https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7n6uqIhtQg

>>63982865 (OP)
>is worse than HK and Glock
wooow a gun i will never buy

>>63982865 (OP)
Stacking tolerances and inconstancy in parts design is unforgivable. Retarded jeet shitskin designed by greedy kikes.

>>63982929
What parts need to be fixed to make it useful?

>>63982927
HK is vastly overrated, my p2000sk was a piece of shit.

>>63982935
Drop it and keep building 220/226/229 series.

>>63982940
well, did it explode

>ENDLESS SMEARING
It's called a sear and the problem is that it ends too soon.

>>63982893
>watching keemtripp
Unironically kys.

>>63982865 (OP)
Gun's brown, smear it down.

>>63982865 (OP)
So flawless that ICE is replacing them with Glocks
https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_70CMSW25FR0000030_7012_70B06C19D00000007_7014

>>63982865 (OP)
S elf
I inflicted
G bunshot

>>63983009
SAAAR!!! SAAAAAR!!! DO NOT DEPORT!!! DO NOT DEPOOOORT!!!!
BLOODY BENCHOD BASTARD!!! DO NOT DEPORT!!!!

>>63982865 (OP)
>ENDLESS SMEARING

Yeah that's what Indians do with a piece of shit.

Engineers forgot that triggers actually have weight and inertia is a thing. Cool idea with the modular firing unit, but other than that, no amount of government dick sucking can outweigh poor design choices, poor materials, poor fit and finish, and it being a nu sig. Still has the mile high bore axis that makes it so much snappier than almost any other 9 on the market. Plus they blatantly ripped off logos and ideas with the Rose line. Love my sig cross, but I will never own another sig product again.

>>63982865 (OP)
leg wound searing

>>63982935
Install a Glock style plunger firing pin safety and all the problems would go away.

Siggers!

>>63983412
This and to make all the MIM parts with higher QC/QA but I'm not sure India is capable of that.

>>63982865 (OP)
US army abandoning their Colt SAA revolvers and it's consequences has been a disaster for the human race.

>>63982940
>HK is vastly overrated, my p2000sk was a piece of shit.
Unlike rifles that can for the most part be a one size fits all approach and for the most part appease the vast majority of people pistols are a very personal thing as everyone has different requirements and hand sizes.
Of course I'd say the bare minimum for any modern duty or ccw pistol it should at the very least not go shooting peoples dicks off when holstered.

>>63982929
they could have designed something that's not so easily upset by tolerance stacking
>>63982935
all of them

>>63983290
The modular FCU isn't even a thing it can claim it has cornered now with stuff like the RXM rapidly gaining aftermarket support. Glock gen 6 will also sorta kinda have an FCU, at least by the patents it'll be functionally as modular as one. SIG's corner of the market is being poached while they are fumbling with production issues because they are dumb Jews.

Also I'm sure you are aware but the super high bore axis comes from the fact the 320 was originally a DAO hammer fire gun they hastily repurposed to be a striker fire gun because it would be cheaper for them to produce after they got all the tooling for it already and the hammer fire gun flopped

>>63984943
>>63983412
Glock style plunger firing pin and replace all MIM. Anything else?

>>63987389
Glock-style safety lever on the trigger shoe wouldn't hurt.
And Beef up the internal frame so it can't flex away from the slide, causing the striker to slip off the sear.

>>63982940
P30SK is best SK.

>>63985336
>the bare minimum for any modern duty or ccw pistol it should at the very least not go shooting peoples dicks off when holstered.
Negligent discharge sarrr, the P320 can under no circumstances fire on it's own without intentionally engaging the trigger. Highest grade US and Indian engineering went into making Sig Saurs lineup of firearms reliable and safe.

SIGGER SIGGER, SIGGER SIGGER

>>63987186
>>63987186
>>63983290
I mean steyr did it first and sued Sig for copyright infringement. They lost because sig changed a tiny part and that made it completely different somehow.

I'd sue her.

>>63988095
Grendel/KelTec did it first.
But Sig's internal frame is nearly identical to the system patented by Steyr.

>>63982865 (OP)
Really i just hate the grip on these, so fat and rounded its disgusting. Even gen 3 glock grips are more sightly than them. The shitty quality indian MIM parts and shooting themselves is just an added hate bonus for me

>>63983009
Why doesnt ICE use m&p's? No love for american gun companies?

>>63988544
M&p is for military and police only

>>63982865 (OP)
CAUGHT IN A STRING
SLIDER REARING
ND'd IN THE REAR

Does anyone actually know why the M&P 2.0 didn't make it into the top bracket of the MHS? It's surprising the Glock MHS made it but not the M&P honestly. Everything I've ever seen about them makes it seem like they're superior to the P320, if not on par with glocks

>>63988567
Don't tell Uncle Sam that I managed to get one from my LGS.

>>63988738
Sig underbid every other competitor significantly

>>63988738
As the first guy said, undercutting was what basically won the contract; however, another consideration is that while all the companies built a "modular" pistol that met the army's specs (can put a red dot, rail for light and laser, and interchangeable grips for manlets and women with tiny hands), SIG marketed the FCU as solving a problem that armorers had. If an important part breaks, rather than replacing the whole gun, it's easier than ever to just replace that part.

No longer do you need to worry about the crayon eaters breaking the frame by using it as a hammer to break down rocks, because if they do, you can just get a new frame.

>>63988127
All roads lead to Kellgren
If Browning was on cocaine

>>63982935
but that didn't answer his question, why does nobody neck up cartridges?

>>63987409
P30SK looks like a buttplug. P200SK looks like sex.

>>63983009
ICE is a bunch of incompetents. Even BP doesn't like them.

>>63989653
> If an important part breaks, rather than replacing the whole gun, it's easier than ever to just replace that part.

>No longer do you need to worry about the crayon eaters breaking the frame by using it as a hammer to break down rocks, because if they do, you can just get a new frame.

I still don’t think this was a wise thing to do for military and even police. They have contracts with these gun manufacturers that take into account for warranty and replacement of the entire gun, there’s literally no need to replace an individual part to get it back into service just replace the entire handgun as it’s quicker and cheaper in the end with no concern of loose tolerance spic(especially after being in service for years) and fitment where it can cause accidental discharge.
Such a fucking dumb design.

>>63982865 (OP)
We went from
>2 WORLD WARS!
to
>TWO GULF WARS!
to
>IT ND's NOW!

>>63989653
Except the Glock MHS got to final testing without an FCU at all, the requirements didn't expressly mention an FCU, just that they wanted grip options for female hands (which the Gen 4/5 and M&P backstraps satisfied).

Also the P320 has the ejector fixed onto the FCU and no overinsertion protection, which is hilarious. It's not fixable, the FCU is trash if you slam the magazines into it too hard and bend the ejector. If they added either an overinsertion limiter or made the ejector a replaceable component they could have avoided this.

It's genuinely amazing how few people talk about this fatal flaw, but not surprising given the multitude of other problems it has

>>63991882
Procuring new serialized "guns" is difficult. Procuring parts is easy. That's the reason. If you don't work for the DOD you won't understand.

>>63993151
>the requirements didn't expressly mention an FCU
Thank you, Captain Obvious, for repeating what I said. The requirements were (as I already stated)...
>(can put a red dot, rail for light and laser, and interchangeable grips for manlets and women with tiny hands)
... and like I said, the FCU was a massive bonus; it went above and beyond the requirement, which I clearly stated.
>Also the P320 has the ejector fixed onto the FCU and no overinsertion protection, which is hilarious. It's not fixable, the FCU is trash
That we can agree on. Out of all the FCUs I've seen, SIG's FCU is the worst. The paper pushers involved in weapons procurement just don't care.

>>63993120
kek

>>63989780
Retard

>>63993151

>>63993120
>TWO LAWSUITS