Alright boys, what are we buying now that NFA items have a $0 tax. I'm thinking about getting a B&T SPC-9 SD. What are you getting?
>B-b-but you're not allowed to be happy for this massive push forward in gun rights
>YOURE SUPPOSED to call your Congressman and beg them to take away our gun rights to MAYBE get something else back from the bill
>WHY ARENT YOU KEKING?????
Stfu and consoom NFA items.

>>63937740 (OP)
I can't tell whether you're serious or not. Obviously any step forward in gun rights is a good thing but was anyone really put off by the $200 rather than the registry?

>>63937740 (OP)
>spending money
>on yourself
Fucking selfish OP you could be giving that money to israel/palestine/ukraine

>>63937763
I've showed all my family and friends how easy it is to do NFA items with Capitol Armory and all of them told me the government already has their information from buying guns at stores and that the $200 is what's stopping them. So literally yes that is the exact reason for lots of people.

>>63937763
Honestly yeah, that and the wait time were the worst parts of getting my suppressors and SBRs and now that both are gone I'm probably going to do some projects that just weren't that important enough to me to put up with aforementioned hurdles. Double-stamping my XM177 clone with a proper 11.5" barrel and real moderator sounds much more appealing when I know it'll all be done in a week and be $400 less than it would have been.

$0 stamps don't start until Jan 1 2026. Good time to save some spare beer money.

I've got like 10 guns I need to sbr. Only NFA item I currently have is a Sparrow suppressor.

>>63937828
>don't start until Jan 1 2026
Same with medicaid being taken from homeless /k/lansmen, so anyone complaining about that too has half a year to get a job sonny.

>>63937740 (OP)
>tracking your shit is now free
>congrats goyim on your massive push forward in gun rights!
lmoa

>>63937834
dumb bot script fucked up the most basic internet acronym

The cost was never the barrier to entry.
Congres fucked up as usual.

>>63937740 (OP)
Nothing
SBR and suppressors are banned in IL ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>63937823
>all of them told me the government already has their information from buying guns at stores
There are some major differences in the way that information is recorded compared to the NFA details.
If the $200 is genuinely what's been putting them off then I'm glad that barrier has been removed for them.

I'm still huffing the hopium that we can use this as a stepping stone toward total abolition of the act.

>>63937812
Good for them but everyone I know is in the opposite bracket. Money isn't an issue, but we move too much to care for all the paperwork.

>>63937740 (OP)
Thinking of getting a 9mm can for my PSA carbine and a 22lr can for my Savage bolt action. Already have a OCL Polonium and like it a lot, I assume the rest of OCL's catalog is gtg? If not, what's a good 9mm and 22 silencer?

>>63938113
> total abolition of the act.
Never ever ever going to happen.
There’s a possible future where suppressors, SBRs, SBSs and AOWs are taken off. But no judge is ever going to sign off on legal machine guns and explosives.

>>63938121
> we move too much to care for all the paperwork.
A 5320 is literally one page and all you need to do...

>>63938127
of all the things noNFAlets don't understand it's the transport aspect that seems by far and away the most commonly misunderstood aspect (form 5320s being so simple and also being good for an entire year if you're just traveling)

>>63938127
Yeah, every time, with a stack of huge legal penalties and worry about who to sell it to, who can hold it, where to store it, what if that doesn't work out etc.

This is nice for poorfags who live in the same county for 30 years and want to machine their own janky suppressors but for me it's like this: the government was charging $200 for you to drive across the state and jump through an amusement park of hoops to suck their dick on camera. Now they're not charging the $200.

>>63937832
Yeah I think the main thing I'll do a lot more of is SBR. I know some braces are practically stocks (pic related, a "brace") but now with no fee, doing some paperwork is fine. Also, integrally suppressed stuff will probably be produced much more frequently now. Imagine paying like $800 for an integrally suppressed PCC. I want that suppressed keltec sub2000, lol

>>63938145
>Yeah, every time,
You have to fill out a 4473 for a gun purchase every time, and that's basically 90% of the 5320. Does that stop you from buying guns?
>with a stack of huge legal penalties
Which you avoid by...filling out the form.
>and worry about who to sell it to
Now you're just tacking things on, this was about moving.
> who can hold it, where to store it
You can store it where you would any other gun and there is literally nothing prohibiting people other than yourself from holding an NFA item. You're parroting fuddisms.
>what if that doesn't work out etc.
What if the world was hit by a meteor?

>>63938145
>the government was charging $200 for you to drive across the state
You don't have to do shit if you're staying within the state dude....

>>63938145
> an amusement park of hoops
>a form that has complete guides on youtube that are under 5 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdGp0CGiL9E&t=52s

>>63938174
NTA but that's exactly the reason I didn't buy any NFA items when they unfucked e-file, I was planning to move across state lines. Now that I have and stamps are going to be free in a few months I can wait until the new year to buy anything. And if all the cans are sold out for a few months, I'll just wait a while longer. I'm not dying for want of one or an SBR.

I really enjoy my Rugged Obsidian 9 and Omega 9k but I'm always underwhelmed by 5.56 cans but I feel like there's pressure from everywhere to own one. I dunno, I still have to wear earpro to shoot with one and I get a bunch of gas to the face. I think something like an integrally suppressed 10/22 would be more fun or something stupid like the B&T Station Six-9

>>63938145
if you don't want to do NFA just say you're uncomfortable with the principle of registration, copping out on the fucking travel form is retarded and makes you look like a moron.

>>63938200
My brother in Christ can you not charge out a stock charging handle for a gas buster?

>>63938145
>worry about . . . who can hold it, where to store it
Wwwwwhy are you worrying about these things exactly?

>>63938210
how about you actually go out and shoot nigger? those work for a single magazine if you're lucky and then gas starts spraying out the back or at least the Geissele and PRI ones do that

>>63938217
a while ago the GayTF put up some bullshit on their website saying only the registered owner of an NFA item could "take possession" of it, then tok it down after a few days of being shrieked at but that was plenty of time for every RSO and LGS boomer to tell everyone they saw that touching an SBR or suppressor that wasn't yours would make federal agents kick down your door and kill you and your entire family in bed
>>63938232
NTA but why the flying fuck would a raised shelf on a CH stop working after a magazine? explain the physics of this asshole because that absolutely does not happen.

>>63938232
Buddy I own a suppressed AR15 with a gas buster and what you are describing is not reality.

>>63938241
gas takes the path of least resistance and when everything else starts getting filled with crap up it'll start coming out from around the charging handle anyways

>>63938251
you're just making shit up now.

>>63937740 (OP)
well we didn't get federal preemption like I needed so I can't really do anything and am going to have to wait till those lawsuits eventually win in court.
If I was included in this win I'd uh. Well I'd probably only buy some suppressors, SBRs don't really interest me that much, maybe a MP5 clone.
In protest of their BS I would however continuously be filing form 1s on potatoes and then eating them later. Maybe throw some 3d printed suppressors in there too for fun that I'd use a candle just to make some clerk's life hell at the ATF

>>63938232
Lmao that doesn't even happen with my basicbitch VLTOR CH.

>>63937823
The wait times are gone now?

>>63938210
>>63938241
>>63938244
Different Anon, but I've always noticed 10.3"s are the hardest to un-gas.
Even with a gas buster like the PRI I always still had the issue still, plus I like the regular USGI charging handle best instead of extended latches.
My solution was/is to use silicon plumbing caulk to fill the gap and reapply when it peels off, eliminated any gas to the nose/eyes.

>>63938286
When I sent in my Form 1 for my Krink it came back signed and stamped within 24 hours. I'm not exaggerating.

>>63937905
The cost was the justification for the whole thing however. for 100 years they've said it's fine to violate the 2nd amendment because it's also a tax, but its not a tax anymore.
I'm excited to see how the courts justify it now.

>>63938286
pretty much, i sbr'd my ps90 back in december and it was approved in about a week

>>63938258
Instead of potatoes do something useful like silent piston ammo anon.

The cost going away is nice, but the major issue still is that sending in a can for warranty work or repair is still a fucking pain in the ass. I mean poorchads can make their own oil filter suppressors for free which is cool but overall the cost was never the main issue.

>>63937763
I put off registering a couple of SBRs because I didn't want to drop $400 at once. Unfortunately for me I already did it months ago and can't get my $400 back, but if I knew this was coming I definitely would have just waited a little longer.

>>63937763
>but was anyone really put off by the $200 rather than the registry?
I'm confused why you have a hard time believing this, especially when you factor in people doing double-stamp setups, which are becoming increasingly common.

>>63938339
>but the major issue still is that sending in a can for warranty work or repair is still a fucking pain in the ass.
The only people saying this are nocans looking for an endless list of gripes to whine about.
I sent in a SF RC to be recored and it was back to me within 2 weeks. Slightly more hassle than sending a gun in for warranty work, i.e. not a big deal at all.

>>63937740 (OP)
So does this mean making an oil filter suppressor is fine as long as I register it for $0? Same with making short pipe shotguns, I just need to register them?

>>63937740 (OP)
are suppressors going to come down in price or go up?

>>63938145
this straight up sounds like you're just making excuses and I've never understood why so many posters do this when the NFA process has been getting gradually more and more accessible. like, the big procedural issues are gone now (waits and fees) so y'all just latched onto the really simple shit, and in this case it's not even the more onerous of those (fingerprints), but the most simple federal form I've ever seen in my life.

>>63938375
Immediately go up, but the market will obviously adjust and we'll get cheaper, less durable aluminum and steel cans to lower the floor to entry

>>63938375
Theoretically they should come down in price because the removal of the tax means companies can make cheap as shit $100 and less suppressors and customers wouldn't be put off by having to pay an extra $200 anymore.

>>63938374
Wait, now that it's zero dollars, should register a mango with the ATF?

>>63937763
I'm going to buy at least two suppressors now for my 10/22 and 22/45. Currently the 10/22 has a .223 suppressor intended for one of my ARs on it, and the thing putting me off buying some dedicated .22 ones was the fact that the taxes would make up almost half the cost, so instead of $500-600 it would be $900-1000. I have a mortgage and a million other things to spend money on besides toys, so the price difference matters to me.

>>63937834
this lol
It is disgusting how many people actually support this, especially here. One can only hope they're bots
Even on Reddit they will promote noncompliance, and that's not even a (pseudo) anonymous website, while here it's just cuckery at every step, even though it should be the other way around

>>63938374
what do i register? the adapter or the filter?
what happens when the filter wears out? do i have to register a new filter or is it only the adapter that's considered the item?

>>63938457
This has already been done, you register the adapter and can buy as many filters as you want

>>63938445
post gun

>/pol/cels coping and seething in yet another thread

>>63938481
Hes terrified of the government and wont even post a gun anonymously because he thinks the government will arrest him, or maybe he's just a felon/foreigner. He's been posting every day for hours in every thread about this praising reddit and crashing out over everyone on /k/.

>>63938568
>Hes terrified of the government and wont even post a gun anonymously
Yet he posts here, of all places? I don't understand why he'd do that.

>>63938575
Because hes miserable and wants you/me to be miserable

>>63938575
doomers/accelerationists, as a rule, are neither intelligent or mentally well.

>>63938568
I'm halfway convinced it's a bot.

>>63938481
>>63938568
>post gun
Not
An
Argument
I've already posted guns, and it didn't change your failed argument at all. You'll just ask for a timestamp, you'll just ask for a serial number, you'll just ask to make sure the picture includes a mugshot and my address. It doesn't matter and I won't post my gun because you will always move the goalposts.
You are actively causing harm to the cause of Liberty by continuing to avoid the uncomfortable truth about this matter. You are worse than traitors. You are serpents. You don't deserve gun rights.

>>63938604
You are a nigger and need to be put down by one. God willing, you will be, soon.

>>63938615
>you don't own guns
>you're brown
>you're a foreigner
>you're a jew
What other ad-hominem arguments do I need to add to the list?

>>63938604
Au contraire it's the most solid argument there is, what place do you have to argue about gun rights if you're not a gun owner? It'd be like arguing about traffic laws despite not having a car or even a DL. If you haven't a dog in this race then why should I care about your input?

>>63938630
>why won't you upload photographs of your personal firearms which you bought in private sales to this government-aligned datamine honeypot?

>>63938623
You're retarded
You're gay
Your father clearly didn't beat you enough
Your mother should've fallen down more stairs
Your bloodline is weak
You smell funny
You like beans in your chili
Your nails aren't properly trimmed
Your lips are dry
You're manually breathing
You pee sitting down
Honestly I have all day, I'll take any opportunity to come up with insults

>>63938604
>You are actively causing harm to the cause of Liberty
By getting the second amendment equivalent of a poll tax rolled back?

>>63938623
I'm not attacking a man, I'm attacking a subhuman miscreant.

>>63938635
if you care about your security and privacy and know this is a "government-aligned datamine honeypot" then why the fuck are you here to begin with?

>>63938642
... and creating precedent for future raising of the tax?
If the tax had been eliminated, I would agree. The tax was not eliminated, but lowered to 0$. This is an important legal distinction.
>>63938643
Ad hominem argument ignored
>>63938650
Because I'm not posting photographs of my privately owned firearms like many people here?

>>63938635
Convenient, also hope you made that deal entirely in person and never texted the seller or emailed them. Also hope you didn't go make the deal with your phone on you. Also hope you've never bought ammo or any firearms paraphernalia with a card or online

>>63938662
you think that's the only way you risk your security and privacy by posting here? are you sure you're smart enough to play this role, because it doesn't seem like you are.

>>63937763
yes, genuinely thats the reason the majority of people havent went out to get a suppressor or SBR/SBS, aswell as the wait times which are now massively reduced
you do paperwork to buy a gun, its not too big of a deal to paperwork for NFA when its free
now if only they'd make destructive devices free to register (aside from legalizing post 1984 machine guns)
i can pay the $200 fee to build a 40mm m79 but i want to stockpile a bunch of grenade ammo without having to pay out my ass to register each individual explosive

>>63938662
> ... and creating precedent for future raising of the tax?
You mean the thing they could have always done?

>>63937834
you're already being tracked

>>63938650
There are no shortage of midwits who think they're all in on managing their privacy just because they use NordVPN or some shit. This anon doesn't have the brains to actually get into the real shit, and he showed that just by virtue of posting here.

>>63938126
my local judge did and he's famous for it, but he's only a city judge sadly

>>63938258
>In protest of their BS I would however continuously be filing form 1s on potatoes and then eating them later.
based

>>63938623
>In /arg/
>Not posting or actually discussing rifle

Add you're brown x2

>>63938445
i promote noncompliance, but i also promote this law
if someone uses an unregistered gun or suppressor in home defense they're gonna get fucked by the law and thats the main thing i worry about

>>63938145
>the government was charging $200 for you to drive across the state and jump through an amusement park of hoops to suck their dick on camera.
Look here, nigger, I'm European and just be happy they're no longer charging you
>tfw ANY loicence will be on the order of $200 starting Jan 1

>>63938701
this isnt arg

>>63938662
>and creating precedent for future raising of the tax?
If you mentioned the NFA to most Democrats they'd probably think it was part of the LGBTQWERTYUIPV6++. And it's not like they've ever laid off pushing for gun restrictions out of a sense of fairness or respect for precedent anyway. They passed mag bans and waiting periods in Vermont and Maine, places with very low crime that had no real history of gun control. They have a fundamental issue with peasants owning guns and they won't let it go, even if it's not popular, so we need to take every win we can and keep pushing.

>>63938381
>this straight up sounds like you're just making excuses and I've never understood why so many posters do this when the NFA process has been getting gradually more and more accessible
Honestly they're intimidated by the process as a whole even in its reduced state or just lazy. That's exactly how it is for my brother, he *wants* an SBR but the very existence of the form and the fingerprinting process, and learning about it, is enough to make him not want to bother.

>>63938662
>thinks Dems have ever given a shit for precedence when it comes to making life hell for gun owners
Do you actually expect us to believe you belong here, or own guns?

>>63937763
do you think $200, at minimum, is chump change?

>>63938666
checked satan. also you are correct.
>>63938688
and that they will do, yes.
>>63938729
>belong here
No, it's obvious this board is full of cucks (likely and hopefully GPT bots).
Luckily in real life I don't have to deal with the serpents and bootlickers that infest this website, ironically moreso than even Reddit.

>>63938750
You seem to know a lot about reddit, care to explain?

What's the best cheapo .22 suppressor to get? Silencerco Sparrow?

>>63937740 (OP)
I just want to buy a P90 without having to engrave my address on it (wtf). I would pay $400 not to do that.

>>63937740 (OP)
Freemen don't ask

>>63938825
>Buy PS90
>Buy P90 barrel
>Swap out barrel
Yeah
>But muh laws!
They never stopped our founding fathers, following in their footsteps is the most patriotic thing you can do

>>63937763
I'm put off by the paperwork and red tape more than anything. Registration is bullshit but in my case at this point is whatever, I have a C&R license, the government already has my shit. $200 extra is annoying, I can spend it, but that's also on top of the already several hundred dollar suppressor that should be cheaper, but isn't because of the red tape with buying the things. The paperwork and laws surrounding it all is just annoying bullshit I don't want to have to deal with. I can buy everything I need to build a Garand off of Ebay short of the receiver, but I can't get a threaded metal tube with some baffles shipped to my house without filling out retarded forms.

>>63938744
Yes.

>>63937740 (OP)
They couldn't rewrite the text to include removal of registry?

>>63937832
Still gonna have to get your lowers engraved

>>63937765
Yeah Drumph bad amirite this is blue /pol/ who the fuck actually has guns?

>>63939153
the parliamentarian refused to allow it and they didn't have the votes to fire her
>vance or the majority leader could have done it unilaterally
yeah but then someone like merkowski or collins would have been a faggot about the whole thing. once the tax becomes zero a bunch of lawsuits are going to get launched arguing the government doesn't have the authority to require registration of there is no tax component

>>63939153
Couldn't? More like wouldn't.

This is what they decided the absolute minimum viable thing they could leave in to keep morons falling for the idea that he's /ourguy/

https://www.gunowners.org/goa-to-file-one-big-beautiful-lawsuit-against-nfa-registry-as-one-big-beautiful-bill-heads-to-presidents-desk/

>>63939259
Yeah I dunno how the gov gonna def this one, or charge anyone having them without registration at this point. t's a LITERAL illegal registry which should NOT exist.

>>63939265
He's? Who? Anyway we got the next best thing out of this whole shit so like, whatever.
>>63939269
there you go

What was the actual reason Parlament refused to include removal of registration? Tax is a tax right?

>>63939310
some retarded argument that the registry wasn't tax/budget related when the government derives the power for the registry via the power to tax

>>63937740 (OP)
So how does this all work? Is it all gone rn or do I have to wait a fucking year

>>63939224
Your point is? I also have AK's that need to be sent off and worked on because I'm a lazy fuck.

>>63939339
January 1st

How does Suppressor manufacture tax work? At what stage is it required? Can they start the production lines now?

>>63939376
God damnit

>>63939321
bro... just lol. Well fuck it we'll wait, we will get rid of the registry in due time.

>>63938405
>$0 tax
>wait times down to under a week, sometimes 2-3 days
You could get that damn mango registered before it goes bad!
>Bonus: Send the ATF a notice of removal of NFA device from the registry (destruction of NFA device) once it goes rotten

>>63938126
Getting the tax changed to zero was thought to be impossible a few years ago, keep pushing for gun rights and you never know what you might get.

What's to stop someone now submitting a million registration requests for a million times zero dollars, thus impossibly and hopelessly clogging up the registration process and making acquisition of new NFA items impossible?

>>63938871
>>63938839
Unironically this is the best sentiment. Don’t post your illegal shit online like a dummy, but also don’t be a chickenshit. Buy whatever you want, build whatever you want.
>>63938662
Unironically, you are not important enough to have the Feds take notice of some rando gun pics, brownoid.

>>63938358
I put two form 1’s off and then that amnesty came along, thank you, used the money to buy to a can.

>>63937740 (OP)
nothing, because I still have two fights and a decade to get through before SBRs and suppressors are even legal in my state

>>63939915
I dunno. What stops me from becoming a millionaire tomorrow?

>>63940058
We'll get to you too buddy don't worry.

>>63938145
>who to sell it to
Don't
>who can hold it
You
>where to store it
With your other guns.
Are you fucking retarded? If you have a concealed carry permit, the feds already know where you live, that you have guns, and have your fingerprints. The paperwork for an nfa item takes less than 10 minutes to fill out. Stop being a retarded faggot.

>>63937905
Paying a $200 tax on a .22 suppressor that’s $300 is retarded. More so with SBRs or SBSs when you aren’t changing anything.

More importantly, the tax has been part the justification for the NFA. It’s the first domino to getting rid of part of it.

>>63939915
what kind of retarded hypothetical is this?

>>63937763
This. None of this matters if there is a registry and especially if red flag laws are still on the books. If anything, this will simply increase the speed between the initial request and the raid, as well as the raid's brutality.

I'm just looking forward to making a cheap as fuck .22lr suppressor for pocket change.

>>63940527
democrat sabotage?

>>63938375
They're not going to change in either direction. The registry process is the bottleneck.

>>63940565
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>63937740 (OP)
>niggers who just want to CONSOOOOOOOOM more take a victory lap when the boot is still on their neck
WE DID IT REDDIT!

>>63940650
Don't pay any attention to the ramblings of a gunless accelerationist.

>>63940655
post a gun you own

can't wait

>>63940655
You're not making anyone shoot up a federal building, Moishe.

Obviously sponsored by the arms industry but whatever, audiologists btfo

>>63939410
Good luck getting one there will be 10 million people wanting one and 10 items in stock lol

>>63939915
This is what I want to know. If there's no limitations, I want to submit 10 form 1s, a short barrel and suppressor for each of my rifles. If everyone does this, wait times will be astronomical.

>>63940948
Lol I'm gonna pay the $200 now to cut the line and get my approvals now before all you poor slobs clog up the works.

Submissions have probably fallen off hard now that everyone is eaiinefor this to go into effect so I bet it's faster than ever. Rubes lmao.

https://www.gunowners.org/wp-content/uploads/GOA-One-Big-Beautiful-Lawsuit.pdf
CASE FILED

>>63937763
Yeah actually I was. 200 bucks for a cuck stamp on top of all the other bullshit was just really annoying and it always became a "bext paycheck" priority. Now I'm going to finslly order a can once this goes into effect.

>>63938126
And 12 years ago everyone like you thought ARs and mags over 10 rounds were gone forever post Sandy vag. 10 years ago saying over half the states having constitutional carry would have been laughed at. Personally I never thought NFA wait times would be under a week. Yet here we are.

Don’t quit and give up like a little bitch.

>>63941083
can they actually sue them before january first lol?

>>63937763
Setting aside whether anyone was put off by it, there is no longer a $200 dollar addition to the minimum price for a NFA item. This means that cheap Euro style suppressors that are disposable objects you slap onto guns that you don't shoot that often to warrant an expensive can are now economically viable in the US.

>>63938092
California as well. If the NFA disappears, will these states still have legal grounds on which to ban SBRs and cans? Or does it he NFA not matter?

where we're going, we wont need ear pros

>>63939376
>>63939410
>>63940795
Well at the very least, theoretically these companies can find some ways to speed up production or make models that may be temporarily made but help keep silencers in stock, right? Oh yeah everyone's too afraid after 2016/2017 that they might overproduce again, right. Back to just off schedule manufacturing I guess.

Oh fug that's right. So who's going to make some new Maxims? I'd grab one to put on my old 22s frankly if the price were right.

>>63941308
AB essentially copied the maxim internals

>>63937740 (OP)
You poorfag retard. They’re paying you $200 to fuck off. Why are poor people so stupid and poor?

>>63939310
Because the Senate rules state that only budget things can be in a budget bill. And one of the disqualifications is that the policy effects of a certain aspect outweigh the budgetary effects.

>>63938604
>You'll just ask for a timestamp, you'll just ask for a serial number, you'll just ask to make sure the picture includes a mugshot and my address. It doesn't matter and I won't post my gun because you will always move the goalposts.
Yep. “Post guns” has been stripped of its significance.

>>63939915
I know a guy who is filling out hundreds of form 1s for nonexistent items just so he can build them whenever he feels like it and not have to wait.

>>63938126
>> total abolition of the act.
>Never ever ever going to happen.
GOA has an interesting lawsuit seeking to have the NFA ruled unconstitutional. The reasoning is that the NFA is first and foremost a tax there is no constitutional basis for a pure registry.
https://www.gunowners.org/wp-content/uploads/GOA-One-Big-Beautiful-Lawsuit.pdf
worth reading the first couple of paragraphs.

>>63937740 (OP)
I'm not unhappy since a win is a win and there not actually being any tax associated with these NFA items makes their regulation a lot less Constitutionally defensible, but the waiting period and the cost of the stamp were never really the issue, the paperwork was.
Like, if NFA items transferred on a 4473 instead of a Form 4 and everything else were the same—pay $200, wait several days to a week or two—none of my shoulder guns would have barrels longer than 16" and everything would have a suppressor.

>>63941414
replying to yourself is sad. post guns.

>>63941414
You again?
>>>/out/

>>63938232
Nigger if it works on the first shot it’ll work on the hundredth shot. Explain how it “wears down” after a mag but someone works ok if you take breaks between firing.

>>63941233
they'll lose their excuse, but if their reactions to things like Bruen are any indication, they'll just come up with something that does the same thing but worse
looking at you CCIA

>>63941122
the changes are already on the books and it's not like the suit will be resolved by then

>>63937828
I thought its supposed to be 90 days after it was signed

Can someone explain to me how Form 1s are supposed to be handled now? There's no cost to file beyond the cost the stamp, right? What's to stop people from filing 1,000,000 Form 1s for suppressors they'll never actually make?

>>63938604
Be quiet for several days

>>63937740 (OP)
we got backstabbed and kiked and youre celebrating that instead of paying $200 for an unconstitutional penis inspection you now get it for free?

>>63941892
>we
Je ne sais pas tu parles francais. You know beheading the ATF was never on the table why are you so fucking pissy?

>>63941892
Stop crying libtard. GOA is currently arguing to get them removed from NFA

>>63942040
the same GOA that argued for them not to be removed in the first bill and pressured congress to leave them on the NFA registry but kike down the tax to $0 because the boomerfags who have NFA class 3 dealerships were getting pissy?

>>63937763
Yes, I have a bunch of parts kits builds that weren't worth registering at $200. This is going to save me like $1600

>>63940948
I imagine most of the time is spent running the background check, you're still a single entity filing a form. Like I guess if you submitted one a day it would add more requests but you'd probably get approved in batches.

>>63937740 (OP)
So, what, I can just buy a thumper and real rounds now?

>>63937763
The $200 got less and less off-putting as wait times decreased to less than a month. It's not as if $200 was expensive but before e-filing got faster it was a question of "is the $200 really worth it if I'm going to wait 3+ months?"

>>63937740 (OP)
>>63937763
even as a poorfag amongst poorfags the $200 was utterly irrelevant. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
I move too much to deal with the fucking registry.

It’s not $200
It’s $400
You pay $200 AND the manufacturer pays $200

>>63941429
The argument should be that since the NFA has been ruled a tax that's what makes it unconstitutional. If you can't tax people for exercising any other right, you can't tax them for exercising the 2nd. Poll taxes are unconstitutional, and enfranchisement is well defined. It doesn't take any unusual logic or strange interpretations of the constitution to come to the conclusion that if one right can't be taxed none of them can.

>>63941841
If it had changed status from a form 4 to a 4473, yes. Since it's just a tax reduction it goes into effect with all the other budgetary changes which is the start of 26. Bit strange to me because the federal FY runs Oct-Sep but that's how it's written, assuming I'm reading it correctly.

>>63942178
you don't, and the 4473 is a one page form. just be honest and say you're lazy and don't want to learn

>>63942616
5320*

>>63937765
>Fucking selfish OP you could be giving that money to israel/palestine/ukraine
I disrepect this ironic attitude. There are more homeless drug addicts in America to waste money on than ever.
>>63937740 (OP)
.300 caliber Ti suppressor. It's the Form 4 I hate waiting on.

>>63942178
>I move too much to deal with the fucking registry
Peripatetic indigents don't deserve rights or freedoms like normal good citizens.
>inb4 whaa?
Look it up homeless faggot.

>>63937763
I'm going to form 1 so I can do a few suppressors. I just want to learn how to make them. It seriously doesn't look that hard or expensive to make if have the proper tools. Even the tools aren't cost prohibitive now. I'm not going to waste $200 just to learn and have a crap thing the first ten or so tries. Now I'm going to be able to learn and will cost me only material.

>>63942674
be brown elsewhere. white people who travel for work arent hobos like in your country.

>>63939859
Malicious compliance. the perfect reason to start a movement to get millions of people to do this every day, break their shit completely.

>>63942178
>I move too much to deal with registry
Then just get an NFA trust and now you don't have to fill out a form whenever you move.

>>63938126
FRT... binary explosives and bp are fine...
Fuckin doomer.

>>63938317
>$0 is still a number and therefore a tax
>SCOTUS says $0 could be increased later and there is still $200 on DD and MG and upholds the NFA
>SCOTUS denies hearing the case
>SCOTUS uses some dumb technicality why the registration remains
>courts slow walk the case allowing democrats time to get back into power and raise the tax to some ungodly amount.
Not to mention all the blue states that will have defacto b&s on these items now because the full HPA and SHORT Acts were not passed

This timeline has the most risk associated for the same payout (worse for blue states) vs just passing the full HPA and SHORT Acts.

It's weird how none of the guntubers are reacting to this.

>>63942716
They were slow to call for support for HPA/SHORT acts. They're all paid shills

>>63938339
TAKE THE W

the amount of glownig perverts on here trying to shame citizens into giving up their fingerprints, pictures, serial numbers, and address is absolutely disgusting. anyone here pushing you to just do the registration isnt your fren and is glownig. these anons sold out their data and privacy and want you to join them so they dont feel like dumbasses.

btw does anyone know the timeline on how long this GOA lawsuit is gonna take to get to the supreme court?

>>63942695
Go pick your oranges and stfu.

>>63942749
You don't have to do all that. Nobody will know if you put a stock on your pistol without SBRing it.

>>63938641
Beans are objectively a nutritional benefit in SHTF, so based. Fuck you my chili is better than yours.

>>63938641
>I have all day
Go on...

>>63937763
oh fuck anon, the gubbamint has my name on a list
oh shit, oh fuck, what am i going to do? i think they've been tracking me since i was a newborn, and they're in cahoots with my parents, i remember them talking about certificates or something

>>63942753
There are satellites in orbit that can visually resolve your felony.

>>63942919
>and they're in cahoots with my parents
You are a known individual. You had better color inside the lines.

>>63942923
you'll never catch me

>>63942714
>just passing the full HPA and SHORT Acts.
Not possible as we didn't have the votes. Like, I legit have no idea why this very simple concept is so exceedingly difficult for anons to grasp.

>>63942749
Government knows what guns you have, has an idea of how often you shoot them and, unless you use public land, where you shoot them.

>>63942940
>very simple concept is so exceedingly difficult for anons to grasp.
What do you mean? They should have passed it and it would have, if they had more votes.

>>63937905
nigga we have palantir in the big 25, that ship sailed on september 11 2001

>>63937763
I just want the MG registry reopened, shooting an M16 on auto gets boring real fast

>>63942978
>that party then Uncle Ted, Marvin Heemeyer, Patrick Henry and Timothy McVeigh host a rave
Off da hook!

>>63942952
>Government knows what guns you have
There is a massive difference between 4473 data held in non-searchable image files and the info they get from the NFA registry.
>has an idea of how often you shoot them and, unless you use public land, where you shoot them.
No they fucking don't.

>>63943014
>No they fucking don't
Satellites man! It's like you don't understand!!!

>>63942940
We had the votes. Thune and Vance are cuckservatives who sold us out. They used the scapegoat parlimentarian to do what they didnt have the balls to do. It's a calculated bet on their part that we CANT get the SCOTUS to rule before the Dems get power and up the tax to some ungodly amount.

In the end if we win it is the same reward but with way more risk and a higher cost (litigation fees and time). The downsides are far higher because we could lose and they dont get re elected. Its like the Republicans are 50% retarded and 50% RINO.

>>63943150
so 100% retarded

>>63940025
Sweet gat, can we get a parts list?

>>63942919
Joke's on you I browse this anonymous website in incognito mode
Fedbois can't touch this

>>63938445
>implying the government doesn't already know you own guns
>implying I can't do both
Just because I have a 3D printer that can pop out serviceable .22 suppressors in a day doesn't mean I don't want a real, high quality one too. If anything it add plausible deniability. Just because I have a "brace" on a "pistol" doesn't mean I can't slap a stock on there when I go to the range.

Post guns you faggot. Bet you wont.

>>63938604
No it is, because it confirms you for a giant faggot. Or a foreigner which makes the first statement redundant.

>>63942923
Fedfats can rest easy, your average goycattle won't get off the couch for anything short of their niggerball broadcast being interrupted
>why should i care? not my state not my problem
>why should i care? not my city not my problem
>why should i care? not my district not my problem
>why should i care? not my street not my problem
>why should i care? not my house not my problem
>oh well my kids would've gotten raped by third world savages anyway

>>63938623
Does your husband know you're on the internet?

>>63938635
>why don't you understand anything about op sec but still post like you do
I suppose you only contacted them through a burner phone or burner email. And never bought any ammo or accessories with a credit card.

Well that 2nd part is true, because you don't own guns so why would you need to buy ammo. How fat are you?

>>63938662
>... and creating precedent for future raising of the tax?
You mean the same thing that could have happened anytime in the past 90 years? You do know there's an inflation adjustment nearly every year for most tax matters. Yet they haven't touched the $200 in almost a century.

I’m gonna saw off some old shotgun cause the $200 did not make it worth cutting down a $350 gun
>but now the tax can be raised to 6 gorillion dollars!!!
>$200 wasn’t even that bad!!!
>You SHOULD pay $200!!!!
Hahahahaha

>>63938825
>having to engrave my address on it (wtf).
You don't? You can buy a PS90, buy the shorter P90 barrel, submit a Form 1 (for free in 2026) and you're set. They already have the serial number and even the ATF says that's fine.

If you want to sell it, then you have to engrave it. I'm not planning to sell any of my stuff so it'll get inherited and engraving doesn't matter. If I do sell it, whatever gun shop I sell it to can handle that.

>>63939410
It sucks but look at it this way, 2 years ago the wait time for a suppressor was over a year. Now you can walk in a store, pay, no extra $200, and potentially leave the same day. At worst within the week.

For SBRs and stuff, you already have AR lowers, stocks, and sub 16" uppers. We all do. On Jan 1 just file the eforms and have fun.

>>63940650
He's a gunless faggot. Ignore him

>>63941892
>we got backstabbed and kiked
By renewing 2018 tax reform that drastically cut taxes across the board? And by getting a gun rights win? Interesting definition of backstabbed you have.

Post guns and hand.

>>63943014
>4473 data held in non-searchable image files
You can't be this fucking stupid can you? OCR has been around for decades.

More importantly, it's not a "what do you own" it's a "do you own anything", which they absolutely know about. Both me and the government know you own zero guns.

>>63943276
This. I can get a bunch of single shot 20ga or .410s for under $100 each and larp as Blackbeard

>>63943313
You got a coupon on range toys to pacify you out of actually using them you mutt retard.

I'm a euro (russian) and I feel like a subhuman because I live in Russia and I can't get a gun. I'm mentally ill and it's on my medical record so the chance I get a gun is nearing zero. If I was a mentally ill guy in America I could easily get all the guns I want because there's no centralized loony database and even if there was there are:
80% lowers, 3d printing, and most importantly private sales
I could just purchase any gun from anyone who's willing to sell it or at a gun show
it's a felony in most of "civvylized world"

>>63943348
If you want me to kill some politicians then: 1) try not insulting me, I'm not some lowly dog like yourself that can be pushed around 2) don't try inciting shit on independence day weekend and 3) don't pretend like you're an American

>>63943348
>finally admits he's a seething europoor
Go on how not increasing my taxes to pre-2018 levels is bad. I'll wait. And tell me exactly what was "backstabbing" and "kiked" with specific examples. I've got all day.

>>63942569
except the supreme court has ruled that the NFA is a tax and is constitutional. but if it isn't a tax anymore, what is it?

>>63943276
Time to shoot Cacodemons

>>63937740 (OP)
My 3D printer is about to have lots of legal fun

>>63943313
the issue is that the gun rights "win" could very quickly and easily turn into a loss and thats what has REAL Americans upset about this. if the courts take their sweet ass time, if the SCOTUS denies hearing the case and then the democrats get back into power and vote in a $20,000 tax stamp its GG. you will become one of those "i got mine while the getting was good, work hard and save 20k to buy one" boomers thumbing your nose at everyone who doesnt have NFA toys. on the flip side you wont be able to sell your NFA item even if you needed to because of that extreme tax number possibly inflation adjusted moving forward.

i dont wanna play the told you so game but the republicans chose more risk for the same reward and very likely cost themselves the mid terms. but you do you senpai.

>>63943842
>doesn't post gun
>doesn’t post hand
>doesn’t explain what’s bad about the bill
Nigger the tax stamp cost could have been raised at any time in the past too. They could have done the say as Hughes but for suppressors and SBRs. Democrats couldn’t even pass an AWB 2009 when they had all 3 houses and a national ban expired 5 years prior. They couldn’t in 2013 with control of the senate and presidency and 20 dead kids paraded around for months.

They are as impotent as you are. And as a brown, gunless foreigner, that’s a really low bar to clear.

>63943842
You have been saying this over and over in each thread
>i dont wanna play the told you so game
You’ll post guns before this ever happens

>>63941406
>t. no gunz

>>63943842
>This massive win that's been nearly 100 years coming is actually a bad thing
>You're $0 tax will actually become a bajillion dollar tax
Shut up fed. They're taking that $200 out of everyone of your paychecks and you're just gonna have to deal with not being able to afford your BLACKED-RAW subscription.

>>63941892
citation needed

>>63942714
we didn't have the votes to overcome the filibuster
>>63943150
which would have lead to some cucks like collins defecting

>>63938604
post gunz is an argument. if you don't on guns you have no standing

>>63943150
>They used the scapegoat parlimentarian to do what they didnt have the balls to do
there was no scapegoat, the parliamentarian wasn't impartial and the original bills were tossed because they didn't pass the byrd bath. the change to $0 let it pass the byrd bath

>>63943842
>the issue is that the gun rights "win" could very quickly and easily turn into a loss
it won't and this narrative is being astroturfed by histrionic faggots who revealed that they thrive off of having an excuse to yammer about bullshit
>thats what has REAL Americans upset about this
anyone whose parents aren't siblings or wasn't dropped on their head as a baby aren't upset about this at all
>the democrats get back into power and vote in a $20,000 tax stamp its GG
they had 91 years and they already tried this in 2018 and it was shot down immediately
>you will become one of those "i got mine while the getting was good, work hard and save 20k to buy one" boomers thumbing your nose at everyone who doesnt have NFA toys
it's looking more like the opposite with the faggots who seem to be suspiciously concerned about stamps being $0 now
>i dont wanna play the told you so game but the republicans chose more risk for the same reward and very likely cost themselves the mid terms. but you do you senpai.
honestly you shills need to put more effort into this shit

>>63943887
im not that anon you were calling no guns you dumb glowie

yeah the tax could have been increased at any time but it wasnt because everyone knows that the registration is the biggest reason why no one purchases NFA items. back in the day people didnt have the money but now they do its just that no one wants to deal with the registration portion.

congress could have created a hughes style ban on other NFA items but didnt because no one really thought to and the NFA is close enough to a defacto b& that they dont care.
>all 3 houses
my good european sir there are only 2 houses in the USA. the first AWB was super unpopular. so unpopular that they knew better than to try that shit again.

im still upset the republicans did a half measure instead of a full measure of freedom on our gun rights setting us up to have to fight longer with more money to secure a victory.

>>63942917
You don't call your mother often enough
Nobody will visit your grave
You have poor financial habits
You like your coffee with too much cream and sugar
You eat like shit but lie to yourself that it's okay
You're a human door mat
You're gonna end up in a manipulative relationship but accept being treated like shit just to receive attention
You have poor dental hygiene
Your taste in music is shit
You don't like pineapple on pizza because you let society bully you into hating it
You cave in to peer pressure very easily
You're an awful person to talk to
You're desperate for approval
You still wear axe like a 13 year old
You think your fetishes are weird while jacking it to borderline vanilla shit like stepsiblings
You drink IPAs
I'm out of insults for now, sorry
>>63942767
Nutrition has nothing to do with it, it's simply law that chili with beans if wrong. I don't make the rules, I just choose to eagerly enforce them

>>63942100
No, Thumper is a Destructive Device and still required the $200 tax, same with each individual explosive round. You can get chalk rounds that you assemble at the range without registering, however.

>>63937740 (OP)
Already have 3 suppressors. Gonna buy a Storger double barrel shotgun to saw off, been wanting to do that for close to a decade but never wanted to pay for the stamp on such a meme gun. Probably gonna SBR my AR pistols too and put real stocks on them.

>>63942698
Backbreaking the ATF's efile system is actually counterproductive buddy. We want more people to own NFA items, not less because someone decided to clown on the ATF and it broke the system.

>>63937763
i would pay $200 to not have to register.
the $200 coupon is fucking gay compared to what we almost came to.

>>63937763
I have a bunch of AR pistols that would be SBRs except I didn't want to spend the extra money. Now there's no such barrier so I'll be SBRing them on New Years Day.

>>63941845
Nothing in theory, but the likelihood someone does that isn't very high and if the ATF sees someone doing that, they're gonna go visit that guy and probably have a mechanism to make him knock it off.

>>63937765
>can i have sum spare change man 500 trillion aint enough bruh i finna starve

>nooooo we were supposed to cave to the dems and give them whatever they wanted so they might possibly think twice about their destroy America agenda!!!! now they'll keep doing all the things they were doing anyway!!!

I hate appeasementfags so much it's unreal.

>>63937740 (OP)
another 22 can and a dedicated 556 can. would also sbr a few more ar lowers and a 10/22. i havent done shit since obama changed rule 41f or p or what ever it was. use to be able to form 1 stuff with out leaving your house.

>>63944228
No one is buying it, shill.

>>63938641
Chili with beans is the correct way to make it. Sorry you live somewhere gay.

>>63944228
>Mad

>>63943937
there was no need to overcome a filibuster, buster
Thune/Vance could have over ruled the parlamentarian but instead chose to cuck out.

>>63943916
no one cares about your black fetish, faggot
this win is so "massive" that there is a chance it could back fire in our faces and we get an astronomically high tax stamp.

>>63943993
>it won't and this narrative is being astroturfed by histrionic faggots who revealed that they thrive off of having an excuse to yammer about bullshit
yeah here you are yammering on about bullshit
>it's looking more like the opposite with the faggots who seem to be suspiciously concerned about stamps being $0 now
its not about the tax being $0 its about the fact that the legal challenge could take years giving democrats time to regroup, take back power and fuck us all over again worse than before. how short sighted are you? the republican leadership didnt fully seal the deal and left our rights still open to attack.
>honestly you shills need to put more effort into this shit
glowie you need to put less effort into trying to data harvest pictures, fingerprints and serial numbers and go touch grass

>>63942767
can you use refried beans in chili?

>>63944275
>buster
>Thune/Vance could have over ruled the parlamentarian but instead chose to cuck out.
"Just nuke the parliamentarian" is the most low-iw shit ever. Your political illiteracy is why we're in this mess in the first place.

Oh wait
>that there is a chance it could back fire in our faces and we get an astronomically high tax stamp.
You do have *some* political literacy. In fact you just made two contradictory arguments. Hmmm.... Could you be acting in bad faith? Could your post be motivated by the seeethe of BBB passing? I guess we'll never know. Unless, of course, you post guns (you won't).

>>63944275
>there was no need to overcome a filibuster, buster
>Thune/Vance could have over ruled the parlamentarian but instead chose to cuck out.
they only passed the final bill 218-214 and 51-50. nuking the parliamentarian not only fucks shit up for us next time the commies are in power, but there is a high likelihood that at least 1 senator defects over it. they already had to give merkowski the moon to get her onboard. remember a bunch of dems wanted to nuke the filibuster and fucking finestine of all people wouldn't get onboard with that. some of the fags won't vote for shit if it goes against senate tradition

>>63944310
>some of the fags won't vote for shit if it goes against senate tradition
Its not about tradition, it's their experience from whenever their party was in the minority. Nuking the parliamentarian or filibuster is mutually assured destruction. Whatever you do can be undone and returned with interests when the other team gets in power.

>>63944272
Name one thing he's done for White voters

>>63944344
We'll just have to hope deportations remove Dems from power permanently. Nice digits btw.

>parliamentarian claims HPA/SHORT don't pass Byrd because NFA is not a tax
>NFA is now a tax of $0 dollars also making it not a tax by the plain English definition
>FOPA prohibits a federal registry which is now all that the NFA is
What is the counterargument, that it only regulates "some" firearms (and firearm accessories) so it's not a registry even though that's the only thing it is at this point?

>>63944409
>20x deportation budget

>>63944445
dems are going all in on the "accessories aren't arms" argument. see the 9th circuit's retarded ruling on mags, the brandon gayTF saying suppressors are accessories and not guns even though the law literally says they are guns, and Kagan, Sotymayor and a dem judge in NJ all conceding ARs are in common use.
All of the "evil features" like mags, suppressors, flash hiders, short barrels are going to be "accessories" and machineguns and DDs are going to be hidden behind the dangerous and unusual doctrine

>>63943217
Based cz52 enjoyer. Wish someone would make more 9mm barrels.

>>63937763
Only fools so poor 200 matters, and they don't need to piss cash away on fantasy toys.

>>63944633
Stop judging, homo.

>>63944445
NFA is still a tax because there's a $200 tax associated with machine guns which you're not allowed to pay.

>>63944484
>20x H1b approvals
Gotta get rid of the south american drug dealers to make room for the south asian rape gangs.

>>63944409
>yes I don't pay taxes how did you know

>>63944617
I really should shoot it more. It's a shitty gun but it's cool and I like it.

>>63944715
the ICE raids that preceded the LA chimp out a few weeks ago strung up SEAmonkeys fyi

>>63944409
>more deportations
>more ice arrests
>more ice detainments
>fewer visas
>free nfa items
>made you seethe

>>63944715
>20x H1b approvals
Halved actually. Shill.

SCOTUS does not have to rule on the NFA. Just an Appellate Court (say in the 5th circuit) and then for the government (DOJ) to not seek a Writ of Certiorari. It become the law of the land and nobody other that the government has "standing" to challenge it.

Dems will ofcourse challenge it when they have the power again and they will simultaneously challenge the FRTs too as well as anything else they can. The pendulum has swung our way this time but it will swing back against us.

Fuck those Rare Greed bitches for selling us out so they can get rich and check out when the Dems sue them in the future. The also updated their TOS and are keeping all sales and purchase records indefinitely to hand over when asked by a Dem president and DOJ.

>>63944715
>>63944409
>>63944228
Who is responsible for this ultra low effort shilling?

>>63940522
That’s why I have held off on a .22 can.

>>63943179
Thanks desu, it’s not /k/meta but I really like it.
-Aero Freedom stripped receiver set
-Brownells heavy profile chrome line A2 barrel (had a 5.5” pin and weld I removed)
-Microbest chrome BCG
-GOAT BC-16 grip
-Centurion Arms rail
-Troy tritium rear sight
-Steiner Mk4 Battle Light with Modbutton Lite
-Steiner DRS-1X red dot
-Vltor Imod stock
-ALG ACT trigger
-FCD buffer tune, controls
-Mack Brothers FAS556 suppressor

Picrel is the other pistol I took the free stamp for.

>>63944856
Yeah if you don’t have a .22 can already you should definitely wait another 6 months. Or for any can really.

My LGS is letting people buy now and they’ll hold it until 1/1 so you can skip the $200 tax stamp. Kinda nice because you can get what’s in stock now and it’s a win for them because they get cash now.

>>63941836
they will find that the making of an NFA item requires you to pay a Pittman Robertson excise tax and preserve the NFA.

>>63938650
it's pretty funny. just browsing the same thread on your phone and computer, just once, not even posting, is enough to narrow down a poster. g had a thing about this a while back, pretty funny how trivial it is.

>>63938662
this poster here. says he's got privately owned guns we don't know about. put em on the list.

pretty weird people think they wouldnt mark it down just because they didn't see a picture of a gun. that would have no visible evidence of personal ownership. you really think the spooks are thinking "ah, well, hes definitely not a risk. the guy whose trying as hard as possible to hide from us. not literally the exact sorta of juicy target we want or anything. haha".
>but he didn't post any pictures
so? list. name. done.

>>63944064
Why the fuck would anyone make chili without beans? That's just meat with some spices and meat does not need spices. The only reason to make chili to make beans more interesting. If you want a bowl of meat, just eat the meat as is. Meat doesn't need any friends, its good enough on its own.

>>63945216
It's this dumb Texan thing where they don't like beans in chili and get all elitist about it and claim they invented chili.
>If you know beans about chili, you know it ain't got no beans sonny!
Same shit Texas tries to pull with other food that they make sub-par and then claim they make the best version of.
Like claiming they know how to make Mexican food, when all they do is make school cafeteria-grade tex-mex knock offs.
Or claiming they make good BBQ, despite Missouri, Tennessee, and the Carolinas all making demonstratably better BBQ.
Just Texans being insufferable food fudds, as they are with most things.

>>63945206
>Enjoy your list
Those idiots will never understand, if they ever used a Credit Card to buy anything gun related, feds have already bought the pre filtered list from CC companies.

>>63945254
They always reply with
>But I used a debit card, hurrr durr

>>63944640
I judge FAILURE which is a choice. Why do you defend other losers?

>>63943291
This is for tax year 2025, not 2026. As in we're in 2025 and it's applicable to here and now after Trump signs it in to law. There's going to be a short moment for agencies to become compliant.

>>63942674
Get a load of Calvin over here!

>>63943887
>>63943842
nobody cares about $200 in 2025. $200 doesnt even buy you dinner on date night for you and your gf. the issue has always been the illegal registration and kiked bullshit that kikes make you submit like your hand prints and all this stupid faggotry that takes 6 months to 2 years to get. you fuking faggots are so busy celebrating the floor crumbs you got that youve forgotten your god given right to the actual feast on the table.

>>63942698
>RINO kikes in congress immediately introduce legislation to increase the ATF budget by a billion dollars and hire another 50,000 dog killing america hating golems in their next israel first omnibus bill

great plan you got there

>>63943150
>>63943150
republicans arent retarded they are the same team as democrats. israel first. billionaire first. american plebs last. MIGA kikes to the max

>>63945407
idk i got a whole ass meal for like 32 dollars but whatever

>>63945407
Then go donate another $200 to spic Fuentes since it’s chump change to a noguns like you

>>63945435
>>63945432
fuck off retard zoomer. you probably dont even have a job and take your mommys credit card to buy your date goyslop at tacobell

>>63945407
This is an American board, go away.

>>63945407
>all this stupid faggotry that takes 6 months to 2 years to get.
Took me <30min. to do the paperwork, fingerprinting, and photo in store, approved and picked up in 48hrs.
That's the norm now days.
>youve forgotten your god given right to the actual feast on the table.
Meanwhile, you:
>have a photo id
>pay to register a vehicle annually
>have a ssn/tin
>file a W2 or 1099 annually
>pay federal income tax
>pay state income tax
>pay payroll tax
>pay property tax
>pay sales tax
>BUT NOOOOO $200 NFA TAX IS WHERE I DRAW THE LINE!
>MUH GAWD GIVEN RIGHTS! DON'T DOX ME!
Face it, you're a late teenage/barely 20 something who has barely even been exposed to or lived in the real world.
Crying and stamping your feet over a small hurdle in your hobby because you lack perspective and maturity.
The fact that you're a frogposter as well reeks of a socially awkward chan loser who has failed to launch in his personal life.
Keep crying, nocans.

why do foreigners always come into these sort of threads to try and get Americans to shoot up federal buildings?

>>63945486
Vehicle ownership is not a constitutionally protected right. Firearm ownership is.

>>63945510
>Firearm ownership is
Suppressors aren't firearms and aren't necessary to the function of a firearm.

>>63945486
>registration is… LE BASED
The state of Trumpist /k/. With conservatives like this, who needs liberals?

>>63945521
>ignore the argument because you can't confront it
>whine and turn to MUH POLITICS
Keep crying, the problems in your world are oh so small.

>>63945531
Not the guy you’ve been having a pissing contest with, buddy. Your argument is just mega gay.

>>63945486
MIGA!

>>63945540
>Your argument is just mega gay.
The only thing gay is what you do with your boyfriend at night.
There's a reason you can't confront a single point of it.

>>63945407
post gun and hand

>>63945551
>um ur gay and thats why registration is based and trad!
Faggot.

>>63945583
>mentions gay shit first
>insists everyone else is gay
Projection.

>>63937740 (OP)
I have worked for BT-USA as a contractor (hi tim) and I can assure you they will be backlogged for months if this passes, they don't have enough employees to process orders if they get slammed.

so just expect that if you're going to buy from them, they make really good shit

>>63945517
Suppressors are literally firearms under US law.

>>63937740 (OP)
Didn't all the 'throw the NFA and ATF into deadnigger storage' provisions get removed entirely to appease the Dem minority and the Rhinocons so the Big Beautiful Bill would actually pass?

>>63945407
For the tenth time by at least six different people, you are brown and not American

>>63945407
>nobody cares about $200 in 2025.
^ This, if all I had to do was pay a $200 dollarydoo stamp for a suppressor and NOT have to go through all the legal hoops of obtaining the legal right to slap a long quite tube on my gun I would have fucking done it already. Hell even the laziest of fat welfare queens can get $200 by simply choosing to skip a few days of fine dinning at McDonald's and maybe canceling their Netflix subscription and obtaining their entertainment through other means.
Besides, just imagine how much debt could be wiped out (if we actually had a fiscally conservative government) if purchasing a silence snake wasn't giant headache?

Honestly I'd be fine with that compromise, of course with it gone now that leaves room for it to be tackled further in the courts to potentially be removed outright.

>>63945551
you were already debunked idiot take the L and leave or apologize if you want to save some face

>>63945555
>>63945749
>lets see yours
kike

>>63945763
i would pay $500 more just to not have a registration and submit my handprints to fednigger kikes. also just imagine what the laws will be like in 10 years when DNA profiling for precrime becomes normal in the kiked surveillance control grid and you have to submit DNA and your unique internet access ID to have AI scan your posting and browsing activities first. and thats just before kikes can finally phase out your rights completely and get rid of all guns from private ownership.

>>63945771
bad bots that make incomprehensible replies to unrelated posts get shut down

>>63945771
The CZ52 is mine. Here’s yesterday. Your turn
>inb4 more excuses
Oh no I showed the serial number on my can. The horror

>>63945800
>showed the serial number on my can.
Someone, not.me, has reported this as stolen.

>>63945823
okay, then what?

>>63945823
Ooooh I’m so scared

>>63944070
That's a shame, they always forget about the E when it comes to the ATF(E).

>>63944288
>nooooooo
>you shouldn't replace a political appointee to not fuck you over the first chance they get
why do you think replacing a political appointee is a bad thing, retard?
who was robert dove and who replaced him?
it's not a big deal, it's not hard to do, and it was retarded to cave rather than replace her OR just flat out ignore her.
there's nothing that requires them to take her ADVICE into consideration at all.

>>63945800
>cops show up at anons house
>do you have can
>yes
>they leave

>>63946865
Meant to reply to >>63945823

It's just funny watching Americans pay rent to own guns.

The rest of the world just buys guns illegally with cash, and we pay half the price that you do, for guns made in the US. The US has a closed market, you pay three times too much for both guns and ammo.

>>63946936
what in the goddamn thing are you snorting
that's some nuclear grade copium
I am euro too, and you absolutely CANNOT shrimply purchase a gun illegally
do you have any idea how that would work
sure, europe is better than japan and south korea where it's both VIRTUALLY and FACTUALLY impossible to get a gun legally/illegally
if a gun is in illegal circulation it has to get there somehow
how do you expect to buy a gun where the police works and sets up honeypots and everything else is just scams
unless you live in a complete crime ridden shithole which congrats on

>>63945823
What's it like to admit to a federal crime on a Honeypot?

>>63946936
>rent
You're a jealous thirdie who isn't accustomed to English, so I'll cut you some slack. But what do you think this word means?

>>63946964
They might be African. Which then checks out for buying an AK for a chicken and get free AIDs without US AIDs stopping it.

>>63944856
What mag is that?
>not worth paying $300 when you have a $200 stamp added on
Just buy a $500+ silencer before stamp like I did lol. Totally didn't spend double on what my 22 cost in the first place...

>>63945763
Only takes me about 15 minutes to submit all the paperwork for a new NFA addition to my trust. I'm sure you make $800 an hour so that $200 in 15 minutes wouldn't make sense to you.

>>63946936
Americans can get $400 AR-15s that are fully functional. WTF do you mean your 3rd world God forsaken shit hole can get AR-15s for less than $200. If the average IQ of your country wasn't 85 I'd accuse you of maliciously lying to me, but I honestly think you believe this information you're saying is real.

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