The sharpest general on /k/.
Estate sale edition!

>"Yeah, baby, I know this KA-BAR belonged to your grandpa, but your dad with dementia just sold it to me for $14 and an expired Walmart deli sandwich. Oh, it's a priceless family heirloom? That's so cool! I'll remember that when I'm overhand throwing it at raccoons! By the way, your dad's eating a sandwich with mold in it, you should go tell him to stop."

"I want a knife recommendation."
Answer the following:
>Fixed or folding (or both (or neither))?
>Intended use/misuse?
>Blade length/girth?
>Local laws to ignore?
>You can afford this knife! Think of how much money you spend on food and water. Do you really need it? What about air conditioning? You can just turn it off and spend all that money on a knife! Do you really NEED air conditioning? Stop being a big baby, you can afford this knife!

Resources
>Freehand sharpening guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWU_qTp3DLM >Primer on knife steels
https://knifesteelnerds.com/2021/10/19/knife-steels-rated-by-a-metallurgist-toughness-edge-retention-and-corrosion-resistance/

Last Thread: >>63951123

Would it be legal to carry a 2 inch keychain knife in Australia?

The blade on my Swiss army knife is longer and those are also designed to be carried on a keychain, although I heard about an elderly guy who got charged for having one of those in Sydney as part of an anti-knoife crackdown. I have no idea if laws like this are only used against people acting like maniacs in public or if any random person could realistically get in trouble.

>>64031664 (OP)
Picked up a Rexford ZT 0804 for $50 today. The listing just said
>9”Black Military Tactical Style Folding Pocket Knife From Estate Blade Sharp!
Yes, "blade sharp" indeed. I thought these kinds of deals only happen in knife guy fantasy land, but it happened to me. Pics were shit, but I knew what I was looking at. Estate sales are awesome.

>>64031865
Lots of Chinese clones email zt and check the serial #. But if real super nice find.

>>64031862
>Would it be legal to ___ in Aus-
No.

>>64031898
The 0804CR is pretty rare today after they were discontinued. It was never a popular model, and only done as a collaboration, so idk if any Chinese clones exist. They only really copy the popular models.
It's confirmed to come from an estate sale. The description reads like the seller is huffing paint, but he accurately describes how the action is supposed to feel, and I think he's too stupid to lie.
No box or paperwork, so I'll definitely want to have ZT take a look, but I'm pretty confident in this one. Will update /kg/ when the knife comes in!

Any one have any good experience with custom knife people on etsy? I like some of the little things they offer but idk I've never used that site b4.

>>64032071
I mostly do antiques, so etsy can be fun, but more expensive.
I like designer knives, but they have to go the distance, because anyone can glue two pieces of wood to a sheet of metal and sell it as a knife these days. Signature stamps make me happy, and I also like the use of different bespoke metals. That's what I would look for in a custom knife.

>>64032057
I have a 0804 and I've only ever seen the CF pattern on them. You say you don't know if clones exist but you seem to have posted a pic of what seems to be a peelply G10 handle which is what some videos in search results have when I do a search for "Zero Tolerance 0804 clone"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ec_CGYWSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IMPEMBugNs

>>64032243
hell naw it's probably made from 440A(ss) Chinese mystery metal that's gonna snap the second I throw it at a tree, because that's what I'm gonna do with it I'm gonna throw it at a fucking tree! Shit, I thought I hit the jackpot. Fuck bro. Fuck this shit I'm going back to antique knives. Will still post pics when it arrives.

>>64032071
I've had good experience with custombladeseu on Etsy, but he only makes sharpened blades. You have to add your own scales. This means his prices are pretty reasonable. For example, I recently bought an 8.5 inch blade, full tang leuku from him for $48. I think he only makes blades out of 80CrV2 which is fine by me because I like that steel. He also has a vid on youtube showing how he makes the blades and heat treating, but I don't remember the link. He's a Polish guy in Poland, but he ships to the US.

All you need is the word, your service crucifix, and a Benchmade.

Alright /kg/, help me decide which one of these will be my new edc knifery

>get in stock notice from DLT
>Ultratech, single edge, orange handle
>$310.00

no_way_fag.jpg

>>64031664 (OP)
>The most boring general on /k/.
It's just a knife.
>Buy knife
>repeat
>cut shit
>done
JFC.

>>64034297
>Buy gun
>repeat
>shoot shit
>done
JFC.

>>64035091
Yes, /arg/ is even more insufferable.

>>64034297
I think knives are more interesting because we use them more often. Yeah, you might be using it for gardening or box-opening or whatever, but it's still a nice thing that you can carry around and use every day.

>>64031664 (OP)
>Do you wanna know how I got these scars?
>My father was a drinker...and a FIEEEND.
>And one night, he goes off craaaazier than usual.
>Mommy gets the kitchen knife to defend herself.
>He doesn't like THAT.
>Not...one...BIT.
>So, me watching, he takes the knife from her, laughing while he does it.
>He turns to me, and he says,
>"Why so serious?"
>He comes at me with the knife
>"Why so serious?"
>He sticks the blade in my mouth
>"Let's put a smile on that face!"

>>64036196
What a loss.

>>64034297
You need a few covid boosters to bump your raads score up.

>>64037503
Not gonna happen, I sell unvaxed sperm.

Can anyone tell me anything about these HOKC (NOKS) knives? Found images of the box confirming they're made in China, but apparently of good build quality and cheap. "D2 steel" might be a bit of a lie, but I hear good things. Are they just tacticool trash or are they worth having?

>>64032708
i have an air lite and finn wolf and while the finn wolf is oddly cool , it's not really for edc , it's for the woods, scandi grind is great for working with wood but for slicey knife stuff it stinks.
Air lite is probably my fav cold steel pocket knife. It's not crazy overbuilt like a lot of their stuff so it's slim, lite and slicey and it's like $40-55. I'm not prying stuff, stabbing car hoods or hanging 600 lbs off of it to test the lock on it either.
I don't have any experience with the other knives to comment. My .02

>>64034297
>>64035124
You're so cool and above it all!

>>64032708
Böker

>>64038172
I've seen images occasionally but never watched a review. Russian designed/inspired knives (they have a modernized Finka for example) made in China.
I honestly doubt the D2 is a lie. it's not an expensive steel and very common these days

ßtäb

>>64041264
Knife to meet you.

My EDC

>>64039878
Found their modernized Finka model (ФИHКA-C), just happened to be the cheapest one I could fine. Apparently all of these are "A. Biryukov" designs, but yes, they're made in China. D2 steel, G10 handle, which is interesting because it's a composite material like micarta or pakkawood. Kinda wish I got the orange and black version to show off the composite layers, because I like when they do that.
Might give this one away and go for the orange handle if I end up liking it.

>>64038182
Yes, thx.

> went to gun show
> multiple goddamn tables of old Microtechs

I nearly cummed in my pants.

I have disassembled, cleaned, and lubed my bestech swordfish for the second time in 3 years. It got sand in it again. Why does this thing get sand in it so easily? I'm too lazy to replace it but still

>>64046074
I got my first microtech about a month ago (utx-85 gen 3) and now im hooked. I got this troodon and a couple more coming in the mail and currently waiting for single edge 85g3's. I have tried a bunch of other otfs and they just aren't on the level. I mean sure, Kershaw Livewire is reliable, better blade steel, pretty much equal build quality, but after getting accustomed to the way microtech blades satisfyingly click into place almost like a cassette going into a VHS player, it made me really hyper sensitive of the feeling of steel violently slamming into aluminum on the livewire every time it fires or retracts... the product of 3 decades of dialing in their action compared to Kershaw's first attempt is so apparent. It's a shame because the Livewire is legitimately good, the action just feels bad to me now.

As for my Lightning and SoS otfs, there's no comparison. The Lightning body feels like pot metal and the SoS action is so weak it fails to retract upside-down 3/10 times.

>>64032512
fuck off with your apple of knives.

>>64031664 (OP)
i only buy chink clones, are the otf clones any good?

>>64031664 (OP)
I am in the market for a butterfly knife.
I just want something to flip around.
Is there a good quality balisong to be had for around $100?
I've been scouring the internet but would prefer /k/'s opinion.
>balisongs are retarded and have no use
Yes, I know. I've received an inheritance and just want to splurge.

>>64046564
Is this any good? Not familiar w/ Bear and Son.

Digging the Bear Ops Bear Song VIII.
A bit over my budget, but the reviews are good.

>>64046564
>>64046587
>>64046613
Wayne.. you live in a shed and need foodstamps to survive.
Just focus on finding employment.
Retard.

I bought a Gerber Strongarm from AliExpress about a year ago. It's taken several beatings and it's still holding up strong. Haven't sharpened it and it's still cutting perfectly.
Someone told me Gerber has factories in the East that still manufacture the same level of quality but without the QoL shit that people are nitpicky about. How true is this?

>>64031664 (OP)
I'm sick of the whetstone. Is there a sharpener that you guys would recommend?

>>64046659
spyderco sharpmaker
you will be limited to 30 and 40 degree edges

>>64046646
>AliExpress
no one in the USA has heard of this outside of an investment opportunity

>>64046717
>spyderco sharpmaker
Hey, thanks.
>limited to 30* and 40*
How do I know if this is important to me? Will those angles work for normal kitchen cutlery?

luv me moras. Good knifes with even gooderer bang for buck. The rat tail aspect is so negligible that I often forget it even has one, a full replacement costs LESS than getting even a middle of the shelf knife repaired. Extremely costumer favoured warranty and no dumbass 'political' moving's or motivations, just knives. They aren't the 'best' and they don't curry the tactical crowd anywhere near as much as benchmade or gerber, but mora is fucking king shit and I won't ever pretend it isn't.

>>64046751
30 degrees is for the back bevel, 40 degrees is for the very edge, or microbevel. I got my Buck 117 hair-whittling sharp on it with just the stones that came with it, no ultrafine stones required. I went and checked my Buck 110 that I had sharpened with it previously, and it was also hair-whittling sharp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LBDnJv5B58

>>64046751
Kitchen knives are supposed to be 30 degrees.

>>64046771
>>64046766
checked
Hell yeah, thanks anon. I'll probably grab one of these.

>>64046783

>>64046564
Bear & son is literally garbage.
Here's the best budget bali, with $100 you can grab both a trainer and a live blade. May as well.

https://nabalis.com/collections/new-canyon-collection

>have buddy over
>"Why you so interested in knives anon?"
>"Because.." (proceed to pull out the boxes with all my knifes)
>Proceed to show of each knife and explain its name and usage like he even asked for that
> fixed blade knife from kenya is not opening from ebony wood sheath
>pull with more force
>proceed to stop the knife showcase early because i sliced of half of my finger with mystery steel blade from kenya
>spend next 4h in ER to get stitched up

sucks, because i wanted to show the rest of my collection...

>>64047526
does your buddy like knives yet?

>>64046659
Get a good quality strop.
The beavercraft double sided is affordable and you can use one side for compound.

Left handed knife recs? I'm seeing benchmade and spyderco as pretty much the only big brands that have a clip that can be moved to the opposite side, are there any other lefties that carry different stuff?

>>64048771
Not a lefty, but some of Kershaw's stuff have reversible pocket clips, like the Shuffle, Shuffle 2 and Hotwire. OKC also had the RAT 1 and 2, which have reversible pocket clips AND holes for both tip down and tip up carry.

>>64048771
Get a full left-handed knife, don't compromise. I've only seen Spydercos.

>>64031865
Damn dude, very nice cop. I really regret not nabbing a 0560 when I could.

>>64046095
Love mine, since about filename.dat.

>>64048932
>>64032243
>>64032270
Oh, nevermind.

>>64034297
So fuck off, faggot.

>>64048856
There are tons of knives with ambidextrous locks (all the crossbar and mid/back locks) with 2 or even 4 way positional clips, seems silly to stick with strictly left hand ones especially since I (and you apparently) can only think of Spydercos that do that.
>>64048771
Offhand I can think of Boker, Kershaw and Cold Steel that have ambidextrous locks and 2+ position clips. I'm sure there are lots of budget brand knives (Civivi, etc) with crossbar locks that also have reversible clips, I just can't think of any off the top of my head.

>>64046095
>only a few months since i've serviced my irida
>clip is already bent back out

>>64048964
>>64048837
The Kershaw Iridium look pretty neat and seems like a bugout but without the Benchmade markup. Thanks for the recs anons appreciate it a lot.

>"Sharpen" knife on whetstone
>Dull
>Sharpen knife on diamond stone
>Workable but not truly sharp
>Sharpen knife on diamond stone and finish knife on strop with compound
>Can finally shave
It's such a simple thing to be so satisfying. Now to get gud so I can get that sharp on just the stone and then go even sharper.

>>64049740
Good looking knife, I like the blade shape. Only $67.

>>64049759
I have a CRKT Otanashi Noh Ken I used a pull-through on years ago, and it has been a project trying to get an edge on it. It's like the pull through dulled the edge, but left a burr that could cut paper so I thought it was ok at the time. Just have to get it to an apex at a consistent angle, but it's a reprofiling job to get to that point.

What blade is this? Looks almost like a SRK but are those even available in Krautistan

>>64050141
Doesn't look like an SRK to me, it's more like a bowie/mall ninja combat knife with uncoated edges where a SRK is either fully coated or not coated at all

>>64046123
autistic faggot
i appreciate microtechs build but eh it's not amazing especially now, the double spring action they're putting on their new knives with 0 blade play blows, i got a combat troodon and a vector from the 2000's they feel insanely better compared to most recent ones

now i just keep a scarab 2 gen 3 for work cuz it's convenient but gen3 lowkey blows the action sucks it gets stuck way more than it should for such an expensive knife

i hate to be the boomer but microtech used to be better, now it's for faggots that watch john wick 5 times and whine on reddit

>>64050222
Checked, Mahmoud did some damage with it either way

>>64050470
I have single spring otfs and they feel kinda stiff and cheap. I vastly prefer the dual spring action but this seems to be preference. I haven't tried a single spring microtech though. They all get stuck if you work around a lot of dust or other such filth, even hawk deadlocks so price doesnt mean much there. Just gotta maintain them.

Idk what to say to the rest, im not a John Wick fan and I barely visit plebsit. Otfs I just find enjoyable.

Oh yeah be sure to do the brake cleaner rem oil combo on your scarab if it hasn't been serviced in forever.

>>64050623
my scarab is being taken care of just fine the issue i have with the recent double spring otf from microtech is if you hold them at some angle it fails to fire or retract i guess bc the springs dont send it as hard as the big one of prev ones

the failing to fire and retract is on double springs CT gen3 and also the scarab gen3, i think the newer ultratechs too i forgot

>>64050700
My troodon and utx85 have never failed to deploy except when I forced them to fail. Thousands of actuations without an issue. I wonder if its an early batch problem or just a general quality control problem I avoided due to my small sample size and a little luck

>>64050767
try firing them upward with some tilt and retracting them facing down also with a weird tilt to it, two springed ones usually have two failure points like this its weird, and hard to describe

might be right though as i had all of those about a year ago, but they all had that issue

>>64032512
Does anyone make a knife with a crucifix in handle?

Luv me knife
>simple az

>>64051222
checked that thing looks crazy

but usually

>>64051443
this is optimal attack style

>>64051222
That's a fucking steak knife you autistic retard.

>>64032512
What model?

>>64032708
None of the above. Get a Spyderco if you like stainless or a Kershaw or (US made) Gerber for carbon

>>64047526
Based autist flexing on normies by oversharing your hobby

>>64051222
>>64051729
No, it actually is a real hunting knife! It's a Cutco hunting knife. They're available on their website for $248. They're made from a "high carbon" 440A, and the handle is thermoplastic that they've been using for a while now, which sounds horrible until you use one and realize that they're actually kind of nice! The hunting knife is sort of a joke, they use 440A and this handle style for all their kitchenware.
Cutco used to (and probably still does) operate as a pyramid scheme. All the Cutco you find in the wild were, at some point, forced upon a family member for an outrageous price. They're probably sitting on a ridiculous stockpile of these knives, and they control the quantity that hits the market just like De Beers does with diamonds, which is really fucking weird for a company that just does mid-range kitchenware but clearly it's working.

>>64046659
>I'm sick of the whetstone
I would recommend the whetstone. It's just better, and it will take off the least amount of metal for the best grind, you have more control over the angle, you can even get yourself angle guides to be sure.
I personally use a guided angle sharpener like pic related, it's good enough if you have a moderate restaurant-level workload, but a professional will use something like a Tormek T4

>>64052983
fascinating backstory

>>64053546
>whetstone with angle guide
hmm interesting, I hadn't considered something like that. Thank you.

>>64050779
You had me curious and I recently got a couple more combat troodon gen 3's and did some test firing. The double-edged dagger fired 100 times out of the box pointing up for firing retracting pointing down at all angles no issue, but the drop point? I did notice there were certain times like 1 in 20 upside-down retractions where it would fail, and sometimes it felt weak like it almost failed. I thought maybe I got a dud so I checked my other Drop Point CT I already owned and it did the same. I thought okay so the issue is exclusive to drop points. What is going on here?

I realized that the amount of "skeleton" i had behind the blade was less when I held it upside-down, and the retractions were causing the blade to jerk downwards more than when I was firing upwards. The drop point blade either has more friction or is simply heavier and is jerking the handle harder. So anyway I grabbed the knife handle with my other hand to brace it better while retracting upside-down and both drop points handled 100 retractions for 200 total with zero failures or even weak retractions.

I believe what you were having happen was that at those certain "problem angles" were angles where your arm had little structural support behind the knife while retracting, so the handle jumped forward more and induced a failure. This is also probably why I cannot recreate the issue whatsoever on my little utx-85.

What's the deal with single spring being more reliable? This is pure guesswork but my guess would be since it is harder to actuate you grip the knife handle harder and this provides sufficient support for retracting at all times, the looser dual springs mean looser grip means more handle movement in reaction to retracting.

If you can recreate the failure in your scarab while holding the knife more still with your other hand or just squeezing it like you were holding a 2010 model, I'd be really interested to hear if yours still fails. This might all just be a massive cope.

What's a good fixed blade panic-sticking into an animal's guts as it's violently dragging me through the woods?

>>64055243
Bayonet attached to a rifle.

>>64055266
Sounds kind of hard to use while being dragged on the ground by an animal.

>>64055274
Skill issue desu

>>64055243
Just try not to break it.

>>64055293
>plain edge
>thumbnail looks serrated
Boring.

Can't choose between these two RATs

>RAT 1.5 MagnaCut
>RAT 2 S35VN

Both around 100 bucks

>>64057139
Magnacut is very heat treatment dependant, if it's not minimum 62hrc I wouldn't touch it

>>64057691
apparently it's 63-63HRC, is that fine?

I had a dream tonight that Victorinox stopped making pocketknives because they chose to go into the business of making pickled vegetables instead.
They weren't even tasty, very underseasoned.

>>64057729
Absolutely. 62-63hrc is where you want to be for magnacut in a small knife. The only time anything should be under that is for large fixed blades that are gonna be beat on. Go for it.

>>64057769
kek

>>64055063
tfw i lip wristed my CT

ill try it, i need to do a deep clean of my scarab and i dont have my ct rn
my guess was that yeah more friction and at a certain angle the blade might be too heavy, noting my CT and scarab were only drop points

might eb a bit of both, whats weird is it doesnt happent straight up or straight down, it's always pointing forward a bit, but i'll try that out yeah

>>64051980
I'm looking to get a budget edc knife that's cheap enough not to worry if something happens to it but good enough quality for everyday use.
I'm not the biggest fan of cold steel but they do offer decent quality for their price. For the price of a spyderco with 8Cr13MoV steel you can get a cold steel in aus10a.
I'd love to get something in s35vn or s30v, but I just can't afford it right now

>>64059282
buy this and save up for a secondhand spyderco or zero tolerance. dont bother with shitters.

>>64059282
Most variants are gonna be a bit outside your budget since (compared to prices in and around their country of origin) they're less of a bargain in the US, but have a look at the Fox Vulpis anyhow. It's in the style of a swiss army knife but with either colorful aluminum scales and N690 blade or titanium/cf scales and M390 and a choice of tools from blade only to what's seen in pic related

>>64059282
How about sub-$100 magnacut at 63-64 hrc? At this hardness it has the edge retention of S90V, the corrosion resistance of M390, and still significantly better chip resistance than both, on a shoestring budget.

https://www.bladehq.com/item--Ontario-Knife-Company-RAT-Model-1-5-Black-G10--209530

The only practical reason I can think to buy anything else is if you need an absolutely brutal use knife, then Cold Steel is always on the list.

>>64059221
Yeah after more testing friction caused by angle, gravity, momentum of the handle caused by a naturally looser grip caused by an easier to fire button, these things all appear to be exacerbating each other. I don't know if just squeezing it tighter will solve the issue completely. If the dual spring action is actually weaker (many reviewers say it's the same, some users say it's weaker, no one seems to have objectively measured it) it may just be a flaw of the design and you're right. Anyway it's pretty easy to just not retract is upside-down at weird angles but also disappointing if you can't reliably.

>>64061504
yeah it's a trivial issue now im also happy you confirmed im not schizo

but again those kind of issues should have been solved at the conception of the knife when theyre in such a price range

>>64055243
Look into pig sticker knives, such as this one by Frederich Dick. They are designed for sticking into animals.

Do you put lanyards on your pocket tools or is that for /bumpkins/ and /scout troop elders/ only?

>>64062737
That just looks like crap that's going to get caught on something either inside or dangling out of my pocket. If I were to use a lanyard at all it'd be a loop for securing the knife to my wrist so I can't drop it, and that would be twice as bad at not getting caught on something. I don't usually use my knives or multitools in situations where dropping them would be more than a mild annoyance so no lanyard for me.

>>64062737
I will lanyard them to my belt sometimes so they dont dissappear themselves

Thoughts on the mini bedlam? Im liking the scimitar style knives lately

>>64062982
This will cut silt fence well

>>64062901
I have been playing around with the IMI lanyard for securing gear. It’s one of the simpler lanyards out there.

>>64063021
Thats it?

>>64062628
not that anon, but I ordered a couple Swiss bayonets like that. I can't wait, dang it.

Does this count for /kg/?

>>64062628
for some, there's nothing better in life than sticking their Dick into wild animals

>bought the Para 3 because all the reviews claimed it had the "perfect handle size, even for big hands"
>finally arrives
>turns out to be 100% bullshit
>pinky finger has nothing to grip
>could have bought the Para 2 instead

Small handed men should NOT be allowed to review knives.

I will soon be the owner of this lovely little knife.

>>64064205
That sucks dude, give it to me and treat yourself to a para2

>>64064205
I have big hands and still love my para3. Para2 is simply too large to EDC unless you are p rural. Living anywhere where there are more people per acre than cows, you don't need a larger daily folder than Para2 and even that is pushing it.
What are you cutting that you need a full 4-finger purchase? Opening Amazon boxes? Cutting tags off of new clothes? Sheesh.

>>64064381
NTA but I find the pinky enhances fine control/precision over the blade compared to what you can do with three fingers. Torque is not the full story.

>>64062737
I don't see a purpose for it really, but if I got a Sebenza I would trust Chris Reeve's judgment. It helps extract.

>>64062901
You might want to drop it if you trip on something.

>>64064205
My guess is big hands fit the millie well, are too big for pm2 in hammer grip, but you can kind of palm the para 3.

>>64064205
>Small handed men should NOT be allowed to review knives.
every reviewer has small hands. When they wear "large size gloves" even, they are embellishing. gotta look at a size comparison or break out a ruler. You can get the specs and measure a pic of it out to life size on your computer screen.

>>64064381
That's why you carry a little knife too, not to scare people, but you still have a big one just in case.

/kg/