Thread 63949011

What are ways to weaponize plants to help reinforce static positions, or repurpose them in offensive roles?
Poison ivy smoke can be very dangerous, for instance.
Bamboo spikes as booby traps.
Obviously spicy peppers can be used to purify capsaicin.

>>63949011 (OP)
Defensive gardening has been a thing for awhile. Lots of threads about it. The reality is you can only do it if you're way away from the people you'd need to defensive garden for to begin with so it's kind of a moot point.

Ok but where's maomao?

Dropping Poison Sumac/oak/ivy, Giant hogweed, Kudzu and poisonous mushroom substrates from bombers over the enemies environment as invasive species.

>>63949021
You can still plant thorny shrubs in bad neighborhoods, you just need some dirt under your windows.

None of these plants have the immediate incapacitating effects I want.

>>63949023
Convulsing in the corner.

>>63949011 (OP)
crush giant hogweed in a compactor and launch the sap using a watercannon.
or a supersoaker for personal use.
you could do this with northern water hemlock as well to much deadlier effect but the plants aren't as easy to find and don't get as big.

>>63949215
i love maomao, i would hand her my brush cutter and let her mow the asian hogweed if she tugged on my shirt and asked nicely.

send infiltrators into the enemy state and throw seedballs with nutrients and highly destructive invasive plants everywhere.
it'll do huge economic damage.
just make sure it doesn't cross back into your border.

>>63949011 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abatis

>>63949011 (OP)
Guerrilla gardening, except with kudzu, hogweed, witseria and sedge grass, and spread all over pasture and cropland.

>>63949240
also japanese knotweed.

>>63949011 (OP)
>Poison ivy smoke can be very dangerous
Effective, but highly dependent on wind direction.
>Bamboo spikes as booby traps
Based and Viet-Cong pilled. Don't forget to rub shit on them for poison damage.

You could probably rig something up with logs and tripwires tooif you can funnel your opps onto a specific path.

>>63949011 (OP)
>>63949207
Oh boy do I have a deathweed for you then
>Hyper aggressive weed that kicks any other plant life out of ecosystem
>Mature plant can easily reach 3-5 meters height, with leaves being at 1.5-2 meters wide
>Adult plants can tank -7°C, seeds in the ground can tank up to -40°C, plus its seeds start growing at winter
>Gives anything that skirts it without full-on hazmat very nasty chemical burns that never fully heal
>Did I already say that its an aggressive weed? If you have some time then you won't even need that many seeds; give it a year or two and dozen of thos will form a thick jungle
>Even flamethrowering it won't do shit in the long run, just as much of it as before will regrow next year
>Chemical compoind covering it ruins your cells on a DNA level aerosolic version will quickly suffocate anything standing near
>Did I say that the same compoind is scientifically proven to be mutagenic, with the ability to destroy chromosomes? Well yeah, its also that

>>63949280
Get out of here S.T.A.L.K.E.R.!

>>63949280
>carrot family moment
Whoever figured out which ones were edible must have been extremely brave, stupid, and/or desperate.

>>63949021
>The reality is you can only do it if you're way away from the people you'd need to defensive garden for to begin with so it's kind of a moot point.
That's not even close to true.

Something as simple as planting barberry bushes under your windows or growing bougainvillea up a climbable downpipe can go a long way toward impeding access.

>>63949280
it also has a giant carrotlike root (it's in the same family) that stores a shitload of food, allowing it to survive multiple cut n' burns over multiple years.
if you try to cut up the roots underground, they will just split and grow multiple smaller ones.

these things along with their sister species heracleum mantegazzianum are the fucking xenomorphs of the plant world, they should've never breached their containment zone, but we planted them in gardens because they looked pretty and soviets thought they'd make great cattlefeed.

>>63949280
Fuck, I just realized that I had a stroke while writing this
But yeah, if you want a self-replicating area denial plant then this satanic thing will surely suffice.
>>63949293
Well, it is a puccian-bred weed...

What would be the most dangerous combination of invasive plant species to harass the enemy? Giant hogweed for area denial and Kudzu to spread to everything else? Maybe some kind of burrs for extra annoyance or tumbleweeds that can move around and get stuck in enemy equipment.

>>63949372
you might not be able to use all of them at the same time because some are always gonna be climate restricted from that area.
tumbleweeds work better in dry areas.

>>63949325
>and soviets thought they'd make great cattlefeed
Well, they DID make for a good munch for cows and goats, its just that containing them in an open field was virtually impossible once planted, not to mention outright dangerous to any human.
I do wonder how the hell did these monsters came to be in some siberian region, when something like South America or Australia would be a lot more up their speed.

>>63949386
they DID up until the point the cattle eating them stopped producing milk, caught all sorts of health issues, straight up died, or became completely infertile.
it wasn't just about them being hard to contain, most ungulates do NOT have good resistance to these plants and eating them as an exlusive diet was extremely unhealthy for them.

>>63949280
Soviets brought it from caucasus highlands(where it was contained due to no freezing temperatures needed for seeds to germinate at lower altitudes).
Thought it would be a great source of silage, a superfood for cows. Cows didnt like it too much, and they say milk tasted weird, so the efforts were eventually abandoned.
Somehow it didnt spread too much during soviet times, but afterwards its wild population seen explosive growth basically everywhere in russia.

If we are assuming that the enemy is not using bulldozers or any other kind of mechanical method of removing/destroying hedges Himalayan Blackberry is an excellent candidate for area denial. And you get a tasty treat are in season too.

Grassland with kudzu covering the shrubs is simply difficult to walk on.
Jungle looks better because the undergrowth doesn't grow in the shade of the treetops.

>>63949217
Imagine loading one of these things with heracleum mixture
This is some GLA-tier shit right here

>>63949011 (OP)
plant some of these guys in your poison ivy maginot line

>>63949011 (OP)
Some suggestions
>The Manchineel tree
>The Teddy Bear Cholla
>The Gympie Gympie (as a QLDigger it has my vote of “fuck this guy and the retarded horse it wandered in on”
>Broomrape

>>63949207
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchineel

>>63949011 (OP)
>>63949011 (OP)
Some commie chink bitch got busted with a crop destroying fungus recently. Her bf fled the country.
https://apnews.com/article/chinese-scientist-toxic-fungus-michigan-8ef7ac03d2c39b4c747b3b626f3a0ea1

rose whip

A interesting thing I found is that there were small plots of giant hogweed discovered on Hokkaido, Japan just this year. Since these are in no way native to Japan, and there is no mainland connection for them to spread there naturally, this could mean two things: either some retarded hillbilly tourist forgot to double-check his overalls for any stray seeds, or some faggot deliberately brought them to commit eco-terrorism on japs.

>>63949023
>>63949215
>>63949220
I want S3 to start now instead of in like a year or whatever the production time will be
its not fair

>>63949011 (OP)
Brambles are like the barbed wire of the plant world.

So brambles are just various wild species of the genus Rubus, of which the domesticated members are blackberries, raspberries, etc. They are incredibly widespread and you can find a species for any climate from the equator to the poles. They grow new canes every year on which they flower, in commercial growing they would get cut back yearly to remove old canes, but if you're growing them defensively you should let the canes accumulate over a few seasons to form a thick hedge. You should still prune them to encourage new growth, but always maintain a core of old canes.

Also if you surround your property with them you will literally have more berries than you can possibly eat

>>63950977
Bamboo can be used to selectively close off areas while still being able to see though, you can use selectively placed clumps or strips of bamboo to funnel potential attackers into choke points.

You can combine this with a bramble hedge to create a funnel to a sparser section of the hedge to bait enemies into trying to get through there, which will lead to them getting tangled in the brambles

>>63949011 (OP)
Getting splashed with pure nicotine onto exposed skin can kill you, and if it doesn't it will severely incapacitate you. Think of what you could do with aerosolized nictonine concentrate

Nicotiana tabacum is the highly bred domesticated tobacco, but there is another species, Nicotiana rustica, called wild tobacco or Aztec tobacco that has 3-9 times the nicotine content of N. tabacum.

>>63949280
>Gives anything that skirts it without full-on hazmat very nasty chemical burns that never fully heal
Is this the same plant that's full of furanocoumarins that cause instant skin damage that will probably also get covered in blisters from the slightest exposure to UV light?
The damage is said to be deep enough that the UV-triggered blister reaction may take years to go away.

The recommendation in Finland is to cut it down very carefully with appropriate protective gear, burn the plant (composting it might not destroy the seeds) and then leave the infested area covered with plastic tarps or something to make sure it doesn't grow back. Or just keep checking for any new growths for a few years.

>>63949280
That thing is straight from Nurgle's garden.

>>63950894
You can download the LNs and read ahead if you want.

>>63950995
>Bamboo can be used to selectively close off areas
>bamboo
>selectively
good luck containing it

>>63951708
That's part of its appeal.

>>63951708
why contain it?

>>63949011 (OP)
>Weaponizing plants
drop opium laced cigarettes on enemy positions

>>63951945
>>63952159
It's not really selectively closing off an area if it closes off all the other areas too

>>63952181
yeah but why contain it?

>>63949280
>Stalin's Revenge
Forget nukes, iranians only need to fill cheap V2 ballistics w seeds and fling it to the kikes and wait

>>63949011 (OP)
Hedge maze with embedded razor wire.

>>63952239
i think it's a bit too arid for them to be very dominant plants there.

>>63952296
this
as someone who sometimes has to do maintainance on old forest edges, sometimes we find that the bushes on the edge of the woods that we need to remove are filled with razor wire from old fences that are almost impossible to see.
if the wire is thick enough it will fuck up, jam or even destroy your equipment, that shit increases the time it takes to remove by 3x

>>63951113
>Is this the same plant that's full of furanocoumarins that cause instant skin damage that will probably also get covered in blisters from the slightest exposure to UV light?
Yep, it's these exact things.
As for getting rid of them, it was discovered that topinambur roots are the only plants to win the turf war against hogweed seedlings and prevent it from regrowing, though you would need to re-plant occasionally as hogweed seeds can remain docile in the ground for years before finally dying.
>>63951131
It's definitely way up there with other hellish plant life like nettle trees and gympy-gympies.
>>63952300
This, unfortunately.
While heracleums can withstand cold climates really well, hot and arid climates, while not being deadly, will have a significant negative impact on its growth periods and the amound of healthy seeds. It may take a decade or more for them to spread in any noticeable way.
And knowing kikes, they'll just start harvesting it to then douse the entire Gaza with its aerosolized sap.

>>63952463
you'd be better off planting tumbleweeds over there.

>>63951326
Im already caught up, I have them on J-novel

>>63952311
Greenpeace used to embed nails in trees for that reason iirc

>>63949372
>Maybe some kind of burrs for extra annoyance
these fuckers are evil evil evil

>>63953417
>look it up
>it's real
What the fuck

viability of selecting plants to attract specific insects to the premises?

>>63953539
Depends on what insects you want. With bees for example, I know it's pretty easy just by growing flowers that produce nectar in the months the bees are active for; viper's bugloss and/or lavender are apparently best.

>>63949011 (OP)
Poison Ivy sucks at what's worse is not only does it look slightly different from plant to plant, but has so many lookalikes.

>>63950888
>or some faggot deliberately brought them to commit eco-terrorism
China has attacked the US this way several times. Why wouldn't they do the same to Japan?

I forgot the name but iirc there's a tree with a sap so irritating, the rainwater flushed down from its leaves will hurt you.

>>63953571
if you want them to nest nearby, you will have to provide a place for them, bees don't just settle anywhere like wasps do. they prefer cavities like inbetween rocks or in hollow trees, so if you got nothing like that you should get a beehive.

>>63953619
many of the fucked up carrot family varieties are like this as well, assorted hogweeds are easy enough to tell apart because of their size and leaves but many other deadly species are quite inconspicuous and look like edible carrot species to the untrained eye.

>>63949372
Princess Tree.

It's not dangerous in and of itself, but is intensely invasive, grows at an almost impossibly rapid rate, and cannot be killed once it has become established. Even if you burn it to the ground, it will just cause it to propagate underground through its roots and come back up as countless shoots that will grow into full trees in a few months. They can rapidly destroy any paved surface and will compromise building foundations and buried pipes.

>>63953725
That would be the Manchineel tree, I’m quite happy that I don’t live in the same hemisphere as it.

A fun guide

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jEReJGwJk2Q&pp=ygUXU3RvaWMgc3RpY2sgZWNvdGVycm9pc20%3D

>>63949011 (OP)
dont do it mang, they are really annoying to trim back and clear away the cuttings

>>63949011 (OP)
I have seriously thought before about fortifying my home with Gympie Gympie bushes

>>63953952
>bees don't just settle anywhere like wasps do
Wasps are pretty picky about where they nest as well. Each species has its own preference about height, many like to build under natural overhangs or in semi-protected areas, others are full-on cavity nesters and use things like old rodent burrows, hollow trees, buildings, etc. That species >>63953539 posted is a real bastard, having a combination of one of the worst insect stings in the world while also being extremely aggressive and having a pretty big colony size, but as I understand it they prefer to nest very high in trees making them not so good for protecting against ground-level threats. Some honeybees, hornets of nearly any species, and yellowjackets are all excellent if you can get them to nest in the right places, mainly because of their massive numbers, but they generally aren't all that aggressive if their nest is not disturbed. The stuff with the really nasty stings like P. Carnifex, Tarantula hawks, etc, tend to be either solitary or form small colonies and are not particularly aggressive.

How has no one mentioned blackberry bushes? They are thorny as a mothefucker and ultra resilient. They are virtually an invasive plant in my backyard because the birds eat all the goddamn berries and sprinkle them all over the yard when they shit. It's like if mint grew berries and had thorns.

>>63956821
Blackberries, raspberries, etc, are awesome because they are tasty. But other plants make nastier thorny hedges like trifoliate orange (especially the "flying dragon" variety). Barberry is good too, blackthorn....

>>63949011 (OP)
I don't know anything about poison ivy other then how to spot it and where it grows near where i live, hypothetically if somebody with waders and gloves wanted to reclaim their favorite fishing spot by the riverbank from the homeless who have increased drastically in number since coronavirus & leave needles all over the place what would be the best way to extract the seeds from the already grown bushes in the nearby forest?

>>63956821
>>63956846
The fanleaf hawthorn makes a pretty decent fence, too. It can be planted densely enough that the branches tangle together, making it quite difficult to force out of the way, and they're covered with inch-long thorns so anyone attempting that is likely to end up cursing, screaming and/or injured.
It's pretty common in Northern Europe, but I think the fence variant was originally imported from Ontario. Doesn't mind the cold at all, grows at least to a man's height up to Lapland. It can die if voles gnaw the roots, though.

>>63957233
The thorns look like this. They go through thick winter coats.

Some species of Smilax can be real bastards.

Zanthoxylum nitidum, aka shiny-leaf prickly ash

Rattan. There are a lot of palm species that would be very good for defensive plantings

Add some sandbox trees for extra style.

>>63957490
>>63953417
I would seriously plant one of those on my property, I think they're really cool. Alas it has to be grown in a very hot climate, it can't survive any sort of cold at all.

>>63955784
Anon for the love of God do not do that, the silica hair can get carried on the wind and if your downwind of it you will get fucked. I’ve suffered from the Gympie Gympie’s less aggro cousin by being downwind of it and that sucked as it is, GG is ten times worse and it will affect you for months.

>>63958106
Ah good, somebody who knows the evil

if you're in the right climate for rattan, you should be planting bougainvillea hedges
the thorns are inch-long, razor-pointed and iron-hard

You can gain immunity to poison ivy. I had it very bad once but afterwards it never affected me. Used to chop 4" thick vines at the base of trees and had juicy chunks of the wood fly into my eyes, never once irritated me.

>>63949280
>not smoking barszcz sosnowskiego
ngmi

you're making me hate nature lads

>>63964634
At least you'll be doing it for a good reason.
Not all plants want to kill you, but the ones that do definitely can do it in a fucked up way.
And unlike flytraps and other carnivorous plants who do it to sustain themselves, most of the stuff itt do it because they're niggers of the plant life.

>>63964634
>making me hate nature
you should be loving nature instead pussy.
there is no military industrial complex more advanced or artistic with it's chemical warfare than plants and fungi.

>>63949011 (OP)
Scrape the needles off gimpy gimpy plants, and disperse them over enemy positions.

>>63949011 (OP)
Scrape the needles off gimpy gimpy plants, and disperse them over enemy positions.

>>63949011 (OP)
why use plant when drones mogs

>>63964790
Plant beats drone.
If you spot a drone heading your way -- FPV or ordnance-dropper -- the best thing to do is take cover in bushes or shrubbery. They'll have trouble following, and shrubbery can even disable and entangle them.
Also, in the future, infantry will only be able to operate under tree cover. (Or from within urban environments or underground.) Open areas will be off-limits.

>>63964727
What the hell is that thing? A stinging nettle on steroids?

>>63949215
What's the series, apothecary diaries?

>>63958640
I iz Queenslander, I know the horror and the pain

>>63967147
yes
>Nekokurage manga adaptation