Is there a reason why PTR chooses not to blue their G3s? it'd make them look exactly like original HK91 and have that aesthetically pleasing look.

>>63997680 (OP)
Probably because HKs are painted, not blued, and they do make them.

>>63997680 (OP)
Because they know why bother. None of these PTRs will ever see combat,unlike actual G3s so might as well pocket the change

Because G3s are absolute shitrods

>>63997693
Agreed

>Rhodesia replaced their FAL for G3
>Rhodesia subsequently lost the war

>>63997680 (OP)
Because actual G3s weren't blued.

You already made this thread

>>63997706
they had shiny black finish

>>63997697
>>63997709
Why do this?

>>63997787
for the lulz obv

>>63997696
Even fucking iran is replacing their G3s

>>63997796
They're just thirdworld trying to copy america

>>63997798
>copying america

>>63997830
i dont know what that is and don't care

>>63997833
>I don't care
>but I still care enough to reply

Spoken like a true 13 y.o

>>63997693
G3s are superior to the FAL proven by their service history. No one uses FALs anymore because of it's retarded design

>>63997874
The FAL is also a complete shitrod. Battle rifles were a mistake. A result of retarded boomer procurement processes.

>>63997693
>>63997696
>t. shitskin Manlets

>>63997680 (OP)
Who cares? Now tell me why they don't offer 6.5 Creed, .300 blk and 10mm chamberings.

>>63997916
Because the demand isn't there.
>>63997693
>>63997696
>>63997796
>t. Can't handle the Aryan Man's rifle

>>63997974
You think if they offered a 6.5 G3, a .300blk 32 and a 10mm MP5 clone people wouldn't jump on it? There is literally no competition.

>>63997974
>>63997986
They made .243s initially which is weird but cool.

>>63997986
And I guess .300 blk would be a 63 but with pistol/"PDW" offerings like they do with 32.

>>63997988
That is weird and cool.
I like when companies make .243 semiautos, it's so out of left field. Pic related, Vepr in .243

>>63998035
The Finns did too. I have a Savage in .243, great round for teaching new shooters "long" range.

>>63997988
They need to bring this back

>>63997715
>>63997680 (OP)
Original G3s were parkerized. Parkerizing is neither shiny nor (really) black. You can still buy surplus BW G3 parts and see for yourself.
I think you're experiencing some form of Mandela effect.

>>63998386
Actually now that I think of it you're probably getting confused by the mags, but these are aluminum so it's only natural their finish won't match the rifle.
>inb4 this one is worn out
Even mint ones aren't shiny or black.

>>63998390
G3 mags came in steel and aluminum
t. Bought a dozen of both when they were $4 and $3 each, respectively. My oldest is a '63.

>>63998399
Yeah but steel G3 mags are also parked so they'd actually match the rifle.
Most people will be familiar with the aluminum ones (they're a lot more common, at least here).

>>63997911
>shitskin
The only militaries still use G3 unironically are Pakistan, Greece, Saudis and Kenya, rhe definition of "shitskin"

>>63998411
Don't forget Turkey.

>>63998411
Doesn't mean you aren't a brown bitch.

>>63997974
>aryan rifle
>used exclusively by turdie brownoids

>>63998512
That's just the fate of all surplus.
Don't ask where all the hundreds of thousands of surplus StG-44s went.

>>63997906
Which is why we're going back to battle rifles after realizing we need range overmatch as a modern nation capable of using air assets properly.

>>63998418
They already replaced them with their fancy HK417 with G3 mostly relegated to secondary duty

>>63998419
Show hand and passport

>>63997906
Battle rifles were not a mistake. The FAL is a shitrod, barely better than M14.

>Muh shitrod
FALs and G3s are being used in Ukraine, by the way.

>>63998650
I assume shittod is in reference to FALs being 4 MOA at best. They are otherwise great rifles.
Pretty sure service G3s are 3 MOA.

>>63998651
FALs can be 2 moa with proper ammo and none of these guns are oriented around precision shots. People are shooting 8-20 moa in a combat situation to begin with when you're suppressing.

>>63997680 (OP)
Can you post a blued HK91 so we can see how it looks?

>>63998640
amerigolem hands typed this

>>63998058
That forend is sexy.

>>63998740
>American shits on M14
I am dying to hear your logic.

>>63998651
By type and contract. Realistically and after a decade in service both are lucky to be hitting 1 MOA more.
Some anon posted about his EBR in Afghanistan getting 8 MOA at best.

>>63998750
>FAL is barely better than M14
>y-yeah, M14 is is jUsT aS gOod as the FAL, that's why no countries used it besides the United States of Israel
M14 is a pos and doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as the FAL or the G3

>>63998770
M14 is a POS. The pastaniggers made it barely usable.
The FAL put in work, but it is inherently inaccurate and most models were retardedly too long. It's only advantage over G3 is control ergonomics.
And then there is the AR10 BTFO all of them but not adopted.

>>63998782
AR-10 is a jammomatic and parts are fucking all over the place, its a very mediocre battle rifle.

>>63998657

>>63999328
>>63997680 (OP)
Lol that's not bluing, that's paint on top of parkerizing, just like on the MP5.
The OP is a faggot as per usual.

Serious question: why do people not like G3s/PTRs? I get the "hurr durr Boomer battle rifle" meme, but I think their reliability is proven. They are more expensive than an AR, yeah, and there aren't a lot of options for accessories, but sometimes what a man wants is a simple, powerful gun that will run.

>>64001188
The charging handle is awkwardly placed and the lack of a last round hold-open are legitimate criticisms. If not for the '86 import ban HK91s would never be as expensive as they are today; it's just a bunch of welded sheet metal. PTR specifically's quality control has become worse ever since JLD left the company in 2010.

>>64001188
Weak and or manlets, it’s a big gun for a normal size male of 6’1 or greater size, I have a friend that’s 6’4 and he makes a full size look like a long barreled MP5, while if I give it to my 5’6 friend, he looks like a little kid with his dad’s service weapon. I find mine a bit more comfortable and less complicated than my FAL I built, but I still enjoy that as well.

>>63997906
>boomers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g

>>63997988
>>63998035
>>63998058
It's an interesting thing but .243 eats barrels like fags eat ass, and there isn't much of a chance to get a replacement barrel so it's best for just collecting. Plenty of other. 243 options to abuse instead.

How much do you think this would go for now? Asking for a jew.

>>63998651
If you want fine precision, then stock infantry rifles are the wrong choice, they are only as accurate as they need to be.

>>64001188
I think they're a good clone of a classic battle rifle, but just from a pragmatic perspective they have shit manual of arms.

>>63997787
(You) farming, it's a lonely world for some folks

>>64001188
They're not expensive so not exclusive, they shoot 7.62 NATO which filters weaklings and people afraid of spending money on ammo, they're not used by any "cool" units anymore outside of third world police deathsquads. Compare it to the SCAR and you can see why people drool over a 3 grand 3-4 moa plastic gun

>>63997906
>Battle rifles were a mistake

Nah, they were just slotted into the incorrect role as a service rifle when really they excel at being a DMR once you unshittify them

>>64001188

I was issued a G3 in my time in the Norwegian Army. They were good guns as such; sturdy, reliable even in arctic conditions, simple, downright fun to take apart. The army have phased them out after more than 50 years of service for good reasons though; the ammo was large which reduced capacity on all levels, the gun was simply too long for vehicle transport, the iron sights were crude, and there were no mounting options for extras - if we had been issued any that is. I have since fired the 416 and it is a dream to work with in comparison. I will always have a fond memory of my G3 but it is obsolete now. Although surely it would still give good service under the right conditions and with at the very least a mount with a scope.

>>64005568
Que?

>>63999643
the fuck is "E"? you know what, it's good that H&K started painting bullets instead of letters

>>64007466
Einzelfeuer.

>>64006240
That guy looks like Tom Berenger.

>>63998656
>FALs can be 2 mo
[Extremely loud incorrect buzzer]

>>64008087
Shoot match ammo, stop believing slop memes based on the cheapest M80 ball you can find.

Alright just because Ive seen this thread not only shitting on the pos M14 but also the FAL, AR10, and G3as rifles whats an example of a good battle rifle

>>64008294
>whats an example of a good battle rifle
The FAL and the G3.

>>64007532
Gesundheit

>>64008087
My L1A1 is pretty accurate. I shot a pretty tight group when sighting it in with some saltech ammo.
>>64008321
>>64008294
They're all good. Its just important to manage your expectations with a 70 year old design for an infantry rifle. People here are just no-guns miserable contrarians. I've owned all of the big three and liked them all.

>>63997680 (OP)
PTRs parkerization is correct. If you wanted the paint, the A3S has this, but honestly the park is better.

>>63998626
Stfu boomer

>>64003634
>they shoot 7.62 NATO which filters weaklings and people afraid of spending money on ammo
Oh, you're one of those "M-16 was infinitely better than M-4" boomer wanna-bes. Opinion discarded.

>>64008807
Where'd you come up with that asspull weakling?

>>64008807
Did you mean to reply to another post?

>>64001188
I think they just have less cultural cachet than other battle rifles.
The FAL has the whole "right arm of the free world" thing, the Rhodesia thing, and was the service rifle of most of the English-speaking world (outside the US obviously) so it's got a lot of fans.
The M14 has the Garand heritage, the traditional looks, legality in ban states, and saw half a century or more of US service. (Albeit very limited for most of that.)
The SCAR and AR-10 derivatives have modern features/manuals of arms, are in current service, and have been in a billion vidya etc.
The G3 is way behind. Outside of the general HK memes and the occasional movie or vidya appearance it's comparatively obscure.

On a more practical note though, I think the G3 loses some popularity because of the roller-delayed system as well. It results in heavier recoil than its competitors and it's also known for tearing up brass, I'm not sure how many people actually reload .308 but I often see that cited as a reason people don't like them.

>>63997696
You can’t win the war of demographics

>>63997693
ok nogunz