Sweden considering NOT selling more Gripens to Thailand - /k/ (#64050547)

Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:07:54 AM No.64050547
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Thailand was due to acquire a dozen E/F variants from Sweden, now Swedes are saying they won't commit to selling them. Not because they have especially close relations with Cambodia, apparently they just didn't expect the Gripen to be used in actual combat and now that it has, they're worried about their own arms sales enabling countries to conduct themselves with greater lethality.

https://breakingdefense.com/2025/07/after-thailands-gripens-combat-mission-questions-of-future-sales/
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:09:50 AM No.64050555
>Weapons... le kill?
>24M0G
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:11:07 AM No.64050560
>>64050547 (OP)
Oh shit you get a free house if you're a veteran??
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:13:24 AM No.64050569
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>>64050547 (OP)
>they're worried about their own arms sales enabling countries to conduct themselves with greater lethality.
???
Isn't that the point? Why are they even in the arms trade?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:14:19 AM No.64050575
>>64050569
swedish weapons are meant for self defence against non humans
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:15:12 AM No.64050582
>>64050569
>Why are they even in the arms trade?
Cred points for self esteem.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:16:00 AM No.64050587
>>64050575
But that's exactly how they were used...
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:18:25 AM No.64050595
>>64050569
Because otherwise they have nothing going for them other than the SWEDEN YES meme
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:20:57 AM No.64050605
I bet if Ukraine bombed vatniks with the Gripen they'd build factories in Lviv.

But since it's semi-affluent Thailand bombing browner jungle Asians suddenly Sweden gets cold feet.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:23:18 AM No.64050613
>>64050547 (OP)
BREAKING NEWS: Sweden is banning sales to the only country retarded enough to buy their shitty jets
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:24:08 AM No.64050617
why even buy saab when sweden gets spooked whenever another country uses it to defend themselves
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:24:23 AM No.64050618
>>64050547 (OP)
>weapon of war is used in war
>freak out and not sell anymore
What causes this behavior?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:24:51 AM No.64050622
>>64050613
It's more bullshit FUD from Gripen haters. Brazil is also retarded enough to buy their jets.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:25:06 AM No.64050628
>Sell your warplanes to a country
>They go to war with them
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT....

Swedes are fucking cucks
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:26:31 AM No.64050632
...and just like that Thailand pays Lockmart to upgrade their 40+ F-16s into Vipers.

If they negotiate good America might allow them to buy F-15s, I doubt it considering they love couping their civilian government and are in bed with China.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:27:04 AM No.64050634
>>64050547 (OP)
>sell airplane
>use airplane
>:(
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:28:27 AM No.64050636
Did they complain when Pakistan used their Saab AWACS to snipe Rafales?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:34:02 AM No.64050651
F-15EX
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>>64050632
America is already offering the F-15EX to Thailand.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/us-declines-sale-of-f-35s-to-thailand-and-offers-f-16-block70-and-f-15ex-instead-but-the-royal-thai-air-force-is-considering-the-purchase-of-the-saab-gripen-e/
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:35:41 AM No.64050657
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>the warplane was used for war????
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:36:18 AM No.64050659
>>64050636
AWACS conduct war indirectly and passive-aggressively enough in the Swedish tradition that it's fine.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:38:43 AM No.64050662
>>64050651
Thailand and Indonesia have both asked for F-35s, yet the US has refused both and offered F-15EXs instead, while selling F-35s to Chinese-infiltrated states like Australia and Singapore
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:40:17 AM No.64050667
>>64050662
>>64050651
Thailand and Indonesia aren't US allies

I bet if poorfag Philippines wanted to buy 6-8 F-35s they'd be approved quickly
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:40:52 AM No.64050671
>>64050662
>Chinese-infiltrated states like Australia and Singapore
Canada too
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:41:34 AM No.64050674
>>64050667
Thailand is officially regarded as a non-NATO US ally.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:43:28 AM No.64050677
>>64050662
Shut the fuck up, Malay trash. Go away.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:07:57 AM No.64050762
>>64050547 (OP)
It's not like Sweden had full control over sales as long as they had US engines.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:21:58 AM No.64050821
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>>64050662
Despite the fact that Malaysia is a larger and more strategically important country when it comes to countering the PRC in the South China Sea, the US ... has chosen to favor Singapore diplomatically and arm it with latest equipment like F-35 and HIMARS and give them basing rights in Guam. While Malaysia's armed forces facing budgetary constraints. Yet US only provides token assistance to Malaysia such as donating maritime surveillance radar, coast guard ship and MPAs. Just because Malaysia in the past adopted a principled neutral stance and refuse to support illegal US war in Iraq, Israeli genocide in Gaza and condemn Russian war in Ukraine.

Ironically, Singapore are nothing but a Chinese bitch. Just another Chinese province. Don't agree? Just look at who in charge of Singapore Armed Forces.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:31:06 AM No.64050849
>>64050662
Many seething Australians on /k/ have already been sounding the alarm since the US decided to sell the F-35 to Singapore as they believe it compromises Australia's air defense to China. While the US can afford to replace the F-35 with something new in 20 years Australians are going to be stuck with them for at least 50.

Let me start by saying I'm actually fairly pissed about this. Singapore isn't a trusted ally that we know is going to defend F-35 design secrets and they're way too close to China's sphere of influence.

In all seriousness, perhaps we could protest our concerns to the American military. American Anons can protest in DC, or in the downtown of their city, or by their closest military base or recruiting station. At the same time, the rest of us can begin the social media campaign to prevent these sales. The PLA may already have stolen the F-35's secrets, but we won't just let the military hand them over 12 fucking planes. If enough of us protest and if we are loud enough, they will hear, and at the very least, other Americans will hear. More people must know of the Chinese menace.

What would probably work to stop delivery would be to tweet at Trump, Hegseth, Musk, MGT ect. that Singapore is taking delivery in 2026. The bad PR might make them cancel as it's only 12 planes and not a lot of money.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:35:54 AM No.64050865
>>64050547 (OP)
Sweden's going to have to learn how to be a team player now that they are in NATO
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:48:31 AM No.64050908
>>64050821
Isn't Malaysia like 1/3rd Chinese?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:51:13 AM No.64050915
>>64050865
Just because Sweden is in NATO, does not mean they are going to compromise on their commitment to human rights as a humanitarian superpower. Whether it is to the Thai military junta bullying a much poorer and mentally deficient jungle Asian country than themselves, or to Turkey's bogus allegations of Kurdish terrorism against Swedish citizens, Sweden can proudly pretend it did not bend down to the Turkroaches and let them ram them up the ass for NATO membership and maintained their principles and integrity throughout
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:57:22 AM No.64050935
>>64050908
The point was Malaysia's racial policy meant that Chinese descent nationals have a very hard time going or getting connections into Malaysian government-linked MIC and military circles, unlike Singapore. Malaysia is much more reliable than Singapore and even Australia just based on the factor that they don't give high security clearance to nationals of Chinese descent

have you ever wondered why most Singaporean planes and maintenance are hosted in the US and NZ? While Malaysia gets to overhaul their own Hornets and even USMC planes alongside Russian made Flankers? And host even ANG F22s in exercises?

No it's not about having ample airspace. Singapore has the means to do it in free waters off Malaysian and Indonesian radars.

It's simply because the US couldn't risk it. No matter how much Singapore tried to make themselves look like SEA Israel.
This weird case of multilateral posturing happens because the US couldn't totally trust Chinese-majority Singapore with moles all over. The US perspective is that OPSEC is rather better preserved in Malaysia than Singapore.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:06:59 AM No.64050968
>>64050908
23% Chinese, 7% Indian.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:23:18 AM No.64051016
>>64050849
>More people must know of the Chinese menace.
10/10 on the whole post. Fucking gold, Jerry!
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:38:35 AM No.64051065
>>64050935
>Malaysia's racial policy
is one of the worst apartheid regimes still existing today
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:41:20 AM No.64051072
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>>64050575
>swedish weapons are meant for self defence against non humans
Cambodia is basically just Chinese vassal state. Well technically they both kinda are but Thailand is a lot more friendly when it comes to gun laws.

>>64050595
>Because otherwise they have nothing going for them other than the SWEDEN YES meme
T2's are still pretty gud though.

>>64050617
>why even buy saab when sweden gets spooked whenever another country uses it to defend themselves
Look no further than India's Tejas to understand why Gripens are preferable if your a poor third worlder nation, albeit a whole lot nicer than Bangladesh or Myanmar but still.

Hell Tejas didn't even achieve their original goal of self reliance because they still need to import the engine from the UK and a bunch of stuff from Japan for them to even work to begin with.

Turkey on the other hand and their TF Kaan thing as far as I'm aware of is far more decentralized.

>>64050628
It is silly, if anything they should be celebrating selling even more.

>>64050632
>...and just like that Thailand pays Lockmart to upgrade their 40+ F-16s into Vipers.
Neat
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:11:06 AM No.64051156
>>64050547 (OP)
>retards worried about american engines being a "killswitch" for the Griphen
>the actual killswitch is just sweden being cucks
what a surprise
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:13:25 AM No.64051161
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>>64050865
>Sweden's going to have to learn how to be a team player now that they are in NATO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBKr8YLuVgs
You poor deluded fuck. You'll learn.

T: Fingol
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:15:11 AM No.64051165
>>64050662
>while selling F-35s to Chinese-infiltrated states like Australia and Singapore
Israel already gave China access to their F-35s and every bit of data they had on them so that horse is already out the stable, funny you only mention Australia and Singapore though.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:22:12 AM No.64051181
>>64050587
lel

>>64050605
This. Sweden being Sweden once agian.
>Brown people bombing themselves with OUR weapons? Those noble beings commiting to such awful act that is reserved exclusively for inherently evil white males? That's not like in our happy multicultural guidebooks. Shut it down!
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:28:54 AM No.64051201
>>64050935
>Malaysia is much more reliable
because it is a fine example of a modern Islamic Sultanate

in Malaysia, only Muslims get tax refunds on religious tithes
it is illegal to preach to Muslims
it is legal for Muslims to preach to other religions
anyone who marries a Muslim must convert to Islam
it is illegal to stop being a Muslim
Muslims suspected of apostasy are sent to religious re-education camps

also, over 95% of the Malaysian military is Muslim
over 80% of the civil service is Muslim
mainly due to informal "glass ceiling" policies preventing other ethnicities from holding positions of power

but also formalised in laws and regulations
the entire government supply chain is Muslim and halal
all government departments and state-owned corporations must buy from Muslim suppliers
most restaurants and their suppliers are Muslim and halal
"halal" means at all times restaurants must employ at least two Muslim staff on every shift, to ensure halal compliance
furthermore every item, food or non-food, must be sourced from halal suppliers
in supermarkets, non-halal foods such as pork and beer can only be sold in their own small restricted sections

in business, it is law that 30% of all stocks must be Muslim-held
in any case the government controls most economic activity through state-owned corporations
and as stated, the government is wholly halal
pension funds for Muslims have higher returns
houses for Muslims are discounted
sharia courts take precedence over secular courts in any legal matter in which a Muslim is involved
religious police ensure Muslim laws are obeyed

oh, and all guns, bows, theoretically any device with a trigger and barrel must be registered as weapons
ownership is subject to approval
the state reserves the right to issue licences or not, as it wishes
in fact, all dogs (unclean in Muslim law) require licences
stray dogs are shot on sight

These are the advantages Malaysia offers over Singapore, as a modern Islamic Sultanate.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:31:53 AM No.64051213
>>64050618
Being a Swede.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 7:36:39 AM No.64051227
>>64051201
was skimming this post and thought it was about Sweden lol
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:24:48 AM No.64051337
>>64051227
well, eventually it might
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:34:08 AM No.64051365
>>64050674
So is Pakistan, that means nothing.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:35:12 AM No.64051367
>>64050560
Amazing. How do I still see homeless vets ODing on fent in the streets of Austin?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:39:12 AM No.64051380
>>64051201
this is awful
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:41:41 AM No.64051389
>>64051201
I can see why Singapore has 200 tanks and thousands of IFVs.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:44:21 AM No.64051394
>>64050935
The fact that the chinese in Singapore is headed by left wing socialist instead of "pan blue" nationalist like in Malaysia made it worse
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:48:39 AM No.64051401
These mid-tier scuffles are BASED because they give us real world examples of weapons systems being used, rather than just theories. We've seen:

>Rafale being shot down
>F-35s buzzing Iran airspace with impunity
>Girpens kicking ass and taking names
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:49:31 AM No.64051402
>>64050667
Eh, the Royal Thai (insert branch here) has been doing a lot of Big Three touring as of late. I sit at a contractor near one of the conference rooms and had to listen a sales pitch to them while working. Almost made me put my head through a wall.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:55:17 AM No.64051407
>>64051389
They won an independent from Malaysia for a reason anon
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:58:56 AM No.64051415
>>64051394
>the chinese in Singapore is headed by left wing socialist instead of "pan blue" nationalist
lmao
in Singapore, the nationalists have always been in power, idiot
the liberal socialists are in the Opposition today
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:06:42 AM No.64051425
>>64050547 (OP)

We cannot have you killing people with those things.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:16:55 AM No.64051439
>>64050671
You can put half of NATO, Japan, and South Korea in there too now. Pretty much all their industries are being bought out by China.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:53:33 AM No.64051510
>build weapons for war
>start kvetching when a country uses it for that purpose
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:55:36 AM No.64051515
>>64051402
>Almost made me put my head through a wall.
Why? Qrd?
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:59:27 AM No.64051524
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>>64050547 (OP)
>>64050569
>neutral nation
>not selling to nations that are literally in an active war
Yes, this happens not infrequently.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:02:19 AM No.64051532
>>64051524
This was after the ceasefire though.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:13:12 AM No.64051554
>>64050569
Pretty sure that the actual arms industry here is ecstatic, but our cuck retard politicians feel the need to moralfag about it.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:19:11 AM No.64051570
>>64051554
God, they're so faggy. how does a nation get like this?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:30:05 AM No.64051592
>>64051524
Sweden is no longer neutral.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:30:21 AM No.64051594
>>64051570
It's just so hypocritical too. None of them have any issue with our weapons being deployed en masse in Ukraine (mostly for free too), but someone that actually paid for them using them in a minor border clash between two jungle countries is suddenly too far. It's just stupid.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:35:22 AM No.64051600
>>64051592
this
Sweden stopped being neutral in the early 00s due to 9/11 and GWOT
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:16:45 AM No.64051675
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Oh no. Anyway.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:30:11 AM No.64051706
>>64051600
Neutrality is a fucking meme anyway. Take WW2 neutral nations:
The Swedes were giving Germany ore and allowing the Germans passage to Finland until the wind started blowing another way, then they were up the allies' asses.
The Swiss happily did business with Nazi Germany and tortured allied POWs unlucky enough to land there.
The Irish were neutral but never opposed their citizens volunteering for their apparent enemies, the British, and even were handing all the intelligence they had to the British. They also sent any downed British airmen on their way without a problem but imprisoned any German ones.
The Thais all but allied with Japan.
The Spanish were non-belligerent but fully aligned with Germany, letting U-boats use their ports as their own.
The Portuguese may have done business with Germany, but they helped the Royal Navy any chance they had.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:34:29 AM No.64051714
>>64051706
>Germans passage to Finland
*Norway. Come on man.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:38:54 AM No.64051718
>>64051714
Both.
They didn't help with the invasion, but once Norway had been subjugated they let the Germans use their land and rail network for supplying Norway.
In the case of Finland, they allowed a fully armed division to transit to Finland. That was the Midsummer crisis. It was far more controversial in Sweden.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:43:49 AM No.64051728
>>64051718
>they allowed a fully armed division to transit to Finland. That was the Midsummer crisis. It was far more controversial in Sweden.
Yeah because faggot leftoids in Sweden wanted to be allies with the USSR
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:46:29 AM No.64051735
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>>64051706
>Neutrality is a fucking meme anyway.
Neutrality means: "maintaining pre-war relations during wartime, within the limitations set by international agreements, as long as our sovereign government thinks they're sensible and agreeable to our political aims." If you don't like other nations being sovereign and international agreements being can-regulations one may follow, you're free to invade.
>The Swedes were giving Germany ore
They sold ore mined in Sweden under the limitations the British set for neutral trade with Germany.

>and allowing the Germans passage to Finland until the wind started blowing another way, then they were up the allies' asses.
Allowing armies to march through used to be a neutral right, transfer of unarmed military personnel was theoretically still permissible and it's politically sensible to accommodate the crazy war mongers who got you surrounded.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:46:37 AM No.64051736
>>64050667
Retard. Both countries are US allies in the region. They were of great help during the Vietnam wars and offered a lot of services to US forces.

>>64050632
If not for America, then China. America wants buffer states. Thats why US is pumping into developing these buffer states. The less US is involved in these countries, the more China will enroach.

Its like saying China should stop selling cars to Mexico because Mexico buys cars from US as well. Well, if China stops, then Mexicans buy cars from US and send money to US instead.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:51:22 AM No.64051741
What sort of Swiss-like cuckoldry is this?
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:56:55 AM No.64051750
>>64051735
>Neutrality means: "maintaining pre-war relations during wartime, within the limitations set by international agreements, as long as our sovereign government thinks they're sensible and agreeable to our political aims."
Yes. That's what I mean. A meme.
Neutrality allows a party to provide near-unlimited support to a belligerent as far as they're willing to risk the ire of the opposing belligerent. It doesn't mean you haven't picked a side.
>transfer of unarmed military personnel was theoretically still permissible
That wasn't the case in the Midsummer Crisis. That's what made it controversial. It was helping a German military operation by letting them transit armed personnel.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 1:06:59 PM No.64051873
>>64050547 (OP)

Guess Swedes need few more years for their pacifist retardation to finally heal away
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 1:07:32 PM No.64051874
It's not a big issue at all in Sweden and nobody gives a shit except some faggot newspapers. Ignore it, Sweden has been arming warring nations for ages.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 1:18:29 PM No.64051897
>>64051165
No they didn't
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 3:16:43 PM No.64052223
>>64051065
You don't need to sell me on it, I already told you I like it.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:28:18 PM No.64052534
>>64051389
Actually Singapore kind of got kicked out of Malaysia, they didn't want a Chinese majority major city. Kind of fucks with their "sons of the soil" bullshit.

T. Married a malaysian chinese
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:37:03 PM No.64052569
>>64050547 (OP)
>nooooo u gotta use the weapons for peaceful wars
fuuuuuuuuucking hell sweden
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:47:54 PM No.64052610
>>64052534
>Actually Singapore kind of got kicked out of Malaysia
is that the current Malay cope?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 4:56:04 PM No.64052641
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>>64052610
No it's just what happened you fucking retard, I just told you I married a Chinese I don't support the Malays. Lee Kuan Yew fucking cried about it on TV.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:10:53 PM No.64052695
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>>64052610
NTA and no, it's true
the
>Singapore left
narrative is actually part cope, part Gen Z ignorance

Singapore was kicked out because the Malaysians thought they'd never survive on their own. imagine for example American kicking out Rhode Island.
but then the Singaporeans fucking came back round and over the course of about twenty years lapped Malaysia. from about 85 Malaysia was playing catch-up.

that's like what if the Rhode Island Republic proceeded to surpass the 49 States in GDP.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:20:43 PM No.64052742
>>64052695
>over the course of about twenty years lapped Malaysia
No shit. Muslim nations will always end up in the shitter.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:37:23 PM No.64052796
>>64051718
Sweden both trained and supplied Norwegian resistance fighters.
t. Has a relative who was in the resistance
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:40:46 PM No.64052807
>>64052742
They don't deserve the piles of natural resources they're mostly gifted with
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:41:52 PM No.64052808
>>64050547 (OP)
>just didn't expect the Gripen to be used in actual combat and now that it has, they're worried about their own arms sales enabling countries to conduct themselves with greater lethality.
Swedish law makes it so that they can't sell to countries at war, once things cool down enough things will return to normal.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:42:51 PM No.64052811
>>64051554
At least Finland has a right wing govt now so Patria APCs can conquer the world
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 5:44:54 PM No.64052817
>>64051706
Thailand got invaded and lost hard, they didn't really have a choice
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:01:43 PM No.64052880
file
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>>64052817
>"invaded"
they put up a front just so they could claim they were, it's pretty obvious that they were in cahoots with the Japs
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:03:32 PM No.64052886
>>64052641
That was an act, look up the Albatross Files
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:06:42 PM No.64052902
>>64050547 (OP)
The next time you suggest people buy Gripens just realize that the French don't give a fuck what you do with your Rafales. Commit genocide, fly them to the moon, Frenchie don't care.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:10:21 PM No.64052918
>>64050547 (OP)
I still don't understand if the Gripen is supposed to be a trainer on steroid or an actual frontline fighter
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:10:35 PM No.64052919
Didn't the Swedes pull this with selling Swedish K's to the US during Vietnam? At least it led to the S&W76.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:15:38 PM No.64052941
>>64052918
Their trainer is the SAAB T-7 which is currently a fuck up. The Gripen is a frontline fighter
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 6:24:49 PM No.64052977
>>64052941
>SAAB T-7 which is currently a fuck up
Partnering with Boeing is what fucked it up. They are already got retribution for that by having to send their pilots to train in Italy for the next 10 years (hinting at when they think they'll actually have the T-7) who makes a direct competitor training aircraft, the MB-346.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:05:46 PM No.64053385
>>64051706
The Thais didn't participate in active combat or intelligence hence why they were spared the rope

If Thai troops joined the Nips and started shooting at Bongs, Jeets, Burmese, Malaysians and Americans the third nuke would have been dropped at Bangkok
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:08:11 PM No.64053393
>>64050547 (OP)
a swedish anti-war group with no power threw a fit and it becomes news? The swedish government hasn't said anything about wanting to stop the sale, just that they're monitoring the situation.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:10:26 PM No.64053403
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>>64053393
FM has no power?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:14:13 PM No.64053423
CaptainSwedenPortrait
CaptainSwedenPortrait
md5: 703d878152c720e64b8abe5ae40117f1๐Ÿ”
Almost forgot about Captain Sweden until this thread.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:19:38 PM No.64053448
>>64053403
You're missreading. There's a difference between not wanting to promise (or commit) to something that hasn't even been approved yet by the states different departments, and them saying it aint happening no more. It's standard political language trying to cover their back if for some reason thailand does something fkn stupid.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:22:13 PM No.64053458
>>64053423
Shouldn't he be black? Andnwith a crown of hand grenades?
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:32:45 PM No.64053504
>>64051675
Mister Trappier, I kneel
France is the only country that has absolutely no scruples selling their jets to anyone - including Poojeets
Deep respect
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:33:48 PM No.64053510
e591f355b83bdf63aa2ddf01c71b7fb9
e591f355b83bdf63aa2ddf01c71b7fb9
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>>64051750
>Neutrality allows a party to provide near-unlimited support to a belligerent as far as they're willing to risk the ire of the opposing belligerent.
Are you just naturally retarded or do you have to make an effort every single time? The British blockade was in force, Swedish exports of iron and steel were capped and the Brits would have retaliated if the Swedes started going balls to walls for the Endsieg.
WW2 specifically saw the expansion of the blockade even beyond WW1 levels, simply because the Brits knew what they were doing and the Swedish position was weaker this time around because the Mericans were shipping the supplies for the Soviets and the Brits had even less need for swedish produce.
>It doesn't mean you haven't picked a side.
That's politics, yes. Nations have their own interests and have the right to pursue them, which also includes the right to limit their use by treaty agreements. International law is a gentlemen's agreement you keep up because it's usually cheaper than a shooting war.
>That wasn't the case in the Midsummer Crisis.
I'm aware that all transfers had been made illegal and that the Swedes tried to keep them as mum and as minimal as possible and stopped them at the earliest date. But that's just Realpolitik - they wanted to keep their own nation, so they had to bend to force major in this specific case. It's no different to how they agreed to and largely followed British blockade regulations.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:35:23 PM No.64053524
>>64052919
>At least it led to the S&W76.
It's kinda hilarious that they made a gun that was objectively worse for the SEALS, who specifically ordered it.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:38:01 PM No.64053536
>>64051367
Because they aren't vets you moron.
>holds up a sign saying "homeless veteran"
>OMG AMERICA HAS HOMELESS VETERANS
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:40:27 PM No.64053540
Fits Sweden. I remember how their Government cheered after Khmer Rouge attacked Vietnam.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:45:24 PM No.64053562
>>64050569
Western retardation. Nammo in Finland and Norway got leftist politicians and activists after them when Hamas posted images of used up Israeli LAW's in Gaza.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:50:08 PM No.64053590
>>64051213
The Swiss are prone to it too.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:50:24 PM No.64053591
>>64053393
Oh, yeah this whole thread was a nothing burger.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 8:56:30 PM No.64053630
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>>64050547 (OP)
What a nothing burger article with no backing. One government official said that their office would examine the deal as required by law (they'd have to regardless of the conflict), one said ask the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs made a generic statement about hoping for a peaceful resolution to the conflict. At no point did anyone, anywhere express that the Gripen deal might get tanked.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:12:30 PM No.64053687
These conflicts are based because I want to see modern weapon systems used, but I don't want all out slug fests since they cause too much destruction.
Replies: >>64053765
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:26:22 PM No.64053765
>>64053687
Cambodia is too pathetic compared to Thailand

A peer war will be like Ukraine/Russia or if in SEA maybe Vietnam/Thailand or Malaysia/Indonesia
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 9:29:55 PM No.64053780
gripen as your cheap multirole that you can arm, spam and hide in mountains and jungles with limited crew
f-35b for surprise hit and runs, also innawoods and inside mountain bases
f-15ex as your main air superiority and flying bomb truck/light bomber
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:45:32 PM No.64054146
>>64052977
>They are already got retribution for that by having to send their pilots to train in Italy for the next 10 years
chat, is that real?
Replies: >>64054265
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 10:56:48 PM No.64054185
>>64053458
You're thinking of his sidekick, Refugee Boy.
Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:15:03 PM No.64054256
>>64050821
Malaysia is capital poor. They have to buy military equipment with raw materials like palm oil and rubber, which the US is not interested in.
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Anonymous
7/30/2025, 11:18:32 PM No.64054265
>>64054146
>https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2023/12/07/in-nordic-first-sweden-to-send-fighter-pilots-for-training-in-italy/
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:19:54 AM No.64054796
>>64053510
Why the fuck do you think I am saying nations don't have the right to pursue their own interests? Where the fuck did I say they can't? Once again: There is almost no such thing as neutrality. They have a range in which they can operate, and they will often favor one side to the maximum extent they are capable without drawing the ire of another party. In the case of Sweden, they supported Germany as much as they were sapable of doing.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:10:05 AM No.64055768
>>64052880
>it's pretty obvious that they were in cahoots with the Japs
Based Japs.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:15:00 AM No.64055784
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48bguyfcu3ab1
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>>64050547 (OP)
my fighter jet... le killed people?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:37:40 AM No.64056418
>>64050651
>Not your fathers F15

My father drives a Ford Taurus
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:55:06 AM No.64056452
>>64051897
>Constantly seethes about Singapore and Australia
>Not a peep to be said about Israel
Guysโ€ฆI think MalaysianShillAnon is a false flag
Replies: >>64056504
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:56:06 AM No.64056458
>>64051897
they did, only a jew would say otherwise
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:14:49 AM No.64056504
>>64056452
we've known for a long time he's an indog playing the game of
>let's you and him fight
using the same modus operandi as when armatard talks up the Gripen
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:49:15 AM No.64056557
any source other than 'breakingdefense'?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:11:36 PM No.64056857
>>64050628

The reason that the used the gripens in the first place is because the US complained about the use of F-16 when anyone besides Thais knows it was a war of aggression over territory already allocated to cambodia by ICJ twice and recognized by even the countries as such that are not ICJ members.
And the point wasn't even taking land just justification for deposing the elected Thai PM again with a military junta for that they needed conflict ti justify the power grab. Some land was a plus.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:18:28 PM No.64056869
>>64056857

And if you wonder why us nagged about the use of F-16 over Cambodia is because Thailand used them as CAS while the Cambodians have a couple of hand me downs SAMs from china that are relatively modern (recently updated, gifts from china for arresting some Chinese gangsters that the Chinese government really wanted back) even if short range while the Thai F-16 are relatively outdated models.

So the gripens were sent in as soon as the F-16 were grounded.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:35:37 PM No.64056904
ASPI
ASPI
md5: c4807d2f12aca53a08374415c8ebdea0๐Ÿ”
>>64056857
Please check your facts. ICJ only judged on the temple itself and the immediate surrounding area, not the dispute border.
Also, the F-16s were used alongside the Gripens and not grounded.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:46:55 PM No.64056924
Kek. If true, my shitskin ass from the shithole called turd gay will be mighty smug saying told you so, like many times before. See, it's never fucking was about Turkey doing some particularly evil thing blasting some heckin Kurds [รถร–รถ] (actually 70iq donkey fucking communist terrorists) who are with guns and are shooting at you, only then to have some retards in Germany embargo your Leopard spare parts. It's really just that west eurotards are this fucking retarded and should not be relied on for weaponry as a matter of principle no matter how irrelevant you think you are to their stupid ideas about weapons. They will sell even to Saudi Arabia only to cuck you the second you decide to use them. You can only cooperate with west eurotards on purely industrial matters but even then they'll try to cuck you at ever opportunity. So being a chink tier tech thief with them is the best course of action if anything. They are in it to make money producing you Thingโ„ข. These are not serious people when it comes to ensuring "at the end of the day" military capability.

Shitty local weapon > Having to convince some leftoid in west europe to not cuck you.
It's like the "common sense" gun control argument but on country level kek:
>okay we will sell you overpriced weapons if you jump though enough hoops but if you ever use them to defend yourself you are a heckin' criminal!
t. รถร–รถ

Wait actually, speaking of communist terrorists, maybe that's exactly why some leftoid boomer in Sweden blocked it. Sweden were commie Vietcong sympathizers, right, and whatever commie thing was is Cambodia?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 2:20:26 PM No.64057000
>>64050547 (OP)
This is a nothingburger. Sweden just does not want to sign the deal at this exact moment, that is not the same as not wanting to sign it.
The journo is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 2:27:01 PM No.64057017
>>64050569
That's SO Sweden! OMG.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:57:14 PM No.64057868
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>>64050821
>>64054256
Eventhough the US bribing Malaysia not to join BRICS with sale of F-35, it wont be easy for them if the US Congress keep trying to meddle in and trying to approve it only with terms. Although both countries are friends, Malaysia is not that close with US, unlike Singapore , which the US gave much favour too. Also, Putrajaya (Malaysia) did not recognized Israel and dont have any Diplomatic relationship with Tel Aviv. Unlike Singapore which is the strongest supporters of Israel's war against the Palestinian people. So, you can do the math why Malaysian prefer to get 2nd hand F-18 from Kuwait as a temporary "stop-gap measure" only, as a temporary filling in the procurement of fifth or sixth generation fighter jets that will begin in the 14th Malaysia Plan (RM14 & RM15) 2030-2040.

of course, it's dangerous if the weaponry leans more towards the west, especially America, the strangest policy is, the fighter jets have been purchased but their use requires permission from them. For F-18 Malaysia, the Malaysian technician was not given the source code for the settings when there was a mission, they had to report to America first. And again, Turkiye, just because they bought defense equipment from Russia was kicked out of the F-35 program, remember that before Indonesia was embargoed, the Air Force was paralyzed.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:01:10 PM No.64058399
>>64057868
You gotta live when turd worlders delude themselves into thinking the US will ever sell them the F-35.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:47:25 PM No.64058922
Weapons kill people? How horrible.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:48:45 PM No.64058935
>>64050547 (OP)
>>64050569
it's a typical Scandinavian holier than thou move. Sell people weapons until they actually need them, the you can claim to be a paragon of virtue for not selling to warring nations.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:50:24 AM No.64059566
1739929038374
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>>64058399
For your uneducated ass- US has identified Malaysia as next sales target for its F-35. According to Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II Potential Market 2007-2030 report, states that Malaysia's need to have the F-35 is medium/high and increasing with the possibility that Malaysia will expand its capabilities due to increasing threats in the region. Internal study by Lockheed Martin on Malaysia fleet requirements for F-35 is classified by the company as 48 a/c. There are rumors that Malaysia has already been offered the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II. The signs may be on:
>Chief of Air Force's visit to the US recently
>strong news linking the Su-57 to Malaysia.

Malaysia is looking for 2 squadron of MRCA to replace its Su-30MKM and F/A-18D within 2035-2040 timeframe. 18 aircraft will be purchased in the MRCA Program with candidates focused on the US-made F-35, Russian-made Sukhoi SU-57, South Korean-made KF-21 Boramae, Chinese-made Shenyang J-35 and Turkish-made KAAN

For the new MRCA procurement plan, Malaysia may get SU-57 fighter jets from Russia and KF-21 from South Korea or even KAAN from Turkey because they have already offered it to Malaysia.

Russia has already offered the SU57 package along with the S400 to Malaysia. The US gives too many conditions and no freedom to repair or upgrade the aircraft made in the United States. Most recently, Malaysia has held discussions with the Russian authorities to obtain the Mig-35 as well as the 5th generation Sukhoi Su-57 aircraft because Russia guarantees technology exchange and aircraft upgrades in the future.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:51:33 AM No.64059572
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md5: c47f66be548999e5c0117466ec7b1513๐Ÿ”
Contrary to what people say, Malaysia bought russian and american aircraft out of necessity, not simply because of shit and giggles. For years malaysia had been denied access to more modern aircraft because the US is playing favorites with singapore, philippines and thailand. At one point they just said "fuck this" and went to the russian instead. America putting both Indonesia and Pakistan under military sanction really spooked Malaysian decisionmaker hence why they're willing to buy russian made equipment which is generally cheaper and russia is willing to accept almost anything as payment.

>Malaysia wanted more F/A-18
>Malaysia looking for second hand USN/USMC F/A-18
>Uncle Sam said no. Instead offered up F/A-18F
>Malaysia tempted to buy F/A-18F but didn't want to surrender their existing F/A-18D as part of buyback option
>Deal went dead
>Suddenly US came back and "hinted" that they may export F-35 for Malaysia if they could permanently stationed their F-15/F-16 in Malaysia because reasons.
>Malaysia said "take that F-35 of yours and shove it up your ass" subtly

Til now American suffering loses because Malaysian opened the market gate for Russian and European arms sales on SE Asia and destroying the American arms sales monopoly.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:06:15 AM No.64060054
lol, just buy the J10 already
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Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:16:45 AM No.64060088
>>64060054
If they wanted junk, they would have just brought french
Replies: >>64065116
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:34:59 AM No.64060139
>>64053780
Is the F-15EX really better than the F-35 for air superiority? I thought stealth was important for winning BVR engagements with other planes.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:42:18 AM No.64061104
>>64050547 (OP)
Then why the fuck are they selling FIGHTER jets for?
Children party parades?
Replies: >>64065895
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:20:00 PM No.64061461
2568-08-01 19_12_41-Facebook and 45 more pages - Profile 1 - Microsoft Edge
The Swedish Embassy just denied the claim. Nothing more to see here. Probably cambo gov disinformation as usual.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:47:06 AM No.64064238
>>64060054
The Thais are one of the few countries aside from Pakistan to have run Western aircraft against J-10s and they weren't impressed
Replies: >>64065699
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:56:21 AM No.64065116
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>>64060088
> brought french
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:13:15 AM No.64065699
Gripped
Gripped
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>>64064238
Thais only ran against Su-27s.
Replies: >>64065780
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:31:27 AM No.64065780
j-10
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>>64065699
What the fuck was this then. You dirty, lying, born insecure cocksucker
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:37:01 PM No.64065892
>>64052808
Whoever wrote and voted in favor of that law should be brought around back and shot to prevent that level of stupid from reproducing
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:38:32 PM No.64065895
>>64061104
Sexual use