Joerg Praves needle gun bears striking similarity to a classified NATO weapon I saw in a dream.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OCFtasCy7Ag&pp=ygUOY28yIG5lZWRsZSBndW4%3D

The system has features.

This is the HK GP11 the underwater pistol. At least this is the first commercially pertussis
Produced variant.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_P11

You may say that despite having a pepper box layout these would have no other similarity. Sort of true, sort of missing the point.

It's an special purpose weapon which sort it fills the same role, and when you realise how many applications the p11 SPW has you will realise how many similarities there actually are.

>>63994687 (OP)
>>63994691
Can't tell if your posts are because you're ESL or because it's generative AI.

>>63994694
Your grammar is so poor that I can't tell if you're a clever Mexican or a stupid American

>>63994687 (OP)
Did your dream weapon DISRUPT the market!, though?

>>63994740
Nobody is making money off these 99 euro air pistols, that's more or less what it costs to manufacture them. He has other reasons to sell these. Just start handing them out.

You can 3d print the entire design, legally there's no propellant, and no bullet, and in many jurisdictions pellet guns are not registered individually anyway so anyone with a gun liscence of any kind can usually possess one without registering it.

It has features. You understand? Features you can't get for 99 euro, features you cannot buy at all. It is a very special air pistol.

So what is it, a fishing gun repurposed for parlor tricks? I do enjoy the concept of making firearms laws pointless with hardware store projects but a CO2 spike gun isn't new, this one just happens to be multi shot. If he wants to market this thing, he should orient it more towards scuba hunters.

>>63994749
It has the feature of looking like a gun, which is all a cop needs to arrest you, or shoot you.

>>63994750
It is a co2 spike gun, yes.
But it can hit groupings on a man sized target at 30 metres, penetrate 4 inches of ballistic gelatin, 1A kevlar, and pierce hard targets like plywood, thin metal, a coconut. So it's a pretty good c02 gun and can send off 6 rounds in two seconds. Especially with non standard projectiles that's important because their terminal ballistic effect can be mixed.

But that's not why this exists, go back to the p11. What are is features?

>>63994765
If you want a cop to shoot you, it's better then holding a banana, yes. Maybe you paint it like a nerf gun, my little pony, I don't know. This isn't something you buy because your can't get a gun, it has features. Features a gun doesn't actually have. It's a special purpose weapon and the German special forces were very interested in its very special features

What did the p11 actually fire /k/. Come on, do not be stupid. Ukraine threads have melted your brains. Eat crayons, become stupid.

If you had one of these, what are the first things you would do with it. Stupid things. Think of the stupid things you could do. Stupid crayon eaters, it's your stupid brains

Look, another underwater gun. Come on /k/

DM91 German armour piercing discarding sabot in 9mm parabelum. That's the German designation.
So what would the German designation of the p11 surface ammo be? Think like a German.

What goes on the p11 handle? Not co2. Battery. Battery doesn't fire bullet. No. Why is the battery there? Crayons.
What is the co2 actually for? To fire darts? No. Fire anything. Maybe. What does the p11 fire? Maybe fire something like the p11 fires? Something like the DM91, something classified which would obviously be in-between.

Germans are being so autistic that their secret ammo had the same matching numbers so any non autistic person can be guessing just because of the numbers. Same numbers. Autistic Germans.

>>63994750
Germany limits airguns to a pitiful 5.5ftlb, anything over that requires an actual firearms license.
Working within those limits joerg found that some decent penetration effect (and, provided the right spots are hit, lethality) can be had by firing blowgun darts, as that kind of energy, low as it is, is still 2x-3x the force of a good lung-blown dart. so he designed something around it, to give every german an affordable, somewhat effective means of defense. it's no 9mm but certainly better than lobbing slow lead pellets.
I do doubt some of his claims like it "stapling muscles to the bone, thereby preventing motion", but all in all it's a noble goal and an affordable, interesting little pistol.
of course german lawmakers are screeching about it (how dare the peasant be able to defend himself from the fruits of our wondrous diversity™) and may ban it before it even releases, in whatever draconian gun law they pass next.
i unsubscribed from one of his channels (not the main one that's getting a slingshot focus again) recently, not out of dislike for his content and business but because with things like this it became a constant reminder of germanys continued downward trajectory.
>>63994687 (OP)
>>63994749
I honestly don't know quite what you're implying. that they're working on a secret tungsten dart armor piercing variant? or a revival of the heart attack gun? something internally suppressed like the Soviets did? first of all this thing is based off pressurized C02, which is less ideal than pressurized air because it only reaches 80bar instead of 300, and second you can't make shit like airtight valves on a printer.

>>63994750
Proving the point that energy is a dumb way to limit weapons by making an absurdly low energy projectile that can still stab very deeply into meat.

>>63994842
As I recall his low energy needles were actually much thinner and longer than normal blow darts.

>>63994769
I'm sure the needle would go deep into flesh but people really need to stop using gel to test things other than bullets. It reacts totally differently.

>>63996500
for what it's worth he also put fabric over meat and bone and shot at that

>>63994794
>Think like a German

I can't think in arabic sorry

>>63994687 (OP)
Sanitize your links faggot
Nobody click that

>>63994794
>Think like a German

I can't think in kurdish sorry

>>63994786
>26.5mm CCCP crossbow bolt insert thing
...I'm sorry, what the fuck is that?

>>63994749
>You can 3d print the entire design
No, you cannot print the pieces required to puncture the c02 cartridge and contain the pressure without leaking.

>>63996688
You actually can, mr luddite but even if you couldn't you can buy airfitting at the hardware store for literally pennies.

>>63996834
You absolutely cannot. Pla will break if you use it to puncture the seal on a c02 cartridge
>just go buy the fitting at a hardware store
Oh cool, now I have to design it myself, and completely remodel the plastic pieces in autocad to accept the pressure chamber? This is a cartridge piercer, its a hollow needle. You can't do this with pla, and anyone with the knowledge to make this themselves could literally just design and make a firearm, which is easier to make than an airgun.

>>63997497
>Pla will break if you use it to puncture the seal on a c02 cartridge
Dude get with the times. Pla++ and reinforced mediums have existed for literally a decade now. No one is printing with normal PLA anymore unless you're printing funkopops. It's hilarious to me how everyone who tries to shit on 3d printing brings up problems that were solved in 2012

>>63994765
I thought Euro cops didn't shoot and that was just a burger thing
We know they like letting Muslims get all stabby and rapey so as not to appear racist

>>63994842
Did he get those air powered "arrow shooters" banned? I remember seeing a video about them where he explained the loophole that allowed the to be sold in Germany but then he's never mentioned them again.

>>63997896
Cool, then you should have no problem showing me a c02 powered gun of some sort that's 100% printed with no additional parts? I'm looking forward to it.

>>63994694
You need Ritalin. You brain is having problems remaining focused.

>>63994687 (OP)
Last video I saw of him was he became an EU zog. Hope he blows his brains out.

Sorry if I wasn't clear.
What makes this pistol significant is that it is designed as a SPW, a special purpose weapon.
Like the p11 you can change out the barrel clusters, so when you are using non-standard barrels your 99 euro air pistol can fill a number of distinct roles.

The first and most obvious is firing poison darts, anyone can dip their dart in a toxin, ricin would be the average toxin, ideally you would use a paralytic because outside 10 minutes asphyxiation is 100% fatal. The penetration of the darts and firing 6 silently in 2 seconds works with that. it's an upgrade of throwing HIV syringes at cops.

Second use case would just be using the co2 as a spring to fire a conventional round, probably a Minnie ball.
But you could do this with a suppressor, and someone with this MO could do huge damage to CCTV in an hour, break a lot of glass.

Third use would be EWS, using it to project a utility device, a fiber wire to pull a large rope, a compact camera, johnny English.

fourth would probably be putting a conventional rocket motor into ballistic trajectory, for a related purpose.

fifth, to fire flares, which are now digitally detectable over UVF. so small flares can be detected miles away.

sixth, to fire liquid chemical agents of tandem solid/liquid charges. aerosols blow back on the user and you cant walk around in CBRN on the london metro. you just use it as a six shot water pistol.

seven, as a taser. a FC tool, something non lethal you can offhand to subdue someone who you'd rather not shoot. you could picatiny a conventional tazer onto it.

And these are things you actually couldn't do with a fixed barrel air pistol, just because of the barrel, or the limitations of loading up follow up shots.
Darts are not reliable, they bend at strange angles, deflect off target, get stuck in soft barriers, so firing 6 in quick succession is of real value.

And conceptional fixed barrel air guns are usually unable to accept higher chamber pressures. this one is rated for 6 or something but proofed for 12, could probably go higher. so if you loaded butane, oxygen, nitrogen, whatever you'd get a lot more utility out of it. that's what an SPW is, a utility weapons.

personally I would have designed it with interrupted thread to attach the barrel cluster, fire it from a fixed zero (like the p11), and use a dif lock on the gas. there's really no need to rotate barrels, it would become very hard to CC. way smarter to rotate a gass lock then the rotate the entire barrel cluster. shorten the weapon by 3 inches.

>>63998644
yes. they're still being worked on and produced for other countries last I checked (check out the FX Redback, nicknamed "Gatling" due to having 8 spinning barrels) but in gemrany the over-the-barrel arrow shooters are no bueno as of a few years ago.
But what he realized is that the AirRinger two-shot arrow shooter pistol could be repurposed as a harpoon gun which are explicitly largely unregulated, and so he did, producing the nearly-identical ScubaRinger.
then they said "akchually the scubaringer is too weak to be used as a harpoon gun" (yes, in this moment of abusrdity they wanted to ban something from being freely sold because it wasn't powerful enough) which he not only disproved vuia testing, thus keeping that first model legal, but also came out with the improved ScubaRinger2, which has like 60 instead of 40 joules, and, since it was a harpoon gun now anyway, dispensed with the tedious over-the-barrel principle and just shoots projectiles through the barrel the normal way.
and then he made the ScubaAshinger, which is pic related. Far larger cartridges, this one does over 200J of energy per shot and fires significantly larger harpoons/arrows too.
i find this system these devices all use quite interesting, the power is kept in the cartridge by a metal disk, and once that disk is pierced by a needle the pressure releases to fire the shot.
>>63999410
very creative but I think it's basically all a load of hokey. just as an example, load that thing with a minie ball of the barrel's diameter and it's gonna fly really damn slowly and weakly. it's really limited in power as mentioned before. and are you jsut supposed to light the flare first? theres nothing about a co2 powered thingy that generates heat when firing, quite the opposite in fact.

>>63994765
>Euro cops
>Shoot you
With what?

>>64000816
tweet something racist and watch the gas masks, g36s and mp7s appear as if from thin air