Thailand vs Cambodia

So far the Khmers kicked off the war with opening salvos and Thais have responded with Viper strikes.

>>64023435 (OP)
I'll bet Thailand is happy they paid for modern American equipment at this point.
Cambodia's dealing with hand-me-down soviet shit.

>>64023544
Their newest jets are from Sweden but yeah. People always ask what Thailand needs a military for and forget Cambodia and Myanmar chimp out constantly.

>>64023435 (OP)
First King vs King war in a century, if it becomes a war that is instead of another faggy drone chimpout

>>64023544
Doesn't Thailand mostly buy Chinese tanks now though?

>>64023544
Thailand is buying lots of Chinese equipment too

>>64023688
>>64023701
Thailand notably got from China some brand new tanks, a bunch of BMP and MLRs but essentially that's it. Their army is a melting pot of differents producer: USA, Sweden, Israël, Germany, France etc. The airforce is completely Nato-coded.

>>64023726
And Cambodia really has fuck all, they're just too dirt poor so it's bizarre they're even trying this shit.

>>64023800
>you are driving
>see this
what do?

>>64023435 (OP)
Wake me up when tanks cross the border, I'm getting bored of the missile spam wars.

had no idea thailand had vipers

>>64023660
It won't, Thais are powerful enough to stomp the Khmers without drones. They should also have complete air superiority, if this does actually go hot(ter).

>>64023800
Nice clean Toyota Camry btw

>My prayers for more /k/ino footage have been answered
Thank God.

>>64023974
They have about 50. A bit long in the tooth but still more than enough to sweep fucking Cambodia.

>>64023726
>that's it

They also bought long range SAM, SPH, frigates, corvettes, submarines...

>>64023787
Anon cambodia economy grew 15 fold thees 25 years and now their economy is being turbocharged by influx of casino and online gambling money, most of which were unreported

In term of economic competitiveness Cambodia is more competitive than even Indonesia and Philippines

>>64023435 (OP)
Honestly why are all these random wars popping off? Is this due to COVID killing world trade and trust?

>>64024251
>Anon cambodia economy grew 15 fold t
@grok what's 15 times 0?

>>64024270
Most likely because the world police has proven to be unwilling at best and downright retarded at worst so countries just do whatever now.

>>64024270
SEA is full of damn near ancient rivalries and a lot of people hate the Thais for a combination of being
>weak
>successful
>not a complete shithole
>having edible food (yes it'll give you the shits but it's okay)
>having traps
>getting all the tourism bucks

>>64023435 (OP)
Oh boy yet another border skirmish nothing burger that will be over in less than 2 weeks *yawn*

>>64024311
>weak
Not chimping out every 30 days isn't weakness, Thailand has been saving its pennies and femboys to buy good equipment and infrastructure to back it.

I just wanna see Thailands cute little CV in action

They better not kill all those ladyboys before I get there.

>>64024270
>Thai-Cambodia war
Border wars from WW1 era colonial mapping issue
>Russia-Ukraine war
Border wars from fall of soviet union
>Israel-Pakistan
Border wars from WW2 era mapping issue
>Pakistan-India
Border wars from WW2 era colonial times
>India-China
Border conflicts from WW2 era mapping issues (particularly as China took over Tibet and wants more land affirmed)
>US-Mexico border conflict causing domestic issues
Unguarded borders issue
>UK/Europe-Africa border issues
Border crossing causing concern for welfare/housing for natives/citizens

>>64023726
>Israël
You are obviously French and nothing you say can be trusted

>>64024251
It doesn't matter if they had an economy equal to Thailand, sincethey spend fuck all on their military. Singapore does have a GDP the size of Thailand's and a military budget three times larger, with the latest Western equipment, yet they'd still get rolled by Thailand just by weight of numbers alone like Turkey vs Israel. In this comparison Cambodia isn't even close to Jordan, they're more like Lebanon

>>64024251
money laundering doesn't translate that well to military equipment

>>64024270
American empire weakening

Turns out fortress America is a shit policy

>>64024372
Huh? Did Israel and Pakistan really go to war against each other?

Khmermonkey president leaked their plan of pushing themselves into a killbox

>>64023807
I don't wait around for the counter battery fire, that's for sure.

>>64024435
In 1949. Palestine lost.

Allso, the borders in that region are from the end of WW1 when tteth British and French carved op the Ottoman Empire.

Now for the true deciding factor: which country has the hotter women?

>>64024489
i only drink cambodian breast milk

KINO ALERT

>>64024475
>Palestine lost
That's nice dear, but what anon posted was "Did Israel and PAKISTAN really go to war against each other?"

>>64024507
No, but neither does Pakistan recognize Israeli statehood.

>>64024411
Do you know how opaque military procurement is? Especially for countries in SEA?

>>64024274
/k/ and willful ignorance. What a classic combo.

Does Thailand still have those Stingray tanks or whatever they are called?

>>64024503
>Born too late to see a Vietnam-era conflict.
>Born just in time to see a Vietnam-era conflict

>>64024548
Yes.

>>64024489
Thailand has the best traps in the world.

>>64024503
T-84's are pretty blinged out and modernized by Slav-shit standards. Going up against them in T-54's sounds like a seriously unfun experiance. Course Ta Thav looks like its mostly forested highlands, which is hardly ideal tank country.

Went to Chiang Mai on vacation to visit a buddy a couple years ago. Really nice town. Glad they're on the opposite end of the country from the Cambodian chimp out.

>>64024503
please tell me they still use M41

>>64024270
The Emperor has been busy tearing it's clothes for the past 24 years and recently pissed itself

>>64024565
IISS says that Thailand's still got two dozen operational M41s

>>64024565
Yes. Last used during previous coup

>>64024572
Any possibility of an M24?

>>64024503
We need some naval action too. Both Thai and Cambodian navies have American PBRs

I wonder if they'll deploy drone in massive numbers

>>64023435 (OP)
Which one do we want to win here?

>>64024604
Probably Cambodia. Thailand military is too bloated with plenty of useless generals on payroll

A small but decisive defeat would jolt the entire military to buck up

>>64024626
Cambodia is even worse.

>>64024604
The defence contractors I have stocks with

>>64024327
Not according to their neighbors

>>64024604
Thailand is the less shitty of the two but Cambodia has the better flag. I'd say to ensure the death of all reddit vexillologists Cambodia should win

Praying for some retard Cambodia crossing Vietnam border so we can join the war. We are tired of chink scam center based in "Tam Thai Tu"

>>64024676
Slapping architecture on a flag is peak thirdie tropic thunder killing fields behavior.

>>64024679
Is Vietnam team thai or team cambodia?

>>64024696
To put it simply, cambodia is no one's friend. Ever since the khmer rouge chimpout, they've been regarded by the rest of SEA as "that psycho retard we should've just annexed and erased off the map".

>>64024685
Better than 3 fucking stripes or a lot of the design by committee shit that states are adopting over their old seal on blue. Having a building on your flag is at least unique and somewhat cool

>>64024711
Yeah but china gets an easily manipulated place to stash dirty money, so you get to deal with their niggery for the rest of time

>>64024696
Team Thailand because those Cambodia support those chink scam centers.

>>64024604
Thailand because fuck chinks- Scambodia is a chink vassal state

>>64024748
>Thailand because fuck chinks

Thailand is the closest ally China has on the golden triangle you ignorant nigger.
If anything you should be supporting Cambodia.

>>64024604
I just hope both sides have fun.

We can all agree that Cambodia is gonna get rolled? What the fuck were they thinking?

So who is winning?

Have millions been killed?

>>64024757
They aren't allies, they just buy their shit as much as they buy US shit. Cambodia can't survive without chink support.

>>64024738
>>64024748
>>64024775
Thailand is a close Chinese ally you idots

>>64024784
Thai ladyboy ain't never call scamming me.

>>64024772
Billions.

>>64024757
>If anything you should be supporting the country that just gave its port to China
lol
lmao

>>64024760
some Thai civilians eating Cambodian's Grads would like to disagree I'd imagine

>>64024769
Hun Sen has gone full Pol Pot. He gives zero fucks at this point, he just wants to secure a legacy.

>>64024784
Thailand = works with chinks and buys their shit
Cambodia = completely dependent chink puppet/lapdog

>>64024784
You are delusional

>>64024821
Didn't see him massacre a minority simply because said minority wear eyeglasses

>>64024649
Nobody gave a shit about cambodia. they can rot for all I care

But Thailand could use the conflict to rid themselves of deadweight and have a more professional military

>>64024824
Thailand economy is 80% dependent on Chinese tourism

>>64024848
Only because he himself wears them.

>>64024251
>most of which were unreported
and cambodia taxes this unreported income?

>>64024864
You mean Malaysian.

>>64024878
Obviously not but why would that matter?

>>64024821
so he pulled a Putin?

The world is just falling apart now it seems

>>64024879
how is australia not on this list

>>64024885
Jarvis, how do governments pay for their militaries?

>>64024897
For all the memes they have very few people to send to begin with.

>>64024906
just a surprise to me, the two australians i know go to thailand yearly with their local friends

>>64024726
China already has to back one chimpout, they'd likely prefer to stay out of this one especially when their trade ties with Thailand are far more substantial.

>>64024890
heres the multipolar world you ordered

>look up cambodian air force
>zero combat aircraft, just junk that would barely qualify for trainers
>look up thai air force
>oh f-

Expect this to be a common sight in the skies above Phnom Penh.

>>64024393
Merde those swamp dweller are getting more persceptive by the days.

>>64024949
Most of them are early bloc with limited air to ground capability

This is RTAF major capability gap relative to its neighbours right now. Their more capable Gripen could carry about half the payload of F-16s and the Gripen E isn't going to arrive until 2029

>>64025002
Compared to what cambodia has (including near-nonexistent SAM deterrent), they might as well be F-35s.

>>64024559
>traps
They stop being a trap once they go on hormones and get surgery, dipshit. They're trans at that point.

>>64024949
Unlike first world countries, Thailand can only send a dozen or so of them fully armed.

They will go into severe economic depression if they bombed Cambodia with the same intensity as Israel does.

>>64023811
and they showed it on POCCNR 1

>>64025058
No need, just need to target hun sen. Khmers will thank Thais. Greet them as liberators.

>>64023435 (OP)

Cambotard here.

Wrong order of events the disputed is over Thailand not recognizing a Temple already awarded twice to cambodia by international court of justice. Pulling a Putin because they have better equipment.
1) Thai shoot Cambo border guard

2) Cambodia and Thai PM seem to find amicable solution, conversation gets leaked because Cambodia PM shares stuff on grop chat or something like that.
Thai army use the excuse of Thai PM being to friendly to cambodia PM to stage a coup. Thai pm loses power and Thai army now needs a good dose of nationalism and distraction to keep the Thais from protesting over the new army power grab.

3) a Thai soldier steps on a Soviet era mine on the border that has been filled with mines since Khmer rouge. Thais blame Cambodia for moving mines even if the mine was really old. Cambodia day it was just bad luck and to the Thais to stay away from the the no man's land that is heavily mines for decades.

4) last night Thailand military junta decided to recall ambassador and to do air strikes with F-16 in retaliation for the landmine. Also moved soldiers forward to their idea of the border.

5) Cambodia fired extremely old grads in response (not that they have many other options to do something) hitting the border military base and surrounding area.

6) Thais claim the cambodian struck a an hospital (it was just a missile falling in the background of the Thai military base medical unit not even really close) and a 7/11 (which is true the 7/11 next to the base got hit by shrapnel from the grad but not on purpose) there a few shops around the base so some civilians have been hit.

7) Thais do more air strikes and drone strikes.

8) Cambodia does more grad and fires machine guns in the general direction of the Thais.

9) right now because of the grads being scary the Thais run back to their original lines and the temple is back into Cambodia hands.

P.s.cambodia military isn't remotely up to par with Thailand.

>>64025074
Thais will just kick the door in and the whole rotten structure will fall down.
>the vietnamese did this

>>64025116
>awarded twice to cambodia by international court of justice
A court no one recognizes (not America, not China, not Israel, not the Philippines, no one). And awarded based on French-drawn maps to favor their colonial acquisitions. Cambodia shouldn't even be independent, it's rightful Thai clay.

But setting all that aside, Hun Sen is the Putin here, literally the one chimping out and launching rockets at civilians. If you're siding with him, you're a literal piece of shit.

>>64025116
Imagine trying to make these claims while under a literal dictatorship. I hope Thailand bombs you back to the stone age.

>>64025116
Cambodian cattle are ruled by a former khmer rouge communist swine. You have zero moral high ground in any of this.

>>64025149
>>64025142
>>64025134
t.ladybois
I should've known /k/ love that bussy

>>64025165
Keep sucking hun's shriveled brown shrimpdick bro. Maybe you'll be lucky enough to join the millions of dead khmer cattle he helped slaughter the last time.

>>64025165
>thinking his commie shithole is in the right
Lol
Lmao

>>64025116
>he cambodian struck a an hospital (it was just a missile falling in the background of the Thai military base medical unit not even really close)
Shit happens, true.

>7/11
Warcrime.

>>64025116
>sorry we didn't mean to hit your 7-11 with our degraded 5 mile wide accuracy rockets

>>64025116
how about don't leak highest level call like a retard?

>>64024251
>cambodia economy grew 15 fold thees 25 years
more like 11-fold, which is alright
but that's because in 2000 Cambodia was lower than dirt poor
Cambodia is still dirt poor now; have you any idea what 2,500 dollars per capita means? a European contributes more to the world economy in 1 month than twelve Cambodians

>>64024533
>/k/ and willful ignorance. What a classic combo.
even more classic combo: Dunning-Kruger

>>64025193
They did it on purpose just to start as much shit as fast and hard as possible. The whole situation is a massive FAFO for Cambodia. Thais were holding back to try to stabilize things so tourists wouldn't get spooked but because Cambodians are operating on animal logic, they see any diplomacy as weakness so they called down the thunder and now they'll reap the whirlwind.

>>64025134

>>No one recognizes it

Literally 193 countries do. The vast majority of the planet. The whole point of this court is to solve these issues without wars.

The US pulled out because they don't want to arrest Israelis but that's a whole another story and China has it's issues with Tibet.

The Thai junta isn't any better than the old Cambodian retired PM. They are the usual power grabbing authoritarians. At least the Cambodian guy presided over good economic growth for decades and did it's best to avoid war. For all his shortcomings he was about one of the most benign totalitarian third world leader i can think of. Took a wrecked shell of a genocided nation with rebels running amok in the 90s and made it safe and increased GDP 15 times. Electricity went from Africa tier to 24/7 reliable. You can walk at night anywhere safer than any US big city. Cambodia is quite nice now. For comparison African countries that went through similar situations at the same time as Cambodia are still wrecks.

>>64025218
I hope they take the temple back permanently. Cambodians clearly can't handle the responsibility.

>>64025149

The current Cambodia government hates commies with a passion.

There is constant reminder here of what communism did to the nation. And the old PM was one of the guys that got recruited to the Khmer rouge, saw what they did and so turned on them leading to the Khmer rouge fall with the help of the Vietnamese initially and with the UN forces later.

Is /k/ under a shill operation by thais or something?

>>64025218
For every Thai he kills, 1000 khmers should die.

>>64025218
>You can walk at night anywhere safer than any US big city
>Cambodia
lol no

>>64025231
>trust me bro he's one of the good khmers
kek

>>64025233
Every time something happens, shills rev up the shitposting.

>>64025242
This random cambodian hatred seems inorganic

>>64023811
IMPLESSIVE

>>64025193

You overestimate the way a really old leader understands mobile phones.
Pere Eggset leaked stuff and the guy is half Hun Send age. I strongly doubt it was purposeful. I believe it was sent to the wrong telegram government group (much bigger one) and from there a guy shared to a friend that shared it with others and it ended up in the hands of the media.

>>64025250
Agreed, everyone was getting solid info from camboanon and then boom! Angry spazzing.

>>64025233
Yes and they don't even hide.

>>64024821
can you give us a rundown on political sitrep in cambodia?
is this a continuation of pol pots political regime or what? i literally know near nothing about it
>>64024923
my worldview since last couple years is literally boiled down to whats good for White folks arround the world
>>64025233
turd worlder sperg thinks that if you are against duginist world chaos multipolarity and khmer commies you are shill

>>64024878
You don't get it. casino and online gambling is run by national entities with cuts going to the government. Cambodian gaming sector, for example, could put both Singapore and Malaysia to shame

This is why GDP figure shouldn't be taken as scripture especially for thirdies as informal/unreported economy is usually just as large as reported GDP

>>64024372
Who colonized Thailand again?

>64025277
See? It's just inorganic

>>64025262
>how can anyone be against the killing of civilians?? must be shills
khmer aren't human.

>>64025287
France controlled Cambodia prior to WW2. Thailand had to give up lot of their land to British/France/etc to stay independent and not be subject to western empires. They played the border game to appease the western colonial neighbors.

>false flag chink anons come in to stir shit and support the cambodian menace

the cambodian cries out in pain as it strikes your 7-11

>>64025262
>solid info
>"this bloodthirsty khmer rouge dictator isn't that bad you guise"

>>64025237

Cambodia is very surprisingly safe.
Like EU safe or even better.
Los Angeles or new York or Philly at night can be dodgy as fuck.
Phnom Penh or Siem reap you can walk around anywhere at 3am and the worst it could happen is to be aware of drunk drivers. There is literally no violent crime towards foreigners, only pickpocketing. (Unless you are Chinese and get into gambling debt with the Chinese triads but that a very unique situation, Chinese don't touch locals or westerners).

It might be because Cambodia has a comical large amount of plain clothes and uniformed cops or because Asians just aren't much into mugging and armed robbery but it's definitely safer than places like Naples or any big city in California by FAR.

holy shit thai shills are out of control, kek

Whoever sucks China's dick harder is the badder guy in this conflict. Simple as.

>>64025308
He's out and out saying its from the cambodian point of view. Chill before you cum, ladyboy.

>>64023435 (OP)
Protecc Pattaya!

>>64025310
At least pol pot had the decency to only kill cambodians. The fact that you're defending someone who goes out of his way to kill civilians in other countries tells me all I need to know about you.

>>64023787
>so it's bizarre they're even trying this shit.

A ripe fruit to take.

Who offers help? Who gets rights to cambodian cheap workforce, markets, land area next to and with access to South China sea (direct air access when Vietnam agrees about it)?

Large powers can gain much from Cambodia...if Thailand is compromised and they work for chinese communist party, then Cambodia can get all the benefits from being the opposing force!

>>64024560
This is an understatement, T-55s are absolutely boned in any tank engagement against T-84s unless they manage to ambush them. This is a matchup equivalent to a 1942 vintage M4 Sherman vs a T-62

>>64025287

Funnily enough the only reason the This didn't get colonized is because France and the UK could not agree how to split Thailand between themselves. There are some old maps online with the the 2 halves of Thailand as they were supposed to be spilt between Thailand and the UK. But ultimately they couldn't agree on the border and decided to keep Thailand as a buffer to avoid having conflicts in the future.

>>64025325
Sorry you'll have to speak up with that boot in your mouth.

>>64024949
India just found a buyer for its retired MiG-21

>>64025336
They never needed a buffer before. Funny how only Thais were effective at convincing them they needed one. Unlike khmers who only really excel at killing their own people.

first ziggers, then israelis, and now /k/ Is full of thai shills
This board has become the designated shitflinging board (behind /pol/ of course)

>>64025310
>or any big city
none of which you've ever been to

Both of these factions seem super retarded and i will regard anyone who gets emotional about either as a shill. I am rooting for the F-16s because i like the plane, i dont care how any of the countries or other forces perform.

>no khmer shills because there's nothing worth shilling about cambodia

>>64024923
>wars everywhere
>potential for some real quality videos and photos
>not to mention stories
>perfect time to be a merc
>all this war will surely mean the international ammo and gun market will ramp up production, leading to surplus
I like this timeline

>>64025353
>satan complains there are no devil worshippers
lol

>>64025343
I'm good on that particular service, but thanks for showing me the menu.

>>64025364
So you admit to being a thai shill?

>>64025368
>I'm good on that particular service
I bet.

>>64025331

>>Going out of it's way to kill civilians.

Like when? The only civilian deaths (alleged at least) are around the base which got fired against only after the Thais bombed Cambodia with F-16. You can blame Cambodia for having shitty missiles from the 70s that have a CEP the size of farm but Cambodia literally had soldiers killed by Thais for no reason and didn't do anything but pouting and stop buying Thai veggies for a month. Than a Thai guy can't read a map and walks into a cold war mine and the Thais response is to literally launch air strikes and a ground advance. Seriously WTF was Cambodia supposed to do? They don't have literally anything else to retaliate with. The fanciest stuff they have is some Temu version of the Caesar artillery that the Chinese gifted a few units to cambodia.

Since the other thread is at bump limit, starting to post vids here. Old thread with loads more videos: >>64023266


They be continuing all night long it seems over there. Cambodian RM-70 sending some love downrange.

>Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/ftznxq.mp4

>>64024879
Only 71k Americans in April? That has to be wrong, right? How can that be accurate? Isn’t it a running joke that Americans go there in droves?

>>64023435 (OP)
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Cambodia%E2%80%93Thailand_border_conflict
>In 2011, ICJ deferred the dispute to ASEAN, which failed to mitigate the dispute after Thailand revoked previously granted permission for international observers.[23] Cambodia returned to the ICJ, but Thailand rejected ICJ's jurisdiction to determine boundary lines, saying that they must be decided bilaterally.
Pretty cunty movie by the Thais NGL.

>>64025395
>Isn’t it a running joke that Americans go there in droves?
Only pedophiles and faggots in denial (ladyboy lovers)

>>64025361

I have been in Cambodia for over a decade but I am originally from the west my dude. I am well travelled.

>>64025371
I admit to really noooticing how there is this weird concern about supposed ladyboys shills and not the other side.

>New war just dropped

>https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/thai-fighter-jet-bombs-cambodian-targets-border-battle-escalates-2025-07-24/

It seems that the F-16 were only deployed after Cambodian artillery strikes.

>>64024604
Thailand has 130 Strykers, which makes them the morally superior actor in this conflict.

>>64025211
>$2,500 per capita.
Seriously? That’s almost three times lower than Kosovo, a country half the internet thinks doesn’t even exist. You’ve got to be trying to fail this hard

>>64025431

No the first air strikes were last night. It was quite a surprise.

>>64025448
It's only mid 90's that Cambodia got out of the dark ages and I mean real dark ages full on medieval stuff. So honestly they were doing ok.

Saab about to win bigly

Buy Saab stonks

Big number go up

>>64025448
yeah, as with Vietnam, this part of the world is basically about thirty or forty years behind Western countries

>>64025487
But the Thai use F-16 to do ground strike.

>>64025218
Holy fuck, what level of cope is this?

>>64025472
Yeah true, but that’s kinda why it surprised me. Like, Kosovo basically got flattened by Serbia in the late '90s and had to rebuild from the ground up too. It’s still the butt of jokes for being the poorest country in Europe, and it’s not even fully recognized, so it misses out on a lot of the international investment actual countries get. That's why im surprised

>>64025262
>solid info
May we see it?

>>64025506
check the other thread

>>64023435 (OP)
Nothing ever happens.

>>64025506
Check the first thread, he announces who he is, where his perspective is coming from, and then tells his side. A shill would obfuscate and present it as absolute fact instead of "this is what cambodia is saying"

>>64025335
>This is an understatement, T-55s are absolutely boned in any tank engagement against T-84s unless they manage to ambush them.
Pretty much. Just by specs its probably a bigger technical gap than existed between the export model T-72's the Iraqis had back in 91 and the M1A1 in service at the time. The main saving grace is this is forested highlands and not the Kuwait Desert, where a serious effective range/sensor disparity generally means a turkey shoot. And that the Thai's use a lot of older Patton tanks. Though some of their M60A3's have more modernized optics/FCS), and even the cold war era thermals on the TTS is scary enough once the sun goes down.

>>64025448

Cambodia went to literally near 0 GDP and a life expectancy of 20 years of age in the 1976 after being comparable with Taiwan and not that far behind Japan in the 60s.
When the Americans abandoned Vietnam the commies took over cambodia too, the Vietnamese armed and backed the Khmer rouge (till they turned on each other) against the US backed democratic Kampuchea (lon nol Cambodia) government.
The Vietnamese effectively won all the battles for the Khmer rouge till the fight for the capital (which was won by a third faction called monatio that rose up from inside the city but got killed by the commies shortly after).

The Khmer rouge later sided with Mao china and Viet with Soviet Russia in the sino-soviet split and fought. The retard pol pot that just destroyed the whole industrial sector because he believed in famer commies being the purest form of commies lost obviously but kept fighting till the 90s. So Cambodia was half under Khmer rouge and half under vietnamese invasion till 25 years ago. Than the UN replaced the commies and the country was pacified by the mid 90s. From 1995 to today Cambodia rebuilt itself and is surprisingly nice and safe. Electricity is more stable than in most of Africa almost up to western standards now. Safety is better than most of the US. Crime is very low. Taxes are low. GDP has been soaring. Most people went from Africa poor to Easter Europe kind of poor. Now it's also getting a Las Vegas vibe with all the new casinos in some areas.
However the farmers living in the remote provinces are still dirt poor desu.

>>64025489
Still wild that Vietnam’s per capita is lower than countries like Moldova and Kosovo. You’d think with how much it’s grown, it’d be way ahead, but nope.

>>64025335
T-55's punch above their weight, as we can see from Russian advancement in Ukraine.

>>64025511
>>64025514
>This thing happened this way because I totally said it happened this way
I guess we can see how the khmer came to power so easily

>>64025310
i'm a chicagoan who has visited phnom penh and it wasn't much different than the south side during the chiraq era, minus guns. and even then, unless you're very unlucky or involving yourself in people's shit then you're good.

>>64025448
Indochina SEA is poor outside of Thailand

Vietnam is basically 90s China

Overall SEA is poorer than South America, Eastern Yurop, Balkans and Norf Africanique but richer than South Asia, Central Asia and Africa

>>64025438
This anon gets it

>>64025523
lol, lmao even

>>64025211
And what does 11x growth mean for their ability to afford military hardware? Does it mean they have more or less capability to acquire good stuff than before?

>>64025211
>Cambodia yearly revenue: $7.99 billion
>Military budget: $770 million
>Aircraft: 5 transport planes (1 jet-powered)

>Thailand yearly revenue: $86.56 billion
>Military budget: $6.11 billion
>Aircraft:
>8 AT-6
>11 Gripen
>13 F-5
>14 Dornier Alpha
>48 F-16
>2 Saab AEW&C
>2 Earth Observation Satellites

>>64025514
I mean then that's not really "solid info", more like literally just his opinion man.

>New war just dropped
>3rd world shithole fighting 3rd world shithole
I dont fucking understand
JUST SPEND THOSE MONEY ON IMPROVING YOUR LIFE. JESUS CHRIST
Just take all those money you spend buying tanks and jets and build schools, hospital, universities, roads.

>>64025364
the food was pretty good, and they have their own version of muay thai that's interesting to watch. plus when i went to the brothel, i wasn't interested in the younger girls, the mamma san there served me up personally and yeah man.

>>64025520

Loads of millionaires in Cambodia Vietnam and Thailand.

Just they are all in the big cities and the country farmers live off selling their goods at informal markets and have a lot of kids effectively counting 0 on gdp formal data while having big families dragging down the overall average massively. In eastern Europe even the famers are part of the "system" usually pay some taxes and are accounted for in GDP metrics.

>>64025516
Yeah, that’s a crazy history. That’s why I brought up Kosovo—it’s kind of a similar story in terms of starting from almost nothing after being kept poor and then having its economy wrecked by war. Kosovo was under Serbian control until ’98, and the ’98-’99 war basically destroyed what was left of its economy

>>64025526

Yeah you get me.

The safety feeling is similar to a us big city but without the guns and crack heads. So a lot better in practice XD

>>64025524
Are you retarded or illiterate? He openly calls out his own biases; read other sources for other sides, you can't rely on one person to have the full picture. I have yet to see a thai call themselves out and say this is what I'm hearing from our government, so the only info we have is him, twitter, and vids.

>>64025520
It also has a fuck load more people than both of those countries together though.

>>64025555
Wasted quads

>>64025448
All their 3-digit (and high 90s) IQ havers were killed by Pol Pot.

>>64025563
Explains why they're getting so mad in this thread

>>64025560
Get posting is for fags and shills

>>64025532
I'm honestly shocked Thailand can afford all that on only $6.11B dollars desu. That seems decent for a tiny thirdie AF.

>>64023435 (OP)
how long until we see Red Bull sponsored air strikes and trick shots?

>>64025573
>You have to support khmer 2 killing fields boogaloo or else
Lol. Lmao even

Who are we rooting for?
Ladyboys I'd assume.

>>64025614
Never said that, retard. Learn 2 read.

>>64023435 (OP)
>thailand has an aircraft carrier
>its a little babby with 0defensive armament
>built by spaniards
>staffed by gooks
cambodia is supported by china and could feasibly come up with a truly modern 2025 anti-ship missile
are we going to see the first aircraft carrier sunk since WW2? No doubt thailand can win the war but that boat is vulnerable. Wiki says about 500 gooks aboard but no people at least

>>64025615
Stats are favoring lady boys, worried about cambodianons wife tho

Ah, that explains it. It's the chink shills doing duty for pol pot 2. Implessive

>>64025628
I doubt china will get involved to that extent. They're real shy about getting their shit embarassed. But it would be neat to see. Cambodia claims an f16 is killed according to a chinkshill thread, but no actual evidence as of yet.

>>64025515
Right now, the single deciding factor on whether a tank is viable in combat or not is the presence of a thermal imager. If a tank has that, it should be able to work as a tank, even if performs badly. If a tank doesn't have that, it's basically just a. armored assault gun.

Honestly, optics are even more important in the jungle than the open desert. The amount of available visual concealment means that the ability to spot the enemy first is even harder without thermals.

Do the Cambodian tanks have anything in this regard, or are they running solely on optical sights?

>>64025353
>ziggers
You mean Ukies.

>>64025657
zigger please, it's always ziggers

>>64025628
They'd have to launch it at like visual range from a coastal battery. They'd have better luck if they begged for an 056.

>>64025628
Highly unlikely, it's basically the royal yacht that can also technically launch hand-me-down Spanish harriers that haven't flown in 20 years. Actual complement is just some seahawks for "maritime patrol" aka VIP duty and photo ops, it's not going to go in harms way.

>>64023554
Very cool if we can get some more combat data for Gripen and Ikea-Awacs.

>>64025573
Shut the fuck up, tourist scum.

>>64025669
>Reality is whatever I want it to be despite overwhelming and constant evidence to the contrary
Get fucked, shill.

>>64025628
Thailand's aircraft carrier is nothing more but a royal showpiece and has been inoperable for like 2 decades

Sinking it has no strategic importance, your average Thai knows it's a glorified royal yacht for naval parades and not a true working aircraft carrier

Hitting Gripens and F-16s will have more considerable impact, even blowing up a Stryker or two

>>64025687
>mad shill

>ziggers coming in a SEA monkeys shitflinging thread calling other people shills
Ah, I see now.

>>64025698
>t.zigger
Another million more

Shit, we should send some forces there to rescue the ladyb- I mean uhh, refugees from thailand. And bring them here. To my neighborhood.

>>64025726
Ladyboys do stay winning, since they're ineligible for the draft by reason of insanity.

It's neat to see the shills show up in real time. The first half of this thread was anons talking about military equipment, and then all of a sudden a bunch of people started screaming about how Cambodia dindu nothin or how Thailand has casus belli or whatever, citing obscure, specific things that an international observer wouldn't really care about.

Doesn't matter to me either way, I'm just here to watch Gripens and F-16s blow stuff up

Why are shills on /k/? We never take sides in thirdie conficts, we just cheer on the footage and madlads who actually pull off something impressive.

>>64025744
But you don't get it anon! Cambodishill is le based and tradpilled because.... um.... Because he said he was! Ha! checkmate!

Even if /k/ had flags it's hard to take ASEAN flags seriously because you know the ones here in 4chan are the top 1% of their country and have zero idea what the 99% of their populace actually experience daily.

Except for Singapore since they're a real first world country.

>>64025403
You forgot faggots not in denial (backpackers)

>>64025655
>Honestly, optics are even more important in the jungle than the open desert. The amount of available visual concealment means that the ability to spot the enemy first is even harder without thermals.
Yeah. Having a CITV with decent resolution seems especially important in a jungle combat context. You really want a second set of thermal that can pick out man sized signatures behind shrubs and shit. PNK-6 seems pretty good in that regard.
>Do the Cambodian tanks have anything in this regard, or are they running solely on optical sights?
The best the Cambodian seem to have are T54s. To their credit some of them seem to be end of Cold War era Czech models with reasonably decent fire control systems. But none of them have thermal optics (note the Soviet era IR illuminator).

>>64025751
Wait... what guns are those?

>>64025761
The ones on 4chan would be first world sexpats living like a king in their own pedo ladyboy dreams.

>>64025771
Sexpats in Southeast Asia are boomers, they don't know 4chan.

>>64025770
Looks like a Zastava M77 (?) with the rifle grenade gas cutoff sights.

>>64025777
Cambodia in the 90s-00s was a lawless land. The guy who founded consumptionjunction went there. Wouldn't surprise me if other early edgy interneters did too.

>>64025744
The way this thread developed was weird, yeah. Imagine this
>someone claims to be Russian/Chinese
>also claims that Russia/China dindu nuffin, NATO/West bad
>the other guy comes in and says
>hey, this guy is honest about where he's coming from
>that means everyone disagreeing with him are just NATO shills hiding who they really are

That's exactly how this thread went.

>>64025765
Do you really want to drive your tank into a jungle though?

>>64025794
You know it's not all jungle. You can't have ricefields in the jungle. Thnaksfully for the cambodian the frontline is in fact in the jungle on top of a montain chain, so armored vehicle would have minimum effect.

>>64025794
>Do you really want to drive your tank into a jungle though?
No. Not hugely. But the infantry probably wanna walk into a jungle without tank support even less. So if that's what you gotta do, being in an AC'ed MBT with a suite of thermal sensors beats having to rough it out like M48 tankers had to in Vietnam.

>>64024311
Don't forget that Indochinks are bloodthirsty fuckers

>>64025643
>I doubt china will get involved to that extent. They're real shy about getting their shit embarassed. But it would be neat to see.
Yeah they're not going to do shit. BTW, the comments at Guancha (very nationalist... or erm... communist... or hyper-communationalist Chinese site) are dumping on the Cambotards a lot. They're like: Hun Sen played himself. Guess there's not a lot of love for Cambodia in China. And a superiority attitude, "roosters pecking at each other" and "military geeks playing cosplay."

>>64025732
>Ladyboys do stay winning, since they're ineligible for the draft by reason of insanity.
They're too precious to risk during times like this.

please dont tell me you dumb niggers are actually picking a side and not just enjoying two brown shitholes killing each other???

Where the VT-4's at?
I wanna see if the german engine and transmission really works on a T-72 variant.

>>64024565
Technically Thailand still have a few Type 95s marked as reserves rather than fully retired.

>>64025963
>Urge to TOTSUGEKI intensifies

>>64025403
Still, I thought that number would be higher. But yeah makes sense that such people would go there.

>>64023688
>>64023726
>>64023701
sounds like a good opportunity to see chinese stuff in action

>>64025438
>pistol on wheels
Finally.

>>64023435 (OP)
Which side is China backing?

>>64025963
>Technically Thailand still have a few Type 95s marked as reserves rather than fully retired.
...but why? You could slap a MK19 with a gun shield on any modernish APC, and end up with a platform with more firepower/protection and mobility.

>>64026022
Both. China is selling weapons to Thailand and Cambodia is basically a chinese protectorate

>>64025116
Thank you cambo.

>>64026030
It's purely for ceremonial purposes. Keeping them on the books means they have a budget for maintenance and they can be stuck in parades.

>>64026047
A chinese protectorate that china won't bother to protect lmao. At least the French fullfil their end of the deal when cambodia became a protectorate.

>>64024270
Random small wars happen all the time, if you've only noticed them happening just now it's because you've just started reading non-mainstream news.

>>64024604
This is /k/, traditionally we don't pick a side. What matters is having fun.

>>64024604
I always have a soft spot for underdog but the cambo are so retarded that it make it hard to root for them.

>>64024604
Team Commando Stingray

>>64024431
It should be the right time for China to rise up and be the guarantor of muh Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere 2.0, right?
How is your do nothing win 5d chess strategy going?

>>64025544
you could double the official GDP figures to account for the black economy and it's still pretty shit

>>64025520
>You’d think with how much it’s grown, it’d be way ahead, but nope
ever been to HCMC? (I always still call it Saigon)
it's quite modern
it's the hicks in the sticks that are still pretty backward
but overall the place is quite different from, say, 15 years ago when it truly felt like you could walk around the corner and bump into Animal Mother

>>64025531
much more than before, obviously, but still so small that it barely matters

>>64025532
kek

>>64025306
>>64025336
>Thailand had to give up lot of their land to British/France/etc to stay independent
>the only reason the Thais didn't get colonized is because France and the UK could not agree how to split Thailand between themselves
All of that is true, but it wasn't only diplomacy and great powers rivalry that allowed Thais to stay independent. They were also willing and able to use force if necessary to protect their independence (under the right circumstances) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Thai_War
That's remarkable for a non-Western nation during that time. Only Ethiopia (until 1936) and Japan (before they became a colonial power themselves) could compare

>>64025331
>At least pol pot had the decency to only kill cambodians
He killed so many Vietnamese that Vietnam invaded and toppled his regime

>>64025927
Indeed, continental SEA countries have spent millenias massacring each others

>>64024821
He's nowhere near as based as Pol Pot

>>64025331
>At least pol pot had the decency to only kill cambodians
Hello friend you have demonstrated impressive retardness and are hereby invited to join the 4chan branch of the Khmer Rouge 2

>>64026093
>but still so small that it barely matters
They bought modern SAMs with it that may have shot down a Thai Viper, so no their growth has mattered in a way that's relevant right now.

>>64023435 (OP)
I hereby declare my support for Cambodia.

1. They are the underdogs.
2. That temple defo belongs to them.
3. Not a fan of Thai food, far too much coriander/cilantro.
4. I went to uni with a Cambodian, mad lad, good laff.

>>64025331
>>64026102
Pol Pot was such a baka retard the entire communist world united to out him, you had shit like the King taking refuge in Pyongyang and commies reinstalling a monarch.

>>64026132
>No pictures
>No video
>The news site that posted that retracted the story
Nice try shill

>>64026093
>you could walk around the corner and bump into Animal Mother
Fuck I wish I could get there sooner then.

>>64026110
I was thinking about this pic exactly when I typed that

>>64026162
nah, that vibe's gone bro
except maybe in some really REALLY hick town but the likes of you and I wouldn't know anything about that

I consider myself very very fortunate to have been able to visit Vietnam right before it got digitised and wealthy
it was like going back in time; people still used US Dollars as much as they used Dong, and electric appliances were almost rare

>>64026192
Shit man. My dream trip would be a heli ride in nam on a huey blasting fortunate son in my headset.

>>64023435 (OP)
Thailand should establish it's own Expat Legion.With so many former SAS,CIA, Delta Force and other ex operator expats living in Pattaya, Cambos wouldn't stand a chance.

>>64025233
>Is /k/ under a shill operation by thais or something
Thai diplomacy involves fucking foreigners so good that they become Thai aligned. Every tourist becomes an asset.

>>64024270
Jews masterplan for one world goverment

>>64023435 (OP)
so are they pretty much fucked if china doesn't get involved

>>64026261
in comparison

>>64024604
>We
You should probably go back if you can’t form your own opinion s

cheap opium vs. ladyboy hookers

>>64026261
>ANTI-TANK: 82mm&107mm recoilless.
Wtf is with this army? Even most thirdies have some kind of an older ATGMs

>>64026203
You even have an airborne regiment from the all the Pattaya Airline skydivers.

>>64025594
Smart choice/optimization/maintenance.

>>64024711
Like Somalia?

>>64025628
Ehh, dont they have any mobile rocket launchers they can put on their carriers as portable medium-long range missile launchers?

>>64026203
>Thailand should establish it's own Ladyboy Legion

>>64026319
They killed off all the people smart enough to do sensible budgeting and procurement

>>64025233
>>64025263
Thais must have some genetic relation to jeets

>>64025657
Western pedophiles and the degenerates defending them

>>64025752
Pol Pot was right about (((bankers)))

Holy fuck Cambotard is having a melty

Don’t worry, no one is invading anyone or having a real war. The reason: neither country has a professional military with the organizational ability to launch such a conflict. It’ll just be some light bombing, because air forces are closely linked the central peasant regimes and can do something whereas ground forces just won’t move due to a lack of political capital investment / dispersed power relations with the regime, and simple lack of ability to move.

>>64024247
They do purchase Chinese ships but they're armed with western weapons and equipment. Something the thai's are quite fond of doing.

Destroyed Grad

>Catbox: https://files.catbox.moe/c7in4e.mp4

>>64026701
how?

>>64026760
If I had to guess, this was the work of the F16's just after the original attack by Cambodia in the morning, they were supposedly targeting the MRLS too in addition to the inf division headquarters.

>>64024604
Which side are commies and which one are human?

>>64025385
I blame Cambodia for deliberately killing civilians. You reap what you sow.

>>64025537
Given your ESL grammar, you're clearly from a thirdie shithole.

>>64025701
>inoperable
It's plenty operable, still gets used during natural disasters.

>>64025943
Nice try, cambodia is clearly the subhuman shithole here.

>>64026058
France left...

https://files.catbox.moe/8vnad5.mp4

First confirmed loss. Seems to be an abandoned Thai M60.

>Error: Corrupted file or unsupported file type.

>>64026442
Very commie-esque.

>>64026877
Do they have the turkish upgrade m60s?

>>64026877
Some are saying it's a M48A5PI because of the curved UFP.

>>64026877
NOOOO MY BABIES

>>64026965
He was talking about Khmer Rouge, of course they were.

>>64026877
>abandooning against an enemy that's far smaller than you

Ah it's gonna be another SMO moment isn't it?

may the last one standing win

>>64027085
That would be so fucking funny. SEA monkeys deserve each other.

>>64026877
>I'M GONNA ABANDOOOOOON
#JustSMOThings

>>64024604
Brotha Numba 1.

>>64025552
For all the shit the EU gets, it really lifted up Eastern Europe to Western standards (though the Balkans and Romania and the like still have a long way to go).

SEA doesn't have something like the EU next to it, it's all a bunch of thirdie countries trying to lift themselves up by their bootstraps.

Thailand has made the most progress on a per capita basis but still pretty grim.

>>64027199
They also have China next to them which serves as a kind of debuff.

>>64027226
You don't want to depend on China for everything, it comes with strings attached. However with the trade war countries are finding themselves having to knock on Xi's door more and more.

>>64027199
Would the east asia co-prosperity sphere have helped with thailand becoming a 1st world country?

>>64027236
No, but the Trans-Pacific Partnership might have

>>64027240
Nvm, just googled it apparently Thailand never applied for it. Weird, I thought they were more US-aligned.

>>64024270
Putin broke the NAP
what you are seeing is merely a return to a long term historical trend

>>64024848
Get in the mass grave nerd

>>64027243
They already applied for membership but the TPP is effectively dead after America dropped out. The new incarnation isn't even called the TPP anymore.

>>64027236
Compared its neighbors it's basically Japan.

>>64027233
>we have to be friend with Russia so they can help us against China
>end result is China and Russia got closer while pissing off your allies and driving other countries into China's arms due to retarded tariff war

Agent Mandarin is doing works for Winnie the Pooh.

>>64027199
Thailands GDP has really slowed recently compared to the rest of SEA though.
>Thailand $7700
>Indonesia and Vietnam around $5000
>Philippines $4300
>Cambodia $2800 its all in one city
Picrel is Saigon now. Thailand is slacking hard.

The Thais are already drone dropping. man im dead. https://x.com/war_noir/status/1948403203948589563

>>64027236
Japan did actually do a massive trade and investment pivot to the ASEAN bloc starting in the 1970s and really peaked, I want to say some time in the 90s. This coincided with Japan pivoting away from certain manufacturing industries and outsourcing them in SEA. This generated a lot of good will, and legitimately was close to a legitimate co prosperity sphere as is realistic, and it generated plenty of good will. It also started the industrialization of South East Asia, which in my mind is under looked as a counterbalance to the Chinese.

In the end it led to the 1997 crash in the region, however having a finical crisis is a sign there's enough money to go around to have fiance in the first place, which the region didn't before. So all in all, yeah they kinda did.

>>64027320
*Per capita obviously.
Cambodia also has like 50 people so its useless and will get wrecked.
The countryside has not changed one bit in the last 15 years there. Its just in the capital.

>>64027085
>>64027134
From the looks of it, cambodia's getting completely sweeped. They're abandoning all their positions as Thai drone and airstrikes ramp up. Keep in mind this was hun sen's SMO to reinvigorate the Khmer Empire.

>>64024270
Declining American power

>>64025628
Even worse is that as it was made as a proper A/C (though being the smallest) instead of a LHD, it didn't have any amphibious capability whatsoever, prompting RTN to buy LPDs from Singapore and China

Also it promptes its neighbor to aspire to have their own flattop "aircraft carrier as well", sans thailand utter retardedness with not having any amphibious capability.

Singapore is looking to acquire a LHD that can launch F-35B by 2030s, Malaysia is looking at improved San Giorgio class LHD, and Indonesia is looking to buy Giuseppe Garibaldi AC

you can tell who the troll is ITT; he just posts inflammatory comments while not tagging anyone

>>64027389
>A/C
>AC
CV, dear
>it promptes its neighbor to aspire to have their own flattop "aircraft carrier as well"
wasn't a factor at all

>>64025963
Ok now I am rooting for Thailand, that's incredibly based

>>64025963
If only you knew how bad things really are.

>>64024372
Border conflicts from WW2 era mapping issues (particularly as China took over Tibet and wants more land affirmed)
Wrong on both accounts

>>64024897
>>64024914
SEA just has more people than us period, shit Singapore has more people in it than some of our states.

>>64024949
Will the Gripen lose her virginity?

>>64027966
>some
most

at 5.9 million, Singapore has more people than 30 out of 50 American states, and 25 out of 50 European countries

but Singapore is nearly irrelevant, population-wise (despite being the richest SEA nation.) the real population powerhouses are Indonesia, Thailand and Philippines; combined, these three countries have as many people as the entire European Union

>>64025310
>the worst it could happen is to be aware of drunk drivers
when I was there the bridge collapsed lmao

>>64027967
Would be funny as hell.

>>64025532
Damn impressive work by the Thais for that budget

>>64028591
the military junta is extremely powerful and they've had nearly a century of peace to accumulate arms

>>64025676
Sounds like a propaganda win for Cambodia, which is all hun sen really needs for domestic propaganda.
>they got the temple but we didn’t need it. And we sure gave them a black eye, they wont try that again!

>>64027966
>>64028049
And Philippines has 1/3 of US population with 1/30 of its size.

How many casualties on each side? Who's winning?

>>64027134
Watching thirdies chimp out and fight to the death over the less uninhabitable parts of their uninhabitable shitholes will never not be pure kino

>>64027320
Capitalism won

>>64026822
Yeah, after years of fighting and putting themselves in an unsustainable situation

>>64026203
Will each expat battalion receive its own ladyboy/green card gold digger attachment?

>>64026877
It's so Nixonover

>>64024270
Declining trust in American power and declining american power, most realize america is not like it was in the 80s to 2000s. inb4 zigger or chink, no its true

>>64024949
Keep in mind that they're being operated by monkeys. It's entirely possible that there's an Indian Rafale situation here.

>>64024240
>>64023974
>had no idea thailand had vipers

They better take good care of them and maintain them like they deserve. They better not hurt my beloved f16, perhaps my first (and only) true love although a cruel mistress at times

>>64028049
Vietnam has a larger population than Thailand and the same GDP as Philippines, which it is overtaking on growth, and is closing fast on Thailand. It is on a chinese/Taiwanese trajectory, unsurprisingly.
Before the French showed up, Vietnam and Thailand were in the long process of dividing the entire nutsack landmass between themselves and eliminating Cambodia and laos. Vietnam conquered and nearly took Cambodia permanently in the 1970-1980s before getting pressured out.
Indonesia blows everyone out of the water though.

>>64029186
total GDP is more useful for measuring the importance of a country and its government to the rest of the world

GDP per capita is more useful for measuring development

why they're not the same is that a country might have a population explosion, propelling its total GDP up, but if everyone remains the same level of dogshit poor, there's little real development

take India for example. a third of its 21st century GDP growth is wholly due to population increase.