The kurdish PKK is disarming - /k/ (#63970067) [Archived: 309 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/11/2025, 8:51:03 PM No.63970067
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So, what do you think /k/?

>Were the PKK effective as an insurgency?
>Would this lead to more or less attacks on kurdish militias in Iraq and Syria by Turkey?
>Would Turkey shift their military focus on other things now?
>If Kurdistan became their own country with their own, should they buy the F-16 block 70, Gripen or Rafale?
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 8:52:58 PM No.63970073
>>63970067 (OP)
>with their own military
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 8:54:36 PM No.63970084
Syria and Iraq got toppled. They have plenty of lands now. Just nothing 'official'. I guess they take this as a win
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:04:13 PM No.63970121
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>>63970067 (OP)
>what do you think of the PKK
All I know about the PKK is that I used to work with a Kurd who was obsessed with the PKK.
This same guy also openly talked about how much he enjoyed gang-banging farm animals with his cousins every time he traveled back to visit his family's farm in his home country.
He insisted on talking about this frequently, almost daily, even when every one else was clearly uncomfortable with the subject, even when they told him outright to shut up.
He also talked about how he was trying to pressure/blackmail his family into letting him marry his 11 year old cousin. This got him badly beaten by several of his coworkers (including me) and fired by his boss immediately afterwards.
No idea what happened to him after that.

Is this in any way relevant to the PKK? No, but you asked. Pic unrelated.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:27:56 PM No.63970210
>>63970121
Hard as fuck pic, I wish I could be half as cool
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:29:55 PM No.63970219
Damn. I loved watching rekt roach compilations.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:33:46 PM No.63970234
Once they are disarmed Turkey will 10000% rape the fuckin shit out of them.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:35:48 PM No.63970247
>>63970210
That's just the average rural east coaster but black.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 9:41:49 PM No.63970270
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>>63970219
Don't worry, you can still watch mutts getting btfo on several fronts
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:39:18 PM No.63970502
>>63970067 (OP)
>So, what do you think /k/?
they are not actually disarming.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 10:47:23 PM No.63970533
>>63970067 (OP)
> PKK
Are those the Commie Kurds?
t. hard to keep those tribes differentiated
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:38:05 PM No.63970746
>>63970067 (OP)
>Were the PKK effective as an insurgency?
No, they never defeated Turkey which was their goal.
>Would this lead to more or less attacks on kurdish militias in Iraq and Syria by Turkey?
I'd say about the same number of attacks.
>Would Turkey shift their military focus on other things now?
I doubt it, killing Kurds is not only a popular hobby, but they see it as training for their fresh recruits.
>If Kurdistan became their own country with their own, should they buy the F-16 block 70, Gripen or Rafale?
It'll hardly matter what they get.
Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:49:50 PM No.63970821
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>>63970533
Yes.

The PKK are basically Kurdish Maoists. Not "officially" but they came out of that ideology in the 60s/70s. You know how there were these militant leftist student groups all over the world at that time, the PKK emerged from the Kurdish version of them but were actually effective and turned into an actual rebel army with 10,000 militants by the early 90s.

They also had a dispute within the Turkish left. They didn't get along well with other leftists in Turkey. A lot of Turkish leftists didn't take Kurdish autonomy seriously as many Kurds saw it. It's like debates you hear on the left today about minorities and identity politics. The Kurdish Marxists believed that Kurds were an oppressed, colonized people like Palestinians, so they formed their own groups. Or like the Black Panther Party in America. Maoism was more influential with these types. "Nationally oppressed" groups. Their leader, Abdullah ร–calan (or "Apo" for short), was first introduced to Marxism by reading Bukharin (the Bolshevik revolutionary) and was also ruthless, and they grew in size and adopted a Maoist-style or Viet Cong-style guerrilla war in the mountains, which the Turkish gendarmes there were unprepared to deal with.

There were also military coups in Turkey which destabilized the situation, and crushed other leftist groups, but the PKK were border hoppers and had foreign sources of support (the USSR, Bulgaria, Greece, Syria, Iraq), and they also would go to DFLP-run camps in Lebanon for training. (That's a Palestinian Maoist group.) Also the PKK got money from the Kurdish diaspora, a lot of them in Germany.

Idk what'll happen. I'd say they lasted longer than most of these 70s/80s leftist groups, and were more imaginative and creative. When the Cold War ended, Apo rejiggered the ideology to something called "democratic confederalism" which took inspiration from environmentalism and anarchism, including the ideas from an American anarchist from Vermont named Murray Bookchin.
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Anonymous
7/11/2025, 11:57:35 PM No.63970860
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Also please note they have NO RELATION WHATSOEVER to the YPG/YPJ in Rojava (please do not pay attention to the Apo portraits and flags lying around) which has teamed up with U.S. special forces to fight ISIS:
https://youtu.be/4k819yUjeGw
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:06:30 AM No.63970909
>>63970821
4th and 5th chick look cute
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:58:54 AM No.63971125
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>>63970270
Indeed.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 1:21:16 AM No.63971207
>>63970121
Tusker beer is named in memorial of the company founder who was killed by an elephant.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 3:00:56 AM No.63971571
>>63970067 (OP)
>were they effective
Not really
>will kurds get bombed less?
Maybe a little. Turkey will still probably bomb them every so often.
>will Turkey shift focus
They will consolidate gains in securing their border with Kurdistan. So no.
>will they be their own country?
Not unless Iraq disintegrates.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 3:51:00 AM No.63971733
>>63970821
as a turkroach
what i fear the most is this
what are the kurds(pkks defacto political arm dem-parti)getting in return
its over if its a place in the akp-mhp ruling coalition
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 10:43:01 AM No.63972815
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erdogan is a slimy fuck. A good politician and absolute evil human being. he sold all his prior friends and allies. Either he will be sold or he will sell the kurds. This thing will not work.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 10:50:49 AM No.63972837
>>63972815
Erdogan is taking his position. It has been openly decided that Iran will be divided. And a stance is being taken against this. The wars to be fought by Amerikikes, against the China & Russia, and their satellites, with uncertain outcomes.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 10:55:48 AM No.63972844
>>63971733
Well shit he actually confirmed that
The Kurds are actually joining his ruling coalition with mhp(the fact that this coalition even exists is ironic considering that was the very selling point for the executive presidency that country transitioned in 2018 no more coalitions
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:07:33 AM No.63972868
>>63970270
you seem upset about something.
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:23:02 AM No.63972889
>>63970067 (OP)
>the militants - designated as a terrorist organization by the EU
lol, roaches are shameless
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 11:24:46 AM No.63972892
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>>63972815
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:16:15 PM No.63972966
>>63972815
>>63972892

Would be a lot better if these ceremonial guys had fielded Ottoman 1893 Mauser rifles. M1 Garand has no sovl, at least it doesn't represent anything for this part of the world.
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Anonymous
7/12/2025, 12:43:25 PM No.63972995
>>63972966
I think ceremonial rifles are actually depends on where
M1 grand G3 and the mpt-76
Anonymous
7/12/2025, 8:39:22 PM No.63974417
>>63970860
>Donยดt worry about them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtnkCq_-TZY
Anonymous
7/13/2025, 12:05:20 AM No.63975079
>>63970067 (OP)
>Were the PKK effective as an insurgency?
in the 80's and early 90's they were ''effecibe'' they controlled a lot of rural regions and attacks on Turkish army/police were a daily occurance but in 1994 (winter campaign) they were BTFO in Turkey and never recovered, they were forced to reallocate to northern Iraq mainly in their inbred donkey fucking base of Qandill mountains which they share with the PJAK
things got worse for them the Turks started going after them in Iraq and after the 2003 US invasion and all of that shit the turks played their cards well and managed in forming an alliance with the KDP (the strongest out of the two major ruling parties of Iraqi Kurdestan) against the PKK
even in Syria the PKK (or PYG same shit) got raped by the Turks, amerimutt protections of Rojava is the only reason theur pseudo-commie dysrtopia is still around
>Would this lead to more or less attacks on kurdish militias in Iraq and Syria by Turkey?
they literally bombed them hours ago in Tichrin Dam, clashes between SDF and Syrian army erupted again kek
>Would Turkey shift their military focus on other things now?
Kurdish militant groups problem in Syria and Iraq will continue to be their #1 priotity, it's a matter of national security
>If Kurdistan became their own country with their own
never gonna happen