go and check your shells anons, make sure you don't have asbestos ones

https://www.delawareonline.com/story/money/business/2025/07/24/dupont-9m-hunter-died-cancer-asbestos-laced-shells/85350103007/

>>64029951 (OP)
Hate to sound like a Jewish lawyer, but how the fuck do you tie asbestos bullets to the cancer outside of all the environmental and lifestyle choices?

>>64029951 (OP)
Such is life in the zigger vassal state, most """people""" there survive of sueing eachother

>asbestos in shells
#JustAmericaThings

>>64029951 (OP)
Where the fuck do you put asbestos in a Shotgun shell?

>>64029951 (OP)
>mfw I have 16ga shells from the 60s for my grandpa's 16ga.
Thanks for the free money, I guess.

>>64030150
You could replace the wax paper with some sort of asbestos-loaded composite I guess.

>>64030248
I think the wadding as well.

>>64029951 (OP)
Asbestos is only dangerous to smokers.

>>64030261
It's dangerous to everyone. Though only if inhaled. Asbestos only really poses a risk when it's degraded into dust

>>64030082
Using asbestos is the industrial equivalent to a pasty white guy saying the N word in Detroit.

>>64030308
They did it to themselves by denying and covering up the truth about it's negative health impact for decades.

>>64030290
Chronic asbestos exposure is less dangerous to a non-smoker than living with a smoker. It roughly doubles your risk of lung cancer compared to a pink-lung. A smoker, however, sees their risk of lung cancer increase 20x is routinely exposed to asbestos dust.

i like asbestos because its unpopular

>>64030350
>It roughly doubles your risk of lung cancer compared to a pink-lung.
It causes fucking asbestosis 100% of the time, purely physically, no chemical association necessary. The lung cancer is simply a malignant degeneration of the scar tissue itself.

There is no safe amount of asbestos inhalation, ALL asbestosis is chronic, and ALL asbestosis worsens WITHOUT further exposure.

It's banned for a reason, and judgements like this are completely reasonable.

>>64029951 (OP)
The awarded money to a dead guy? Shouldn't it say they awarded the money to his family instead?

>>64030232
>Tranime poster gonna get cancer
Sweet

>>64030248
>>64030258
Im still trying to wrap my head around how the fuck a manufacturer can introduce asbestos into a shotshell. Smokeless shells were either almost entirely made of paper or a cellulose based material and metal until the 60s. Then it was plastic. The only thing I could imagine being made of the forbidden cotton candy would be the fiber filler wad above the nitro card, but there's no way that would be cheaper.

>>64030290
Good thing it's not exposed to brief moments of high heat and pressure before being violently expelled from a tube alongside a significant amount of shrapnel.

>>64030082
You don't

>>64030137
>being imprisoned for speaking ill of your daughter's rapist on social media

#JustEuropeanThings

>>64030290

In its solid state, asbestos is relatively inert, it starts causing problems when it turns into powder due to age and being disturbed, at which point when inhaled, it’s a foreign body that your lungs can’t get rid of (hmmmmm… foreign substances that won’t integrate are harmful). Also 99% of asbestos alternatives are almost as bad.

t. used to work for an attorney that did asbestos-related lawsuits

>>64030290

In its solid state, asbestos is relatively inert, it starts causing problems when it turns into powder due to age and being disturbed, at which point when inhaled, it’s a foreign body that your lungs can’t get rid of (hmmmmm… foreigners that won’t integrate are harmful… I wonder what this means). Also 99% of asbestos alternatives are almost as bad.

t. used to work for an attorney that did asbestos-related lawsuits

>>64030137
you're chinese or russian

>>64030395

>>64030765
That youtube comment is factually wrong.

>>64030803
why

>>64030560
You'd be surprised how much poison they try to sneak into stuff. Look at how much your groceries have basedbean oil in them when it's not even a necessary ingredient.

I think there is no risk unless you are exposed to dense particles on a daily basis, such as in textile production sites or spraying work.

>>64030387
Pwn t3h radical left wing libcucks! Make Asbestos Great Again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POB3Dr0uonc

>>64030672
I'm slowly building up my Anne frank fag lore book. Sooner or later I'll have you cornered

>>64030290
Way more dangerous to smokers. You look at people with mesothelioma and asbestosis, they're almost always smokers.
> only if inhaled
It can fuck you up if you ingest it - different kind of cancer but the mechanism is basically the same. I've never heard of anyone getting cancer of the skin from directly handling it but asbestos warts from skin contact are a thing.
>>64030395
> fucking asbestosis 100% of the time
Nope. Occasional exposure is fine. If you live in an industrialized country, you've been exposed to it. If you don't work with it (or live with someone that works with it and they practice zero industrial hygiene) then you don't need to worry about it. OSHA treats it like nerve gas for legal purposes but generally speaking, you need to inhale a lot of it (and be a smoker) before it causes problems.
>but that one guy that drilled a hole in asbestos siding and got cancer a few years later
He got it from another source. I guarantee you.
> judgements like this are completely reasonable
Judgements like this rely on a jury of people unfamiliar with asbestos work, which this jury almost certainly was.
>t. asbestos worker

>>64029951 (OP)
>Asbestos-laced shells
Shit sounds like the kind of thing you used to hear about back in the 50s when things like "safety" and "public health" were regarded as communist subversion.

I have a job that involves washing brake-dust caked bus rims. I use a pressure washer and a brush with soapy water.
It’s my understanding that the brake pads are not asbestos but I also don’t fully trust that that’s the case. Also that the non-asbestos brake pads are almost as bad regardless.
Have I likely been getting asbestos/asbestos alternative exposure?
I spray the rims with the pressure washer and then I brush them, sometimes having to use a scotch pad to clean the really baked on dust. Then of course I pressure washer them clean. I’ve been doing it for 4 years now a few buses a week.

John Rambo here from cowboy kentucky oblast and I am very demoralized now

>>64031269
>anything negative must be the work of a troll
retard

>>64031224
>brake pads are not asbestos
If you're in America, they banned them back in the '70's, so you wouldn't see many of those today. If you're dealing with brake pads made overseas, you pays your money and you takes your chances. According to the EPA, best practice is to assume that all brake pads contain asbestos, but they're overly cautious about things like that.
>non-asbestos brake pads are almost as bad
Probably. Remember, asbestos was safe until it wasn't. Crystalline silica was also safe until recently, and now it kills you. When I was a kid, margarine and sugar were healthy and animal products were unhealthy. The longer we do things, the more that we learn about them.
>Have I likely been getting asbestos/asbestos alternative exposure?
If you have, it wasn't enough to worry about. There's enough of that shit floating around in the air in any urban area that any additional exposure that you possibly got would be a rounding error. Spraying off the dust with a pressure washer isn't great, but the soapy water is no problem as long as you don't drink it afterwards. We actually use soapy water (known in the trade as "amended water," probably because it sounds special) to wet down asbestos prior to removal in order to keep the fibers out of the air.
>t. same asbestos worker as before

BTW tangentially related but carbon fiber and fiberglass dust are both also horrid for your lungs. Treat them with respect

>>64031224
Just wear a gasmask.

>>64031419
isn't that's what used in mask filters?

>>64031339
>Crystalline silica
They still put that shit in diatomaceous earth which messes up you lungs big time.

>>64031224
>works around dust
>doesn't wear a respirator
?????

>>64030261
It's a bunch of tiny mineral fibres that will cut your insides to shreds, smoking has nothing to do with that.

>>64031173
Juries are retarded. See also: the talcum powder lawsuit

>>64031632
Particulate filters are just paper quite often, so I would say nope.

>>64030615
I mean, if you include UK as "European", then sure.

>>64031173
>>t. asbestos worker
OK "asbestos worker", the entire point of eliminating hazards like asbestos from society in general is because maintaining "industrial hygiene" on the part of EVERYONE EVERYWHERE FOREVER is NOT POSSIBLE.

It's impossible to be harmed by an appropriately shielded radiation source, do you want to know what happens when appropriately shielded radiation sources are forgotten about, and allowed to fall into the general public's hands? It's broken open, little children end up playing in it, and sprinkling it on their sandwiches.

If you think asbestos is an appropriate material to distribute in residential areas, or blow out the end of a shotgun wherever you might use a shotgun, you're a fucking retard. It IS NOT POSSIBLE to maintain hazard vigilance in the general public ESPECIALLY when the hazard isn't intuitive.

>>but that one guy that drilled a hole in asbestos siding and got cancer a few years later
>He got it from another source. I guarantee you.
Why are you desperate to steer this conversation to cancer? People with asbestosis can never get cancer and still be rendered dependent on oxygen for the rest of their lives, or suffocate in their sleep if their lungs fill with fluid. It's essentially a lifelong pneumonia by itself, no cancer necessary. That's a far more common outcome than lung cancer, that's what MOST people with asbestosis suffer from and die of, not lung cancer.

>>64032340
>wikipedia
>source: gay race communism think tank

>>64030258
>>64030248
Its going to scour the barrel, its like shooting gravel or sand. The one not-so-bad-for-gun use i guess it could be fiber reinforcement for case plastic. Still its insane. Some sort of "how do we get rid of this? Shoot it out of a gun!" conversation I guess.

>>64030082
Until proven otherwise, mesothelioma is caused by Asbestos exposure. You can also sometimes still find the fibers years later in the sputum (see picture).

>>64032398
>The one not-so-bad-for-gun use i guess it could be fiber reinforcement for case plastic.
That's almost word-for-word what I said. The part of the shell that's usually plastic these days used to be made of wax paper so as to have a somewhat water resistant material for that purpose. Plastics eventually became cheap and available so the wax paper was discarded in favor of it.

>>64030615
the projection is real lmao

>>64032340
>little or no censorship
>Australia
>Germany
lol

>>64031197
> "were"
Anon ... emperor elon and his orange cucktard took a chainsaw to the EPA. We're living in a whole new timeline for the next several decades now. Asbestos is just the tip of the iceberg.

Someone got lost on their way to r/politics

>>64031224

any fine fiber or dust entering your lungs is bad it just asbestos is especially fucked so wear a respirator if you are breathing it in.

Also if anons need another reason to hate lawyers there are law firms who specialize in defending against mesothelioma and black lung claims. Their main tactic is stringing the case out long enough with bullshit so the claimant dies before a judgement.

@Grok, is this true?

>>64032386
You appear to be having a melty. Your post is a bit incoherent but I think I can parse it. Let me know if I missed anything.
>OK "asbestos worker"
You don't have to put quotes around it like a redditor or a faggot. I work with asbestos on a regular basis as part of my job. By "work with," I mean removing it from legacy installations to facilitate other work. It's part of the insulation trade. I've received formal training on how to do this, I'm required to get annual refresher training (that's arbitrarily long and padded out due to OSHA fiat), and there's a written process that I have to follow. I've been doing it for 16 years.
>you think asbestos is an appropriate material to distribute in residential areas
In some cases, absolutely. Asbestos siding is fucking amazing. It lasts forever.
>or blow out the end of a shotgun wherever you might use a shotgun
Not a great idea, but I'm willing to bet that Mr. Shoepke was a lifelong smoker and was either involved in some form of asbestos exposure professionally for a period of time or was shooting thousands of these shotgun shells a year. I realize that "the science" (I'm using quotes here because a lot of it is bullshit) states that no amount of asbestos expsoure is safe, even though OSHA's PEL allows for a small amount of exposure for asbestos workers that's considered safe. If you worked in the trade and saw the older guys with health issues, you'd notice certain trends - long chronic exposure and lifelong smokers, every time.
>desperate to steer this conversation to cancer
Google mesothelioma, you fucking retard. And look up pleural thickening while you're at it. One of us is an expert here and it's not you.

You have been exposed to asbestos more than once. Yes, you personally. You might be inhaling a few fibers this very moment. Your home probably contains some. It's not going to kill you unless you work with it for a living.

>>64029951 (OP)
>get shot with asbestos round
>dies from cancer
kekews

>>64033149
>First responders doing their job is a conspiracy

>>64033257
>Your home probably contains some
Not him but, fucking no? It's literally illegal to use any asbestos in buildings after 90s

>>64033257
>Your home probably contains some
legally it can't.

>>64033257
>Your home probably contains some.
I'm 32 and no home I've ever lived in has ever had asbestos in it.
>inb4 "hurdy durr, you'd be surprised"
No, I won't be, I know it for a fact. Asbestos has been eliminated from the built environment where I live for a long time. This is true not just in much of America, but most of the world.
>even though OSHA's PEL allows for a small amount of exposure for asbestos workers that's considered safe
Yeah, because if they don't define limits then they release companies from liability, and if they defined the limit as zero then all asbestos work (including removal/disposal) would be made financially untenable, because then any worker could get exposed to any amount, and the company now has a judgement/settlement and two sets of lawyers to pay.

>>64030308
>a pasty white guy saying the N word in Detroit.
Hey that's me

>>64030765
If it's not harmful then why did the US ban chrysotile asbestos early last year?

>>64033257
You're fucking retarded and have fallen for your employer's lies about your job and your exposure to asbestos being safe.
If you want to drown in your own bed a couple decades from now because you're too chickenshit to stand up for yourself and your own health, fine, but stop acting like asbestos isn't an absolute fucking nightmare to deal with in basically any setting/application it has ever been used in.
I'm an commercial/industrial sparky, and I've seen you "asbestos workers" in the wild before, hundreds of times, you're all fucking druggies that wear 0 PPE and take 0 precautions while haphazardly tearing asbestos board or insulation out of walls and chucking it into the back of their unmarked box truck to be dumped in some random dumpster.

>>64033257
>Accuses the other poster of having a metly
>he is in fact the one having a melty

>>64030308
https://customtileroofing.com/products/transite-asbestos-tile