The Germans have done it again. Should burn nicely.

A novel way to export your plastic waste after China stopped accepting plastic garbage.

Does it have a '80% recycled bio-plastic' stamp?

>>63970640 (OP)
simple, easy to deploy, saves a lot of time during preparation of the battle positions, doesn't make a hole in a budget - what's not to like?
>it burns
well, so does wood. and trenches made of just dirt are not durable at all.

>>63970757
>>63970671

you are clearly OP trying to bump his thread on a topic we already discussed last year.

>>63970774
Wood doesn't turn into a puddle of gasoline.

>>63970799
yeah but it burns just as well lmao

>>63970799
>>63970806
Not a practical concern. If something is powerful enough to set the plastic on fire, it will have killed any humans long before.

>>63970671
>too wide, even in unskilled drone operator could get a grenade in there
>no easy to access firing points
>no inlets for CQB if enemy make it into the trench
>no slits at the bottom for drainage or kicking enemy grenades into
>unironically too high, cannot get out easily

Euro nations have forgotten even the most basic shit about warfare

>plastic clips
they deserved a nuke

every 50 years

>trench turned into a blast furnace
Germans should stop trying to incinerate people.

Where are these trenches?

>>63970883
On your mums ass

>>63970640 (OP)

>>63970640 (OP)
Wtf is that camo

>>63970907
multitarn

>>63970883
Probably some german training ground.

>But muh fire
Fire resistant plastics exist.
>But these trenches are poorly made
I'm sure some ukrainian veterans will sort that out before the system goes into mass production.

>>63970954
Fire resistant plastic still melts and burns.

>>63970957
And make toxic smoke.

>>63970896
Epic trole

>>63970847
>bombs start falling
>drones fly in
>grenade goes off
>fire starts
>tfw the trenches are melting on some
>tfw the plastic smoke is giving ass cancer to others

>>63970980
>A grenade will cause plastic walls to start burning
Retard.

>>63970957
So does literally everything

Is it me, or do all military advancements always end up resulting in trench warfare? We always seem to revert back to it eventually, is it really as far as we can take warfare?

>>63970982
Tracers make green grass burn.

>>63970986
hole in ground good place for grug to hide from big boom

>>63970986
shooting wars are fought over territory so the equilibrium is always no territory being exchanged

>>63970799
Neither does every kind of plastic.

I don't see why you couldn't replicate this in steel sheeting if the plastic actually burns in use.

>>63970982
No it won't, but the drones will surely ignite the rat nest of plastic covers and tarp soldier will drape all over the place as soon as they are moved into one of these tuna boxes.

Um guys, retired Col. Fiddlesticks says plastic trenches are entirely consistent with NATO doctrine. You should consider this is a shill thread to make you question doctrine. The doctrine is settled.

wood is a plastic

>>63970640 (OP)
>>63970671
The biggest issue here is unlike wooden boards you actually have to fill the entire rack meaning you're using a lot more material

Wood doesn't grow on trees!

>>63970640 (OP)
>germans
>picture is Austrians
You're a bad faith troll faggot

>>63970671
>Implessive
But what are fire retardants?

>>63971102

>>63971118
what's up armatard? why not a tupolev?

>>63971150
They can fly Antinov again now that they ran out of missiles.

>>63970640 (OP)
Why not just have a trench digging UGV that lays a netting? Also trenches are supposed to be somewhat hidden, irregular, needed immediately and temporary.

>>63970640 (OP)
>Should burn nicely.
We used to shore up trenches with wooden planks. Or even worse - wattle, that burns even easier. So it's not a problem.

>>63970847
>>no inlets for CQB if enemy make it into the trench
What did he mean by this?

Although the plastic panels are thick, the way the panels are attached to the metal frame looks like plastic hooks.

>>63970867
what?

>>63970847
>>too wide, even in unskilled drone operator could get a grenade in there
It's closed top
>>no easy to access firing points
Retard you just remove some segments and make a firing point

>>63970986
being shot sucks

>>63970671
How are you suppose to be able to climb out of this?

>>63970640 (OP)
They should learn how to build tanks

>>63970847
this is a communication trench, you put the segments in a different configuration to make fighting positions

>>63971417
The top is enclosed so you aren't supposed to climb through the roof at all.

>>63970986
We're on year 7,000 of organized warfare and armies still struggle with dirt that got wet.

>>63971417
And let the conscripts escape?

>>63970822
>powerful enough to set the plastic on fire
retard

>>63970757
It melts to fertilizer when wet. Very "green".

>>63971118
>agent fuchsia
So much better and worse than Agent Orange.

>>63970799
You know non flammable polymers exist, right?

>>63971077
Unironcally what's the difference? They look and act basically the same, only real difference is one uses a cool rifle still while the other let (((journalists))) kill off their cool rifle. No, fuck the 416 and if anyone posts that retarded stoner image I'm going to teleport to your location through the power of sheer rage and flip your body inside out

>>63970847
It's top covered design.
Actually proper response to modern drone threats.
https://x.com/RyanO_ChosenCoy/status/1938111957657178611
Covered trenches and fighting positions are must in the drone area. But they are very labor and material intensive. Prefabricated kits are essential to construction of such fortifications under pressure.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=g4Rs1UDcYhI

>>63970640 (OP)
These are actually really cool. Non flammable, grating on the floor, different modules for minecraft tier plug and play trenches including firing positions, covered trenches. Easy to transport and cheap. The german BW channel has a video showing how it is set up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Rs1UDcYhI

>>63970640 (OP)
this will greatly fertilize the ground, good work krauts

>>63973746
Ok, but what is the use case? firsties don't do trench warfare, and thirdies are not going to even bother and read the instructions (let alone measure it out with a level tool, that made me kek)

>>63973896
The use case is "just in case." Since other members of NATO have decided to carry their weight, the money has to be spent somehow. It's a decent tool to have in the back pocket.

>>63973896
>firsties don't do trench warfare
There's a time and place for many things, anon.

>>63973746
I'm buying whatever they're selling

>>63971020
1. They're not Russians
2. The design includes top cover

I swear we used to get a better class of Russian shill here.

Sorta feels like reinventing the wheel. What was wrong with pic related?

>>63973918
>better class
Either ran out of funds to get good shills or the good shills ditched russia when the conscription was happening

>>63973932
My guess is that its heavy and/or made of materials better used elsewhere.

I feel like people are intentionally misunderstanding the point of these German plastic trenches and shit like the 3d printed structures that the French are currently experimenting with. The whole point is that if you move to an area you can fortify it significantly faster than getting a whole bunch of dudes with shovels. If you have a whole bunch of time and equipment and money we can make the most elaborate fortifications imaginable but that's not the idea behind these shenanigans.

>>63973915
Better quality from old thread on this
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60621326

>>63970779
Hey, somebody remembers

>>63973971
Low information threads without links or context in the OP are intended to be bad like this.

>>63971077
>the "inventors" magically arent german anymore when another nation uses their product

>>63974280
>threads wihtout context
That kind of gatekeeping is unnecessary. This aint some military newspaper.

>>63970640 (OP)
Anon no MIC contractor is going to miss the opportunity to upsell flame retardant plastic for 10x the price.

>>63970640 (OP)
What other predictions does /k/ have for militaries looking backwards for solutions in the next decade?

>>63973746
Like legos for trenches. Neat.

>>63971417
you vill die in the trench and get made fun of by obese fat/k/unts for fun vhile you scream in pain for our entertainment monkey
now get in the van and onward to victory comrade, kiev in 3 days, warsaw in 3 weeks and berlin in 3 months

>>63975845
>assault guns for urban fights
>flechette CBU for jungles
>SPAA reintergrated into amour units

>>63973896
First world countries might not end up in a war of attrition, but they still need to dig trenches. Whenever you stop moving for whatever reason you're expected to start digging and never stop.

>>63970799
More like a sticky napalm like substance, nevermind the new strains of cancer you'll catch from inhaling the fumes.

>>63970779
Woah, this topic was discussed last year? Well in order to ensure a high quality 4chan we should definitely remove this post.

>>63970847

>Complains about a demonstration/proof of concept model, not being made as at a battlefield

>>63977672
America has it's HESCO fortifications.

>>63970847
That could be a utility trench further behind the main line for all you know.