Chinaโ€™s Mysterious Ekranoplan Seen In Full For First Time - /k/ (#63946043) [Archived: 482 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:46:31 AM No.63946043
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>We are getting our first full look at Chinaโ€™s wing-in-ground effect (WIG) craft. It was first identified last week by our friend and submarine warfare analyst HI Sutton. You can read his initial post at Naval News here. It was originally spotted in an image with its nose section obscured. In that image, the flying-boat-hulled aircraft was pictured sitting on a pier situated on the Bohai Sea, which sits at the northwestern reach of the South China Sea.
>As we have discussed many times before, the Soviet Union was famed for its experimentation and semi-operational use of large WIG craft known as Ekranoplans. The capability and tactical concepts surrounding it never really caught on en-masse, but we are currently experiencing a renaissance of sorts for large WIG aircraft that aim to race above the thick air above the water with relative efficiency and speed (most can fly less efficiently at higher altitudes too). The U.S. is developing just such an aircraft, the Liberty Lifer, in hopes that it could be used to deliver heavy cargo, personnel and materiel to far-flung locales across the great expanses of the Pacific. In doing so it would help reduce some of the Pentagonโ€™s looming logistic woes were it to fight across such a large theater.
>Flying low utilizing the thick cushion of air above the water to increase lift and decrease drag, the aircraft also stays under the surface/land-based radar horizon. Considering it is an aircraft, not a boat, it isnโ€™t vulnerable to mines, submarines, and other dangers that can lurk even in seemingly lower-threat waters.
>This is where such an aircraft would be useful even in a high-end fight โ€” providing logistical support to remote areas and especially in recovering downed aircrew and other personnel. Even sea control and anti-submarine warfare applications are real possibilities.
IMPLESSIVE!: https://www.twz.com/air/chinas-mysterious-sea-skimming-ekranoplan-seen-in-full-view
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 6:58:54 AM No.63946080
>>63946043 (OP)
Looks fake as shit. Photoslop, and not a good one.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:02:51 AM No.63946092
>>63946043 (OP)
Not much crew capacity. I'd imagine a dozen or more "Liberty Lifters" attacking Taiwan pre-dawn would be something, but I think we would see the buildup days before.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:02:57 AM No.63946093
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>>63946080
It's literally the front view of the same Ekranoplan that was revealed last week by HI Sutton: https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2025/06/china-builds-new-jet-powered-large-ekranoplan/
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:07:07 AM No.63946095
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>>63946092
It looks about the size of an A-90 Orlyonok which had a capacity to carry 150 personnel
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:07:08 AM No.63946096
>>63946093
Looks fake as shit too. Better photoslop, but not by much.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:12:45 AM No.63946108
What's use case of ground effect vehicle, it can't operate on bad weather
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:12:52 AM No.63946109
>>63946092
Due to their speed they wouldn't need to deployed l right across the strait. They could be "deployed" in large numbers in the SCS or Bohai Sea doing "patrols" and "exercises", then sprint towards Taiwan at the last moment. That's the versatility of having "ships" that travels at 400km gives you.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:13:04 AM No.63946110
>builds all kinds of regular ships
>toys around with all kinds of experimental craft
Meanwhile:
>US
>struggles to build a frigate
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:25:20 AM No.63946132
>>63946108
Aircraft like speeds, but with the payload and endurance closer to ships. Most threats against ships such as sea mines or submarines don't affect them at all since they float over the water. And due to the ground effect they can be built much larger and heavier than any plane. The MTOW of the original KM Ekranoplan was 500+ tons, and could still be made even bigger and heavier.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:29:06 AM No.63946142
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>>63946110
We also have a GEV in the works, the "Liberty Lifter"
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:38:19 AM No.63946169
Seems to me like they're a potential counter to the US idea of island-hopping.
The US tries to pull a sneeki-breeki, but the Chinese use ekranoplans to quickly reinforce the garrisons.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:41:16 AM No.63946180
>>63946169
They would be also great at ASW role
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:44:25 AM No.63946190
DENNALPLAN
DENNALPLAN
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>>63946043 (OP)
EKRANOPLAN!
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:03:52 AM No.63946235
>>63946169
what stops the plane from getting shot?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:09:48 AM No.63946251
>>63946235
It's traveling at 400km/h instead of just 30-50km/h
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:22:17 AM No.63946279
>>63946251
>It's traveling at 400km/h instead of just 30-50km/h
how? and that's still within shooting down speeds
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:25:18 AM No.63946287
>>63946279
reaction times and ability to reposition assets that would dp the firingtobe in range before the GEV has zipped through I would guess
I am doubtful though, considerig how much bad weather and rough waves there are
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:28:38 AM No.63946298
>>63946287
did you have an aneurism?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:29:39 AM No.63946302
>>63946298
>aneurism
*aneurysm
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:34:23 AM No.63946312
>>63946235
It's not a plane but an GEV that floats 3-5m above a cushion of air above the water. This means that sea mines and submarines, where the US had a huge advantage over the Chinese in the Pacific, are completely neutralised. They could only be engaged by air assets that can penetrate into Chinese IADS.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:39:42 AM No.63946326
>>63946312
>They could only be engaged by air assets that can penetrate into Chinese IADS
so most US aircraft
and why can't the US just strike them when they make landfall?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:41:25 AM No.63946330
>>63946326
Good luck trying to fly 4.5 gen planes into their IADS and DCA like the pajeets found out the hard way
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:43:22 AM No.63946334
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>>63946326
Good luck!
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:48:23 AM No.63946347
>>63946330
>>63946334
the US aren't jeets, have 5th gens, and chinese vaporware isn't going to do much defending
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:49:59 AM No.63946349
>>63946312
Sub launched barrage balloon street shitter
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:52:11 AM No.63946360
>>63946347
>Thinks US E-3s are going to survive getting spammed by Fox-3s
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 8:54:12 AM No.63946368
>>63946360
Why the fuck would e-3s be doing deep strike missions?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:12:25 AM No.63946406
>>63946360
Killing AWACS has been the goal since the cold war, the Burgers have been figuring out how to tanker fighters forever since forever, you are genuinely retarded if you think protecting their crown jewel isn't the first priority
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:18:55 AM No.63946420
>>63946190
Lisa needs braces
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:21:01 AM No.63946426
>>63946132
ok, now you have a plane speed boat on the black sea or some other inland sea.

So what? What are you going to use it for? Literally nothing.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:21:40 AM No.63946428
>>63946330
>4.5 gen planes
Retard
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:36:34 AM No.63946673
>>63946312
You know that sonar can detect low flying aircraft, right?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:40:03 AM No.63946682
>>63946673
And what's the sub going to do about It? Launch a torpedo at It?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:41:54 AM No.63946685
>>63946682
You know submarines can launch missiles, right?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:44:22 AM No.63946689
>>63946685
So the attack sub is going to launch a Tomahawk at a moving target?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:56:59 AM No.63946717
>>63946685
Harpwns were designed for targets going 35 knots, not 150.
Also, having to go loud, in order to nail some shitty ekranoplan, is a difficult calculation to make by a sub captain.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:05:36 PM No.63946729
>>63946043 (OP)
woooow 1950s technology, mucho mysterious, very implessive.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:10:47 PM No.63946741
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>>63946729
>woooow 1940s technology, mucho mysterious, very implessive.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:12:03 PM No.63946747
>>63946741
Inbred
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 12:25:41 PM No.63946771
>>63946741
Northrop beat them to the punch
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 2:09:11 PM No.63946961
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>>63946741
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:04:37 PM No.63947308
>>63946961
The first prop version of the German HO-229 was actually built in 1944, not 1942!!! But yes. America and Germany were always neck and neck with each other in terms of military technology up until the end of WW2.
We always copied each other any time one of us came up with a good idea.

The Germans actually had a remote controlled spy drone all the way back in 1932! It was the Argus As-292.
America also quickly developed a remote controlled drone called the Radioplane OQ-2 after finding a crashed Argus in 1936, which was retrieved from the Ocean by the British.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:09:13 PM No.63947323
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>>63946741
>>63946961
>bloque ton chemin
France, 1876
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:18:13 PM No.63947361
>>63946251
Missiles travel at XXXX km/h. 10 times the speed of that turd with the RCS of a Zeppelin.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:24:48 PM No.63947384
>>63946689
>>63946717
No, An AIM-9X.
https://www.twz.com/6894/have-submarine-launched-anti-aircraft-missiles-finally-come-of-age
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:26:35 PM No.63947395
>>63947323
Damn, check out the booty on that one
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:33:06 PM No.63947411
>>63946169
island hopping isn't sneeki-breeki lol, it's maximum violence
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:36:24 PM No.63947422
it's always like this
>picture of chinese prototype appears
>implessive
>the amelican centuly is ovel
>implessive
>hello, it is I, john amerikanski from arkensas oblast. I work wuth the navy and can say that we are finished
>implessive
>capability dick measuring with made up numbers
>it's already obsolete because of DroNeS
>actually the Nazis already...
>all while op is never to be seen again
you should all kill your self or fucking season your posts
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:36:50 PM No.63947425
>>63946961
american propaganda, what worthless piles of vomit you truly are
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:38:59 PM No.63947434
ekranoplan-soviet-russia-5-608x351
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>>63946043 (OP)
Why is it only the communists who get cool shit like WiGE vehicles?
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:54:11 PM No.63947474
>>63947422
This time is a little different because China's new superweapon is an abandoned Russian prototype from half a century ago instead of an abandoned American prototype from half a century ago. It's good to see them branching out.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 4:56:23 PM No.63947482
>>63947425
cope and seethe
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 5:47:11 PM No.63947628
caspian monster
caspian monster
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:13:49 PM No.63948304
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>>63947474
china is stronger than your shithole
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:27:27 PM No.63948337
>>63947434
Because the capitalist West has a mastery over conventional technology and logistics, so the commie East needs to be creative and unorthodox in order to achieve parity.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:36:03 PM No.63948352
>>63946043 (OP)
>Considering it is an aircraft, not a boat, it isnโ€™t vulnerable to mines,
Why would it invulnerable to mines, couldn't you make floating mines that launch explosive charge into air when they detect something above them
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:38:52 PM No.63948358
>>63946142
May we see it?
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:45:34 PM No.63948391
>>63948352
Well no, obviously you can't design a new weapon to counter it because you just can't.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:45:49 PM No.63948393
>>63946043 (OP)
The main problem with ground effect aircraft is that their maneuverability is incredibly bad, which is why the Soviets never commissioned any into active duty.
The avionics problems are likely solvable with modern computers, but they are similar to hovercraft in how they take enormous turns.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 10:01:35 PM No.63948466
>>63947422
>I work wuth the navy and can say that we are finished
If you had to work with the Navy you'd unfortunately agree; abundance of incompetence breeds pessimism.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 11:02:56 PM No.63948793
>>63946426
invading taiwan?
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:28:59 PM No.63951232
>>63946043 (OP)

> USMC are planning to take unoccupied islands with a 15 knot medium transport. If they ever get built.
> Chinese grab the islands first with their 400 mph magic seaplane

Pacific War 2 is gonna be a short one.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:33:46 PM No.63951251
>>63946043 (OP)
That looks AI generated, quite honestly.
Anonymous
7/7/2025, 12:49:56 PM No.63951275
>>63946043 (OP)
They are really going to invade Taรฏwan aren't they?