are there people that actually buy these expensive scopes ? must be nice.

there has never been a US citizen shooting a bad guy from more than like 40 meters away like ever.
so I use a dot

>>64026733
Uhh, JFK?

>>64026741
that was like 65 meters lol

would be good for killing night predators

>>64026741
but JFK was a good guy!

>>64026733
it's literally young people with inherited money/land buying these to walk around at night on their 10acre land. It's not actually meant to be used.

>>64026728 (OP)
These are good for hunting coyotes or whatever

>>64026791
if a coyote tries to kill your cat or chickens

>>64026728 (OP)
>are there people that actually buy these expensive scopes?
Yes. But you can get into thermals or NV for much, much cheaper than that, and with rapidly improving quality as well. Same as normal optics, yeah there are super fancy ones but $400-700 will buy a shockingly good optic vs what we could get even 10 years ago.
>must be nice
Yes but maybe not as nice as you imagine.

>>64026809
8 would let them kill my cat, but I wouldn't own a cat, so checkmated myself.

>>64026845
>Yes but maybe not as nice as you imagine
This is true. Works great, but kind of a let down. You can't really walk around down town checking things out, pointing your boom stick at everything like a fucking psychotic killer.

>>64026728 (OP)
Poorfag gripe

>>64026845
>>64026870
Busting out an infographic for these. Anything with a star is recommended, diamond S-tier.
There is no reason to be buying PARD thermals when the Oneleaf is around. $1,330 with a discount code and incredibly high-specced. 640 sensor.

>>64026886
I got the OneLeaf 50mm and will likely go straight to IIT. When I have $5k just laying around.

>>64026741
>t. Allen Dulles

>>64026728 (OP)
Mainly farmers and professional hunters who get them for land management. When it's a job saving time is worth $5k or whatever. Because it's the difference between spending a week removing hogs/predators and spending a night doing it. So it pays for itself because you can do other shit with the time saved. For people who use them for fun, yeah, $5k is a lot of cash but for most dudes in their 30's and older it's quite affordable. You can also just swipe your credit card like a good slave.

>>64026940
How do you like it? Considering picking one up

>>64026940
Also curious. I few online searches turned up nothing but people shilling discount codes, sellers talking about WHAT A DEAL they were, and a few stories about the return process for crappy units.

I want to believe, but when one manufacturer is selling a unit for less than half the price of others with similar features and specs, my initial thought is that something fucky is going on in changland.

>>64026880
Was wondering how long it would be before the anons pretending to be rich showed up.

Post bank account

>>64029358
Reviews in /nvg/ are so far positive. The main theory there is that they're only breaking even or are selling at a loss to try and knock out competitors. Also potentially a front for money laundering, in which case they wouldn't need to make a profit as long as organic sales were continuous enough to provide cover.
It's similar to the SMS HFXC. Super good deal, little organic discussion. Usually means there's a catch. It's possible the specs on the Oneleaf are inflated.

>>64029417
Eh. I mean, I absolutely will acknowledge those as real possibilities. But at the same time we've seen plenty of industries where Western players have sucked so long at the gigantic MIC teat that they've gotten extremely fat and lazy, huge layers of expensive bureaucracy, big margins, and trading to larpers on brand name and OMG USED BY EL1T3 SPEC OPS D3LTA LE OPERATORS!!1! Which eventually leaves the door open to other companies to very, very seriously undermine them in a big hurry.

Like, look at holosun. Or a lot of chink optics in general. Vortex of course has made it, but not that long ago was looked down on as a cheap chink brand. /prg/ and a lot of others all recognize companies like Athlon, Meopta, Arken, EO etc as genuinely extremely competitive in value, and evolving fast. The quality glass you can get now for the $ is wild vs even a decade ago. And all of them have followed a similar path: start at basically break even with quality products because they have no brand, build recognition, and then begin to work their way up the market. There is little discussion early because they seem like yet another rando new company, the only way they can generate it is to perform ok and be very good value.

Of course could be some of column A and some of B, everyone knows lots of industries in china but also other hungry countries benefit from significant state support too. Nevertheless, if you can catch a new company in the transition phase where they are trying to jump into a higher tier of value (and thus profits), but haven't actually managed it yet so they're being super competitive, it can yield some genuinely amazing deals too. That's the essence of "disruption" in the positive sense. Give fat companies a kick in the fucking ass.

>>64026783
hahahhahahahhaha

>>64029674
The issue is that even the other Chinese brands - Infiray, RIX, Holosun, PARD - none of them deliver anything close to Oneleaf on value. The Mars is literally a $4,500 thermal for a third the price. They don't have captive markets or "operator credentials" to back them up.
I think it's possible, of course, that they're being propped up and are allowed to eat a loss, but if that were the case why aren't the other Chinese thermals getting this level of state support too? Oneleaf's entire product lineup is shitty digital NV except for this thing. Assign this sucker to Holosun and it would utterly ass-blast the thermal industry.
I think there's definitely shady shit going on in the backend, but the thermal is seemingly an excellent market disruptive unit.

>>64031361
>Oneleaf's entire product lineup is shitty digital NV except for this thing.
That should raise eyebrows.

If you protect livestock or agricultural land for a living then there's a use case for one of these imaging scopes

>>64033414
There's definitely shenanigans. Luna optics has a thermal with the same no-NUC technology but inferior specs for a a lot more.

I'd buy the Oneleaf now before whatever chicanery catches up to them, unless someone has evidence they're bullshitting specs.
One guy did partially kill his on a SCAR, but it was the mount that blew out.