is this true? - /k/ (#64009821) [Archived: 266 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:46:03 AM No.64009821
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I asked gpt whats the most vital milittary capability and it said:
>When you strip away doctrine, platforms and weapons, the single most decisive factor in any modern conflict is information dominance—the ability to sense, understand and act on the battlespace faster than your opponent. In practice, that means an integrated C4ISR (Command, Control, Communications, Computers, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance) network that fuses data from satellites, UAVs, electronic‑warfare sensors, human intelligence and cyber‑espionage into a common operational picture.
>While tanks, fighters and missiles get the headlines, none of them matter without accurate, real‑time information and the C2 architecture to exploit it. In tomorrow’s battlespace, the side that sees first, decides first—and wins.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:47:55 AM No.64009827
I'm pretty sure it's actually having sufficient manpower and competent training over any technological toys, but nobody in positions of power wants to confront why recruitment is failing and personnel quality and morale is decreasing.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:49:42 AM No.64009833
>>64009821 (OP)
>is this true?
Hang on let me check with chat gpt
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:50:37 AM No.64009838
It's hard to say but fundamentally maybe. At the end of the day even in a third world civil war the thing that stops a lot of even successful insurgent or rebel movements is that even when not facing resistance everything just devolves into a mob that doesn't know what to do with no information or communications. You could make a case for logistics being the most important or just the simple willingness to fight. Like we saw in Afghanistan the ANA just collapsed insstantly when the US left because nobody wanted to fight but then again you have something like the vietcong that got absolutely dunked on by the US over and over again but just had the willingness to absorb losses more than the US did so they won by default even if they got militarily shit on.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:50:58 AM No.64009840
>>64009821 (OP)
And we should care about the opinion of a functionally retarded, nonsentient chatbot why?
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:55:27 AM No.64009855
>>64009821 (OP)
>all else being equal, the one thing that isn't is decisive
yeah
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:56:36 AM No.64009857
>>64009821 (OP)
Yes, information is very important. As it always has been in warfare.

But you can’t just hand-wave doctrine, platforms, and weapons like that.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:56:59 AM No.64009859
>I asked gpt
good morning sir
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:59:32 AM No.64009868
Morale.
Its morale, always has been and until we majority replace the humans involved with AI, its gonna stay morale.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:20:00 AM No.64010277
>>64009838

>dunked on
>they won by default

the Vietcong ceased to exist after the tet offensive.

it's unclear what sort of political game was played within the ranks of the north Vietnamese government, but the Vietcong were a 5th column of actual communists who would've turned Vietnam into North Korea post-war. yes, even back then people were aware of North Korea being a bad thing, therefore aware of the threat posed by a domestic insurgency once the war was over.

they most likely attacked with assurances from the NVA for material support, none of which appeared and the Vietcong lost over 95% of their organization.

also, Vietnam would go on and topple the Khmer rouge and push back a PLA invasion.

>when you kick out the French
>when you outlast the Americans
>when you destroy a 5th column of communist guerillas with a standing army of ideologically driven schizo Soviet communists
>when you invade Cambodia to finish off the remnants of the 5th column and end up stopping the Cambodian genocide
>when China launches a surprise invasion in the north and your reserve army of conscripts end up holding the line, eventually the PLA is forced into retreat

basically Vietnam won the coldwar, which means the CIA's 10D chess move worked
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:28:18 AM No.64010306
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>>64009821 (OP)
War has always been about hitting the other person while not getting hit yourself. Rocks, bows, bullets, bombs, ballistic missiles. It's all about how far and accurately you can throw that stone to hit the opponent's head.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:33:06 AM No.64010328
>>64010277
>which means the CIA's 10D chess move worked
Had the USA let the CIA just do its shit for another decade, there wouldn't have been an issue with Vietnam falling to Communism. Instead they panicked about 'le domino'. While you're right it worked, you're right for the wrong reason. The reason gommunism didn't spread (outside of Laos) was because everybody saw the destruction and death the USA put on Vietnam (and Cambodia) by associating with gommunism so they all went
>Yeah it ain't fucking worth it
And backed out of that idea. They didn't want their shit kicked in, even if they 'won'. Even fi the USA wouldn't have had the political willpower to do it. So, it worked. But had CIA and their meme groups been trusted, it likely could have worked out eventually. Essentially, Vietnam is the equiv of Russian invasion of Ukraine. Done a lot of groundwork and instead of waiting awhile longer, think you can just deal with it grand scale.

Also, the PLA got territory in the end from Vietnam, so it's technically a win.