Instead of buying A29s or crop duster, why the US can't produce a new P-51 variant with new composite materials and avionics? Also new engine.
This beauty would mop the floor of A29s or another similar aircraft.

>>64040073 (OP)
>spend $0 new money and continue producing a plane that works fine
Or
>spend millions of new money to design and build new equipment for a plane that might perform better at crop dusting

OP the math ain't mathing here.

>>64040073 (OP)
How many times are you gonna make this kind of threads?
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63323496/#63324783
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/63323496/#q63329460

The Super Tucano is exactly what you said and there's a production line already, so it would be cheap just produce the ST in Sierra Nevada

I want the same thing but it's different. I love sage green.

>>64040095
it's kinda funny to read posts from people who really have no idea how much it costs to do anything

A29 can carry 4000 lbs of fuel or ordinance, the P51 2000 lb, despite this the A29 is only a fraction slower than the P51 and about as maneuverable. It is like 2 P51s fitted for ground attack for the price of 1.

>>64040073 (OP)
>new composite materials and avionics? Also new engine.

This is already 80% of the design. By that stage you have a totally new plane.

>>64040073 (OP)
Been there, done that. Went about as well as you'd expect.
Looks cool tho
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer

>>64040073 (OP)
simply cannot be done
there are unfortunately no english-speaking young women with torpedo tits in Inglewood who want to assemble p51s anymore
yep.

>>64040633
damn they really did everything during the cold war

>>64040671
Yeah.
>USS Essex fate: sold for scrapping on 1 June 1975

>>64040686
:(

>>64040633
OP here
Thanks for the info anon
Way to go USA, decide to buy brapzilian aircraft instead of national (and better) aircrafts

>>64040633
IIRC They actually worked really well. The air force just had other priorities and decided they wouldn't buy them. Pretty similar to what happened with the last light attack program.

>>64040098
Hate the A10. Hate the C130 gunship. Luv the Tucano. Simple as.

>>64040073 (OP)
P-47 would be better suited

>>64040827
The problem was even if it worked really well, it just wasn't an attractive product. Fellow PAVE COIN/Project little brother aircraft the Fairchild AU-23A and Helio AU-24 were actually procured, at least in small numbers.
In it's final form the PA-48 was hardly even a mustang anymore, being something around 90-95% an original aircraft.
The whole thing only lived as long as it did because the guy lobbied hard for it but neither the USAF or any foreign buyers bit on the likely now quite expensive finished product

>>64040633
sexooo

>>64040839
You over edited the quality, and now the photo looks shit. A-29 of the Philippine Air Force.

>>64042556
people don't appreciate the grain of photos (but they like the artificial grain in films)

The Mustang was very vulnerable to a single rifle shot from beneath. It's oil cooler was easy to see and hit from the ground. If struck, oil would quickly deplete and the engine seize up. P-51 was a lovely fighter and strafer of hapless unarmed civilians but it was a lousy ground attack aircraft in contested environments.

>>64041867
It is nice looking.
Here's it's predecessor. They actually sold some of these because it was just a cheap somewhat souped up surplus mustang that first flew in 1958 instead of an expensive turboprop mustang of theseus that saw it's first flight in 1971

What about the A-1 Skyraider?

>>64042578
Not the super tucano. Just the regular EMB-312 Tucano

>>64040073 (OP)
P51's have an inate ability to go into a deadly spiral dive and have crashed many times as that result post WW2

They should just make new or fix and bring back OV-10 Broncos imo.

>>64048266
It was proposed at some point but knocked out early.
Restarting production would probably be too expensive

>>64048275
There's a newer company trying to market a long duration, optionally manned aircraft similar to the OV-10. Icarus Aerospace, but it's all just viewgraphs so far, no public hardware.

P38. I want a P38.

>cheap to operate
>massive commercial support
>actual cabin can be configured for transport of personnel and cargo, C2, medevac
>not a taildragger
>easy to fly in general
>combat proven
>cheap to operate

Stand aside, HOMOSEXUAL IN-LINE ENGINE SHITS

>>64040073 (OP)
Because the P51 is a dogfigther.
And there is no need for a prop figther.

Instead, they should upgrade this.
Make it larger, add a bigger engine.
More payload, more armor, more guns.

>>64040073 (OP)
Your lack of adequate reformation misses the target by decades, you disgust me.

>>64048266
Sad to say the last OV-10s in service have been retired by the Philippine Air Force in December 2024 before announcing that they will procure more A-29 Super Tucanos as replacement.

>>64049768
Skraider is already too big and thirsty for the job

>>64042570
>>64042574
>>64042578
why the different canopy bow?

>>64053411
Super Tucano vs Tucano (last one)

>>64049768

Uhm wait the skyradier has a tiny door with a porthole in the side of the aircraft? Why ?

>>64055955
Radio/ radar operator.

>>64049760
fat fuck

Bring him back

>>64056528

>>64056535

>>64048985
AFSOC alreadt uses these, right?
What was this long airtractor/tucano saga even about?
Does the caravan just require too much runway?

>>64042619
Holy sex

>>64060703
>AFSOC alreadt uses these, right?
Not that I know of
>What was this long airtractor/tucano saga even about?\
Waste taxpayer money. The Sky Warden is the NGSW program of the air, but somehow came up with an even dumber outcome.
>Does the caravan just require too much runway?
I don't think so but I don't have the data.

>>64040669
Man, bring back bullet bras.

>>64040633
I didn't know this existed
Sexy ass plane

>>64040073 (OP)
I have a better facetious idea anon, why not take a P-51 and spend ludicrous amounts of money to make it stealth.

>>64064182
The company started out converting them to GA aircraft but later found a market supplying them to a handful of thirdie airforces.
Some participated in the soccer war vs corsairs iirc.
Dwindling surplus might have been part of what torpedoed the turboprop version

cheap, lots of range, sips gas, STOL, proven infinitely adaptable platform for AWACs, ASW, etc. Space for several crew in weird positions (IIRC the torpedo bomber guy was in back looking through open bomb bay doors).

Battle tested up the ass against small arms AAA. Even a tard like young Bush the 1st can ditch on in open ocean without injury. Has engaged possible UFOs in Bermuda Triangle.

Wings fold for easy transport/storage. You can park inside a regular truck garage to work on it.

Nice big versatile bomb bay, plus wing hard points, plus wing guns.....

plus top turret, plus ass mounted MG position to fire cumming and going.

>>64040633
this thing is rotting in the sun in Tucson at Pima

Turbo propped Skyraider please

>>64052496
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-48_Enforcer
Calfire out here in northern california uses OV-10 broncos regularly, albeit theyre using them to fight fires, not wipe out small hamlets like in the dyas of yore.

>>64055955
for snacks/nuggies