Strela-CK

>>63997262 (OP)
It uses a laser proximity fuse, fine for manned aircraft, but with only 8 emitters the effect of miss distance on the ability of the missile to detect the target and detonate is pretty significant.

>>63997262 (OP)
>miss your shot
>refuse to elaborate
>leave
>get droned

>>63997262 (OP)
i keked

Would have cropped "funny" memes to fit better quality in 25s video instead, but I am working.

>>63997262 (OP)
Strela has an on-board seeker right? Why the fuck is it flying such a weird trajectory, thing looks like it's using half-rect or something instead of proportional navigation, and why does it look like it doesn't maneuver until after the boost pulse is over and the sustainer kicks in, it's a short ranged system, surely it can pull right off the rail

>>63997275
>w-well if the khokhol drone was larger and less nimble it would've totally hit it that's what it was made for it's not fair otherwise

It's been like 3 years of making excuses for all this shit systems, man, aren't you tired at this point? Besides, it was most likely not even your usual drone used for observation but some fixed wing (probably Western) ISR UAV (probably why the blur), so as close to whatever the fuck Strela was designed for as it gets.

>>63997311
>Why the fuck is it flying such a weird trajectory
Bang-bang control. Look it up.

It sound crude and Grugg as fuck in theory but in practice it works well enough....usually.

>>63997262 (OP)
Holy shit, a MT-LB spotted in the wild, I though they were extinct.

>>63997275
Lots of proximity fuses aren't sensitive enough for drones, they were made in the 80s and no one expected 2ft long targets made of foam or wood.

>>63997307
>I am working
So the meme-production department is sepperate from you current assignment at the shitpost center?

>>63997487
He is only relying the the actual facts, he didn't defend the system in the slightest. Why are you so personally invested?

>>63997519
Because they (Russia) aren't allowed to give their enemy (Ukraine) credit for either agency or competence. It HAS to be those Anglo-Saxons behind it (blaming themselves for retarded failures is acceptable, too) otherwise almost a century of propaganda painting Hohols as hillbilly swine-hearders in need of protection and guidance from their big brother Moscovite falls apart.

>>63997517
Meme-production is my little hobby nobody should know about.

Poor Strela 10, it never got a good fuze because russian are retarded.

>>63997496
I know what bang bang is, I'm not talking about the wiggles in the flight path, I'm talking about the overall flight path. The guidance part, not the control part of GNC

>>63997509
Radio proximity fuses at least don't have blind spots that get larger as the miss distance increases, or at least AFAIK they don't

>>63997275
>fine for manned aircraft
kek

>>63997671
The problem with RF fuses is they rely on radar reflecting material and were originally tuned for aluminium skin not foam or plastic on wood.
I'm sure you can switch out a couple of resistors to make it more sensitive but it's going to take time and money to do that to every MANPAD is stockpiles.

>>63997262 (OP)
>Strella can be clearly see coming toward drone
>400ms-500(max with mk2)
>Javelin top speed 420ms
Could you theoreticaly reacts and dodge the missiles at that speed?

>>63997519
>He is only relying the the actual facts
Like the claimed performance specs? kek

>>63997487
>>63997746
This has to be some kind of retarded falseflag or a retard given that >>63997275 is clearly critical of the strela's proximity fuse with regards to its performance against drones

>>63997738
I don't have it with me, but there was an old video from syria/Iraq where a parked pickup dodges an incoming ATGM.

>>63997738
It has guidance you retarded frogposter, you can react, but the missile will react to you, and generally speaking you can't outmaneuver a missile that's still under thrust.

The cuckold tried to do something, but failed

>>63997769
The drone outmanuevered the missile though

>>63997262 (OP)
I've have met man (drone) that could outsmart missile

>>63997769
>generally speaking you can't outmaneuver a missile that's still under thrust
Sure you can, i do it in ace combat all the time

>>63997839
It did not, missiles always have a certain miss distance compared to the aim point, when the target is a couple feet across at the very least (as is the case in regular aircraft) that isn't very noticeable, but with a drone that miss distance means it'll fly right by if it doesn't fuse.

>>63997275
Laser proximity fuzes for anti air missiles are more sensitive than RF fuzes, so it should've gone off as they generally will detonate around 5-8m from the target. The entire point of laser fuzes is to make missile more reliable against cruise missiles and other small targets so the only thing I can see happening here is a fuze failure for one reason or another

>>63997262 (OP)
New Arma update is crazy

>>63997502
>Holy shit, a MT-LB spotted in the wild, I though they were extinct.
Seems like this one was converted into a Chaparralski.

>>63997262 (OP)
>the guy in the back getting cut in half by the jet
Jebus

>>63998067
they're fine so long as the miss-distance of the missile is small enough when compared to the size of the target such that the dead zones between the lasers isn't a problem. when the target is the size of a small drone the probability that a beam will intersect with one of the lasers decreases drastically with miss-distance. it could also be a matter of sensitivity, in terms of the threshold of how long and how much power needs to be reflected to set off the fuze, but that kinda circles back to the probability of the target intersecting the lasers, the lower that probability, the lower the probability of you reaching that threshold. Cruise missiles are small, sure, but they're still massive relative to drones, and with the miss distances of modern missiles you can be pretty comfortable with the probability of the fuze being triggered, not the case with a small drone.

>>63997738
When you're ready, you won't have to.

>>63997262 (OP)
Why tf are they riding on top of AA?

>>63997262 (OP)
>"My turn."

kek

>>63997275
hit to kill seems to be the best way to go now for munitions.

>>63997275
>it would hit if the hohol drone was a civilian airliner
yeah

>>63998572
Not really. A lot of drones and lighter missiles are too small to reliably hit. Starstreak performance versus drones and missiles is worse than that of Martlet, despite Martlet being significantly slower. And it all comes down to Martlet having a prox fuse versus SST being hit to kill.
Hit to kill is better against large cruise missiles and ballistic missiles.

>>63998636
>Starstreak performance versus drones and missiles is worse than that of Martlet
You have any kind of data to prove this, or are you just lying?

>>63997502
the video is old, probably from 2022 or 2023

>>63998717
This is a fresh vid

>>63997290
Proof?

>>63997262 (OP)

>>63999059
Did... did he just throw it into his own trench?

>>63997262 (OP)
How's porkroast going? Oh yeah, "didn't even need it" incoming soon.

>>63999059
This is some unknown technology shit, just snap the rotors instead of bashing UXO against a tree.

>>63999059
>what loud thing?? me smash against tree!
he's sooo close to figuring out using tools. He's like, 3-4 IQ points away from figuring out how to break things with rocks.

>>63998095
Strela-10 is based on the MT-LB hull retard

>>63999065
>t.
Syria's will have burnt through 2 governments by the time russia takes that town lmao

>>63998636
i've seen many videos of russian hit to kill or functionally hit to kill (impact and graze fuzing) stuff against various sized drones and they seem to work well.

>>63999098
How many governments Syria has to burn through until Ukraine gets Novorossiya back?

>>63998067
>>63998124
And for this reason gun or directed energy based systems need to be brought back.
>Detection
>Gun/Laser/Microwave array gets locked on target
>Programmable or regular prox fuze shot at it/Laser lights it up/Microwaves fry it

Try to use sledgehammers to hammer in a staple is not going to work and now everything has to adapt.

>>63999107
Probably about the same number desu

>>63999107
How many governments Pussiya going to burn until it get Kherson?

>>63997519
>slavaboo constantly jumps in (first post btw) to defend/justify his subpar equipment
>so tiresome he actually gets called out once in a blue moon
>a-akshually i-it's you who are too personally invested!

>>63997762
>clearly critical of the strela's proximity fuse
>i-it was not meant for whatever they keep missing (but no we just won't update and keep using it) i-it's fine for whatever they do manage to hit s-see?
dumb pidor, this sort of "da commandant is worked totally great except one smol detail: it didn't but is not my fault pls no broomings" only works on your kind and turdies (but i repeat myself)