinks have finally reached the 1880s then? Impressive.

>>63937291
Show me a UGV that can drive 100 miles over water.

>>63938810
1880s? Mortars without a base stand are like 17th Century.
There's still no confirmation that the three-engined beast is real, the video above could be a scale testbed.

>>63938810
F-47 and FA-XX status?

>>63938830
>status?
real, and the first and only 6th gen so far
mindbroke chinkshill so hard he's been seething and spamming his metodichka with tears streaming down his face, every day, for months, without missing a beat.
like, chinkshill, do you not go on holiday or something? are you just too poor to visit another country or too retarded to plan it?

>>63936935
Always wondered about this. If the island looks like it will lost why would we not just bomb the chip factories to hell and then afterwards lie right to the chinks' face and say we did it to help them by eliminating native resistance.

>>63938840
The Chinese don't have any historical events worthy of holiday status.

>>63938810
implessive
>CHYNA
>NUMBA
>WAN

>>63936836 (OP)
Can I go touch the planes? I promise to clean up after I'm done

You know west taiwan failed at invading Viet Nam twice right.

>>63940016
It's foolish to assume that the PLA of today is the PLA that invaded Vietnam.

>>63938272
>>63938410
Only actually intelligent posts in this thread. There will be no invasion of Taiwan, because the DPP will eventually lose power, and Taiwan will return to its relatively peaceful co-existence with the PRC.

>>63940385
you're right, the PLA of today runs away from african rapists with guns.

>>63940406
That's like saying Delta Force gets murked by Somalis on drugs, there's no reason to be intellectually dishonest.

>>63940401
and that, of course, is why we have to saturate the internet with military propaganda contending how we would totally take taiwan even if the US interfered.
seriously, pick one.
either
>we will win because taiwan is too weak and the US will do nothing
>we will win because we can take taiwan and the US will be defeated
or
>we won't even have to fight they'll just become mainlanders of their own accord.
pick.
one.
narrative.

>>63938272
>>63940401
This.
Westerners could never understand the bond between mainlanders and Taiwanese. They would sooner throw down their arms than fire on a brother. Taipei in 3 days, etc, etc

>>63940420
>and that, of course, is why we have to saturate the internet with military propaganda contending how we would totally take taiwan even if the US interfered.
Yes, while the DPP is in power, the PRC takes a chauvinistic approach to them playing chicken with independence, and more openly flirting with the USA, this happens to coincide with Trump being elected, and the US becoming more hawkish on China. If you'd done any research into this topic you'd know that prior to 2016, the PRC, and RoC had somewhat decent relations. When the DPP lose power, cross strait relations will return to a more cordial form.
>>63940509
Ukraine, and Taiwan are nothing alike.

>>63940613
correct, ukraine has a massive land border with russia, flat, open terrain with less places to build good, hardened structures, and they can't just defeat an invasion at the outset by just sinking all the boats with the people on them, before they get anywhere near shore.
they also have don't have a massive technological base that can be mobilised in a war scenario.

I'm confused why arguing that Taiwan should put doors on their aircraft shelters is a pro-CCP statement. They should put doors on their shelters. It's just a good idea. Even just eighth inch steel on dolly wheels will keep out most light loitering munitions. It's a minimal cost to protect against a threat that can be smuggled by hand.

>>63940634
Okay, but we're talking about diplomacy, Ukrainians, and Taiwanese are not the same, and don't have the same sentiment towards their neighbour. Ukraine was never going to swing back towards Russias sphere of influence, which was unacceptable for Putin and United Russia, China on the other hand is fine with the status quo with Taiwan, as long as the KMT or TPP are in power. Cross strait relations have improved somewhat since the DPP lost their majority, which is a clear signal that if Taiwan kicks out the DPP in 2028, the PRC will be happy to return to the pre-2016 consensus. This is all something you'd know if you actually knew anything about Chinese, and Taiwanese politics.

On top of this, the Ukrainian military had went through 8 years of rearming itself, had a motivated population, a strong industrial base, and a shitload of surplus soviet equipment to work with. the RoC military has only degraded in recent years.

>>63940690
>and don't have the same sentiment towards their neighbour
correct, even after 2014, ukrainians attempted to remain cordial towards russians and cross-borders relationships continued, even zelensky was the pro-russian pick compared to more ukranian nationalist choices, aiming for peace and good unilateral relations.
ukraine might very well have swung back towards the russian sphere of influence if russians had an ounce of respect, human decency and basic analytical/diplomatic skill.
it remains to be seen whether or not xi will be able to resist the temptation of doing something extraordinarily stupid like that, as he is not like his predecessors. though i agree that they have significantly better chances at a peaceful status quo than russia does.

>>63940690
Zelensky was a pro-russian candidate that was trying to normalize relations before the invasion.

>>63940705
>correct, even after 2014, ukrainians attempted to remain cordial towards russians and cross-borders relationships continued, even zelensky was the pro-russian pick compared to more ukranian nationalist choices, aiming for peace and good unilateral relations.
The difference here is the well was already poisoned, Ukraine had ultranationalist factions, Russia had already invaded Ukraine by that point.
>ukraine might very well have swung back towards the russian sphere of influence if russians had an ounce of respect, human decency and basic analytical/diplomatic skill.
I doubt it, even with SoTP being elected, the Ukrainian military was full of heavily anti-Russian factions.
>>63940705
China has a large carrot, and a large stick to play with Taiwan, Xi knows that they can outlast the DPP, and the other parties in Taiwan would very much like preferential trade.
>>63940740
I know, but Ukraine had already been invaded by this point, see what I replied to the other anon.

>>63936836 (OP)
>Aren't they afraid of Chinese FPV drones paying them a visit
I imagine they were built long before this was a possibility.

>>63936903

It's going to be a 10,000-20,000 strong barrage of soviet era planes they've kept in storage turned into large kamikaze drones. Either they hit their targets or run the Taiwan anti air out of interceptors. Then a barrage of actual missiles but cheap ones and some decoys. The actual air assault with manned planes happens in this stage. Then after that a final assault of the higher tech missiles after defenses have been depleted to destroy the targets not taken out in the previous attack, hidden within a secondary barrage of lower tech missiles mainly to soak up interceptors remaining away from the actual precision attack but also to hit targets if not taken out mid-air.

Nobody is attacking Taiwan militarily. The PLA is a non-combat organization. What will happen is that the United Front (5th column army) will stager a political coup and then the gobvernment will formally request mainland security support. Chinese security forces will land normally via a sea port the CCP currently owns (indirectly). The US will not lift a finger and whatever loyal Taiwanese military is still in control is hopelessly ill-prepared to deal with the crisis.

>>63940778
>and other fanfiction you can tell yourself

>>63936836 (OP)
they are afraid that's why they built superhard HAS for their good planes