Thread 63961825 - /k/ [Archived: 440 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/9/2025, 10:50:37 PM No.63961825
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Do stealth aircraft still need EW cover in order to perform SEAD & DEAD or could they operate without It?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:03:49 PM No.63961878
they can operate without it but it's good if they have it
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:05:34 PM No.63961884
chinkcope
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Let's consult the graph:
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:06:35 PM No.63961887
crying ching
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>>63961884
Sorry, wrong picture
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:25:03 PM No.63961962
>>63961825 (OP)
They need even more because they can't use their radars while in stealth mode; otherwise they would be detected by enemy rwr.

Essentially awacs uses their own radar to tell them the position of the enemy via directed datalinks, they move in position to destroy the targets, they use their own datalink to launch fox 3 missiles, ideally the enemy only detects the awacs radar that's too far to be hit and the missile's radar, that's too close to evade.
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:30:01 PM No.63961984
>>63961962
LPI function already has a robust counter?
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Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:57:48 PM No.63962073
>>63961984
LPI function is precisely about working in passive mode as much as possible; at most, using active scanning on irregular intervals to keep the rwr from picking it up as enemy radar is possible and useful, but can't give an up to date picture.

The main tactic if you are not using awacs is to have the stealth fighters work as a team, one actively scanning for situational awareness while also serving as bait, ready to go dark if attacked while the others counter.
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 5:57:29 AM No.63963257
>>63962073
that's too extreme, you just have to reduce power and make the operation as random as possible, the receivers will eventually run into physical limitations and your radar won't because the signals aren't random from your point of view so you have processing gain
RWRs are not magic, you can't put tens of millions of RF test gear in your jet like you do in large ELINT planes
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:09:47 AM No.63963301
>>63961825 (OP)
Already covered. But the F-22s & F-35s doing escort duty for the B-2, screening ahead demonstrates the concept. "Loyal Wingman" drone decoys (like the less than stealthy ones claimed as plane kills in the Pakistan-India border happening) may make it more survivable to go more raw on the EWS side of things in the future.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:55:03 AM No.63963619
>>63961825 (OP)
Reminder that russia Su-30 literally fried Italy's F-35 electronics that the pilot had to force reboot before flying back
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:59:34 AM No.63963625
>>63963619
>literally fried
>had to reboot
Which was it? Also I'm now demoralised that Russia's EW is so advanced that it vaporises F35s unsophisticated but also weak and decadent electronics.
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 7:59:45 AM No.63963626
>>63961825 (OP)
keeping busy tonight chinkspammer?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:00:11 AM No.63963628
>>63963619
If that were true how come Russia hasn't been able to SEAD and DEAD Ukrainian air defenses for 3 years?
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 8:01:48 AM No.63963631
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>>63963619
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 9:54:17 AM No.63963802
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>>63963619
you know that came from a russian tabloid that publishes shit about aliens on the regular yeah?
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Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:49:12 PM No.63964936
>>63963802
man, the Russians are fighting off the aliens as well as NATO at the same time? Holy shit they really are invincible
Anonymous
7/10/2025, 6:57:27 PM No.63964985
200 chinks died of lead poisoning because a school painted food with lead paint.