WTF FN - /k/ (#64010722) [Archived: 9 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:15:57 AM No.64010722
fa_ar_scar-l_p01
fa_ar_scar-l_p01
md5: d9431b9a2a1aa43337fc168a5fce1c50๐Ÿ”
>be FN
>design short stroke piston rifle
>make bolt carrier group weigh almost as much as a AK's BCG
>make receiver into a tuning fork
>don't use the FAL's manual of arms
>overgas the rifle to a insane degree
>non folding charging handle
Seriously what were they smoking?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:17:42 AM No.64010732
>>64010722 (OP)
>muh heavy bolt carrier
>muh โ€œoverpassedโ€ 5.55 (LOL)
You are bitchmade. Eat more protein
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:18:32 AM No.64010738
>>64010722 (OP)
You donโ€™t have to make a decent firearm when you market as well as FN did for the SCAR.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:19:07 AM No.64010741
>>64010722 (OP)
the scar looks like it was made in someone's backyard from pieces of ten other guns
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:20:37 AM No.64010745
>>64010732
Brown.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:23:46 AM No.64010752
>>64010745
He's still right, even if he's brown
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:37:33 AM No.64010776
>>64010722 (OP)
people like to talk shit about the m7's recoil but the fucking scar 17 recoils way more than an m7 and that's with the fucking oem brake included
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:38:33 AM No.64010778
>>64010722 (OP)
Is the Scar bad now?
Replies: >>64010909 >>64012675
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:39:53 AM No.64010780
XCR-L-Std-M-LOK-9.5-BLK
XCR-L-Std-M-LOK-9.5-BLK
md5: 7df229c6dfb995ddb11aa30aa81c619d๐Ÿ”
>>64010722 (OP)
You don't need a folding CH
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:52:34 AM No.64010829
>>64010780
>not even ambi
kek it deserved it's fate
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:02:37 AM No.64010856
>>64010829
I was amber dexterous as a child so that just seems like a skill issue to me
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:16:25 AM No.64010889
>>64010745
Cope weakling
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:23:01 AM No.64010909
>>64010778
Poorfags have seethed about the SCAR since day one.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 12:12:39 PM No.64011550
>>64010722 (OP)
>design short stroke piston rifle
and their latest rifle is long stroke lmao
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 1:50:31 PM No.64011711
>>64010776
The SCAR 17 doesn't kick hard at all, what are you smoking? If the M7 kicks less than it then it must be like shooting a 5.56, which it isn't judging by the videos I've seen of people shooting it.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 2:06:55 PM No.64011737
>>64010856
*dextrose
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 2:08:28 PM No.64011740
>>64011711
>The SCAR 17 doesn't kick hard at all
correct, I have an sr25 and my buddy has a scar17 and while the sr25 does have softer recoil, there is nothing that is world changingly different. Both recoil like a .308.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 2:09:16 PM No.64011743
>>64010752
>>64010889
Reading comprehension is hard isn't it?
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 2:50:47 PM No.64011843
>>64010722 (OP)
Any serious discussion about the SCAR needs to be prefaced with an understanding of where the AR was in the early 2000s. Its long seemed to me that in their attempts to countersignal the boomer "muh mattel plastic gun got brave GIs killed in nam" fudd bullshit, a lot of people memoryholed the real issues the M4 had in its early years. These can be broken down into 4 categories. First is the barrel, the pencil barrel was overheating in sustained fire, which opens up the grouping and at high rounds counts supposedly caused cookoffs. Second is the buffer, it was too light leading to bolt bounce and parts wear which makes things unreliable; it also did not play well with suppressors. Third is lower, people often attribute the issues with the early M4 to the burst cam, and that is certainly a big part of is. Lastly is I think the most crucial, but because it wasn't covered by the PIP program, its the least discussed. Thats the magazine, the vast majority of issued mags were dogshit tilt-my-shit-up-senpai black follower mags, with only drip-fed issuing of green followers. Thats what Socom were dealing with when they started the SCAR program. And the SCAR delivered, but unfortunately it didn't do so in a vacuum and by the time it was adopted in 2010, the PIP program was in full swing (Socom barrel, heavy buffer, F/A trigger group) and everything from tan followers to actual Pmags were in wide issue; so the M4A1 was about as good as it is today and the SCAR was left redundant.
>don't use the FAL's manual of arms
why on earth would they? they were designing it for Americans, and we never used the FAL.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:32:28 PM No.64011904
>>64010722 (OP)
Heavy BCG increases reliability.
Overgassing increases reliability.
Now what they should have done is give the bolt a longer travel behind the magazine so it's not battering the receiver endcap.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 3:35:31 PM No.64011912
>>64010741
And an ugg
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:05:44 PM No.64011975
>>64010732
>>muh heavy bolt carrier
And yet somehow the gun still shakes itself to pieces, almost as if it's an under-engineered piece of fucking dogshit.

>>64010829
>>not even ambi
Ambi charging literally does not matter at all.
>kek it deserved it's fate
It's still being made and the SCAR failed to gain mass adoption
>inb4 wasn't the goal
Yes it was;
>Currently, weโ€™re actually over four years into the effort.
>The immediate goal of the SCAR Program is to replace all current assault rifles, carbines, subcarbines, battle rifles and light sniper weapons with the SCAR weapons.
Failed. Shit gun. Piece of shit. Way worse than a contemporary off the rack M4. Failed design. Poor engineering. Never fixed the stock. Never stopped destroying optics.

>>64011904
>Now what they should have done is give the bolt a longer travel behind the magazine so it's not battering the receiver endcap.
Increasing the dimensions of components is what you do when you lack engineering competence. So you're absolutely right, FN should have done that.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:11:45 PM No.64011986
>>64011975
Increasing bolt travel distance is what you do when you want a reliable gun that doesn't have the bolt carrier smashing into the back of the receiver. Simple as that.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:13:03 PM No.64011990
>>64011975
least obsessed scar seether
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:18:37 PM No.64011997
>>64011986
Or you can just design a better recoil system so that you don't need the crutch of increasing the length of the receiver. You can always do that (well, FN can't).

>>64011990
Oh yes, I'm completely seething about the SCAR's inability to displace a design half a century older than it. As an FN SCAR hater I just hate when people bring up the FN SCAR's defeat at the hands of the M4.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:20:51 PM No.64012005
>>64011997
There's no recoil system that can go against basic physics.
You want a high bolt weight and decently high velocity to give it enpugh momentum to smash through grit. If you tune the system for for a short bolt stroke you are leaving reliability gains on the table.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:24:01 PM No.64012012
20250330_114846~2
20250330_114846~2
md5: 5ce9d9de51dd58199c608375a99c3eba๐Ÿ”
Imagine not owning a SCAR 17 lmao
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:37:04 PM No.64012034
Fresh coom lube
Fresh coom lube
md5: 70cdce4bf842fceb20324d6c057fbbfc๐Ÿ”
>>64011997
Anon, the longer the bolt-over, the more reliable the system
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:39:12 PM No.64012037
>>64012005
>There's no recoil system that can go against basic physics.
Uh, you can put springs with differing K-ratings in the same system. It's actually extremely common, the most common arrangement of this kind is a 2-stage travel and rebound. You can also have a 3-stage with an additional very stiff crash/buffer spring like DPM use.

Or you can just competently design the spring arrangement in a single-rate system, like the XCR, which has a significantly longer recoil spring due to efficient packaging.

Anyway, the SCAR is apparently the only gun which has this "basic physics" problem. Everyone else manages to make normal-size receivers which don't batter themselves apart.
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
7/21/2025, 4:48:36 PM No.64012058
17s with SAI
17s with SAI
md5: 04287a7b5c7c7c684efe1de6ed7f223e๐Ÿ”
>>64010722 (OP)
>Be FN
>Make exactly what govt customer asked for
>Its really good
Huh, interesting
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 4:56:14 PM No.64012076
30 miles of night brapping
30 miles of night brapping
md5: b60606ae3a2a7d98ec46353ab6662d6a๐Ÿ”
>>64012058
>be mountain jew
>make thing
>some autist shitposts about it for years
I'm going to shoot 147s at trash on my way to work. Really I got nothing, traffics kind of weird for a Monday
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:34:55 PM No.64012675
>>64010776
That's fucking bullshit.

>>64010778
It's not, it's generally quite a good rifle, but which is kinda overpriced because FNH know that they can get away with charging those prices.
The SCAR is actually rather cost effective to manufacture, so together with its overall good qualities and reliability, they would be able to wildly undercut a lot of competition with the thing by slashing the price in half.

Compare to the Galil ACE, that's actually a pretty good rifle, but it's not as good as the SCAR, yet it's also rather overpriced. FNH could undercut IWI on that pretty hard.

>>64011843
Good post.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:41:06 PM No.64012710
>>64011975
>And yet somehow the gun still shakes itself to pieces
It doesn't. Do you also think it beats up on optics too? That's another myth.
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A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
7/21/2025, 7:47:34 PM No.64012747
scardraft1
scardraft1
md5: 188788f6e7ee52a9171e002de3aa888c๐Ÿ”
>>64012710
>Do you also think it beats up on optics too? That's another myth.
It does. But mostly an issue with inline mounted batteries on older electronics like eotechs, some NV and PEQs. A modern high quality optic will last forever on them.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:50:24 PM No.64012766
Sig Spear, 6.8x51mm Fury
Sig Spear, 6.8x51mm Fury
md5: 714c04f1df2c314115cb37c11670be30๐Ÿ”
>>64012058
>Be Sig
>Make exactly what govt customer asked for
>Its really bad
Funny how that goes sometimes.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:00:32 PM No.64012828
>>64012012
They seem like they're really good rifles, but I don't like the aesthetics, and I don't feel like I want to pay that money.
If I got one for free, I would probably treasure it though.
A2Grip !!NmwbimY+kLZ
7/21/2025, 9:04:04 PM No.64013222
scardraft2
scardraft2
md5: df06f1b00656cf7c40821337ee716278๐Ÿ”
>>64012766
They killed Jesus what do you expect from them?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:24:17 PM No.64013326
FRA_6115
FRA_6115
md5: 7ce1a1366ab6906ed310847ae613191c๐Ÿ”
I don't like the look of the SCAR, but I do like the look of the MRGG.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:25:27 PM No.64013332
>>64013326
*side charger aside, I should add.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:45:20 PM No.64013409
>>64013326
>three charging handles THREE
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:05:33 PM No.64013493
btw
what about that 264 licc rifle ?
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:17:26 PM No.64013548
magazine_stoppages
magazine_stoppages
md5: 665dc4292f6aef092e7ce1ce1137a604๐Ÿ”
>>64011843
>Thats the magazine, the vast majority of issued mags were dogshit tilt-my-shit-up-senpai black follower mags, with only drip-fed issuing of green followers
You can definitely see the difference between using worn to shit mags and factory new ones. HK was using their steel mags instead of aluminum too.
Another underappreciated issue is that during the shooting phase the extractor can jump over the groove and the shorter dwell time on a shorter gas system leads to bolt movement while the extractor isn't properly gripping the rim. So the o-ring that adds extractor tension was a Crane solution to this problem.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:40:57 PM No.64013650
>>64010732
>You are bitchmade. Eat more protein
Indeed, heck the tree-ol-hate version shoots smooth compared to other battle rifles in the same caliber such as the G3 too. There's plenty of legitimate complains to be made about Scar's but recoil ain't one of them.

>>64012710
Probably beats the shit out of shitty Walmart specials but if your worried about that just slap an ACOG on it an forget it.

>>64011843
Spot on but you also forgot...
>Colt loses it's M4 contract and narrowly avoids the shadow realm/bankruptcy because CZ wanted the rights to the Python/Anaconda revolvers
>a million new companies spring up that can fulfill MIC police contracts and the civilian market better/cheaper
Turns out nepotism and cronyism is well a bad thing.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:05:45 PM No.64013766
>>64013650
That last part is kind of nonsense. The Army did not have a successful program to replace the M4 meaning that a contract for service rifles would have to be fulfilled by delivering M4s, and FN had to pay Colt a royalty fee on the carbines produced because the M4 TDP was Colt intellectual property.
All the other government agencies and police departments were free to pick rifles from other companies that forked the AR design without being locked into the M4 TDP. It's not like cops and civilians were being kept down by Colt's tyranny.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:25:51 PM No.64013865
urghcat
urghcat
md5: 2054de72a3b1c4b1ce32c152de58fca4๐Ÿ”
>>64013326
>one non-reciprocating charging handle
>one reciprocating charging handle
>and also a forward assist
We need to find the people who are dictating these program requirements and then sink them with concrete shoes into the Hudson.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 11:54:03 PM No.64013961
Northrop Grumman-Colt precision grenade launcher
Northrop Grumman-Colt precision grenade launcher
md5: 58fb834c0f3b9f8bf93aeff0cb771095๐Ÿ”
>>64013650
I believe all of the broken optics in that one original test of the SCAR were indeed Walmart and .22 optics which had no business being put onto any infantry rifle.

As for Colt, they're apparently not all out of the game yet, CZ presumably got them co-operating with Northrop-Grumman on a modern precision grenade launcher, similar to those which Barrett, FN Herstal, and Rheinmetall are working on. I don't have high hopes for nu-Colt, but I guess we'll see.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:45:21 AM No.64014101
eotech_batt
eotech_batt
md5: addad5ec8261d2d1488e2581d4cff046๐Ÿ”
>>64013961
>I believe all of the broken optics in that one original test of the SCAR were indeed Walmart and .22 optics which had no business being put onto any infantry rifle.
At least on the eotech case it literally didn't matter how rugged the optic was, the way battery contacts work involve one side being a spring to maintain the contact, but under recoil the inertia forces the battery to slam back and forth.
The XPS series put the battery compartment perpendicular to the recoil axis to eliminate the issue altogether.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 12:47:40 AM No.64014112
>i cant afford it so i must make fun of it
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:07:20 AM No.64014183
>>64012034
XCR?
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:09:08 AM No.64014191
>>64011843
>burst cam
>A2/A4 didn't have those issues
Interdasting.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:10:40 AM No.64014194
>>64013222
>Jews
>did God's will
>hated for it
Typical.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:12:16 AM No.64014199
>>64014194
If the M7 is God's will then I'm a fucking Satanist.
That thing is NOT born through human engineering ingenuity nor the will of God.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 1:17:09 AM No.64014216
>>64014199
Nah I was talking about Jesus.
>look at Israeli service rifles
I have a suspicion that if the Jews DID design the M7 it would be far better than it is now. The M7 screams "designed by a committee of engineers who never touched a gun and were following stupid requirements to the letter" more along the lines of Indians or DEI hires.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:30:26 AM No.64014864
>>64010732
>>64010752
>>64010889
Black
Heavy guns mean less extra ammo carried for the same weight
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:49:14 AM No.64014931
>>64014216
Agreed, it was definitely engineered by people who don't understand guns or infantry needs and just shoved a high power round into the shortest gun they thought they could get away with, without considering long term effects. And the Army bought it hook line and sinker
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 4:58:02 AM No.64014952
>>64014931
>And the Army bought it hook line and sinker
The army requested this because there's retards in the top brass.
The M7 actually IS what the brass asked for, it's just that what they asked for isn't good and soldiers hate it.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:04:45 AM No.64014986
>>64010722 (OP)
this gun will only ever be used to shoot paper or at some malnourished brown person with a 4th grade education in a place 80% of americans cant find on a map, both being wielded by some retarded try hard iowa grass fed beef cis white male who fell for the recruitment hollywood jerry bruckheimer propaganda or a autistic kid who played too much modern warfare 2

seems to be doing as it was engineered for
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:07:08 AM No.64014996
The rifle is fine, makes no difference anyway since you will never be able to afford one lmao
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:08:00 AM No.64015003
>>64010722 (OP)
>Seriously what were they smoking?

Exactly what USSOCOM was expecting
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:26:14 AM No.64015072
>upper receiver is an aluminum extrusion
>lower receiver is a plastic molding
>bolt carrier is mostly a relatively simple shape which is largely flat and square on the outside
>grip is plastic
>stock is plastic
FNH's profit margins on semi-auto commercial ones must be pretty high to still be wanting almost $3000 for these rifles after all this time. They don't skip on fit and finish, but at this price, they damn well better not.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:28:57 AM No.64015082
>>64010722 (OP)
FN sucks and survives on .gov contracts.
Everyone knows this. They are SIG but actually make good but old crew served.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:31:18 AM No.64015092
>>64014986
As the 20% this is true.
This is the result of focus on fast action raids. No one is expected to hump this bitch. It stays behind the wire or gets inserted by chooper and picked up within hours.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:48:51 AM No.64015124
>>64013326
Forward assist is just comical. The MLOK to picatinny mounted 50 year old harris bipod is also funny to me, at least use an arca rail or something, at least socom is using those
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 5:56:00 AM No.64015134
>>64014864
t. bitchmade weakling who complains about recoil in a 5.56 rifle (LOL)
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 9:12:40 PM No.64017533
>>64012766
>bribe army generals and convince them to start a weapons procurement program
>tell them what target specs they should ask for
>you deliver them a product with those specs
Bravo

>>64013326
Is this a practical joke
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 10:22:58 PM No.64017763
>>64010722 (OP)
>Seriously what were they smoking?
What?
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:19:01 PM No.64018059
20241029_155421
20241029_155421
md5: ee50efe6a60ac16b0ac0bdd9fbbe1f70๐Ÿ”
>>64010722 (OP)
Must have been something that makes your brain huge because this thing is great.
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:28:02 PM No.64018114
>>64018059
Idk if I should keep waiting for the Bren 3 or get a SCAR 16S to go with my 17S
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Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:30:42 PM No.64018129
>>64018114
You may enjoy this more
>>64010780
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:31:16 PM No.64018132
>>64014986
>>64015092
I don't think it's even used in those shitholes anymore since everyone seems to have gone back to guccified M4's.
Anonymous
7/22/2025, 11:55:40 PM No.64018280
>>64018114
Bren is cool, I shot one of the 805s a few years back. I like it. There are things I slightly preferred about it, but overall I like the SCAR better. I don't think you can go wrong either way.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:55:56 AM No.64018601
>>64014183
Apparently one of the later gen XCRs, since it has the buffer built into the bolt instead of the receiver.
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 12:02:23 PM No.64020147
>>64010722 (OP)
The biggest complaint ive heard on the SCAR is that the recyprocating hand is idiotic and FN should have just ignored the Army's request.

And in typical FN fashion, people screamed for years for them to make a rail/receiver extension in front of the gas block so there was somewhere to grip onto/put shit on out of the way of the charging handle but they just never do anything to improve on their designs, ever.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:48:10 PM No.64020382
>>64020147
FN did end up making an NRCH version within the last couple years or so, discontinuing the recip models.
I don't know why they don't have a rail extension, FN doesn't even sell that accessory, or why they kept the gas block sight, not that it's an issue but it just seems outdated.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 2:58:42 PM No.64020411
>>64014986
> recruitment hollywood jerry bruckheimer propaganda
Which one?
Anonymous
7/23/2025, 4:03:28 PM No.64020595
>>64010722 (OP)
You need to think of the practical applications, ie the capability offered.

>Top monolithic rail with folding sights out of the bag
>Adjustable and foldable stock, with removable cheek riser.
>AR15 manual of arms (with caveats) on all barrel lengths and all calibers
>AR15 mags
>GL mountable on CQB 10" version and usable with standalone stock assembly that accepts sights, and its even side-loading for use with longer 40mm rounds
>PDW version shorter than CQBR
>If you're cheap, SSR can be configured as IAR too.

It's got it all for the govt procurement price with zero need for anything aftermarket other than optics and electronics, you get most of your arsenal and roles filled with a system that has interchangeable parts, and if they had finalized 7.62x39 conversion, you could issue the Mk17 as 3-caliber indig trainer gun.

It's ideal if you need to raise an SOF unit from nothing. Problem of course that SOCOM is an old organization and it has shitload of guns and experienced men trained on them, so it was judged from the viewpoint of 'what do we get that we don't already have', and by the time the full system was ready to be shipped, the M4A1 and CQBR got unfucked enough, and then there was upcoming HK416/417.
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 7:08:53 PM No.64021135
>>64010722 (OP)
FN are the most fraudulent firearms manufacturers there is
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Anonymous
7/23/2025, 9:45:31 PM No.64021728
>>64021135
bejitabro btw
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:00:40 AM No.64022072
>>64020595
I still dont get what the 416 does that the SCAR didnt do already, its a short stroke gas system with AR ergos but German instead of Belgian, and all the accessories were compatible anyway.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:42:05 AM No.64022177
>>64020382
>why they kept the gas block sight, not that it's an issue but it just seems outdated.

The FN advanced carbine (FNAC) that was proposed for the Army advance carbine program didn't have one (also had an nrch)
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:54:22 AM No.64022209
>>64022072
They were parallel programs with similar goals. The SCAR program wouldn't be finalized until 2009/10, and Delta wanted a better gun now; so they commissioned H&K to make piston uppers; the HKM4. It was probably just an interim thing rather than competing with the SCAR, but they eventually got distinct lowers and became their whole own thing.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 3:17:52 AM No.64022619
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>>64013961
>As for Colt, they're apparently not all out of the game yet
Well yeah, they're making low batches of SAA's for cowboy larpers to stay alive.
>grenade launcher
Huh, didn't see that coming, hopefully it's an alright piece.
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:00:24 AM No.64023382
>>64014101
off topic but I've only known iron sights and ACOGs, do red dots actually need batteries?
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:01:28 AM No.64023385
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>>64022619
Something Colt should do is to lean in harder on the classic revolver angle and actually invest harder into QC and quality.
USFA were the best in game, and Colt would be perhaps the most fitting to take their place, do the same style of improved spring fittings and all.
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:11:48 AM No.64023402
>>64011975
>Increasing the dimensions of components is what you do when you lack engineering competence.
Explains american auto industry perfectly lol
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:15:31 AM No.64023406
>>64013650
>>64012747
>>64012710
Yeh but the SCAR broke a VCOG within 1000 rounds
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 8:38:33 AM No.64023460
>>64023382
nta but yes, it's a laser pointer facing a piece of glass
Anonymous
7/24/2025, 11:51:09 AM No.64023768
>>64013961
>>64022619
Barrett already won that contract btw
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Anonymous
7/24/2025, 12:35:58 PM No.64023847
>>64023768
They did? At least it's not Sig I guess.