Why don't we hear about "weapons of mass destruction" anymore? What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?

>>63999252 (OP)
Just because you don't hear about something does not mean it isn't being discussed.

>>63999252 (OP)
>forgets the bombing of Iran
Holy fuck brainrot is real.

>>63999261
>>63999264
I'm asking why we don't hear that terminology anymore.

>>63999264
Or the weekly "riot control" grenades used in Ukraine

>>63999252 (OP)
unchecked immigration

>>63999273
Can you point me to a news article or press briefing or hearing in which the phrase "weapons of mass destruction" is used to describe those grenades?

>>63999270
You are a retard and may god have mercy on your soul

>>63999280
So you don't know why? It's okay to just say that, little buddy.

>>63999279
Nigga what the fuck do you call using chemical weapons that spray in a gaseous form

>>63999252 (OP)
Its very much a Bush-era phrase with a bunch of baggage related to that, so it was retired. Like when Syria used gas it was just called chemical weapons, or Iran trying to get nukes was just nuclear weapons. Its a little like global warming, people got tired of hearing that term and it was tied to a bunch of shit al gore said that never materialized; so they swapped it for climate change to make it more palatable.

>>63999284
Sorry, maybe I didn't explain myself well enough. My question is about why official messaging using the terminology "weapons of mass destruction" has become non-existent compared to when we were kids/teens in the 2000s. It's very strange to me, since obviously the weapons still exist, but the verbiage does not.

>>63999286
That makes sense. Which weapon of massive destruction do you find most interesting? Sarin gas seems very terrifying to me.

>>63999290
Because "weapons of mass destruction" means nothing anymore to regular people.
2 decades ago it was enough to move the world now with major countries threatening nuclear war over nothing people lose interest in worthless words

>>63999252 (OP)
You don't need pretext for mass murder anymore.
You can just do it openly now for no reason.

Dirty b0mbs seem like a sleeper wmd. Have it as dirty as possible and pollute the largest fresh water lakes, and aquifers. Country is ruined forever.

>>63999307
Are you saying that they don't even need to manufacture consent anymore?

>>63999292
Chlorine trifluoride, its a substance that cant be put out once it starts burning, and dousing it with sand or water just adds fuel. WW2 ended before it could be used, but it would essentially be an incendiary that melts concrete and a toxic gas all in one.

>>63999314
Look at how gas was talked about in ww1.
Not how it was used but talked about.
It is always crying about how the other side is just using it, not necessarily crying about how deadly it is (obliviously it's still effective)

>>63999322
Why did we end up using napalm instead of that in "Nam? Easier to control the burn?

>>63999327
napalm is super cheap goop

>>63999290
>has become non-existent
Anon, it was a one time thing. A single specific event in history. The term wasn't in common use before then either. You're basically asking why fads exist.

>>63999302
The words that scare people change. Before "weapons of mass destruction" it was things like "gas" and "nuclear bombs". Go back far enough in history and it was things like vikings, mongols, or turks. Now it's "climate change" and "covid". In a few years it will be something totally different.

>>63999331
I used to mix styrofoam cups from the gas station with gasoline with my buddies in high school and then set it on fire. We were creating weapons of mass destruction?
>>63999332
Well, that time in history was my formative years, and it seemed ubiquitous.

>>63999337
>We were creating weapons of mass destruction?
IDK is making homemade napalm illegal in India?

>>63999341
Sorry, were we*. I'm from Peoria, Illinois. I can take a photo if you want.

>>63999290
> My question is about why official messaging using the terminology "weapons of mass destruction" has become non-existent compared to when we were kids/teens in the 2000s
Then it's not really weapons-related you dumb fuck faggot

>>63999347
That was just a lead-in to the actual thread topic, which is what everyone's favorite "weapons of mass destruction" are.

>>63999252 (OP)
because they don't need the support of the country to perform jew jihad anymore

>>63999327
Fluoride is the chemical equivalent of the manic bipolar clingy crazy gf. You'll have the time of your life with it, at the slight downside of maybe losing your life because of it.

>It is, of course, extremely toxic, but that's the least of the problem. It is hypergolic with every known fuel, and so rapidly hypergolic that no ignition delay has ever been measured. It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers, not to mention asbestos, sand, and water—with which it reacts explosively. It can be kept in some of the ordinary structural metals—steel, copper, aluminum, etc.—because of the formation of a thin film of insoluble metal fluoride that protects the bulk of the metal, just as the invisible coat of oxide on aluminium keeps it from burning up in the atmosphere. If, however, this coat is melted or scrubbed off, and has no chance to reform, the operator is confronted with the problem of coping with a metal-fluorine fire. For dealing with this situation, I have always recommended a good pair of running shoes.
- John D. Clark, rocket propellant developer (aka "the guys even the chemists think are off their rockers")

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
Hellburners, also known as explosion ships or Antwerp fire, were a pair of specialised explosive fireships built and fielded by the defending Dutch rebels in the Fall of Antwerp (1584–1585), part of the Eighty Years' War against the Habsburgs.

The hellburners were constructed by the Italian engineer Federigo Giambelli, who had been hired and subsidised by Elizabeth I of England, unofficially supporting the rebels, to assist the city.

To ensure destruction, very large charges were used. To intensify and channel the explosion, an oblong "fire chamber" was constructed on each ship, 1 metre in diameter. The bay was fitted with a brick floor, 30 centimetres thick and 5 metres wide; the walls of the chamber were 1.5 metres thick; the roof consisted of old tombstones, stacked vertically and sealed with lead. The chambers with a length of 12 metres were each filled with a charge of about 3,200 kilograms (7,000 lb) of high-quality corned gunpowder. On top of the chambers a mixture of rocks and iron shards and other objects was placed, again covered in slabs; the spaces next to the chambers were likewise filled.

The Fortuyn ran ashore on the west river bank some distance from the bridge and its, probably only partial, explosion did little damage to the Spanish forces, but the Hoop drifted along the same bank between the river shore and a protective row of anchored ships forming a raft in front of the main bridge and touched the latter near the junction of the fixed wooden shore structure and the attached ships. When the time bomb aboard the Hoop exploded, about eight hundred troops were killed, the sconce Santa Maria was devastated, and the ship bridge was ripped apart over a distance of 60 metres; the blast was heard in an 80-kilometer radius

>>63999364
>Last of all came the two infernal ships, swaying unsteadily with the current; the pilots of course, as they neared the bridge, having noiselessly effected their escape in the skiffs. The slight fire upon the deck scarcely illuminated the dark phantom-like hulls. Both were carried by the current clear of the raft, which, by a great error of judgment, as it now appeared, on the part of the builders, had only been made to protect the floating portion of the bridge. The Fortune came first, staggering inside the raft, and then lurching clumsily against the dyke, and grounding near Kalloo, without touching the bridge. There was a moment's pause of expectation. At last the slow match upon the deck burned out, and there was a faint and partial explosion, by which little or no damage was produced...

>The troops of Parma, crowding on the palisade, and looking over the parapets, now began to greet the exhibition with peals of derisive laughter. It was but child's play, they thought, to threaten a Spanish army, and a general like Alexander Farnese, with such paltry fire-works as these. Nevertheless all eyes were anxiously fixed upon the remaining fire-ship, or "hell-burner", the Hope, which had now drifted very near the place of its destination. Tearing her way between the raft and the shore, she struck heavily against the bridge on the Kalloo side, close to the block-house at the commencement of the floating portion of the bridge. A thin wreath of smoke was seen curling over a slight and smouldering fire upon her deck...

>>63999252 (OP)
it was kind of 'moral panic'.
The US public in the 90s had a very different mindset; you can see it with mainstream (forgettable) media from the time. There were assumptions of optimism & righteousness which arent held anymore.
>>63999261
Its a PR term not an industry one

>>63999368
>The clockwork had been better adjusted than the slow match in the Fortune. Scarcely had Alexander reached the entrance of Saint Mary's Fort, at the end of the bridge, when a horrible explosion was heard. The Hope disappeared, together with the men who had boarded her, and the block-house, against which she had struck, with all its garrison, while a large portion of the bridge, with all the troops stationed upon it, had vanished into air. It was the work of a single instant. The Scheldt yawned to its lowest depth, and then cast its waters across the dykes, deep into the forts, and far over the land. The earth shook as with the throb of a volcano. A wild glare lighted up the scene for one moment, and was then succeeded by pitchy darkness. Houses were toppled down miles away, and not a living thing, even in remote places, could keep its feet. The air was filled with a rain of plough-shares, grave-stones, and marble balls, intermixed with the heads, limbs, and bodies, of what had been human beings. Slabs of granite, vomited by the flaming ship, were found afterwards at a league's distance, and buried deep in the earth. A thousand soldiers were destroyed in a second of time; many of them being torn to shreds, beyond even the semblance of humanity.
>Richebourg disappeared, and was not found until days later when his body was discovered doubled around an iron chain, which hung from one of the bridge-boats in the centre of the river. The veteran Robles, Seigneur de Billy, a Portuguese officer of eminent service and high military rank, was also destroyed. Months afterwards, his body was discovered adhering to the timber-work of the bridge, upon the ultimate removal of that structure, and was only recognized by a peculiar gold chain which he habitually wore. Parma himself was thrown to the ground, stunned by a blow on the shoulder from a flying stake. The page, who was behind him, carrying his helmet, fell dead without a wound, killed by the concussion of the air

>>63999354
The history of rocketry in this country is fucking fascinating, especially when you get into the occultist shit with Jack Parsons.
>>63999364
Horrifying.

>>63999283
I think your question has merit, and I think the people making fun of you genuinely dont know.
Very common unfortunately

>>63999381
thanks

>>63999252 (OP)
Epstein Files.

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
My dick

Innocent just drop it. Sword not shield.

>>63999488
Is this someone's Project Monarch activation code?

Good call.

>>63999513
message received

why are you guys talking to a bot?

>>63999520
Which one is the bot?

I miss Tabun.
Where did it all go? is tabun no longer a WMD? Iran and Iraq got a shit load, metric tons, UNCWS never found a barrel, hague never worked out where either side got it from.

>>63999531
Gee Billy, which two countries have a history of selling weapons to both Iraq and Iran?

>>63999364
>The chambers with a length of 12 metres were each filled with a charge of about 3,200 kilograms (7,000 lb) of high-quality corned gunpowder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Relative_effectiveness_factor
> Relative effectivness
>Black powder =0.55
>TNT = 1.00
>3200 kilogram x 0.55 =1760 kilogram
So if im understanding this correctly then the dutch sent a ship with the explosive yield of 3 tomahawk missiles against the spanish in 1584? And the spanish troops just stod there havin a laugh watching said burning ship drift into them?

That is pretty impresive

>>63999252 (OP)
Technically speaking, an ass has a mass, therefore the tools of ass destruction are weapons of mass destruction.

>>63999632
now compare to 2003

>>63999555
> 3 tomahawk missiles
The 450 kg is the mass for the warhead, not the HE filling that's about 140 kg of TNT.

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
my socks

>>64000666
devilish

>>63999284
My butthole

>>63999284
Nigga it's CS gas, which you're not supposed to use in war but your own government thinn it's fine to use on you
Vatniggers aren't stupid and desperate enough (yet) to start throwing around nerve agents

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
Derivatives, rehypothecation, and the U.S. "budget" in general. I guess those I.M.F loans too.

>>63999252 (OP)
>Iran may/will/probably has weapons of mass destruction

>>63999322
>WW2 ended before it could be used
The Nazi’s gave up on the concept of CIF3 weapons before the war since even they realised that trying to use it was retarded.

It's just "Iran and NOOKS" today, the source is still Israel like WMDs were.
(They've been kvetching about it for 40 years)

>>63999252 (OP)
We literally just bombed Iran over another WMD scare you stupid fucking chimp. They said "nuke" instead of "WMD" specifically to fool retards like you

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
Cultural Marxism, AKA Neomarxism. Takes about 120yrs to completely destroy a nation from the within, but most people will never even notice it in action until it's too late to rescue a society from its grips. It's like the slow boiling frog metaphor.

>>63999354
Dafuq, so how to you extinguish it?

>>64001916
You don’t, this is stuff that burns asbestos and ash. You wait for it to stop burning, whenever that may be

>>63999252 (OP)
Why do people care about it anyway? Pakistan, India, North Korea and Israel has it and nothing happens

>>64002181
WMDs include, but are not limited to, Nukes.
Goes to show how smart the Cheney Administration were to synonymize the two concepts. It was a term specifically conceived because people weren’t scared of things that weren’t nukes but the Admin wanted to piggyback on that fear.

>>63999270
are you retarded? When they can lie about a country being close to having nukes they will, when they can't they will claim about non existant WMDs

>>63999290
>My question is about why official messaging using the terminology "weapons of mass destruction" has become non-existent compared to when we were kids/teens in the 2000s
Because everyone now knows the claims of Iraq having WMD were always fake, so if the US were to claim that again with another nation people would be skeptical
>>64001910
Call it with its real name, jewish ingerence.

>>63999264
This.
>>64001030
Based Arby's enjoyer
>>63999290
Because the group of people they randomly pulled out of a mall to gauge their reaction to buzzwords didn't score well on wmd so they went with the lame nukes approach

>>63999252 (OP)
Tiktok, Facebook and Twitter

>>64003275
They were not "fake." Troops found numerous caches of chemical weapons, often in poor condition and leaking.
Those discoveries used to be mentioned in the newspapers. Suddenly that stopped. I speculate that the change came when the lefty editors realized they were demonstrating how their China-loving hero Bill had been lying about ensuring those WMDs' elimination.

>>64003372
>They were not "fake." Troops found numerous caches of chemical weapons, often in poor condition and leaking.
No, that is pure bullshit. Feel free to post a single piece of evidence supporting your claim.
>Those discoveries used to be mentioned in the newspapers. Suddenly that stopped. I speculate that the change came when the lefty editors realized they were demonstrating how their China-loving hero Bill had been lying about ensuring those WMDs' elimination.
Nevermind, you're just a schizoid from /pol/ most likely.

>>64003372

>>64003372
>>64003611
Iraq definitely had chemical weapons, and we knew for a fact they had chemical weapons because we sold the weapons to them lmao

>>64003651
>no evidence
I accept your concession.

>>64003662
Obviously they didn't have nukes, because that was a lie we made up to invade the country. But we definitely sold them illegal chemical weapons in the 80s. That's why they pretended they didn't find any chemical weapons during the invasion.

>>64003680
chemical weapons ≠ WMD
The ones the article were referring to was LITERAL TEARGAS

>>64003696
mustard gas is teargas now?

>>64003700
Which were very old and unusable stock from their spat with Iran in the 80s.

>>64004007
Yes, that's literally what I said lol

>>64004085
that still doesn't mean Iraq had WMDs

>>64004087
Because they had already used all the ones we gave them lol

>>63999270
the term got used for iraq and they dont think they'll be able to pull it off again. you say WMD and people think the start of the GWOT.

>>64004170
Why is it a bad thing to think of the GWOT.

>>64004007
>Spat
Anon that was an eight year total war that involved the deaths of 500,000 people, with 52,000 people suffering from chemical weapon attacks. Calling it a spat is bit of a understatement isn’t it?

>>63999364
>the roof consisted of old tombstones, stacked vertically and sealed with lead

>>64001916
You remove as much fuel as possible while ensuring that it burns itself out.

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
The Internet and social media

>>63999473
>thinks those are real
Hey stupid, if those were real why didn't the Biden DOJ just release a redacted version to destroy Trump? Why dosen't Trump release a redacted version?
BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST.
Any "Epstein Files" would be so hidden or encoded that you could have them, release them, and nothing would happen.

The Epstein files were a massive psyop that you fell for.

>>64006528
Why'd they arrest him? Why'd he kill himself? Why is Ghislaine in jail?

>>63999252 (OP)
>What are your favorite "weapons of mass destruction"?
Women voting

>>64006528
I don't even know what to say, The FBI never collated a list of Epstein's and Maxwell's possible collaborators and clients? are you stupid or something? That's the core of every investigative effort. To attempt to create a case against someone for sex trafficking you have to figure out to whom people were trafficked. typically you write that down, maybe in some form of list? It makes sense that trump wouldn't release it, given his and Epstein's former relationship, but to imply that the FBI just arrested a guy with no evidence just to charge him with sex trafficking is a bit much.

>>64006637
you didn't answer their question on why additional known john's weren't released by the opposition. common faggotry. we already know DNC donors and President Clinton are "on the list". because we have the flight logs.

so 5th gen WMD or infowar could be considered here except faggotry is not weaponry nor is seething opposition cope in raw desperation to upcoming treason trials. current things can evolve into a WMD if hysterics can be pumped by an entity except in our system that entity is ourselves.

desu fungus and nanotech scare me more than retards that are easily entertained by meaningless shit in politics while actual code hits the federal registery they know fuckall about.

so mind control can be added to the list.

>>64006521
not weapons

>>64006574
>"abwooo bwoo wooo" we need to take away everyones rights so I can get my pee pee wet!

>>64007937
The funny part is the idea that voting even matters lol

>>64006528
>Hey stupid, if those were real why didn't the Biden DOJ
Because it was "national security" so they just wanted it all buried.
>Why dosen't Trump release a redacted version?
If he even gets around to releasing one as he loudly promised several times, he will probably release a redacted one, really mostly removing himself from it of course but maybe a few associates.

>>64004629
because it was mostly a waste of time and money

>>64007994
I disagree.

>>63999252 (OP)
My dick

>>63999290
Because the US gubmint predicated blowing Iraq up for over a decade costing thousands of lives a gorillions of dollars on there being weapons of mass destruction and then didn't find any and achieve nothing other than destabilizing the region so bad that the real life version of GLA spawned.

every morning from 4am to Noon EST we get inundated with these stupid threads.

>>64008044
This is a great thread.

>>64007997
the only real benefit was felling saddam, and even then the longterm damage to iraq undermined the value of the move. We tried to "denazify" Iraq far more rigorously than we ever tried to do it to germany. Turns out all the civil servants working for the regime are kinda important to keep around.

>>64006528
Are you retarded? Releasing a partially redacted list is basically the single most incriminating thing anyone could do, short of just coming out and saying
>yeah I'm on the list, and I totally fucked kids

>>64008060
>implying we ever tried to "denazify" Germany
The Nuremberg Trials were for the Nazis who refused to swear fealty to us. As long as they were willing to play ball, we let them remain in power. So not only was the post-war German government (and international European institutions) filled to the brim with Nazis, but they were the Nazis who were of such low moral character that they weren't even loyal to their own country above their own self-preservation.

>>64008102
thats my point anon, we actually tried to "De-baathify" iraq and it was a huge clusterfuck

>>64008187
Yeah, that's what I've gathered from my readings on the subject as well. The whole occupation was a clusterfuck.

>>64006570
>Why'd they arrest him?
He fucked kids
>Why'd he kill himself?
He got caught fucking kids
>Why is Ghislaine in jail?
She fucked kids too
This stuff isn't rocket science.

>>64008020
wrong

>>63999252 (OP)
Because Bush's failure of the Iraq War made it incredibly cringe.

>>64010101
Why was it a failure?

>>64010130
There were no WMDs, and it set back diplomatic relations with Iran, and it made an antagonized Iran an even more powerful regional player.

>>63999252 (OP)
Neutron bombs are my favorite. Low explosive yield, next to no fallout yet they absolutely eliminate all life 900 meters out and anything within 1500 meters would die in a few days from radiation poisoning. Meanwhile the ground would be immediately occupiable afterwards. It's the giant sledgehammer that is nukes developed into a scalpel that can be used as a tactical weapon. Polite nukes that pay a thought to the future

>>64003372
wrong, we were conned

Fuck Bush, Fuck Trump

>>63999284
Already obsolete before 1918, that's what.

>>64008102
>they weren't even loyal to their own country above their own self-preservation.
Rational self-interest is preferable to blind fanaticism

>>64011148
People who aren't loyal to their nation above all else should not be in positions of government authority.

>>64010313
HW Bush and the CIA were definitely responsible for selling chemical weapons to Iraq in the 1980s. Any "WMD"s in the country we literally had the receipts for lol. Still an unjustified invasion based on lies, though.

>>64003372
>>64003275
Issued a warning for writing the phrase "jewish ingerence" when it literally applied to the threads topic
Damn, JIDF is going full throttle

>>63999252 (OP)
Daily reminder Iraq got their chemical weapons from the U.S. and the Neocons are retarded Jews

>>64013122
True

this board is hilarious

>>64014412
Why?

>>63999252 (OP)
>Why don't we hear about "weapons of mass destruction" anymore?
What do you think the nuke of Iran is?
Same story but with different colors.

>>64015784
>the nuke of Iran
ESL