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Anonymous No.64002951 [Report] >>64002955 >>64002962 >>64002972 >>64002978 >>64002982 >>64003001 >>64003006 >>64003020 >>64003026 >>64003305 >>64003585 >>64003646 >>64003707 >>64003784 >>64004697 >>64006780 >>64006869 >>64011472 >>64016386 >>64016463 >>64016561 >>64019116 >>64019303
China's next gen military supply trucks for their ground forces has been spotted.
Anonymous No.64002954 [Report] >>64003674 >>64007014
Looks decent but I think they will regret the one piece windscreen when they are replacing the whole thing because of one bullet.
Anonymous No.64002955 [Report] >>64002961
>>64002951 (OP)
Looks like chink copy of Russian mraps
Anonymous No.64002961 [Report] >>64002986 >>64003008 >>64003017
>>64002955
Looks like a HEMTT with better breakover angles due to moving the fuel tanks and setting the second axle further back to me.
>inb4 offroad geometry makes me a chink shill
Anonymous No.64002962 [Report] >>64002969 >>64002977
>>64002951 (OP)
I dig it
but these "spots" and "unintentional" ""leaks"" of new Chinese gear are a bit cringe, they should just showcase it officially
Anonymous No.64002969 [Report]
>>64002962
Agreed, I get it for prototype fighters because you don't want to make it official then embarrass yourself like Russia with the Su-57 but for something as simple as a truck that is likely to see mass production just show it off.
Anonymous No.64002972 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
Implessive, but the REAL next gen is the next generation of WARRIOR BABIES imma make with MAVUIKA
*** BIKER COUGAR WAIFU of Worldwide Global Phenomenon, GENSHIN IMPACT***
Anonymous No.64002977 [Report]
>>64002962
It'll be showcased in the military parade set for September 3rd along other new gear.
Anonymous No.64002978 [Report] >>64002985 >>64003565 >>64003574 >>64006891 >>64020009
>>64002951 (OP)
>isn't palletized
>hight makes it a pain to load and unload by hand
so russian logistics with new gear
Anonymous No.64002982 [Report] >>64003562 >>64003702
>>64002951 (OP)
fresh off the manufacturing line and it has already soiled itself
I wonder if the rest of the design was laid out with the same care and attention to detail
Anonymous No.64002985 [Report] >>64003022 >>64003026 >>64003027 >>64003382 >>64003520 >>64003649 >>64004720 >>64006749 >>64006768 >>64014262
>>64002978
They literally took their AliExpress warehouse tech for their military logistics
Anonymous No.64002986 [Report] >>64002996 >>64003005 >>64003009 >>64020011
>>64002961
Anonymous No.64002996 [Report]
>>64002986
I see it, the chink have done better than that by having the smooth angled approach plate for sliding.
Anonymous No.64003001 [Report] >>64003009
>>64002951 (OP)
Is it a copy of a Euro vehicle this ttime?
Anonymous No.64003005 [Report]
>>64002986
Remember when pidorstanians made like 10 of them in total for parades and then lost them all in a week? Silly stuff isn't it
Anonymous No.64003006 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
>Front looks like a flat, pumpkin faced, slit eyed mongoloid
implessive plojection
Anonymous No.64003008 [Report] >>64003011
>>64002961
May I see these implessive off-road capabilities that trump the HEMTT's off-road abilities?
Anonymous No.64003009 [Report] >>64003189
>>64003001
Another copy of Rushit >>64002986
Anonymous No.64003011 [Report] >>64003031
>>64003008
As I said I'm no chink shill, I don't know how good it's going to be but the ramp over angle is better due to a smaller gap between axles in the middle.
This is why short wheel base 4WDs are more popular for rock climbing.
Anonymous No.64003017 [Report] >>64003987
>>64002961
not really
look at their airport firetrucks
they are identical
Anonymous No.64003020 [Report] >>64006891
>>64002951 (OP)
>no container-based modularity
What the fuck is this, the 1960s or something?
Anonymous No.64003022 [Report] >>64006891
>>64002985
very impressive doesn't change the fact that it's going to take half a dozen guys to unload it manually. Or load it since those armored trucks aren't going to get their load at some major logistics hub.
Anonymous No.64003026 [Report] >>64003542 >>64004607
>>64002951 (OP)
Looks cool like the Volvo 303 or what called great look I would like for a meme expedition camper I would use like a road queen.
Looks a bit like generic rescue/tool trucks. Not sure how they are supposed to load and offload goods. Memetainer and memepalletes are king

>>64002985
Pretty rational thing to do. Done right it's solid skill to have. But one big issue is that peace time and wartime logistics are world's appart.

Best solution would a army/economy deal like with the airlines.
And once again I will shill the Nordic Military-farmequipment doctrine.
Anonymous No.64003027 [Report] >>64003049 >>64003180 >>64004054 >>64004361 >>64004549 >>64006634 >>64016483 >>64016488 >>64025631
>>64002985
Nice scripted propaganda piece. It's missing lil Dong Tu Smol getting his sternum rearranged by the not human safe made in Chiner "robotics" system causing Comrade General to gulag the propaganda team for the 3 hour delay from having to scrape Lil Dong from the conveyor rollers.
Anonymous No.64003031 [Report] >>64003037
>>64003011
I don't think a heavy hauler is going to be getting high centered in the fucking Moab. If you're trying to rock crawl in a heavy transport, you're a complete fucking moran, and shouldn't be trusted behind the wheel of one.
Anonymous No.64003037 [Report] >>64003052
>>64003031
Anon they are planning for war in SE Asia. it's not going to be paved highways between FOBs.
Better ramp over helps with everything including just trees over the road.
Anonymous No.64003049 [Report]
>>64003027
triple kill
Anonymous No.64003052 [Report] >>64003066
>>64003037
>Anon they are planning for war in SE Asia.
They're planing for inner rebellion.
>it's not going to be paved highways between FOBs.
It's not going to be 3ft boulders and 60 degree incline hills, either.
>Better ramp over helps with everything including just trees over the road.
So does a chainsaw, or a logging chain to drag the fucking thing out of the way so it doesn't take you 5 minutes to carefully climb over downed trees. Also, since you say they're planning to use this off-road in SEA, I take it you've seen the testing of this vehicle and it's off-road capabilities? Post them, as I can't find shit but this nigger tier "swinging".
Anonymous No.64003066 [Report] >>64003327 >>64003473
>>64003052
Anon get on google maps and just take a look around asia, lets say you want a radio post on top of Phan Xi Păng, look at the only roads that get there.
The only reason I know this is I have spend plenty of time in far north Queensland and have seen what tropical rainforest looks like in the wet season.
>I take it you've seen the testing of this vehicle and it's off-road capabilities?
Why is it impossible to complement a solid design choice (reduce axle spacing) without retards thinking you are shilling these days? I remember all the Russia and Chink shills here but they are all 80IQ and don't understand things like ground clearance.

I haven't see it off-road, it could be shit, it could catch fire, it could be amazing and so expensive China only ever produces 5, we don't know. Based on what we do know from this one little bit off footage the better ramp over is a good design choice, the angled skid plate is a good design choice, the apparently fixed cargo bed is a shit design choice.
Anonymous No.64003180 [Report] >>64003337 >>64003601 >>64006847 >>64007042
>>64003027
This would trigger mutts like crazy
Anonymous No.64003189 [Report] >>64003324 >>64003549 >>64003601 >>64004729 >>64006547 >>64006788
>>64003009
Not the same. Btw China won't copy anyone now because they have no one ahead of them.
Anonymous No.64003305 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
It’s probably amphibious too
Anonymous No.64003324 [Report]
>>64003189
>Picture of 4.5gen
Anonymous No.64003327 [Report] >>64003367
>>64003066
>Why is it impossible to complement a solid design choice (reduce axle spacing) without retards thinking you are shilling these days?
The tinfoil fat reason would be to stop it being discussed in the west at all.
Anonymous No.64003337 [Report]
>>64003180
gotta admit that's a sick spoiler
Anonymous No.64003367 [Report] >>64003769
>>64003327
I think it's just partisan brains having an us or them mentality about fucking everything.
>you like something from A that means you fully support A
>you dislike something from A then you must be diehard B
They can't comprehend just liking something or hating something without caring which country they come from.

I fucking love the BMP-2 but that doesn't mean I would want to go to war in one or I love Russia.
Anonymous No.64003382 [Report]
>>64002985
I've been to a few of these automatic crane warehouses and in my experience they constantly malfunction, if one of these cranes shut down due to one pallet being slightly misaligned, shoddy packaging, some sensor being accidentally triggered, what have you, that entire aisle is inaccessible for several hours to days, and now you've caused a ripple effect throughout the entire logistical chain and that pallet that was urgently needed somewhere now arrives 3 weeks late.
Anonymous No.64003473 [Report]
>>64003066
i hate to be a faggot, but it's compliment. complenent means to complete a set whole compliment means to show praise.
Anonymous No.64003520 [Report]
>>64002985
>aliexpress warehouse tech
SysCo's warehouse freezers would like to have a word...
Anonymous No.64003542 [Report] >>64004531 >>64004593
>>64003026
>Nordic Military-farmequipment doctrine
That's maybe enough to support local militia for few weeks not large scale war.
Anonymous No.64003549 [Report] >>64003558
>>64003189
I can't wait to see these fuckers just explode randomly.
So fucking sick of chink shills thinking their aliexpress toy is implessive
Anonymous No.64003558 [Report] >>64003606 >>64006910
>>64003549
>I can't wait to see these fuckers just explode randomly.
Even if the started crashing randomly they'll never manage to keep up with F35 crashes which has war tier losses during peace.
Anonymous No.64003562 [Report] >>64003973
>>64002982
isnt that normal for diesel engines tho
Anonymous No.64003565 [Report] >>64003578 >>64003713
>>64002978
>isn't palletized
I guess I can't say for sure but just eyeballing the size of the trucks and the double doors on the back I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that those things have enough room to shove pallets in there. You can say what you like about their planes and missiles and shit but I don't think they'd be quite dim enough to make a cargo truck that can't load cargo, everyone's just about got that one figured out. Shove pallets in back with a forklift, pull pallets out of back with forklift and chain/strap or something.
Anonymous No.64003574 [Report] >>64003584 >>64003649 >>64003681 >>64003713 >>64004203
>>64002978
They literally have autonomous forklifters for the job
Anonymous No.64003578 [Report] >>64003579
>>64003565
Reddit pallets meme is still alive 3 years later?
Anonymous No.64003579 [Report] >>64003586
>>64003578
>Reddit
Go back
Anonymous No.64003584 [Report] >>64003645
>>64003574
That's not a forklift, it's a fucking roomba pallet jack
Anonymous No.64003585 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
those big windows are going to get fucked up by drones and high calibre ammo, the visibility is nice but it completely undermines the armor.
Anonymous No.64003586 [Report] >>64003608
>>64003579
Won't happen chief.
Anonymous No.64003590 [Report]
it looks like china is to usa what usa is to russia, like when russian boomers say they can nuke america, american boomers say we are just gonna bomb three gorges dam
i dont even like china, i actually hope all 3 countries die in a nuclear holocaust
just a intresting observation
Anonymous No.64003601 [Report] >>64003605
>>64003180
>trigger mutts
chinkmutts, yes.
>>64003189
>china won't copy anyone now
then why are they still poorly copying everything?
>they have no one ahead of them
to the contrary, pretty much everyone in the west is ahead of them, and will continue to be because chinks are bad innovators, the bodykit you posted was also invented by white people.
Anonymous No.64003605 [Report] >>64003614
>>64003601
>then why are they still poorly copying everything?
Get with times grandpa.
For most stuff there's now superior chink product it's just that those ain't cheap anymore.
Anonymous No.64003606 [Report]
>>64003558
to the contrary, the F35 is one of the safest combat aircraft in the world statistically, considering the tiny amount of crashes compared to the massive worldwide fleet and amount of flight hours.
chinkshit, however, crashes all the time, but because they do not have a western mindset, they often bury these events as quickly as possible, which sadly for them, also prevents them from learning from it as a people.
Anonymous No.64003608 [Report] >>64003612
>>64003586
>i am a redditor who came here as a tourist because i was not wanted on reddit, and i am calling other people redditors as a form of projection
yeah, we already knew that.
go back regardless.
Anonymous No.64003612 [Report] >>64003619
>>64003608
yeah and there's nothing you can do about it so just buzz off.
Anonymous No.64003614 [Report]
>>64003605
>g-get with the times grandpa
you didn't answer my question, dabbling in delusions is not helping.
>t-there's now superior chink product
then why is all the chinkshit still inferior?
you should answer the question.
Anonymous No.64003619 [Report] >>64003623
>>64003612
i can ignore you as a serious proponent of discussion because you don't belong here, and just mock you for being a fucking unironic redditor and being hypocritical enough to call other people redditors.
Anonymous No.64003623 [Report] >>64003641
>>64003619
nice meltdown...
Anonymous No.64003641 [Report]
>>64003623
>nice meltdown
yeah, you had a nice one after you accidentally spilled your spaghetti, lmao.
Anonymous No.64003645 [Report] >>64003649 >>64003791 >>64004510
>>64003584
Can forklifts or roombas also move cars around?
Anonymous No.64003646 [Report] >>64003649
>>64002951 (OP)
>enclosed bed with side opening doors
Thats going to be an absolute bitch to unload. Changs should figure out how to replicate a 463L pallet before they start huffing their own farts too hard.
Anonymous No.64003649 [Report] >>64003653 >>64003703 >>64003720 >>64003741
>>64003646
See:>>64003574 >>64002985 >>64003645
Anonymous No.64003653 [Report]
>>64003649
Yeah, because those facilities and level concrete streets are where the soft, polite act of war is going to occur.
Anonymous No.64003674 [Report] >>64003683 >>64003695
>>64002954
Honestly, a lot of APC's suffer from visibility issues. In soviet ones it's horrible (like driving over AT-mines in the middle of the road that have not even been hidden in any way). Maybe someone just thought that extra visibility (especially on such a tall vehicle) is a necessary/good thing to have?

If they are so sick of that soviet shit that they want to get rid of it? I would understand that motive.
Anonymous No.64003681 [Report] >>64003699
>>64003574

ok so? we have those in america too. most places just dont have the cash to afford them
Anonymous No.64003683 [Report] >>64003724
>>64003674
i understand where they're coming from, i just think it kind of undermines the "armored" part when the driver and guy next to him are almost completely exposed from the front to anything but small arms fire.
Anonymous No.64003695 [Report]
>>64003674
You rang? Ziggers delivered hot 'n' ready to your roof in 30 minutes or less!
Anonymous No.64003699 [Report] >>64003714
>>64003681
The thing is that they're made in China, which means that they not only matched but surpassed the US in terms of logistics
Anonymous No.64003702 [Report] >>64003973
>>64002982
It's just an exhaust port innit? Don't they normally make a mess?
Anonymous No.64003703 [Report] >>64003711
>>64003649
alright, get your roomba to download this truck. Better do it in a hurry before the fat, black person of color sitting in the American fire direction control center can fix your range.
Anonymous No.64003707 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
GG
Anonymous No.64003711 [Report] >>64003716 >>64003759 >>64007007 >>64019220
>>64003703
The US military doesn't have portable roadways?
Anonymous No.64003713 [Report] >>64003718 >>64003924
>>64003565
>size of the trucks and the double doors
I agree that they could be accessed with pallets but they aren't designed with pallets as the prime mode of loading, more as an secondary option.
the loading bed is below the wheels so it's one row of pallets and there isn't enough room on the sides to get around them to secure them ect. so they can lift the pallet up to the truck, then you to climb inside, push it back, secure the pallet, get out and do it again.
there's also no room or a variant that we can see with a forklift so you have to hope there's one at the depot and the place you are unloading at.
it's also a bit hard to judge without a proper scale but looks like it's 3-4 pallets deep due to the engine exhaust point and the side door.
that's a shit carrying capacity considering how big and heavy it is. One of those is going to have to be carrying the fuel for the others because those things have to be thirsty.
>>64003574
a) that's a pallet jack
b) there's no access for a pallet jack
c) you can just get a pallet jack that doesn't have a battery or a computer that can go haywire
d) a human operator is far more flexible
e) good luck trying to get that to unload over a uneven, unharmed surface
Anonymous No.64003714 [Report]
>>64003699
>which means that they not only matched but surpassed the US

based off of a few webms of warehouses that probably don't even use these bots and just showcase them to sell overseas?

i wouldn't be surprised if that bot has a max weight of like 200 pounds.
Anonymous No.64003716 [Report]
>>64003711
doesn't need them as it has actual paved roads
Anonymous No.64003718 [Report] >>64003728
>>64003713
>d) a human operator is far more flexible

ya until they run over their ankle, demand to see a doctor then get 5 months of light duty because the work health doc doesn't give a shit.
Anonymous No.64003720 [Report] >>64019031
>>64003649
See:
Anonymous No.64003724 [Report] >>64003734 >>64003741
>>64003683
Euros already going all-in on the monolithic glass block window. Rheinmetall Fuchs AND Patria.
My concern is more the logistics of "oh we got 1 big ass crack, now the whole front view is fucked, now we need to dray this back to the depot and swap in ANOTHER whole ass glass monolith."
>but these aren't intended to be front-line vehicles
Ohh so they're extra-juicy then, gotcha.
Stuff like this feeds into the "their choice of equipment shows you they intend to never go to war" impression.
Anonymous No.64003728 [Report] >>64003732
>>64003718
you are the changs there a billion gajilion more of you
operating a pallet jack isn't rocket science you can teach a fucking somali durka to use one just by showing and pointing

also how the fuck do you run over your ankle? the human body doesn't work like that
Anonymous No.64003732 [Report] >>64003752
>>64003728
>you are the changs
>operating a pallet jack isn't rocket science

i have several years of experience working as a safety specialist at amazon in america. people are ALWAYS getting themselves hurt or pretending to get themselves hurt and every time someone goes out to see a doctor for an injury thats an immediate 5k the company has to pay out.

>how do you run over your ankle
by being retarded and forgetting that a pallet jack carrying an entire pallet of liquid death weighs like 600 pounds has momentum.
Anonymous No.64003734 [Report] >>64003735
>>64003724
sure, but there's quite a descrepancy in size and angling with these compared to the chinese one, you can see how much smaller a target these windows are
i'm mainly worried about that.
Anonymous No.64003735 [Report] >>64003745
>>64003734
>the windows being smaller is a good thing
Anonymous No.64003741 [Report]
>>64003724
Stuff like this feeds into the "their choice of equipment shows you they intend to never go to war" impression.
that is my main thought too, all chink equipment is seemingly designed to operate in "optimal conditions" when those are barely ever accessible in a real conflict.
you can even see this with >>64003649
boasting about perfectly clean flat warehouse logistics and pretends that they are superior to being able to quickly and effectively move entire pallets on and off transports on rough terrain where autonomous forklifts would be completely incapable.
Anonymous No.64003745 [Report] >>64003773 >>64024423
>>64003735
>not getting sniped by an anti-materiel round is a good thing
yes
is the next chinese transport going to be a glass dome for optimal visibility?
Anonymous No.64003752 [Report]
>>64003732
> have several years of experience working as a safety specialist at amazon in america
I'm sorry you've had to work with people that have sub sub saharan african IQ.
the literal of the boats niggers and durkas I've had work under me managed to use them without injures
t-worked as manager at a chemicals transloading facility of katoen natie

but the point still stands, get an other guy to use the pallet jack. if it's war a twisted ankle isn't going to stop anything. and there's plenty of other changs you can get to do it for you
Anonymous No.64003759 [Report]
>>64003711
>maneuver forces can't advance because the engineers haven't laid down Marston Mats
>PFC Loqueesha in S2 notices the column of vehicles waiting for their roombas to get unstuck
>"shieeeeeet dis gon be good" she says as her pointed manicured nail hits the talk button on her radio to call for fire
Anonymous No.64003769 [Report] >>64003796
>>64003367
>I think it's just partisan brains having an us or them mentality about fucking everything.
That's certainly the non-tinfoilhat reason, yes.
It doesn't come out of nowhere though, there's so much crypto-X and false-flag Y bullshit that it's made the terminally online crowd hypersensitive to any hint of the enemy, even talking about them in anything less than a two-minute-hate fashion makes the hairs on the back of their neck stand up and they start getting an itch to noootice.

It's the same thing with the transvestigators, they're currently saying that Andrew Tate is a trans-man because he was wearing a speedo that didn't exaggerate his micropeen so they think he just forgot to put his packer in for the pic and this is the smoking gun that proves he was born a woman.
Anonymous No.64003773 [Report] >>64003776
>>64003745
>sniped by an anti-materiel round

stop basing all your war knowledge off of the ukraine war.
Anonymous No.64003776 [Report]
>>64003773
anti-materiel rounds and other things that can hit your transport truck from the front, that would not penetrate through actual armor, are not unique to the ukraine war.
Anonymous No.64003784 [Report] >>64003795 >>64009957
>>64002951 (OP)
The last 5km of logistics will be done by DJI FlyCart 100's
Anonymous No.64003791 [Report]
>>64003645
>Can forklifts or roombas also move cars around?
Man, I wonder if those are sold retail?
I'd love to have one of those in the garage just for when arseholes park badly in the street.
I could just put them somewhere neatly but slightly inconvenient, my neighbours would probably want to borrow it to do the same.
It would be so nice living on a street where anybody that parks badly gets repositioned until they learn.

Also good for working on the car too of course.
Anonymous No.64003795 [Report] >>64003842
>>64003784
we can just airdrop shit from C-130s you know
Anonymous No.64003796 [Report] >>64003820 >>64003820
>>64003769
how the fuck do you equate the board building up chink immunity to retards calling andrew tate a tranny?
it's a shame, but the end result of chinks shilling daily for all their shit is that people build up a resistence and eventually just say
>fuck you
>fuck your topic
>you're not here in good faith
because 99% of the time nowadays that's true, and most of these threads are made to get "gotcha's" and other silly shit like that rather than honestly discussing the topic, this is one of the best china thread's we've seen in a while because there was only a minor amount of chinkshill screeching, and even this one's barely tolerable.
the people that want to play the blame game as to why chinkshit is almost undiscussable on /k/ nowadays should be blaming the mentally ill schizo's that keep shitting up the board. not the people with an immune system.
Anonymous No.64003820 [Report] >>64003858
>>64003796
>how the fuck do you equate the board building up chink immunity to retards calling andrew tate a tranny?
They're both hypersensitivity to ambiguous or misunderstood observations.

>>64003796
>the end result of chinks shilling daily for all their shit is that people build up a resistence and eventually just say
That's more or less what I said, I was making a side-point about paranoia leading them into a purity spiral but it's not important.

>most of these threads are made to get "gotcha's"
AKA trolling, report them on that basis, I often do. Sometimes they get nuked, sometimes they don't.
Schizos that aren't posting blatant trolling can usually be reported for "low quality" because they usually are pretty low quality threads, sometimes for spamming or off-topic depending.
If a janny sees what is obviously the same shill they b& three days ago, they're probably just going to b& them again.
Give the system a chance to work.
Anonymous No.64003842 [Report] >>64004134
>>64003795
>Flying C-130s near the contact line for the last mile logistics
Based retard
Anonymous No.64003858 [Report]
>>64003820
>they're both hypersensitive to ambiguous observations
it's almost like chinkshills like asking extremely ambiguous, vague and and passive-aggressive questions in many of their OPs and then answer those questions with their own propaganda samefags in the thread proper, and have been doing this near-daily for many years now.
so the comparison is silly, one is trannyfolder retards looking for trannies where there are none. the other one is people rightfully building up an immunity to a known quantity of bad actors.

>paranoia
you're not "paranoid" for observing that most china related threads are started by actual literal paid and unpaid shills that have been upfront and PROUD about this in many different threads.
you're trying to push the idea that people noticing all the chinkshilling are paranoid, but they're just observant.
>aka trolling
i think having patriotic meltdowns in so many threads with extremely unhealthy time investments on the order of 8 hours of straight posting and shilling disqualifies many of them from being simple "trolls". this is clearly a way of life to them.

>if a janny sees what is obviously the same shill they b& three days ago
optimistic that you think they sit out bans, most of the named shillposters intentionally ban evade any chance they get, i wish the system would work.

anyway, i think the massive amount of clearly directed propaganda on this board understandably leaves a bad taste in people's mouths.
Anonymous No.64003924 [Report] >>64004021
>>64003713
>I agree that they could be accessed with pallets but they aren't designed with pallets as the prime mode of loading, more as an secondary option.
That's just kind of how most general purpose cargo trucks are. Designed to hold whatever and you can also shove pallets on them. A a dropside flatbed would certainly have more usable cargo space and be more handy to load than an armored van but it also doesn't have the armored van part.

And it's really not rocket science, people haul pallets of shit in vans all the time, armored or not. You push the pallets in one after another with the forklift, then either use a forklift and strap to pull them out or tell the grunts to eat shit and break em down and unload it by hand. If they don't have the equipment to pull a loaded pallet out of an armored cargo van they probably can't pull one off a flatbed either.
Anonymous No.64003973 [Report] >>64020799
>>64003562
>>64003702
Yeah, that's the most normal thing for a diesel exhaust port to smudge things up. That's why you would put it on a sensible location. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the abilities of the designers.
Anonymous No.64003987 [Report]
>>64003017
Luv me Stryker
Anonymous No.64004021 [Report] >>64004059
>>64003924
>And it's really not rocket science, people haul pallets of shit in vans all the time, armored or not
I agree, but those vans aren't meant to take cargo within a couple of km of the front lines.
I'd much rather be in a soft skin vehicle I can load and unload in a minute instead of 3-5 when I get within arty range. Because I want to be moving target and out of arty range as fast as possible. The thin armored skin isn't going to save you if they do start to hit you with anything over small arms or a light splattering of shrapnel.
if it's meant to be used out of arty range why bother with the armor at all? they aren't armed so if some partisans blocked the road they can take their sweet time burning you out. If you give them an armed escort they don't have to be armored.
>If they don't have the equipment to pull a loaded pallet out of an armored cargo van they probably can't pull one off a flatbed either
with the armored vans you can get tops two guys getting to the cargo. If you can't drag the pallets to the doors, gl with a full pallet that weights 1.5 tons you are going to need at least 8 guys to pass it along.
With a flatbed you can get as many hands on the cargo as you have free. Plus you can get at the cargo at the back from the sides so no need to pass things along so even if you have fewer hands you can still get it done faster.

fuck it give me semi with an elevator and four pallet jacks and I'll have 16 euro pallets out and on the ground in a minute, that's 24 tons of cargo. You'd be surprised how fast men can work those things with the proper motivation.

but all of that is probably my civie logistics mind getting things wrong
Anonymous No.64004054 [Report] >>64004113 >>64004502 >>64004602 >>64006942
>>64003027
Do they not have like a emergency shutdown buttons that will bring everything to a halt?
Anonymous No.64004059 [Report] >>64004092
>>64004021
None of what you're saying is wrong, but it's armored because it's meant to travel and do general purpose shit along with the troops where it might be at risk of stray drones/shells popping off. It's not expressly designed for going from place to place and dropping off pallets as fast as possible, it's a compromise with things like armor and general utility.

I imagine, anyway. We're all basing this off a few second long webm.
Anonymous No.64004092 [Report]
>>64004059
yea if it's meant to with the troops in the rear echelon I can understand why you'd want it with at least some armor on it.
But I'd just take a European semi with the cab over the engine and slap some armor on that.
those things can go 140 with a full 40 ton load.
just keep it to a single level of cargo and you now have 16+tons to armor the cab. That's amusing you want to still go 140km/h if you want to slow them down to just the double of your tanks you can probably put over double the armor on them. All with the bonus that the engine ect. is all civilian stuff so plenty of spares, much cheaper parts and a large pool of trained operators and mechanics.
if it's in the rear echelon so they will have at least some roads to go over so you don't need 4x4 capacity and even then down loaded they can go over grass just fine.

but yea civie thinking for a military problem
Anonymous No.64004113 [Report]
>>64004054
Ror. Rmao.
Anonymous No.64004134 [Report] >>64004154
>>64003842
>fly huge ass drone at contact line
Enjoy seeing them in fpv drone compilations
Anonymous No.64004154 [Report] >>64004185
>>64004134
Ukraine flies vampire drones all the time near the contact line for delivering supplies or bombing russian positions. Yet neither has the balls to fly anything bigger than a cessna so far ahead.
Anonymous No.64004185 [Report]
>>64004154
Vampire drones also get swatted more easily. By everything.
The "baba yaga" / vampire moniker is à propos because they fly mostly at night, for surviveability.
Anonymous No.64004203 [Report] >>64004214
>>64003574
Its chassis is so low that it seems it'd get stuck on a pebble, a doorway, or any slight change in elevation.
Anonymous No.64004214 [Report] >>64004230
>>64004203
Glad to see it has all the strengths of a regular pallet jack, then
Anonymous No.64004230 [Report]
>>64004214
See those shitty wood pallets on the right? One splinter under a wheel is going to stop that roomba in its tracks. They really should add a brush to the front.
Anonymous No.64004330 [Report]
I think I saw a few of these on Shadow Moses back in '05 or so
Anonymous No.64004347 [Report]
Those actually look pretty nice.
Anonymous No.64004361 [Report]
>>64003027
Jesus christ.
Anonymous No.64004502 [Report]
>>64004054
why would they.
Anonymous No.64004510 [Report]
>>64003645
i want the street stingray to skate around on
Anonymous No.64004531 [Report]
>>64003542
I think you misinterpreted why they are doing it.
The idea is twofold. they are cheap commercial vehicles very well proven in hard terrain and heavy loads in all seasons. No long lead times million suppliers if you go back to civ Models.


The second reason is next to no training required because every non Urban kids knows how to drive one to clear snow. Many man do it every winter. Many do Forrest work. And than you have the normal farmers.

So instead of some specialty vehicles you just use something that's proven and a substantial part of the population has some amount of experience with. And had a massive aftermarket for tools and parts and upgrades.

A common civilian tractor can use a gorillion farming tools that are useful for military stuff. Just a basics crane logger can do a extremely fast wood log emplacement. You can build a logistics hub in the mud because a tractor is made to traverse the terrain and additionally tow a plow.
Anonymous No.64004549 [Report]
>>64003027
Brutal.
Anonymous No.64004593 [Report]
>>64003542
>the most numerous style of heavy vehicles in the nation can only support a militia
Ok
Anonymous No.64004602 [Report]
>>64004054
Do you see the robots moving still? They faulted out because of chink force overload. They now need to be reset or manually jogged by a non retarded line worker via their controller interface.
This is what happens when you don't have physical guards to prevent a robot from contacting humans.
Anonymous No.64004607 [Report]
>>64003026
>And once again I will shill the Nordic Military-farmequipment doctrine.
Sorry bro but cost-effective and practical solutions don't follow the RULE OF COOL so they suck
Anonymous No.64004697 [Report] >>64004787
>>64002951 (OP)
Which prediction by Bohemia will come true next?
Anonymous No.64004720 [Report] >>64005410
>>64002985
Notice how not once does a pallet get loaded onto a truck.
The entire point of palletized cargo is so you don't have to sling around individual packages and yet they still do. They literally have a forklift put the pallet halfway into the truck so a guy can pull the individual boxes off and load them by hand. What the fuck.
Anonymous No.64004729 [Report]
>>64003189
>cg render
very cool
Anonymous No.64004787 [Report]
>>64004697
>prediction
Nigga Typhoon has been around since 2010
Anonymous No.64004795 [Report] >>64004817
Anonymous No.64004817 [Report] >>64005107
>>64004795
Are these reserved for parades?
Anonymous No.64005107 [Report] >>64005531
>>64004817
no
Anonymous No.64005410 [Report]
>>64004720
cargo cult
Anonymous No.64005531 [Report]
>>64005107
I admire the brevity and completeness of your response.
A good example of picrel.
Anonymous No.64006547 [Report]
>>64003189
it's a shitpile.
Anonymous No.64006634 [Report]
>>64003027
what a fucking retarded setup
Anonymous No.64006749 [Report]
>>64002985
Why is every video the PLA puts out so needlessly cringe?
Anonymous No.64006768 [Report]
>>64002985
>very clearly empty cardboard boxes
>whatever the hell those bundles are supposed to be
Anonymous No.64006780 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
Going with a hard body instead of a flatbed is an interesting choice.
Anonymous No.64006788 [Report]
>>64003189
That's honestly pretty nice for AI slop.
Anonymous No.64006847 [Report]
>>64003180
Why would it? I mean, I'm sure the DF-41 is very impressive to you because China only developed MIRVs in the mid-2010s but the rest of the major nuclear powers had them in the 70s
>b-but it's a road-mobile ICBM!
I'm sure the Johnson administration would have been very worried (picrel)
Anonymous No.64006869 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
Command and Conquer tier A E S T H E T I C S
Anonymous No.64006891 [Report] >>64007228 >>64009991 >>64012232
>>64002978
>>64003020
>>64003022
Actual ex infantry grunt. A soldier's logistics are rarely palletized. They're loaded and unloaded onto tonners by hand. It takes a squad about ten to twenty minutes. Simple reason is
>A forklift is not a part of the battle order. Pallets are impossible to move without them
>They're not made part of it because the solider level, you're not moving pallets. You're moving shit like Jerry cans, ammo cans, con wire, etc around. I don't even know how a forklift would reach into a tonner
>Commerical/larger logistics, like shipping overseas in a cargo crate, are occasionally palletized. But more often you just get grunts because the army has no end of men lying around
Very consistent large scale logistics are probably palletized. But at the solider level, most of your shit is hauled by hand.
Anonymous No.64006910 [Report]
>>64003558
>13 crashes in 11 years is 'war tier losses'
I think you overestimate us. I mean, even Serbia managed to shoot down 2 of our planes and that conflict only lasted 10 weeks. Thinking we'd only lose 1.18 planes per year in a real shooting war is a touch optimistic.
Anonymous No.64006942 [Report]
>>64004054
Emergency shutdown would mean lost profit. Better the commoner sacrifice himself for the greater good than worry about pesky western individualistic safety concerns.
Anonymous No.64007007 [Report]
>>64003711
What does that have to do with unloading the truck?
Anonymous No.64007014 [Report] >>64012208
>>64002954
I don't think one bullet would compromise the integrity of the entire windscreen
Anonymous No.64007042 [Report] >>64007065 >>64025646
>>64003180
I used to think all the stuff about Chinese culture/society not having the concept of empathy was just regurgitated racist 19th-century orientalism, but then someone describes the reaction Americans would have to seeing three of their coworkers horribly injured in front of their eyes as "being triggered" and, well...
Anonymous No.64007065 [Report] >>64007085
>>64007042
>Broad stroking an entire culture and race
I'm sure all Americans are MAGAtards and also flat earthers amirite?
Anonymous No.64007085 [Report]
>>64007065
Yes
Anonymous No.64007195 [Report]
IMPLESSIVE!
Anonymous No.64007202 [Report] >>64007337
Literally nobody, not even chinks can trust so much as a single dumpling in a chink market.
I legit think that chink pride is actually more delusional and cringe than even the jeets. If nothing else, they are both failures that shill their shit but jeets lie less.
chinks are thieving subhumans
Anonymous No.64007220 [Report]
I fucking wish that the chinks finally go to a war or something so they can embarrass themselves just like Puccia is doing at this very moment. I just cannot wait for all their smoke and mirror chinky copy shit and chest beating shit just blatantly fail
Anonymous No.64007228 [Report]
>>64006891
>I don't even know how a forklift would reach into a tonner
a chain and about $40 worth of steel
Anonymous No.64007337 [Report] >>64007342 >>64007391
>>64007202
Why are you bumping an obvious chinkshill thread, retard?
Anonymous No.64007342 [Report] >>64007368 >>64007391
>>64007337
you just did you it yourself, hypocritical faggot
Anonymous No.64007368 [Report] >>64008121
>>64007342
>you just did you it yourself, hypocritical faggot
First time on 4chan?
Anonymous No.64007391 [Report] >>64008121
>>64007337
>>64007342
Morons
Anonymous No.64008121 [Report] >>64008151
>>64007368
>>64007391
i saged my posts, he didn't you guys are not as smart as you think you are
Anonymous No.64008151 [Report]
>>64008121
If you post a picture sage doesn't work dumbass.
Anonymous No.64009957 [Report]
>>64003784
Strap starlink mini on top of these things and these things can go any place rural/mountain for last mile delivery system. America needs these, and I mean for civilian delivery system.
Anonymous No.64009991 [Report]
>>64006891
t.
Russian.
Anonymous No.64011472 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
They look pretty hunkered and heavy I wonder if they have jack-up suspension. You can especially see with the lowered front end that would be road configuration they are in now.
Anonymous No.64012150 [Report]
Implessive
Anonymous No.64012208 [Report]
>>64007014
>compromise the integrity
Not the problem, its the replacing of a massive monolithic ballistic glass window instead making them smaller and easier to replace when they are damaged. Visibility is improved and it looks symmetrical so easier replacement. There might be a slight taper towards the rough but I cant tell rightly
Anonymous No.64012232 [Report]
>>64006891
>I don't even know how a forklift would reach into a tonner
ratchet strap or chain around the pallet supports and drag it back until its within forking distance
>t. burger equipment operator
Anonymous No.64014262 [Report] >>64016414 >>64016443
>>64002985
>pallets
>guy in the back pulling boxes
WW3 is going to be WW2: Electric Boogaloo for China.
Anonymous No.64016384 [Report]
Implessive
Anonymous No.64016386 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
>Dollar store copy of the Russia Typhoon.
Not implessive.
Anonymous No.64016414 [Report] >>64016443
>>64014262
This time they don't have the Nationalists to do the fighting for them.
Anonymous No.64016443 [Report] >>64016452
>>64016414
>>64014262
They didn't need that when they kicked the US and the UN out of North Korea
Anonymous No.64016452 [Report] >>64016473
>>64016443
>south korea still exists
So they didn't do that lmao but nice cope chang. Your jap grandfather must be very upset with you.
Anonymous No.64016463 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
>can't even turn into a giant robot
trash.
Anonymous No.64016473 [Report] >>64016484
>>64016452
North Korea only exists because China single handedly stopped the US and UN's "Home-by-Christmas Offensive" and pushed them back to the 38th parallel. Something not even WW2 Japan managed to do.
Anonymous No.64016483 [Report] >>64016530 >>64019003
>>64003027
Anonymous No.64016484 [Report]
>>64016473
Goal post zipped by real fast there. I'm glad I'm familiar with chinese double think, it was blink and you'll miss it fast.
Anonymous No.64016488 [Report]
>>64003027
I thought for sure the robot was gonna spaz out at the end and powderize the lot of them.
Anonymous No.64016530 [Report] >>64016578 >>64018905 >>64019017
>>64016483
This is somewhere in my parent's house.
You niggers remember pic related? Hungry Hunrgy Hippos in reverse for cool kids?
Anonymous No.64016561 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
America is toast.
Anonymous No.64016578 [Report] >>64019017
>>64016530
I just realized where the melody for pic related came from.
Anonymous No.64018905 [Report]
>>64016530
>CROSSFIRE!
>YOU'LL GET CAUGHT UP IN THE---
>CROSSFIRE!
>CROSSFIRE!!!
>CROSSFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.64019003 [Report]
>>64016483
So...this is the quantum mechanics I hear about.... Implessive
Anonymous No.64019017 [Report]
>>64016530
>>64016578
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlKLC-nMJ0
Anonymous No.64019031 [Report]
>>64003720
The exasperation level in that dude kek
Anonymous No.64019116 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
They look like they were made to put out airport fires
Anonymous No.64019220 [Report] >>64019791
>>64003711
Unironically what is the point of this? It looks like it needs a fairly level dirt road to even be put down. Just for combating slick mud?
Anonymous No.64019303 [Report]
>>64002951 (OP)
HMM VERY ECONOMICAL
Anonymous No.64019791 [Report] >>64023341
>>64019220
It lowers the vehicle's ground pressure
Anonymous No.64020009 [Report] >>64020067
>>64002978
chinese are short so it doesn't have to be tall
Anonymous No.64020011 [Report] >>64020050
>>64002986
jfc all they can do is copy
Anonymous No.64020050 [Report] >>64020056
>>64020011
>jfc all they can do is copy
Counterpoint:
>Form follows function
Anonymous No.64020056 [Report] >>64020742
>>64020050
come on dawg be real
Anonymous No.64020067 [Report]
>>64020009
fair point
Anonymous No.64020742 [Report] >>64023294
>>64020056
Every APC is going to look like an APC, every tank is going to look like a tank.
Anonymous No.64020799 [Report]
>>64003973
Anon . . .
it's in the same fucking spot lmao
right behind the crewcab, there just isn't more truck on the truck to get smudged
also, of all chinknology eccentricities to "not inspire confidence", you think a stinky exhaust port is really the dealbreaker here?
Anonymous No.64023294 [Report] >>64023513
>>64020742
yeah...
Anonymous No.64023341 [Report]
>>64019791
born to shit... forced to wipe
Anonymous No.64023513 [Report]
>>64023294
I'm not saying they just wanted to build something and it coincidentally came out identical to an existing example of the type.
I'm saying that if you're building something and there's an existing example of the type, any deviation from that example is likely to be worse at the job than it.

There's a reason why the first one looks that way, a bunch of technical problems got solved by that design.
If you start from a blank page, you face all the same problems which have already been solved but you're just refusing to use what works out of pride.
Get it working first, don't deviate from the existing designs until you understand them very well, out of necessity, you have to understand the designs and problems better than the original engineers because they couldn't come up with a better solution than what they built.

It's kind of the inverse of the IT problem:
>Not Invented Here

IT companies are notorious for all writing their own task tracking/assignment/time sheeting applications, despite that solid applications have already been written and commercially published.
They don't want to pay another company to get something that it's perfectly possible to develop in-house with innate customisation.
So they make their own but they haven't spent the time and money on focus groups and user testing and don't have the history and experience to find good solutions to tricky problems, so their product is always inferior to the commercial solutions (albeit bloat-free).
In nearly all cases, they'd save money and have a better system by buying the competitor's product.
Can't do that though, it wasn't invented here so we're not using it.
Anonymous No.64024423 [Report] >>64025550
>>64003745
Calm down Jarmen.
Anonymous No.64025550 [Report]
>>64024423
Thought I read Jawman for a second.
Anonymous No.64025631 [Report]
>>64003027
In an all out war, Chinese factories may claim the most lives.
Anonymous No.64025646 [Report]
>>64007042
I like my fellow citizens and don't like when they die in front of me. Kinda crazy!?!?!?!?!