Nukes vs Stealth Aircraft - /k/ (#63946033) [Archived: 593 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:43:58 AM No.63946033
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I have heard that VHF radars can determine the general location of stealthy aircraft. Could you not then fire a 5 megaton nuclear missile at that general location and airburst it to destroy the aircraft?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:52:33 AM No.63946059
>>63946033 (OP)
>heavy thunderstorms 300km away
>launch nukes
Fund it.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:57:50 AM No.63946076
No need for nukes, just use a missile with active radar homing
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:44:08 AM No.63946189
>>63946033 (OP)
I mean sure, but why?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:52:27 AM No.63946211
>>63946033 (OP)
Because it would be prohibitively expensive both politically and economically? At that point you're better off doing a countervalue strike.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:18:49 AM No.63946274
>>63946033 (OP)
No. Don't be stupid.
Lets say you detect something, 99.99999% it's some interference that you would normally screen out. But because captain moron is trying to detect a stealth aircraft you are now tossing nukes around every day out of fear of a stealth aircraft.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:33:17 AM No.63946309
>>63946211
> economically
a nuke costs10 to 100 million
a single B-2 costs 4 billion (700 million for a B-21)
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:38:09 AM No.63946320
>>63946309
Setting off 5MT air bursts over your own nation because you falsely detected something you thought was a stealth bomber is not sustainable.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:41:37 AM No.63946331
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>>63946309
Is this genuinely the first time you have ever thought about strategic weapons?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:47:31 AM No.63946343
>>63946320
5 MT is ofc insane (unless if over the sea) but something like a Minuteman (300 kt) could be reasonable
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:59:14 AM No.63946384
>>63946343
Firing for 300kt nuclear weapons because your radar detected a change in air pressure isn't sustainable.

Look dumb people think that all sorts of nonsense solution will let them target stealth aircraft, while not really knowing that radar is mostly throwing away low power results because everything causes a detectable reflections. Just detecting something doesn't mean it's something you care about.
In a dark room turning on a very bright single source of light causes all the tiny bits of stuff (dust) in the air to reflect. Are those dust motes chairs or other objects? Or is the chair behind the dust and your eyes and brain filter out the low value returns as not chairs when you have more light?

When you are looking at full lighting you are still physically seeing the dust but filter it out completely because your brain doesn't need to be aware of it. All the ideas for detecting stealth by turning up the sensitivity or using different wavelengths of radar it just looking at dust in the air and thinking because stealth bombers might return the light of a dust mote you can detect it that way but not thinking about the overwhelming number of false positives.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:39:56 AM No.63946473
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>nuclear AA
We're so back
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:37:01 AM No.63946564
>>63946384
>Firing for 300kt nuclear weapons because your radar detected a change in air pressure isn't sustainable.

this is the level of education americans have
radars work by decluttering noise you moron

vhf radars couldnt do shit up untill late 00s cause there werent any powerfull cpus at the time to do it fast enough
nowdays at least the russians are using gpu's to declutter
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:48:18 AM No.63946586
>>63946564
Go find your shift key and come back.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:39:14 PM No.63946797
>Light the aircraft up by bouncing tons of ionising radiation off it.
>Follow up with a second more accurate nuke.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:57:49 PM No.63946829
this seems like it could be very fun as material for like a sci-fi short story featuring 1950s humans VS aliens with early 21st century who happened to have stumbled on the secrets to a low-energy momentumless FTL drive and have shown up to earth
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 1:34:26 PM No.63946881
>>63946384
Correct response. There is no technological solution a 3rd world country can just buy, turn on, and be safe from stealth. The only way to protect your airspace is to have long-wavelength radar and constant air patrols to investigate contacts. But, this is something 3rd world countries are too corrupt to actually pay for so their fate is just to be bombed whenever a stealth Air Force feels like it.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:41:39 PM No.63947443
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:56:42 PM No.63947483
>>63946881
Problem with this is that pretty much all 5th gens are gonna detect you long before you detect them with fighter sized radars (either with distributed IRST or their own radar) so you're still doing the air combat equivalent of charging towards a guy who is wearing a ghillie suit holding a shotgun in the dark while you have a flashlight and a baseball bat
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:59:50 PM No.63947492
>>63946033 (OP)
>flock of birds comes up on an OTH radar
>5 megatons
>balloons fly up over a small town in your own country
>5 megatons
>rain starts to fall
>5 megatons
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:54:50 PM No.63947846
>>63946033 (OP)
>what is the false alarm rate
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 4:51:06 AM No.63950140
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>>63946033 (OP)
Kind of excessive. That'd be like shooting a fly with a 12 gauge. But I can sort of see the teenaged logic behind doing so, but No. Not feasable.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:15:23 PM No.63951317
>>63946033 (OP)
By the time you can hit the stealth plane with a nuke you're already going to be inside the blast radius. It's a combination of reduced detection range and nukes being Significantly more expensive than other munitions. You can't exactly have a nuke on every airbase.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:25:43 PM No.63951340
>>63947443
The Delta Dart (?) vs. F-16 story always cracks me up
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:36:18 PM No.63951358
>>63946829
https://www.eyeofmidas.com/scifi/Turtledove_RoadNotTaken.pdf
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 1:42:55 PM No.63951370
Bunch of new flags itt
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nike_Hercules
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 2:04:37 PM No.63951409
>>63946331
"Yes ma'am I was in an inverted dive with a Tomahawk. It emailed me a picture."