Ukraine's Foreign Minister shows conclusive evidence that China is actively supplying assisting the Russian military, with parts manufactured only 2 weeks ago:
https://x.com/andrii_sybiha/status/1941091923671851271?
What more evidence do we need that China is actively helping Russia in the Ukraine war?

>>63941781 (OP)
>private civilian companies selling duo use technology to 3rd parties that end up in Russian weapons
>state owned defense firms supplying military hardware directly to the Russian military
These are two very different things

china supplies ukraine too who gives a fuck

>>63941798
>duo
I meant dual

>>63941781 (OP)
I don't fucking care and I hate chinks.

>>63941781 (OP)
I don't really care, its an open secret they're supplying body armor, shells and electronic components; so making the jump to fully assembled drones is kinda a meaningless distinction. And what are we even supposed to do anyway? Sanctioning our largest manufacturing partner is not the same as sanctioning Russia or Iran, who produce nothing anybody cares about.

>>63941781 (OP)
Even the US MIC has Chinese suppliers. It doesn't mean that China is our ally.

This explains why Russia has been able to launch 500+ drone waves every night and will soon reach 1000 daily.

>>63941781 (OP)
maybe ukraine shouldn't have started the war then

>>63941820
What globalization does to a mf

>>63941838
zelensky doesn't care. he gets reddit karma for fighting with trump in front of tv cameras. that's all that matters.

>>63941816
there's also a good chance whichever company that made this was already sanctioned and they just don't sell to the west.

i thought it was obvious that it was a nato/west versus russia/east proxy war just utilizing ukrainian and russian soldiers (with some norks).

>>63941798
There are no private civillian companies in China
You do whatever business the CCP asks of you or you dont do business at all

>>63941781 (OP)
so what. its an arms deal, stop whining like a bitch.

>>63941876
So its cool if the west sells high end PGMs and delivery platforms to Taiwan, right?

>>63941874
Okay retard

>>63941825
and that's a good thing
here's why

>>63941781 (OP)
Was that like, something that was doubted? Since when? Of course they are.

>>63941882
sure
though this would be closer to say america selling some parts for the manufacturing of weapons

china also sells drones to ukraine

>>63941820

>>63941838
Huh?

>>63941897
Sadly, (you) are the neurologically-challenged gentleman.
Every business in China must submit to party control once it goes over a certain number of employees, and/or a certain cashflow figure.

>>63942023
>Random Chinese company is selling drones to Russia because the CCP forced them to
No, it's because they like money. You don't need to force a business to sell things to a paying customer, that's what they exist to do.

>>63941882
pretty sure we already have
>>63941874
yes, china deliberately turns a blind eye to private companies discreetly working with russia. no, this isn't some unique situation.
>>63942011
MAYBE UKRAINE SHOULDN'T HAVE STARTED THE WAR THEN

>>63942048
Ukraine didn’t start the war

>>63942058
They could end it. But zelensky would rather look tough in front of Trump than agree to a ceasefire.

>>63941825

>>63941874
the only involvement of the chinese goverment is this

any domestic company involved on the chinese stock market has to sell 20% of the stock to the goverment
any company involved on foreign sales and such has to sell 38% of the stocks to them

they have 8 million civil servants and high tech infusion
thats basicly a 0.3% of the population

wanna know the number for usa?
its 9.3%

>>63942096
I can't believe we're over 3 years in this war and this is how it's going. Why is the West so scared of winning?

>>63942096
If they can reach 30k a month, we could really start seeing huge shifts on the frontlines

>>63942058
it did though

>>63942176
I just want to point out that if Russia was target of 5000 Shaheeds per month it's economy would collapse. But Russia can produce such amount of Shaheeds. Entire West can't.

>>63942033
Exactly retard kun, they turn a blind eye to any russian sales. Industries such as, say, drone manufacturers until very recently probably didn't see explosive military sales in the scale of a war between two (debatably) well-developed nations.

Having a command economy and *a little* entrepreneurial allowance in *certain* industries (such as tech and electronics) can coexist. However, If this happened 40 years ago, DJI would be refered to as "Shenzen electronic motor & aerial robotics factory #1989" or some shit like that. All Chinese companies nominally have a high share owned by the CCP, if it isn't, they still can simply shut the company down and noone in China could stop it. The whole 'private company' thing is a ploy to make Chinese business seem less alien and faceless, and it clearly worked.

>>63942189
nah

>>63942196
>But China can produce such amount of Shaheeds. Entire West can't.
Fixed It for you

>>63942189
How?

>>63942196
>Entire West can't.
Yes they can, but they aren't a terrorist nation. Remember where the Shithead came from (first Israel, then Iran, and finally the Russhits get their hands on it) This is a terrorist weapon, and western weapons need more precision than, say a couple city blocks, not to mention their firecracker tier payload only capable of killing women and children, bitch ass benchod bitch bastard.

>>63942181
For that to happen they would have to start bombing the frontlines, not playgrounds and childrens cancerwards at hospitals

>>63942199
Despite no markings, experts believe the munition uses a computer processor manufactured by the American company Altera, RF modules by Analog Devices and LDO chips by Microchip Technology.[26]

Inspection of captured drones used by Russia during the 2022 invasion of Ukraine revealed that some Shahed-136 electronics were manufactured from foreign made components, such as a Texas Instruments TMS320 processor, a Polish made fuel pump on behalf of UK-based company TI Fluid Systems and a voltage converter from China.[27][28][29][30][excessive citations]

In 2023 the Jewish Chronicle reported that British universities had participated in drone development with Iran.[31]

In December 2023, the Ukrainian National Agency on Corruption Prevention stated that the Russian-produced Geran-2 included 55 parts made in the United States, 15 from China, 13 from Switzerland, and 6 from Japan.[32]

>>63942208
Cope.

>>63942209
Those smokes definitely come from playgrounds and children cancer hospitals storing highly explosive and flammable toys and medical material: https://x.com/RepDonBacon/status/1940967420103107002

>>63942033
Isn't Ukraine buying literally the same fucking drones, regardless, China isn't discriminatory in TSD. Based and yellow, im surprised we haven't seen fucking ads targeting the war from China, they clearly need to step up their chink jewerey.

>>63942214
They come out form liquid fuel storages.

>>63942209
>Inflicting "moderate" suffering on the civilian population suited NATO planners - the suffering would be used to break the population's will to resist and force it to rise up against Milosevic. This is also the reason behind the selection of targets without any military significance: factories producing cigarettes, cars, vacuum cleaners, artificial fertilizers, or state and military buildings which are primarily administrative and representative buildings, rather than command centers. Without any justification or rationale, NATO bombs also destroyed bridges in Novi Sad, the capital of Vojvodina, and an important cultural center often referred to as the "Serbian Athens."
The Serbs literally surrendered after proper terror bombing was done to their civilian infrastructure. Ukraine could fall the same way

>>63942214
And every building is military correct?

>>63942213
Seethe, the first nation to use Shaheed's was Israel (a terrorist state), then Iran (a terrorist state), and finally Russia (a failed terrorist state).

>>63942214
>only military targets can burn
>there's nothing flammable in civilian apartments
Least retarded zister.

>>63942222
>Ukraine could fall the same way
Russia has no air superiority, and slinging sub 500 pound warheads mounted on the front of moped engines will not make up for that.

Proper bombing could collapse Ukraine, but if the west has Ukraine's back with anything, it is essentials and subsidies for rebuilding, many more countries are willing to send help for non-military purposes (such as Japan).

>>63942222
>targets without any military significance: factories producing cigarettes, cars, vacuum cleaners, artificial fertilizers
Lists dual-purpose factories (cigarette packers -> cartridge fillers; cars, vacuum cleaners -> self-evident; artificial fertilizers -> lol, lmao) as "no military significance". Smells like s*rb apologism.

>Without any justification or rationale, NATO bombs also destroyed bridges in Novi Sad, the capital of Vojvodina
100% written by a S*rb. Novi Sad was one of the main oil industry centers of Serbia. As such, it had military significance, like Ploesti and Campina 50 years prior.

>>63942222
NATO had complete control over the airspace in Serbia. Not the case in Ukraine

>>63942240
>Russia has no air superiority,
Yeah and missiles spam is working substitute for that. We enter new era of air power accessable for not so bright 3rd wolders and West is in clueless slumber.

>slinging sub 500 pound warheads mounted on the front of moped engines will not make up for that.
Anon even 10 pounds warheads can deliver tremendous damages to energy infrastructure if applied in right places. See /k/ommando talks how they are gonna collapse regime in civil war by sabotaging such objects.

>>63942269
>and West is in clueless slumber
Post hand, outlet and timestamp.

>>63942252
When they quote something they wlearly weren't smart enough to write but don't give away the source you can usually tell it's bullshit.

>>63942269
>missiles spam
What missiles? Russian stocks have been dwindling since 2023, they have been reduced to token 'FU' attacks on energy infrastructure that either miss their target or have the damage repaired in less than a week. I cant wait for winter, I bet their will be even more shitsickles and frozen living rooms for everyone!

>tremendous damages to energy infrastructure if applied in right places

Yea, but if the weapon cant hit the side of a barn how will its sub 100kg warhead damage their target reliably?

>>63942280
Can you list dual purpose industry of your country?

>>63942289
>What missiles? Russian stocks have been dwindling since 2023
>>63942096
https://dev.ua/en/news/drony-perekhopliuvachi-zbyvaly-tsili-nad-kyievom-1751614552

>>63942096
#geraned
>>63942289
>Russian stocks have been dwindling since 2023
this, at best they have 2 weeks worth of missiles left

>>63941781 (OP)
Yeah
Gonna do anything about it cuck?

>>63942297
>A total of 550 targets were hit, of which at least 330 were Russian-Iranian „shaheeds“, missiles were also used, including ballistic ones,» the president said.

>>63942302
Dwindling does not mean gone, just because they still fire missiles doesn't mean they have a sizable amount. They attack with large scale strikes every few weeks or so, that is because they need to build enough missiles to actually have a sizable wave. They have already resorted to using S-300 missiles as shitty quasi ballistic missiles.

They have two weeks of missiles available to fire (likely). But they would be limited in size and scope due to the fact that they have no reasonable stockpiles left. If they could materialize the missiles using all the African men and women they are importing, perhaps they would have stocks, but their industry is over encumbered as it is.

Also, note the date on the pic, 2022, their strikes have only become more impotent and less frequent since this info graphic was made.

>>63942234
Shaheeds also started getting filled with some napalm like slime too sooooo yea

>>63942289
>Russian stocks have been dwindling since 2023, they have been reduced to token 'FU' attacks on energy infrastructure that either miss their target or have the damage repaired in less than a week. I cant wait for winter, I bet their will be even more shitsickles and frozen living rooms for everyone!

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>>63942347
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>>63942096
If shasheed is so great, why don't 5k/month drone spam do anything?

>>63942155
>they have 8 million civil servants and high tech infusion
>thats basicly a 0.3% of the population
Are we including state security that is at least another 30-40 million?

>>63942461
>If shasheed is so great, why don't 5k/month drone spam do anything?
Terror bombing on this scale doesn't do shit. And never will. It's just seething

>>63942461
Because only recently they've been able to launch such numbers with the chinks helping with production.

>>63941781 (OP)
So what. The US still exports to Russia.

>>63941781 (OP)
Ukraine deserves it for inventing the webp format. I hope Russia kills every last one of them.

>>63941816
that is a good boy. spread those cheeks wide apart for big chang cock

>>63942461
give it some time, it's been a few big boom days and it's already rustling some jimmies

>>63942465
>Terror bombing on this scale doesn't do shit
So the Ukraine didn't need its electric grid anyway?

>electric grid
Tumor weaks until hohols are in the stone age?

>>63941781 (OP)
Why don't they sanction China then?
What? Can't? Worldwide economic disaster? Oh. OK then.

>>63941820
The power of magnets.

>>63941781 (OP)
>conclusive evidence that China is actively supplying assisting the Russian military
Nobodybever said they can't. Let them play proxie war, too.

Oinkers seething

You are a lost cause, deal with it. I suggest suicide for you.