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Anonymous No.63968177 [Report] >>63970079 >>63970305 >>63971094 >>63971138 >>63971155 >>63971278 >>63971319 >>63971556 >>63971873 >>63971915 >>63975450 >>63976644 >>63976719 >>63979950 >>63986202 >>63989812 >>63998704 >>64001041
who currently makes the best lever actrions?
Anonymous No.63968185 [Report] >>63968189
Me.
Anonymous No.63968189 [Report] >>63968194
>>63968185
do you have one that's stainless, 44 mag, 16 inch and walnut?
Anonymous No.63968194 [Report]
>>63968189
yeah
Anonymous No.63970079 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
Kinda want to know this too
>t. the guy who makes that one faggot seethe by making lever gun threads
Anonymous No.63970305 [Report] >>63970339 >>63970606 >>63971110 >>63971873 >>63989540
>>63968177 (OP)
it's still winchester (miroku)
Anonymous No.63970339 [Report] >>63970359
>>63970305
>rebounding hammer
>tang safety
Mechanically they're fine, but if someone was seriously looking for the best, then the late 70's and mid 80's Browning Miroku's are the finest.
Anonymous No.63970359 [Report] >>63970423 >>63970436 >>63971155 >>63971873
>>63970339
your other options are cross bolt safety, bolt safety, or a henry (lol). while i disagree with the safety systems and all of my winchesters are pre safety, they are still the best guns
Anonymous No.63970423 [Report] >>63971225
>>63970359
The Italians have no safety to speak of.
Anonymous No.63970436 [Report] >>63971050 >>63976644
>>63970359
Also trust me, the early-mid 80's Miroku 92s and 86s were better than any "pre-64".
A shame the 357 B92s are so hard to find/expensive.
Anonymous No.63970606 [Report] >>63970879 >>63971046 >>63975459 >>63982827 >>63990068
>>63970305
this? can you put a scope on it
Anonymous No.63970879 [Report]
>>63970606
check the discription. Most Miroku made rifles are drilled and tapped to take a scope. It should say on winchester's site
Anonymous No.63971046 [Report] >>63971233
>>63970606
yes they make receiver brackets. idk why you would want to tho
Anonymous No.63971050 [Report]
>>63970436
i had a 44 mag b92 and it shot sub moa with wwb. i really wish i didnt have to sell it but all my other lever guns are family heirlooms
Anonymous No.63971094 [Report] >>63971122 >>63971287 >>63991440
>>63968177 (OP)
big horn armory in 500 S+W
Anonymous No.63971110 [Report] >>63971270 >>63990092 >>63990224 >>63994395
>>63970305
does miroku also make the model 70? Was thinking about a super-grade but unsure of the quality of them anymore.
Anonymous No.63971122 [Report] >>63971193
>>63971094
They are so exceptionally expensive, you can find vids online of people getting theirs delivered and having problems ranging from feeding(one guy had recieved his with the wrong carrier) to just being stiff.
Shouldn't happen at that price point. The only other critique I have is they're big, like basically 1886 size.
Anonymous No.63971138 [Report] >>63971295 >>63972067
>>63968177 (OP)
>Not getting an 11.5 PSA AR
Holy newfag batman!
Anonymous No.63971155 [Report] >>63971287
>>63968177 (OP)
big horn.

>>63970359
>your other options are cross bolt safety, bolt safety, or a henry
No, big horn. You don't need to reward companies who fuck their guns up because some lawyers invented some hypothetical liability with zero statutory or case law rationale. The same law firms which tell gun companies they MUST do these things fold like paper at the sight of every bullshit suit.

Clinton's over, the PLCAA exists, there's literally no excuse for all the slop brands to put off fixing their fucking guns.
Anonymous No.63971193 [Report] >>63971568
>>63971122
Valid criticism, goes to show how horribly the lever action market lacks competition. There are no really good options.
Anonymous No.63971225 [Report]
>>63970423
didn't realize sig was italian
Anonymous No.63971233 [Report] >>63971558
>>63971046
it makes even less sense because its .38-55 so unless he is black powder hunting, why?
Anonymous No.63971270 [Report]
>>63971110
portugese shit
https://www.winchesterguns.com/support/faq/manufacture-location.html
Anonymous No.63971278 [Report] >>63971295 >>63972079
>>63968177 (OP)
>who currently makes the best lever actrions?
Rossi in Brazil makes the best model 92s in the world.

The older ones from the 1990s-2000s were really great.

Think they even made a .454 Cassull version, and maybe a .460?


Uberti/Cimmaron makes the best Henry (original real Henry/Volcanic style) and best 1873s.

Japan makes the best 94s, though Turkey will be making some good ones that will rival or beat them.

Marlin 336 style the best are Henry American arms or Ruger now.
Anonymous No.63971287 [Report] >>63971306
>>63971155
>>63971094
Does big horn make guns in nonretard calibers?
Anonymous No.63971295 [Report] >>63971317
>>63971138
I already have an AR
>>63971278
>rossi
lmao
>1892s
also lmao
>turkshit
>good
lmao
Anonymous No.63971306 [Report] >>63971335
>>63971287
45 Colt, but if you're getting that you might as well get the 454 Casull model. The 460S+W will also shoot 45LC but I think it has issues feeding them.
Anonymous No.63971317 [Report] >>63971335
>>63971295
If you know you know. You don't know.
You are book of faces gunsmart and never even done any CAS larping obviously. kek
Anonymous No.63971319 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
Marlin (Ruger)
S&W
Anonymous No.63971335 [Report] >>63971377 >>63971549 >>63971873
>>63971306
so like only retard calibers
>>63971317
>turkish and brazilian guns
>good
Anonymous No.63971377 [Report] >>63971402 >>63971432 >>63975466
>>63971335
>so like only retard calibers
If you want something significantly weaker, you can buy lever actions in .429 Remington Special Long from other companies.

454 is perhaps the most versatile straight-wall there is for big game though. So if you want one high-end rifle to do it all, that would be the cartridge to choose.
Anonymous No.63971402 [Report]
>>63971377
It's definitely underrated. Can be reloaded to powder puff 250 grain 750fps loads to full on monster loads.
Anonymous No.63971432 [Report] >>63971471
>>63971377
yeah, sounds like you work for them with how you are trying to shill retard calibers
Anonymous No.63971471 [Report] >>63971509
>>63971432
I work for Big 454 Casull
Anonymous No.63971509 [Report]
>>63971471
no I mean big horn
Anonymous No.63971549 [Report]
>>63971335
Taurus revolvers are pretty good, better than some americans ones.
Anonymous No.63971556 [Report] >>63971574
>>63968177 (OP)
Henry to be desu
Anonymous No.63971558 [Report] >>63971574
>>63971233
what do you mean? Scope bad??
Anonymous No.63971568 [Report] >>63971617
>>63971193
miroku?
Anonymous No.63971574 [Report] >>63971629
>>63971558
it's weird to go buy a gun made for a black powder round like the .38-55 and slap a scope on it. It would be less weird for a .30-30
>>63971556
>336 action
Anonymous No.63971582 [Report] >>63971597 >>63971748 >>63979980 >>63981584
An actually good question

Best caliber for lever actions? .357, .44 or .40-70govt?
Anonymous No.63971597 [Report]
>>63971582
.45-70 is a stupid meme round
99% of people who buy .357 mag guns are doing it to cowboy larp.
.44 mag, .30-30 and .35 rem are the common hunting rounds
Anonymous No.63971617 [Report] >>63971661
>>63971568
If you want a repro and don't mind compromises sure, personally I hate straight grips and buckhorn sights.

If Miroku came out with something based on the model 65 I'd order one in a heartbeat.
Anonymous No.63971629 [Report] >>63971688
>>63971574
Best action of all time
Anonymous No.63971661 [Report]
>>63971617
I want pic related, but with a color case hardened receiver and a half octagonal barrel
Anonymous No.63971688 [Report]
>>63971629
Simplest, but the 86 is a relative work of art.
Anonymous No.63971748 [Report]
>>63971582
444 marlin
Anonymous No.63971752 [Report] >>63971898 >>63971910 >>63972029 >>63989732
…. It’s slowly growing on me…. 300 blackout lever action that takes mags and comes threaded for a suppressor….
Anonymous No.63971873 [Report] >>63971910
>>63968177 (OP)
For what
>>63970305
>>63970359
Their safety is better but also impossible to delete. The crossbolt on Marlins & clones is easily fixed.
>>63971335
I have a newer Rossi 92 that I've been surprised by. It has none of the unfinished surfaces or chatter that the older guns had. It's my bear blaster right now.
Anonymous No.63971898 [Report] >>63972003
>>63971752
Just bought one of these in 300blk. Comes in to the FFL on Tuesday. Already found a shop to relocate the sight, chop the barrel, and rethread it for $250 shipped, to SBR and pair with my Sandman S. It's been out for about a year now so there's a good amount of videos showing a good track record so far, Micah seemed to really like it.
Anonymous No.63971910 [Report]
>>63971752
looks ugly
>>63971873
>rossi
>92 action
meh
Anonymous No.63971915 [Report] >>63971920 >>63971930 >>63971954
>>63968177 (OP)
Marlin Rugers are the best at the moment. Love my 1894 Classic .44 mag.
Anonymous No.63971920 [Report]
>>63971915
This is nice.
Anonymous No.63971930 [Report] >>63972140
>>63971915
the marlin 1894 action looks so much better than the 336 action
Anonymous No.63971954 [Report]
>>63971915
They're nice.
Ruger was a little mum as to whether they fixed the carrier that liked to get peened causing the "Marlin Jam".
Anonymous No.63972003 [Report]
>>63971898
Awesome anon. Post some range pics if you get the chance. Honestly I think it’s a pretty cool idea.. and kinda neat to see a new idea tried. Aesthetically I get it’s not for everyone. But as a suppressor host in 300 blk I think it makes more sense in some ways than an AR platform. Especially if your gonna experiment with reloading.. at a bare minimum it’s nice to not see just another carbon copy, or “take existing lever gun, make it tactical”
Anonymous No.63972029 [Report]
>>63971752
>Tfw glorified 30-30 with spritzer bullets in a magazine is now commonplace
Anonymous No.63972067 [Report]
>>63971138
What's wrong with owning both? Also if OP is looking to buy a niche firearm then he likely already has a decent AR or lives in a anti funs state where just getting a lever gat and getting good with that is less of a legal headache. Either that or while the state he may live in is actually quite friendly 2A wise local hunting ground laws may very well still make a good lever action a worth wild investment.

I dunno why you frog posters are so unimaginative sometimes.
Anonymous No.63972079 [Report]
>>63971278
>Rossi in Brazil makes the best model 92s in the world.
Rossi hasn't existed in decades. It's all Taurus-made, anon.
Anonymous No.63972140 [Report] >>63972155
>>63971930
It's sex, I cant go back to any other.
Anonymous No.63972155 [Report] >>63973840
>>63972140
I'd say
Winchester 1873 > Marlin 1894 > Winchester 1895 > Winchester 1894
of guns currently being made. I'd probably throw the 39a above the 1895 if they still made that
Anonymous No.63973831 [Report] >>63974022
Luv me 1895. Remington fucked them all up many moons ago but the quality has come back up in recent years.
Anonymous No.63973840 [Report] >>63974022 >>63991918
>>63972155
How many of these do own? Or are you just talking out your ass to feel important?
Anonymous No.63974022 [Report] >>63974188 >>63974238 >>63974319
>>63973840
one, now keep crying that someone had an opinion of receiver aesthetics, homo
>>63973831
>45-70
lol meme round
Anonymous No.63974072 [Report] >>63974323 >>63988361 >>63988479
>new
What if I want an OLD lever action? Something classic, with color case hardening?
Anonymous No.63974188 [Report]
>>63974022
>lol meme round
Yes, and?
Anonymous No.63974238 [Report] >>63975480
>>63974022
45-70 is still the rule of cool. Loading those 325gr at full length (2.650") with a very healthy dose of H4198 allows for an easy 2350fps(+/-20) from my 26". These are really quite soft bullets, so it would be explosive within 75 yards.
Not that I'm taking any 200 yard shots, but zeroing at 150 yards makes 200 yards and in is very realistic.
It will do what pistol cartridges won't and deliver far more power than 30-30 across its entire trajectory, but that doesn't mean anyone needs it.
Anonymous No.63974319 [Report] >>63974345
>>63974022
>asthetics =/= tactical advantage
Lol. Ok, Tonto. Get back to your rez, loser.
Anonymous No.63974323 [Report]
>>63974072
Gun show.
Anonymous No.63974345 [Report] >>63974480
>>63974319
I'm white, you gay retard. no one is buying lever guns for muh tactical advantage in 2025. People are buying them literally for aesthetic and nothing else. even hunters who chose them are choosing them for aesthetic and nothing else.
keep being gay, retarded and shilling big cuck armory
Anonymous No.63974480 [Report] >>63974490
>>63974345
>shilling big cuck armory
Try speaking Nglish, Chief Wannabe.
Anonymous No.63974490 [Report] >>63974664
>>63974480
having trouble there, retardo?
>tactical advantage of a lever gun
you sound like a fucking bong
Anonymous No.63974664 [Report] >>63974719
>>63974490
>he votes for the queen
You be gay as hell, homo.
Anonymous No.63974719 [Report] >>63975040
>>63974664
we don't sign our posts here. I'm American, you gay retard. Anyone buying a lever gun in current year is doing it because they like the aesthetic, especially because (((bolt actions))) will do just as good hunting and are way cheaper and any semi auto will mog it when it comes to self defense
Anonymous No.63975040 [Report] >>63975081
>>63974719
>Anyone buying a lever gun in current year is doing it because they like the aesthetic
It's very reassuring that you speak for everyone. I feel better already..
Anonymous No.63975081 [Report] >>63975181
>>63975040
I agree, pic related looks like ass, but whoever bought it bought it because he or she liked the aesthetic.
Lever guns really don't do anything better than bolt actions or semi autos do. They are just very aesthetic so people buy them for fun or hunting
Anonymous No.63975181 [Report] >>63975200
>>63975081
>or she
How many fucking redditors do we have here?
Anonymous No.63975200 [Report]
>>63975181
I like saying he or she because it pisses off troons. Just like I say latinxes and latinas
Anonymous No.63975450 [Report] >>63979593
>>63968177 (OP)
What do you call the little sling mount on the stock? I'm trying to get a sling but one side is that, the other is a standard webbing slot.
Anonymous No.63975459 [Report] >>63975498
>>63970606
>Scope on a model 94
Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.63975466 [Report] >>63975495 >>63975645
>>63971377
If I wanted .454 why wouldn't I buy .460?
Anonymous No.63975480 [Report]
>>63974238
45-70 if you reload > 45-70 if you only buy factory ammo….
Anonymous No.63975495 [Report]
>>63975466
Not a lot of options other than bighorn armory for 460 in a lever…. You can get a Rossi in 454 casull for sub 1k$. At least a third of the price..
Anonymous No.63975498 [Report] >>63975621
>>63975459
??? do you just hate scopes?
Anonymous No.63975621 [Report] >>63986475
>>63975498
Meh. Nta, but I'm about 50/50 on scoping levers. Any model lever. Some are just asking for a scope and some are abominations scoped. Straight vs. pistol grip stocks are usually the dominant factor, but not only consideration. Some are begging for a receiver sight, some a ghost ring, some a laserbeam with turbopower cup holders and solar powered brow fan. Mostly not, tho.
Anonymous No.63975645 [Report]
>>63975466
The guns chambered in 460 are really big by comparison to 454, which fits in 44 Mag -sized platforms.
Anonymous No.63976644 [Report] >>63977288 >>63977658 >>63977817
>>63968177 (OP)
Uberti and Chiappa make the best lever guns hands down currently, both companies have been making them for 50 years+ now. Mirokus are okay, Marlin seems to finally be on the way up. Rossis are okay for a first lever if you know how to smooth parts out and are okay with possibly getting a bad one. The good ones are stupid reliable.

>>63970436
t. Doesn't own a pre-64.

The really good Winchesters are Pre WWI (1914) with some exceptions for mid/late/post WWI (1925ish) My favorite and smoothest rifle is a 1895 built Win 1894 in 30wcf. Smoother than my Italian/Winchester 66's, 73's, 76's, 86's, 92's, 94's/55's, 95's, Marlin 1894, every (((New))) Henry I've handled, Rossi r92/r95 etc.
Anonymous No.63976719 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
currently probably marlin now that ruger bought them, henrys look pretty but dont know about actual longevity
i'd say mid 70s winchester was probably peak lever
Anonymous No.63977278 [Report]
winchester 130 years ago
Anonymous No.63977288 [Report]
>>63976644
based chiappa enjoyer
Anonymous No.63977658 [Report] >>63978412
>>63976644
I don't even have to wonder whether or not you own a mid-80s Miroku Browning.
You don't, late model Winchesters can't hold a candle.
Anonymous No.63977817 [Report] >>63977860 >>63978412
>>63976644
>Chiappa make the best lever guns
>Mirokus are okay
Whoa.
Anonymous No.63977860 [Report]
>>63977817
Everyone loves Mirokus but the safeties just look so out of place. Sort of ruins it for me
Anonymous No.63978412 [Report] >>63979777 >>63979852 >>63980257
>>63977658

Ive handled over 700 lever guns this year alone. Including plenty of "early" miroku guns. You probably should go back to the first grade and learn how to read though before you participate in this thread as you dont seem to understand english so well. Theres some keywords you are missing in the OP.

>>63977817
Mirokus have the worst safeties. Actions are decent out of the box, wood is great quality. But if you have shit safeties that ruin the gun than Im not buying the gun period. If they fixed their safeties than Id be more than happy to own one in my collection. But again, why go with a winchester when all the modification parts are made for Uberti/Chiappa. Everything you could want to do to slick up the gun is for Uberti/Chiappa. Theres zero reason to ever go winchester besides having a false name on the gun. Even than, Cimarron has better closer to original markings than the Mirokus. Again, theres absolutely zero reason to go with a Miroku.
Anonymous No.63979593 [Report]
>>63975450
and uncle mike's style swivel?
why the fuck "uncle mike" is like the generic term for a swivel is beyond me, but that's what the company is called
Anonymous No.63979777 [Report]
>>63978412
>Mirokus have the worst safeties
how
Anonymous No.63979793 [Report] >>63980533
does anyone make front vertical grips like this for lever actions?
Anonymous No.63979852 [Report]
>>63978412
If you knew shit about the Chiappa 92s then you know they can be fiddly with ammo and the weird designs of the cartridge guides don't help.
Rossi 92s are unironically the most tolerant of cartridge dimensions and bullet shape.
Anonymous No.63979950 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
Gforce
Anonymous No.63979980 [Report] >>63989748
>>63971582
Depends on what you want it for.
I'd say if you want to pair it with a revolver, go .357. 44 is valid for this reason too, but fairly unweildly for most people. While I know of at least one company that makes a 45-70 revolver, nobody is getting the 45-70 revolver/lever combo for ammo matching/economic reasons. They're doing it for memes or because they're a Shadowrun Troll.

For hunting?
Depends on what you're hunting. .357 will take most medium game in North America. I wouldn't use it for Elk or Brown bear or Bison or Moose, or anything of a similar size. 44 will kill all those things, but shot placement is going to be very important. 45-70 will do a better job than 44, but unless you're handloading that shit is expensive. None of them are really any good for reaching out past 200 yards in a lever action. The heavy rounds that are typical of 44 and 45 will do better in dense brush at close ranges.

Capacity is an issue to consider. .357 and .44 will typically get 10 rounds in the tube. 45-70 will get you half that. They'll all get an extra +1 in the chamber.

Home defense? .357. .44magnum and 45-70 out of a lever action are absolutely overkill for 2 legged varmints. .357 also allows you to use .38 special, which has the benefit of being significantly cheaper. .44 mag lets you use .44 special, but there's no real benefit there. I'm not sure if 45-70 is compatible with any other caliber in a lever gun.

The real answer though is 30-30.
Anonymous No.63980257 [Report]
>>63978412
>Ive handled over 700 lever guns this year alone.
>my name is Mr. Big Pants
Well, hello Mr Big Pants!
Anonymous No.63980533 [Report]
>>63979793
why?
Anonymous No.63981584 [Report]
>>63971582
Of the ones you mentioned 44 is the best.

"best"? If I could have a wishlist lever rifle in any chambering at all, and have the components sized for that cartridge (action length, mag tube diameter, etc.), it would unironically be 45acp, and the barrel would be 10-12".

And I'm not saying that out of some fantasy rifle/handgun "pairing" where they share ammo, I think that's retarded and confers no actual benefit. I want a 45acp lever action because the cartridge dimensions compliment both the tube-fed lever mechanism, and the best uses for a lever action rifle. Also .45 can be loaded so piss-hot (especially 450smc brass with hard rifle primers) that you'll exceed the practical limits of blowback semi-autos before you split cases.
Anonymous No.63982827 [Report] >>63984098
>>63970606
Yeah that's the angle eject. Specifically redesigned to take a scope. To scope the old top eject rifles you either had to offset it to the left or use a kind of scout mount on the barrel
Anonymous No.63984098 [Report]
>>63982827
idk if he realizes it, but it's a .38-55 and not a .30-30 in the pic
Anonymous No.63985259 [Report]
any opinions on fightlite's lever lower?
.t owner of a .50 beo upper and a dumb idea
Anonymous No.63986202 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
Rossi if you're going to rice it
Winchester if you're going to leave it pure
Anonymous No.63986475 [Report] >>63986515 >>63986894
>>63975621
used to hate pistol grip til i bought my miroku 73 deluxe sporting. i like the aesthetics of straight but pistol just looks right and feels cozy on this
Anonymous No.63986515 [Report] >>63989225
>>63986475
Looks nice, does it have any retarded safeties?
Anonymous No.63986894 [Report] >>63988178 >>63989225 >>63989233
>>63986475
I always liked the half round/octogon bbls. Gorgeous. But as The Expurt" above has said "there is no reason to buy Miroku". Seems an even more stupid and over-reaching a comment now.
Anonymous No.63988178 [Report] >>63988327 >>63988458
>>63986894
You realise anyone whos making good clones makes a model with half round barrels right? Ofc you dont because you dont actually shoot lever guns or own them. Pistol grip, half round, checkering is pretty standard options that every cloner makes a model with those on it. What you dont see often from any of the cloners (Uberti/Chiappa/Miroku) is shotgun butts, button mags/half mags, 3 leaf action express sights, custom barrel lengths, or really any special order stuff. These companies just take certain features and call it a model. For instance finding a pistol grip without checkering is impossible from any of the cloners.

Miroku isnt a bad gun. The safety is shit and ruins the gun. The aftermarket support is shit and they are a one trick pony. Theres a reason the faggot CASS shooters all use Uberti 73s. Of all the clone rifles the only thing the Miroku does better than the italians is have the winchester name. Cimarron even has better and more authentic name/copyright placement than the mirokus.

Pictured is my 1899 Hlf Rnd, Shotgun butt, full mag and my run of the mill 1913 Carbine. Just because you dont like the facts doesnt make them any less true.
Anonymous No.63988327 [Report] >>63988542
>>63988178
>I really enjoy loose-toleranced italian leverguns where the action has tons of play in all directions and the bolt can rattle in the reciever(Chiappas are really guilty)
>or Pedersoli where they use a bastardized 71 in their design and have to angle the fucking locking lugs because wops can't figure out how to time the action correctly
>at least it's smooth!
Miroku's also aren't using soft fucking steel for parts that should be hardened.
The late 70-mid80 Mirokus are bank vault tight compared to shitalian guns and used better quality steels.
Anonymous No.63988361 [Report]
>>63974072
Wait for the boomers to all die to access that dragon gold horde
Anonymous No.63988458 [Report] >>63988542 >>63988580
>>63988178
>Uberti/Chiappa/Miroku) is shotgun butts, button mags/half mags,
Uberti and cimmeron have button mags, though uberti only has it for the 1886 I think. cimmeron has it for one verson of the 1873 but it's not color case hardened. a bunch of companies have shotgun butts, but like you said, I can't say
>I want a 24 inch half octagonal barrel, color case hardened, button mag with a pistol grip and a curved buttplate
Anonymous No.63988479 [Report]
>>63974072
fuckin saw some of them going for $10,000-$24,000. shit's retarded. it's worse than the boomer tax on pump .22s and marlin 39as
Anonymous No.63988542 [Report] >>63988604 >>63988624
>>63988327
None of the italians use soft metal lol. They are so soft they made a 44mag toggle link 1873. Or maybe their baby rolling block that weighs 4.5lbs in 45-70. Yup you are right, its super soft metal!

Lol, you continually miss what the OP asked and keep giving shit advice and spouting off well documented and disproven myths. Again, Miroku makes good guns. But they have historically horrible mechanisms and no aftermarket support.

>>63988458
I always forget about the Uberti USA 1886 Hunter Lite. But I also am not a big fan of Uberti USA. But beyond that single model buttons mags arent offered, and theres no 3/4 mags. Got any links for rifles with the shotgun butt? The standard Uberti USA 86 comes with one but beyond that all the other "shotgun butts" are really just rubber padded butt stocks.

I would pay good money (double) if Cimarron offered special order options on their guns. Start with a basic rifle and option it how you want to. Maybe Ill call up Greg and see if theres any possibility of somerhing like that. I need to call him about a buntline in 357mag anyways.

Pic semi rel, 1899 as seen above and 1895 first year 30-30 take down 3 leaf action express sight
Anonymous No.63988580 [Report] >>63988881
>>63988458
Uberti's 1886 is a Pedersoli, one thing that's kind of obnoxious is figuring out who actually made a particular Italian gun.
Chiappa(Armi Sport) is the only Italian manufacturer of 1892 unless that changed in the last 4 years. They make their own 1886 which is mechanically the most period correct one excepting a few oddball changes and its general sloppiness.
Uberti makes their own 1873.
Cimmaron and Taylors both do a lot importing of Chiappa firearms.
Pietta and Uberti make their own revolvers.
Anonymous No.63988604 [Report] >>63988881
>>63988542
>Got any links for rifles with the shotgun butt?
doesn't shotgun butt just mean flat bluttplate?
Anonymous No.63988624 [Report] >>63988634 >>63988652 >>63988881
>>63988542
The Uberti 44 Mag is using beefed up toggle links. You can still documented instances of people feeding them something that peens or bends them.
You profess to know so much, but demonstrate you know so little about what's inside. I don't think you've ever opened up any of these guns to have s concept of what I'm talking about.

Here's what I mean when I say the Chiappa has just bizarre design changes, pic is a large cartridge guide for the left side of the reciever. The cartridge stop is at the end of it. It has a straight angle to guide the cartridge up the carrier and into the chamber as it's pushed by the ejector in the bolt face.
Anonymous No.63988634 [Report] >>63988657
>>63988624
pic
Anonymous No.63988639 [Report] >>63988663 >>63990372
Does anyone still make quality levegats with magazines like this?
Anonymous No.63988642 [Report] >>63988881
getting some mixed responses here, seems like no one can decide who makes the best ones
Anonymous No.63988652 [Report]
>>63988624
Taylors had a 1886/71 in .30-30 with a button mag, but the stock was synthetic so it looks gay. (also not sure if it was a big receiver 1886 that was chambered for .30-30 which would be retarded)
Anonymous No.63988657 [Report]
>>63988634
Of course finding a picture of Chiappa's cartridge guide hand is impossible, but the Chiappa has a really odd rounded slope on its cartridge guide instead of the straight angle which means the rear of the cartridge comes up slower and causes bullets that aren't ideally shaped to have feeding problems.
Anonymous No.63988663 [Report]
>>63988639
winchester/miroku still makes 1895s, but I think they are only in .30-06, .30-40 and .405 win or something and you can't shoot spicy .30-06 in them and they might have extra safeties
Anonymous No.63988679 [Report] >>63988808 >>63988887 >>63991118
Speaking of levers, how the FUCK do you use the buckhorn sights on a Henry big boy? I'm tempted to remove them and use a peep sight instead.
Anonymous No.63988808 [Report]
>>63988679
just get skinners. my only lever gun is a henry goldenboy h004 and I had the receiver cover drilled and tapped and put skinner sights on and have a section of weaver bolted in the factory barrel holes with a QD red dot. You are supposed to put the bead in the little U or V above the white diamond.
The other option, which is based as fuck, is turnbull restoration makes red dot mounts that mount to the factory dove tail that's holding your rear sight in place
Anonymous No.63988881 [Report] >>63988932 >>63988938
>>63988604
Yes but no. The Carbines are also "flat buttplates" The shotgun buttstock is a specific design. Like I said they maie tons with rubber buttpads that look like shotgun buttplates but just because its flat doesnt make it a shotgun butt.

>>63988624
Of course its using beefed up toggle links, you cant shoot a 44mag through a syandard 73 lol. And its not just toggle links. Its a beefed up breach block, pins and the whole mechanism. Not just the toggle links like you insinuate. Of course theres people who shoot bubba loaded 44mags that bend the links, breaking the center pin. Same thing happens with every gun. Some jackass builds way too hot of loads and destroys the guns. Next youll say the sky is blue.

Im not saying Chiappa makes perfect guns. They definitely do funky and retarded shit. But tjeir after market support is better, their guns work just as well as the winchester 92s (atleast from the sample size of a little over a dozen I have shot/own) and dont have retarded safeties.

Its funny you think I never opened up any of my guns, but than dont even know all the hardened parts in the 44mag 73s that you claim to know about. Theres a few parts I left out that have also been ipgraded on those to see if you actually know what you are talkingabout or just parroting shit youve read online.

>>63988580
Yup you are mostly correct. Theres a great video from Cimarron themselves about how they "import" their rifles.

But yes Taylors/Cimarron contract out guns from multiple companies. The Uberti USA indeed contracted their 1886 from Pedersoli. Taylors and Cimarron are both very good about labeling who the gun comes from. But its usually pretty easy to know based on the model and the color case hardening.

>>63988642
Cimarron if you want originality. Taylors if you want a souped up race gun from the factory. Miroku if you want the name with no after market support and incorrect details.
Anonymous No.63988887 [Report]
>>63988679
Bury the front sight post as deep as you can in the center of the buckhorn. If riding horseback, have the front sight floating in the buckhorns and have a low 6 oclock hold. Best rhing ro do is get rid of the buckhorns and get a repro winchester carbine ladder sight.
Anonymous No.63988932 [Report] >>63988974
>>63988881
>Yes but no. The Carbines are also "flat buttplates" The shotgun buttstock is a specific design. Like I said they maie tons with rubber buttpads that look like shotgun buttplates but just because its flat doesnt make it a shotgun butt.
got an example?
Anonymous No.63988938 [Report] >>63988974
>>63988881
>Cimarron if you want originality. Taylors if you want a souped up race gun from the factory. Miroku if you want the name with no after market support and incorrect details.
no uberti?
Anonymous No.63988974 [Report] >>63989016
>>63988938
Cimarron and Taylors are "importers" for Uberti, Chiappa, Pedersoli Pietta. All depending on which model you are buying.

>>63988932
Here you go. Best I got with me currently
Anonymous No.63989016 [Report] >>63989044
>>63988974
oh I thought you meant they had like a rubber pad, and yeah it looks like cimarron says uberti is their supplier for their 1873s.
Anonymous No.63989044 [Report] >>63989131
>>63989016
Yeah we went over that up a few posts. Its pretty easy though.

1873 SAA and all blackpowder Colts (51/60/etc.) - Uberti/Pietta
1866 and 1873 rifles - Uberti
1886 - Pedersoli/Chiappa
1887 - Chiappa/PRC Cimarron
1892 - Chiappa
1894 - Uberti
1895 - No italians
Anonymous No.63989131 [Report]
>>63989044
I'll have to look through their catalogues. I want a winchester 1873 and maybe a marlin 1894 since imo those are the guns that have the receivers that look best aesthetically
Anonymous No.63989225 [Report] >>63989233 >>63989251
>>63986515
half cock notch. no cross bar. i think it does have the lever safety, but ive never really cared about it. im not going to short stroke a deluxe or do any of the other CAS mods to this in particular.
>>63986894
yeah friend the half round gets my peepee hard. such a good look on most rifles of that era especially when they have that turned decorative ring or bead in the transition 10/10.
that expert faggot is still having a meltdown lmao
Anonymous No.63989233 [Report] >>63989251
>>63989225
>>63986894
I wonder how hard it would be/how expensive it would be to half round my h004 octagon barrel
Anonymous No.63989251 [Report] >>63989278
>>63989233
if you turn it down on a lathe yourself not much, yer main cost'd be refinishing. idk how much a gunsmith would charge maybe in the $200-$300 range just guessing off the top o the dome. a machine shop would not even be worth it unless you know a fella there who could squeeze in a job.
>>63989225
found an example pic. muh dick
Anonymous No.63989278 [Report]
>>63989251
that looks cool
Anonymous No.63989540 [Report] >>63989807
>>63970305
it must be so bizzare to be a jap and you go to work every day and make guns for fat americans to larp as cowboys and blast into trash piles on holidays with their friends while day drinking. i wonder if they are jealous or resentful about it. japs should have a serious gun rights movement, they deserve it.

the US propped up so many restructured goverments after ww2, why didnt they force them to recognize the same rights they had at home?
Anonymous No.63989732 [Report] >>63989828
>>63971752
Hated mine so much I sold it for 600$
Might get a .223 just to support the concept. Henry dropped the ball with this one
Anonymous No.63989748 [Report] >>63989830
>>63979980
Or 5.56...
Anonymous No.63989807 [Report]
>>63989540
>the US propped up so many restructured goverments after ww2, why didnt they force them to recognize the same rights they had at home?
don't want the colonies rebelling
Anonymous No.63989812 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
Henry does great work.
Anonymous No.63989828 [Report]
>>63989732
What didn’t you like about it?
Anonymous No.63989830 [Report]
>>63989748
It’s the same rifle…. Dual chambering…
Anonymous No.63989886 [Report] >>63989892 >>63989918 >>63990027 >>63990040
Is that true you cant use pointed bullets in lever actions?
Anonymous No.63989892 [Report] >>63989908
>>63989886
You can, but you have to load then base first.
Anonymous No.63989908 [Report]
>>63989892
what
Anonymous No.63989918 [Report]
>>63989886
It’s not a great idea in tubular magazines…. Which is most lever actions.
Anonymous No.63990027 [Report]
>>63989886
yes and no. You should never load pointy bullets into a tube mag, most classic lever action rifles have tubular magazines
there is a type of ammo with polymer tips that you can load in tube mags just fine
there are lever guns with box mags that shoot pointed bullets just fine such as the Winchester 1895, Savage 99, and Henry Long ranger
Anonymous No.63990040 [Report]
>>63989886
It's rude to point, didn't your mother ever tell you?
Anonymous No.63990068 [Report]
>>63970606
Not that specific one though. Unless you like paying $4/rnd for full power ammo.
Anonymous No.63990092 [Report] >>63990224
>>63971110
Miroku made my x bolt pro, and i think it made my other x bolt pro that i sold recently
Anonymous No.63990224 [Report]
>>63971110
>>63990092
https://www.winchesterguns.com/support/faq/manufacture-location.html
70s are yuroshit
https://www.browning.com/support/faq/firearms-manufactured.html
Anonymous No.63990372 [Report] >>63990378
>>63988639
Wait you cant use stripper clips to load it on modern repros?
Anonymous No.63990378 [Report] >>63991809 >>63995507
>>63990372
only the russian contract guns ever took stripper clips
Anonymous No.63991118 [Report] >>63991331 >>64001950
>>63988679
>how the FUCK do you use the buckhorn sights on a Henry big boy?

You don't. You replace them with something better. Everything is better.
I shoot almost exclusively with irons. I hate buck horn and semi buck horn sights with a firey passion that cannot be surpassed even by the power of a 1000 exploding suns. They are absolute garbage.
Anonymous No.63991331 [Report] >>63991368 >>63992110
>>63991118
>firey passion that cannot be surpassed even by the power of a 1000 exploding suns
Please show your math or stop exaggerating.
Anonymous No.63991368 [Report] >>63992110
>>63991331
Short sight radius, more difficult to maintain the correct sight picture that you sighted it in for. The elevation isn't nearly as adjustable.
Even on the best days where I get 3" at 100 yards at the bench using a buckhorn I know that would easily be 1.5" using a peep sight with a tiny brass bead front sight.
Peeps are always the answer on leverguns. As close to your eye as you can stand, a tang sight is technically a slightly longer sight radius than a reciever mounted one like a Williams or Skinner, but there's probably diminishing returns somewhere.
Anonymous No.63991440 [Report] >>63991592 >>63991830 >>63992117
>>63971094
>mirokus aren't good enough for me, only a big horn is
>stock photo
So you dont even own a levergun?
Anonymous No.63991592 [Report] >>63992117
>>63991440
He's just a contrarian shitter.
Anonymous No.63991809 [Report] >>63992117
>>63990378
is there a single company thaty makes them with stripper clips in mind rn?
Anonymous No.63991830 [Report]
>>63991440
Miroku is very quality making guns with traditional way and many precise.
Anonymous No.63991870 [Report]
It's not like Big Horn Armory is bad, it's just that the money they're asking is insane and you get similar size and power out of a modern 1886. Substantially more power if you opted for a 45-90 or convert to 50-110.
There are misc problems I've seen reported online are fairly minor and the big ones were remedied, shouldn't happen with a $3.5 - $5k firearm. What you're getting is a beefed up(around the chamber is most impctful) ever so slightly smaller 1886 reciever.
I don't personally like the 460 or 500 Magnums, they're just too big to be practical in revolvers or leverguns.
454 Casull can be had in a Rossi 92 that's the same size as an original 1892 and internally changed a little bit to accomodate 1.800" cartridges.
(454 Rossi - carrier is longer with shallower angle to chamber, carrier stop is further back, cartridge guides have their rim guides moved further back, lever throw is longer to move the bolt back further which gives greater clearance, etc)
Anonymous No.63991918 [Report]
>>63973840
Nicest rack I've seen in years. I am lusting for a Winchester 1894-1994 centennial with the long barrel short mag.
Can't justify consooming any more gun related stuff this year. I had a nice Hanwei bastard sword, which I sold and got a nicer Nylon 66 and a used S&W Mod 10-5 for. Best deal ever. Saving for a A4 atm
Anonymous No.63992110 [Report]
>>63991368
>>63991331
yeah the skinners are pretty far away from your eyes compared to like AR sights, but I hear tang sights don't play well with heavier recoiling guns. either way I shoot the skinners on my gun better than I shoot the buckhorns they came with and I shoot with a red dot that's on a QD mount better than the skinners
Anonymous No.63992117 [Report]
>>63991440
>>63991592
I will say, the big horn is in a retarded caliber, but that gun looks nice and since it's an 1886 style receiver it looks way better than a 1892 or 1894 gun. That said, a lot of companies make good looking 1886s
>>63991809
not that I know of
Anonymous No.63992219 [Report] >>63994366
i have a marlin 336 classic in .30-30 and i love it! it's a lot of fun to shoot and i feel like a cowboy yee-haw! it has a gold (brass) trigger, shoots like a dream, 6+1 capacity, and the factory irons are good at least out to 100 yds (dont have a further range than that nearby).
Anonymous No.63992988 [Report]
what's the point of the 2 position globe sight? does the nonhooded sight work with buckhorns?
Anonymous No.63994366 [Report]
>>63992219
.30-30 is expensive for range ammo
Anonymous No.63994395 [Report] >>63994413
>>63971110
I think model 70s are secretly made by Bergara
Anonymous No.63994413 [Report]
>>63994395
they have the suppliers on their website
Anonymous No.63995497 [Report] >>63996162 >>63997778 >>63998688 >>64001015
whats the consensus on space gats
Anonymous No.63995507 [Report]
>>63990378
i wish miroku would get off their asses and make a repro already
Anonymous No.63996162 [Report]
>>63995497
red dot on the barrel is cool, anything else is gay
Anonymous No.63997374 [Report]
>winchester makes a half octagonal 1873 with a pistol grip
>shotgun buttplate
reeeeeeeee
Anonymous No.63997778 [Report]
>>63995497
I can dig stainless.. but it looses me as soon as it tries to get the “tactical” look
Anonymous No.63997779 [Report] >>63998025
I don't think winchester still makes 1895
Anonymous No.63998025 [Report] >>63998038 >>63998047
>>63997779
Miroku still makes 1895 reproductions for "winchester"
Anonymous No.63998038 [Report] >>63998060 >>63998060
>>63998025
6.5 when?
Anonymous No.63998047 [Report] >>63998060 >>63998060 >>64001599
>>63998025
I literally cant find any 1895 in stock anywhere
Anonymous No.63998060 [Report] >>63998068 >>63998078 >>64001599
>>63998038
probably never. I don't know what pressures the design can stand.
>>63998047
I think you need to get on like a waiting list. I doubt they are pumping out 1895s.
>>63998038
>>63998047
even when the 1895 "was popular" 70% of all rifle sales were to the Russian government. If you get rid of that the 1895 sold like shit, just like the 1876, 1885 and 1886. The only winchester rifles that really sold well were the 73, 92 and 94, though the 1876 and 1886 I think still made ok money because they were specifically sold to a lot of richfags who bought custom guns, but the 1895 was never a really big US market gun, especially because not long after the 1892 krag got surplused and the market got flooded with cheap bolt guns after WWI
Anonymous No.63998068 [Report] >>63998096 >>63998670 >>63998681
>>63998060
Based Teddy used one. That is all the approval I need.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_Christianity
Anonymous No.63998078 [Report] >>63998096
>>63998060
At that point bolties were coming into vogue. It doesn't mean they are not great rifles, especially for civilians.
Bad sales ≠ bad product
They were heavy, expensive and the mechanism is less forgiving.
Anonymous No.63998096 [Report] >>63998112 >>63998670
>>63998068
>>63998078
I'm not saying they were bad, I'm saying they don't really have a market. They didn't have a market then and they don't really have a market now. the modern lever action market is largely based on boomers doing cowboy action shooting.
See smith and wesson only selling PCCs and .45-70
marlin was basically bankrupt before remingshit bought them and savage doesn't make the 99 anymore.
Anonymous No.63998112 [Report]
>>63998096
I agree with you. I wish they had modern manufacturing and chamberings. I also wish Remington rolling blocks had modern repros.
But the bean counters will say that starting a production line is not woth it, even though with modern CNC the start up cost is minimal.
Anonymous No.63998670 [Report] >>64000155
>>63998068
Interesting link.
>>63998096
>the modern lever action market is largely based on boomers doing cowboy action shooting.
I think the CASS wave is over.
Anonymous No.63998681 [Report]
>>63998068
Based.
Anonymous No.63998688 [Report]
>>63995497
Red dot = okay
Plastic/painted furniture in a classic style = okay
Stainless/chrome/modern coatings = okay
Putting that one company's mlok abomination and skeleton stock on your gun = not okay
Anonymous No.63998697 [Report] >>63998722 >>63998725
>half the thread deleted
Why even have a board at this point
Anonymous No.63998704 [Report]
>>63968177 (OP)
pedersoli
https://www.davidepedersoli.com/en/products/model-8671-lever-action
Anonymous No.63998722 [Report]
>>63998697
Desperation until OperatorChan revives.
Anonymous No.63998725 [Report]
>>63998697
Desperation, nostalgia.
Anonymous No.64000155 [Report] >>64000682
>>63998670
then who is buying the lever guns?
Anonymous No.64000682 [Report] >>64000734 >>64000963
>>64000155
Not him but collectors and history buffs. Lastly those who want to shoot a piece of history or just enjoy guns
Anonymous No.64000734 [Report] >>64001506
>>64000682
they would be buying antiques, not repros
Anonymous No.64000963 [Report]
>>64000682
Or zoomers who just find them cool and played RDR2 recently.
Anonymous No.64001015 [Report]
>>63995497
Aggressively homosex.
Anonymous No.64001041 [Report] >>64001051 >>64001091
>>63968177 (OP)
As far as pistol-caliber 92s and 94s (I have very little experience outside these)

I think:

Smoothest action + Pretty + Attention to fit and finish = Henry

Best accuracy + bad QA = Marlin

Best value + bad fit and finish = Rossi

I have not ever handled a post purchase transfer Winchester.

I have never handled a "bespoke" lever action either.
Anonymous No.64001051 [Report]
>>64001041
>Henry
lol
LOL
Anonymous No.64001091 [Report]
>>64001041
in terms of PCCs, if you want a work gun get a marlin because the marlin 1894 has a cool looking receiver, if you want a range toy get an 1873 clone because the 1873 has a cool looking receiver
Anonymous No.64001506 [Report] >>64001549
>>64000734
You don't speak for them.
Anonymous No.64001549 [Report]
>>64001506
>collect a gun made in 2022 in italy
Anonymous No.64001599 [Report] >>64001623 >>64001628
>>63998060
>>63998047
miroku does a batch or two of 1895s every year, you have to wait for an import to get one at a good price. mines a 30-06, paid about 1200 iirc
Anonymous No.64001623 [Report] >>64001694
>>64001599
where'd you got it? I literally couldnt find it anywhere
Anonymous No.64001628 [Report] >>64001694
>>64001599
howd you put a sling on it?
Anonymous No.64001694 [Report]
>>64001628
drilled and tapped a swivel in the rear, front is a shotgun style barrel mounted swivel
>>64001623
gunjoker
Anonymous No.64001921 [Report] >>64001959
the bigger the loop the better
Anonymous No.64001950 [Report]
>>63991118
Skill issue
Anonymous No.64001959 [Report] >>64002009 >>64002018
>>64001921
big loop gross
>1892 over an 1873 or marlin 1894
Anonymous No.64002009 [Report] >>64002058
>>64001959
The 92 handily outclasses those by any metric unless you're doing CAS.(you're not)
Anonymous No.64002018 [Report] >>64002058
>>64001959
sodbuster detected
Anonymous No.64002058 [Report] >>64002084
>>64002009
>>64002018
the receiver for the 1873 and marlin 1894 both look cooler than the 1892 receiver, ergo they are better
Anonymous No.64002084 [Report] >>64002124
>>64002058
aesthetics is a matter of opinion
now try spin cocking that 1873... oh wait you cant, ergo the 1892 is better
Anonymous No.64002124 [Report] >>64002133
>>64002084
big lever loop is gay
Anonymous No.64002133 [Report]
>>64002124
are you sure about that