What does /k/ think about the AK-12, which is essentially an inferior version of the AK-74M with low-quality plastic parts and poor production quality?
It was supposed to be a completely new rifle, but the money was stolen, and the prototype was too expensive to mass produce. In the end, the Kalashnikov factory just slapped cheap plastic parts on the AK-74M and rolled with it. Now, the second army in the world arguably has one of the worst-quality rifles
And now, a word from z-groids!

https://t.me/Z13_Separ/40922 (242K subscribers)
>Criminal cases are bound to be brought against the management of the Kalashnikov Concern, because these faggots have to answer for the fucking AK-12, at the very least.
>You fucking bastards, may your hands wither away, you clumsy scumbags.
>I'll tell you more, the faggots from this concern are selling our Ministry of Defense defective AK-12 assault rifles, and most importantly, all the “rulers” are fine with it, even though everyone says and knows that the AK-12 is shit, just like its design.

https://t.me/dshrg2/3516 (251K subscribers)
>AK-12. Just look at the quality of the metal.
>Six months of use, regular maintenance. After three days in a humid climate without direct exposure to precipitation, it looks like this.

https://t.me/apwagner/44223 (261K subscribers)
>More reviews about the AK-12. It rusts, the metal is so delicate that after firing a burst, the entire rifle becomes clogged with shavings and often jams.
>Corrosion is a given. It is unsuitable for field conditions. And no one could have imagined that.

Its an AK-100 but worse. AK-100 actually did the cost cutting measures correctly.

>>63968483
Ak100 is still AK74

>>63968503
By that definition the AK-74 is an AK-47/AKM

>>63968454 (OP)
to be fair all aks rust like nothing

I dont care about the guns perceived failings, I want to fuck it

>>63968543
No
AK105 is literally a carbine version of AK74M
All this "100 series" is literally money laundering. They were given massive amounts of government money to make "new" rifles and they just rechambered AK74
"Modernization" without any actual modernization

>>63968454 (OP)
>just slapped cheap plastic parts on the AK-74M and rolled with it.
No, the 74M3 is a different gun. Partly due to the reasons you list, they are much more sought after; but they were only given to certain units.

>>63968647
>No
Yes
AK12 is literally AK74

>>63968652
No its not. The things that distinguish it from the 74 (dust cover, trigger group, gas block) are not backwards compatible. AK12s are new production guns, 74M3s are upgraded old guns.

>>63968454 (OP)
but-but-but... the browners told me that AK-12 is fine and good?1

None of this even matters. You can get an American-made AK that smokes the absolute SHIT out of anything the Russians have ever issued or considered issuing, and it STILL won't be as good as an AR-15 can be. Stay losing, vatniks.

>>63968658
All I know is that the AK-12 is one of the worst AKs in Tarkov.

Captcha: NHGR2

>>63968454 (OP)
I hate you faggots so much. Read a book nigger.

The AK12 is a totally different design from the AK74 and AK47 that came before it. It may not be as good as the AK74 but that's entirely due the selector switch not having an over-travel stop. All other criticisms are pure propaganda cope.

>>63968454 (OP)
>tfw we could have lived in the alternate timeline where the AN94 became mass produced
Fuck this gay world.

>>63968699
>The AK12 is a totally different design from the AK74
Lmao
You're lying

>>63968762
It is a different design; it operates on the same principals.
For example, the AK-12s modular stock and tilt-up upper receiver. You cannot put an AK-12 stock on an AK-74, just like you can't put an AK-74 barrel into an AK-12's upper receiver.

>>63968779
But how is all of it "totally different"?
It's just different, it could be AK74MB or AK74MD or whatever, just another letter in the name, not a completely new rifle line

The REAL AK12 was supposed to be an actually different rifle, but it never happened, because russia can't afford making new stuff (it's better to steal the money)
And the REAL AK12 was actually a good rifle (I mean AK74 is a good rifle too, it's just that the complete degradation of gun production complex in russia led to the appearance of dumbed down AK12 that has no innovations whatsoever)

Bolt

>>63968681
ARs are better than AKs. I own 2 ARs and no commie guns, but you are sure as shit a no gunz bong

>>63968709
It was like 3 grand back in 90s dollars. It was never going to happen even if it was good.

>>63968681
You don’t own any guns.

>>63968454 (OP)
>After three days in a humid climate without direct exposure to precipitation, it looks like this.
this seems perfectly reasonable for three days of humidity, without cleaning, after digesting a bunch of corrosive ammo.

Thats why we OIL Firearms
/bait thread

>>63970044
>ARs are better than AKs
Why are you arguing with him, retard? He said the same thing

>>63970266
>/bait thread
I literally gave you links to the diehard ziggers and at least one of them actively participates in the war
It's literally ziggers themselves who say that the AK12 sucks nigger dicks

>>63970336
I don't like bongs, and he is clearly a bong

>>63968454 (OP)
Wow, a rifle made of steel rusted when it wasn't taken care of in a trench?
What a shocker!
Very few rifles use stainless steel parts, almost every single gun in the world will develop that type of surface rust when not properly maintained in a humid and wet environment. They're not magical and antioxidant lubricant needs to be regularly applied to keep your gun from rusting.

>>63968681
>You can get an American-made AK that smokes the absolute SHIT out of anything the Russians have ever issued or considered issuing
Lmao
Noguns bullshit out the ass.
Not a single American company has ever made a decent AK and stayed in business for any length of time.

>>63970463
Russians have been getting issued rifles in this kind of condition since the war started.

>>63970470
>Not a single American company has ever made a decent AK and stayed in business for any length of time.
PSA would like a word with you.

>>63968454 (OP)
>$1200 on GunBroker
>I know what I got no lowballers

>>63968779
>For example, the AK-12s modular stock and tilt-up upper receiver.
You are thinking of the AKV-521, a civilian rifle project initiated right before the war.
> just like you can't put an AK-74 barrel into an AK-12's upper receiver.
Christ, you people are retarded

>>63968454 (OP)
>Six months of use, regular maintenance. After three days in a humid climate without direct exposure to precipitation, it looks like this.
No matter how fucked Russian QC might be, this doesn't sound real. Unless he really means:
>six months of use
six months of exclusively corrosive ammo
>regular maintenance
field stripped and cleaned the gun maybe 2-4 times
>three days in a humid climate without direct exposure to precipitation
three days submerged in salt water, protected from precipitation by virtue of being underwater
>>63972129
>PSA
Mediocre at best, and it took a lot to even get where they are. They still aren't comparable to imported AKs.
>>63968699
>>63968779
>The AK12 is a totally different design from the AK74
Jesus Christ help this idiot.
> just like you can't put an AK-74 barrel into an AK-12's upper receiver.
That's not how AKs work.

This might be the worst thread on the board at the moment.

>>63972603
>No matter how fucked Russian QC might be, this doesn't sound real
It is real. Wartime QC just doesn't exist (the money was stolen, it's pidorussia)
>>63972630
Why?

It's over for AKcels