Behold the final form of the turtle tank!: https://x.com/Archer83Able/status/1943032495282278739?

it's like they don't have enough food to advance to imperial age

>>63961914 (OP)
If I saw this in 2021 I wouldn't have believed it was a moving vehicle.

>>63961914 (OP)
Thing is fucking massive

>>63961914 (OP)
this is the future of tanks.
EVERY modern tank's armor layout is intended primarily to protect against cannons and ATGMs hitting the front. problem is, drones can hit from ANY angle, including from behind, above and below. the next generation of tanks will need to account for this.

>>63962079
hard-kill APS system, either a 20-30mm proxy autocannon or a laser.

>furry tank
>porcupine tank
>The word porcupine comes from the Latin porcus 'pig' + spina 'spine, quill', from Old Italian porcospino, 'thorn-pig'.
>War pig
War pig bros, we are back
*releasing the flaming warpigs*

>>63961914 (OP)
Why is it not moving ?

>>63961914 (OP)
still waiting on them to weld a second tank on top of a working tank. there's plenty of spare empty hulls.

>>63961914 (OP)
What is actually under all that?

>>63961934
Their Korean flank civ fucked up their economy *hard*, so Putin keeps having to sling them food to keep them in the fight.

>>63962157
dont give them ideas!!!

philosopical question: does it still count as a turret toss if the second tank on the other gets lifted off in an explosion?

>>63962191
>dont give them ideas!!!
I'd bet that some handy Ivan been chipping away at this for months but he's forced to make mad max thunderdomes instead.

>>63962179
It's worse than that, Korea is undergoing a agricultural boom and Russia/Belarus ran out of potatoes.

>>63962191
Does Oryx count as one tank kill or two?

>>63961914 (OP)
This invincible device will surely usher in the end of warfare forevermore.

>>63962157
BMD on T-55 doko
CIWS on T-72 doko

>>63962178
>What is actually under all that?
T-72M allegedly.

>>63962783
There seems to be a distinct lack of a main gun.

What did they do, take one whose turret was screwed, strip out the barrel to give to a more functioning tank and turn it into a unarmed turtle?

>>63962079
there's already no shortage of ways to protect the sides, top and rear of a actual modern MBT from RPG-7 rounds. It helps actually having a MBT and not T-72 and T-72 derivatives as your tanks and dividing your force into cheap tank and more expensive but still cheap tank by design and doctrine.

>>63962841
>There seems to be a distinct lack of a main gun.
T-72B3M sorry. According to NOELReports.
Yeah, I don't see a gun either and I've seen other footage.

There's other footage from an fpv, low quality but a different angle.
https://t.me/officer_33/5833

It was notable because it has such a complete superstructure around it, plus the spikes and chains, and EW modules up top and mine rollers too.
And it was still killed.

It seems like Ukies hit it with a mix of wired and wireless drones and a mine.

>>63963198
It's hard to see if you pause the video but it's still visible behind the mesh.

>And it was still killed.
Drones are far more dangerous than guided munition, they're human-smart munition. And 1-1.5m of standoff is useless if the armor protecting the sides and engine is <50mm thick.

>>63963228
>It's hard to see if you pause the video but it's still visible behind the mesh
I saw that and decided that it's the support strut for the porch awning.
It's a very low confidence guess though.

>>63963246
>>63963228
Either way it can't actually function otherwise they would be using it as a tank instead of whatever this is supposed to be.

What will the American answer to drones be, if you guys are so smart?

>>63963316
A competent airforce

>>63961914 (OP)

>>63963316
>>63963346
>>63962084
>>63961934
https://www.twz.com/land/army-wants-new-armor-to-protect-from-overhead-drone-attacks-on-its-tracked-vehicles

>>63963354
Only a fool builds up on the first day.
Dugouts are easier and faster to construct and expand better.

>>63962079
What makes you think there aren't already easy answers to this?

Birdshot makes quick work of them. So does bolo shot. Directed energy pulses are the holy grail.

But even all that is easily defeated by drones: drones are disposable anyway. Doesn't matter if they can't survive the disruption of its flight path from lighting off a tandem charge warhead, and there's always bomblets from CBU-100s

>>63963369
>slat armor
>cope barn
Da, I see no difference, cumrag!

>>63963369
bro you gotta stop posting this. getting btfo in one thread was enough.
annoying fag

>>63963404
>>63963416

>>63963316
Active protection. Remote weapons stations. Electronic warfare systems on every vehicle. Combined arms tactics.
You know, things we currently have only better adapted to counter drones.

>>63963499
>81-шa oкpeмa aepoмoбiльнa бpигaдa
How will the US Army ever recover from whatever it is you thought you were proving with this image?

>>63961914 (OP)
Why not just make tank destroyers again?

>>63963499
Still slat armor, zister.

>>63963316
Cheaper tanks staffed by hindus

>>63962079
What if you have air superiority?

>>63964157
How does having air superiority prevent your troops and tanks from being blown up by FPV drones? It's the IED threat times 100x, because any dude with a backpack could be carrying a FPV that could wipe our an entire squad or a MBT at a moments notice

>>63961914 (OP)
Mad Max was prophecy.

>>63964208
you know I really think the theorized effectiveness of fpvs by nonstate actors is overblown. Both sides of the war in Ukraine are using them by the boatload to achieve their results. IEDs do have some advantages over drones, namely the size of the payload. If drones were ready so cheap and effective there would be far more footage of their use in Gaza. Ukraine and Russia have used them so effectively because they produce tons of them. Not to say that even in small quantities they can’t be effective, these things are going to terrorize 3rd and 4th string militaries. Cheap drones are easy to jam and as they become more sophisticated and capable they become more expensive, still cost efficient but the ratio decreases.

>>63962079
It's called an APS retard-chama, Iron Fist, Trophy, AMAP-ADS etc are already proven to destroy FPVs without issue. FPVs only made legacy tanks slightly more obsolete, not the tank as a concept. If anything the FPV drone only gave militaries a firm kick in the balls that they can't keep skimping out on procuring APS systems for their tanks like they have been for the last decade.

>>63963499
Haha, I looked at that and thought it looked pretty professional and effective for a cope cage.
Then I realised it was a Stryker.

>>63962079
God damn I am enjoying the
>b-but evey one else is a shit as we are
cope.

>>63961955
well, it isn't moving

WAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!

>>63962157
I dream of a Ratte-style monster using T-72s as ERA bricks

We destroyed it.
It took 60 drones.
So this defense basically works.
https://x.com/fortifiedtaras/status/1943367195834114434
When I say WE, I mean of course - the UKRAINE DEFENSE FORCES that protect me from the ziggers bulk.

>>63966773
Poor showing and wasted resources. It was strategically and operationally harmless, it was better left alive as a propaganda exercise and a way to train your troops on what not to do.

>60 drones
Use those on Koksans and the Norks massing as part of the Russian summer offensive reserve you fucking idiots.

Note: I am fully aware that i am responding to Vatnik propaganda. They are that dumb.

>>63966773
>We destroyed it.
>It took 60 drones.
I wonder if a thermite charge dropped on top would have eaten through and exposed the inner tank body?

>>63967421
>Russian summer offensive
Will you spastic retards ever get tired of this meme?

The final form of the tank is one where the turret can't move.

>>63966773
> So this defense basically works.
Question is how many drones took to disable it. If less than 10 then it didn’t mean much because normal tank takes 10 drones on average

>>63968311
buddy, can't you read?

>>63968315
Destroying and disabling are two different things, if the tank cannot perform its tasks anymore then it doesn’t matter if it took 50 more fpv drones to finish it off.

Are we now pretending tanks are less valuable than 60 suicide drones?

>>63968261
I should have said 'alleged' summer offensive.

If you think i'm a pro Russian Vatnik you are one of the most stupid /pol/ tourists who showed up in the last half hour.

>bulk sides and top
>increase weight, decrease speed & spatial awareness
>underside is just as was
>unknowingly eat the T62 just dropped in front of you
>overpressure kills even more pidors in storage
>all shit on you turns to shrapnel for nearby vehicles

>>63961914 (OP)
will they form a Testudo next?

>>63962079
>this is the future of tanks.
But zisturs why we doesn't see it on the Ukrainian side?

>>63961934
They're unable to research the crucial Microelectronics Mass Production prerequisite tech everyone else got 20 years ago, mainly because of the crazy negative modifiers from the Oligarch spirit

Devs need to patch this to make Russia at all viable in multiplayer

>>63967421
>It was strategically and operationally harmless
Tell me you know nothing about the battlefield without saying you know nothing about the battlefield

>wasted resources
60 drones are peanuts

>>63968293
swedish win

>>63964255
>cannibalistic descendants of the remnants of VEH DEH VEH in post apoc australia
>still cover their rides in spikes despite drones being long extinct
>do it out of ritualistic habits from stories passed down via oral (and anal) tradition from the original vatniks
Its uncanny how well it fits

>>63964290
Both sides do it since neither has air superiority in this conventional war. With it one side could systematically dismantle the others C&C znd logistics until the fronts start moving again.

In insurgency stuff, drones main advantage is to be observers for the various sides as situational awarness is king in small arms infantry tactics

>>63963369
a retarded journalist not knowing the difference between a cope cage and slat armor doesnt make the russian smekalka amor retardation any less retarded

>>63968688
>60 drones are peanuts
They're cheaper than an sdb and a few hours of flight but it's still $30k or so and worse, up to 59 targets unFPVed.
A dumb arty shell would be somewhat cheaper.
Though I think the easiest is a thermite charge to put a hole in the roof and then drop in a satchel charge.

>>63968631
>>unknowingly eat the T62 just dropped in front of you
Hence the trawls, it just broke a track or something.

The mine achieved a mobility kill, that's what initially stopped it after a couple of wireless FPVs and one wired FPV didn't do much.

>>63968311
>Question is how many drones took to disable it
2 RF drones, 1 FO drone. No effect.
Then a mine stopped it and I think it was abandoned.

>>63963198
Supposedly it took 60+ drones to stop it

>>63966773
Is it no longer armed with ammo or does all that armor actually work?

>>63961914 (OP)
Can't they just shoot the incoming drones with machine guns like what the US Army is teaching Abrams tankers now?

>>63971656
>Supposedly it took 60+ drones to stop it
No, it took one mine to stop it after 3 FPVs failed.
It (allegedly) took another 60ish FPVs to kill it.

>>63961914 (OP)
This is nice and thank you for posting, but it is not the final form.
I don't see any lit sparklers anywhere.
I don't see any human shit smeared on it.
I don't see any mirrors mounted.
I don't see any garbage piled on top to disguise it as a garbage pile.

Lots of room for improvement.

>>63963228
I'm no military man but uh, what if they have to shoot literally anywhere but straight ahead? Do they have to turn the entire tank