Why has the security situation actually worsened in Africa in the last 20 years despite African militaries overall becoming more competent and modernized?

ISIS mostly

>>64054942
ISIS and Al Qaeda just take advantage of ongoing insurgencies. They work like McDonald's franchises

None of the problems (rampant corruption, tribalism, shit governments) have been fixed and despite saber rattling over muh panafricanism they still all hate each other and will fuck one another over for a shekel

>>64054935 (OP)
More population, income and communications.
Africa nearly doubled its population in those years.

>>64054935 (OP)
IMF, Western businesses, countries directly exploiting their resources and labor, corrupt leaders, messed up borders, climate change, unfriendly neighbor countries, hostile geography, and so on. You can have the best weapons but if the nature of the problem is not solved the problem keeps coming back.

>>64055027
>>64054942
These two, the Sahel region in particular is a shitshow due to all kinds of conflicts: ethnic, religious, class. The shitty governments end up exacerbating the issues as well

>>64055109
>Western businesses
Oh no!

>>64054935 (OP)
They should just let Paul Kagame run the continent and it would fix pretty much everything within a decade.

>>64055213
Imagine if the business of another country owned the mines and oil wells of your country. They extract it for their nation and under pay your workers. They then further use their wealth to bribe your leaders. That's the problem

>>64055611
This is chingchong projection

>>64054935 (OP)
The parts of Africa doing well, or at least better, are the parts not constantly wracked by conflict.

>>64055260
Kagame, the guy currently destabilizing the congo?

For the same reason shit in cyberpunk settings is as chaotic and fucked as ever - for every new piece of technology or measure of power the large organizations get to increase their control, so do the ones looking to subvert them

>>64054935 (OP)
islam

>>64054935 (OP)
Perhaps they have not in fact become more competent?

>>64055109
To be honest, they aren't exploited enough. If there were exploitation at a scale that lots of expats were out there managing operations, shit would get cleaned up to a greater extent than it is today.

>>64054935 (OP)
>french pulled out and quit giving a shit
>those countries who didn’t like the French wanted the Chinese and Russians instead
>ethnic conflicts galore

>>64055627
>b-b-but what about Chinks?!
Just because Chinese companies do the same thing doesn't make it right.

a whole fucking lot of excess youth
/bread

>>64055116
>Muh Ruzzia

Kill yourself tranny

you can give them the best training and gear, but they're still african.

>>64054935 (OP)
Rising population levels (since rest of the world keeps feeding them for some reason) paired with rich natural resources that attarct local and foreign powers.

Also this >>64054954

>>64055109
>IMF, Western businesses
>no mention of Chinks and Russians
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>>64056283
Somebody calls out Russhits for what they are. Tranny namecalling ensues. Like clockwork.

>African militaries overall becoming more competent and modernized

>>64054935 (OP)
Because Russia and China are playing both sides of the board, equipping and arming rebels and ISIS and then offering governments "security solutions".
As usual a question of "what's wrong in the world" comes back to the festering cancer of Russia not being dealt with decisively in the 90s.

>>64054935 (OP)
>African militaries overall becoming more competent and modernized
They can't become competent due to genetics.
But they can hire russian mercs.

>>64056410
The 3rd one has the cute apple like cheekbones and features I like in negros. Would make a mulatto with.

>>64054935 (OP)
Sub-saharan Africans have an average IQ of 65. Every problem Africa has flows from the fact that they are a functionally retarded population. You can blame it religion, tribalism, capitalism, whatever, but whatever the symptom it is rooted in the problems associated with being that fucking stupid. If you struggle to understand cause/effect, can't grasp hypothetical scenarios, never imagine a future beyond instant gratification, or lack basic human empathy outside your immediate family unit, then any political challenge more complicated than an immediate existential crisis is going to fuck you up.

africa
that's all you need to know
they never evolved into a modern civilization

this is simply just an extension of their natural tribal squabbles, and they're using arms and munitions they never would have developed on their own

>>64054935 (OP)
The short of it is, because of an increase in population and decrease in French and American power.
The increase in population is causing internal struggles with the big ones being over water (Ethiopia made a big dam on the Nile river which is affecting everyone living downstream which means Egypt but also Sudan) and many small ones being over just niggers being niggers for whatever reason.
At the same time you've got Russia and China creeping into areas that France can no longer keep under control so you've got the niggers France still controls picking fights against niggers that signed up with the Russians.
You've got ISIS and whatever other Islamic groups running around, but most of those are just proxies resulting from the conflict mention above.

>>64056661
Well that's even worst since russia is losing to isis and italy lost to fucking ethiopia

>>64055673
>destabilizing the congo
As if it was stable beforehand, lol

>>64054935 (OP)
>African militaries overall becoming more competent and modernized?
You're a funny guy.

>>64055673
the congo hasn't been stable since the belgians left
they might have been brutal but you have to hand it to them, they really knew how to run the place.

>Africa
>competent
>more

>>64055109
The dumbfuck excuses you faggots manage to come up with are astonishing. There's only one problem with sub-Saharan Africa, and we all know what it is. That's also never going to change, so the problems are never going to get fixed, barring China literally reinstating slavery, or the west wising up and realizing they have to drop the pretense if they want to compete with China in Africa, and bringing back colonialism. But I think that's too late.

>>64056597
>Russia not being dealt with decisively in the 90s.
I think you mean the 40s.

>>64056960
The Belgian approach to Congo was mostly hands off, and it's been more than 60 years since it was handed over. They have no one to blame for their current situation but themselves.

>>64054935 (OP)
If the nation state is dysfunctional, then a more professional part of the army is just the most dangerious rebel faction to form when shit breaks down.

I've had a really interesting conversation with an african economics professor a few years ago.
what he's concerned about is how africans perceive and thus push for development.
they care about the growth of the GDP and technology and that's it. Not about building a strong democratic framework, fair and independent judges or drinkable water.
nah if line goes up life goes up, never mind that due to population growth GDP per capita is less than half the GDP growth.
and if the capital has 5G and Europe has 5G that means we are now as advanced as Europe. Never mind that the capital doesn't have a single traffic light. Or that the youros are designing and making their own communications equipment while africa just imports chinese with a "made in africa" sticker on them.

the problem he sees with this is that as long as africa can't provide the basics it can only build a tower on sand. where they are always one drought, one coup, one ethnic conflict away from going full on Liberia no matter how much "fancy" shit you buy from the chinks to make line go up.

>>64056963
>There's only one problem with sub-Saharan Africa, and we all know what it is
imperialism

>>64056975
>The Belgian approach to Congo was mostly hands off
well the belgian administrators has a good example to follow set in the congo freestate period

>>64056975
>The Belgian approach to Congo was mostly hands off

>>64054935 (OP)
>Why has the security situation actually worsened in Africa in the last 20 years despite African militaries overall becoming more competent and modernized?

Because Africa has a massive population explosion going on.

>>64054954
Americans trying to explain international terrorism
>ok, so imagine a burger...

>>64056411

These are UN africans going to haiti, meaning that they have gucci equipment by african standards.

>>64056997
Retard.

>>64057060
That’s exactly how we explained it to isis and Al Qaeda

>>64054935 (OP)
They’re just living in the moment, man. Don’t hate.

>>64054935 (OP)
20 years ago most these countries were also full of refugees

>>64055828
half that region is christian
like there is no muslim parties involved in whatever the fuck is going on in Cameroon

>>64057556
isis is cameroon anon..

>>64057060
kek

>>64054935 (OP)
Muslims

>>64057060
Lol

>>64056431
Not him because only a tranny would be that obsessed. The thread is about African warfare and you gotta shill by bringing up Russia. And only mentally ill trannies shill their degeneracy for free since they're too mentally ill to work and have the free time to shit post their political opinions all day

>>64057671
Won....

>>64056971
He doesn't mean that because he's a commie. Now that Russia isnt communist and now it's more of a capitalist white nation, it's imperative they get destroyed and replaced. White nations are allowed to exist so long as they adopt a international world order/communist ideology where they won't mind race mixing to oblivion with arab/African immigrants.

>>64056566
What is this position called?

>>64056971
And every other decade ever, yes. That was just the latest major point of opportunity.

>>64054942
Israel, mostly. ISIS apologized for schwacking the IDF a few years back.

>>64054954
All the Hallmark's of intelligence agencies. I wonder who owns the goblins. I don't think the CIA is intelligent enough since they've only hired narcissistic sociopaths for the last 20 years

>>64057747

>>64057069
You're calling him a retard but if it's the reason I think you're gonna give then you're the only retard in this convo

>>64057117
The former president of Niger (kek) straight-up said that the only people who genuinely sent them gibs with minimum strings attached were the wectoids.
Somebody post that image.

>>64054935 (OP)
As long as Africa is full of Africans, it will never be prosperous.

>>64057698
>Nooo only white people breed together!!
I like having more options beyond white women. Kys faggot

>>64058015
Because you're retarded.

>>64054935 (OP)
Because despite what the "one human race" tards will tell you, niggers are on average substantially less intelligent, which results in poorly organized, chaotic, corrupt and incapable societies that barely function, most of which are de facto failed states held together by some foreign aid which is then embezzled by a small clique of parasites.

>>64056411

>>64057698
>He doesn't mean that because he's a commie.
Isn’t most of Russia’s allies communist? And aren’t most pro-Russian’s on the far left portion of the political compass?
>where they won't mind race mixing to oblivion with arab/African immigrants.
Don’t they have to pay tribute to Islamic Chechnya? And isn’t it a common issue where Islamic Chechens victimise the Christian Slavic members of the military?

>>64054935 (OP)
>Throw money at monkey
>He doesn't turn into man?!?!?!?
>WHOS FAULT????????

>>64055109
>Western businesses
i like how you dont mention the one country that has their state owned PMC operating there, extorting the locals out of their gold mines like some cartoon villain. i wonder why someone would post a comment like this an ignore certain details, hmmm

>>64056971
I think you mean 1919.

>>64056992
>they care about the growth of the GDP and technology and that's it. Not about building a strong democratic framework, fair and independent judges or drinkable water.
Singapore only did the drinkable water part and they managed to achieve the objectives

>>64060420
Singapore isn't filled with niggers

>>64057688

Shut up tranny loving Ziggerboy

>>64060450
They are filled with indians though. Don't know much about them, but the canada thread doesn't seem to like them very much

>>64060420
Singapore did inherit strong democratic institutions and a fair and independent judiciary from the British, and while they did undemocratize and remove the independence of both subsequently, they retained enough of the original framework to ensure their success.

Next door Malaysia did the same but went further, and is now suffering the consequences. Hong Kong also had their British inheritance taken away by the PRC and is now faring similarly

TIL the type 90 lower front plate is only 20mm thick
TIL the m247 shoots saphei with TWO HUNDRED SIXTY TWO fucking grams of he filler

>>64060468
These have to behave or they get spanked.

>>64054935 (OP)
because they're discovering mafias and cartel methods, too

it hasn't worsened at all. and negroids is why it is how it is; nothing can fix it, and people shouldn't try to either. just leave them all alone and don't allow them in your countries.

>>64057698
I swear /pol/luters come up with the dumbest takes imaginable

>>64060464

>>64058023
Nope you're retarded

>>64056975
IMO the history of the Congo is fascinating and I find it sad people basically start with Belgian colonisation in the 1870's as if nothing had happened beforehand.

Which is weird because when you read about it you read about Livingstone then Stanley exploring and mapping the place, which implies that it's a wild region populated by a low density of small communities.

What makes it weirder is that you'll probably read about the great Kingdom of Kongo that started in the late 14th century, so you'll wonder why the Congo basin was considered wilderness and why the kingdom was basically gone by the time Belgians went there.

In short, the Kongo kingdom was centered on the coast and was very powerful, they basically waged war against neighboring countries already NG the coast or went on slave catching raids into the continent. This centralised manpower in the capital and emptied the nearby regions of people, which was exactly what the Kongo kingdom wanted. When the Portugese arrived the King started to export his slave workforce, reinvested the surplus into better weapons and captured many more slaves. He basically emptied the whole region of it's workers, and over the long term the region stagnated economically into the wilderness the famous explorers discovered in the late 19th century.

>>64057762
>they exist therefore it's da jooz
Least retarded /pol/ logic.

>>64061198
Post gun with timestamp

>>64057762
>Hallmark's

>>64055611
You think Americans own US companies lmao

>>64057556
>half that region is christian
Ethiopia is half the region now? I used to disregard posters not capitalizing their posts on 4chan because this is social media, but more and more absolutely retarted takes come from posts with no capitalization or proper punctuation, that it's probably easier to disregard posts from the first word than bother reading the rest of their shit takes.
>>64056160
Yet the chinks, which have been the most active in that role this century, aren't the ones being called out about this subject, you lying subhuman.
>>64057688
Wagner and Muscovite interests have displaced francophone interests in the region the last several years and are an active factor in the entire situation, and your squawking about transexuals as a deflection of such information shows you're subhuman and if you live in the west you need to be lynched for sedition.

>>64062078
Cameroon, Congo, Central Africa, Mozambique,South Sudan
these are majority christian you retard

>>64061075
The most misleading drawing I've seen in a while.
Nice race mixed blacks there with no negroid facial structure and a million hair oils for their steel wool hair.

>>64062120
>Nice race mixed blacks there with no negroid facial structure
My favorite cope. These fools don't even know what East Africans look like. Casual racists are worthless fags.

>>64062135
You drew some pretty stupid caricatures up top there.

Asians are generally panfaced and look prepubescent, though

>>64062272
I don't propagate wojaks, the only part I'm discussing is the pictures of sexy black women always being handwaved as "not negroid facial structure" by casual racists who are ignorant.

>>64062291
>hates wojaks
>loves black queens
Ah I see you're a man of taste and culture

>>64061205

>>64062120
>>64062272
>>64062299
Be real man it wouldn't make a difference to you if they were 100% SSA or AA (in other words highly likely to have non-African DNA even if a little). Like the other anon said racists are hopelessly ignorant about Africa (surprise surprise) so have no idea about the true extent of how much genetic variation exists there, their only visual association with black Africans is someone who's West/Central African. Truth is it makes no difference to me what they are they could be AA, Caribbean or African there's no shortage of women from these places who's cheeks I'd want to clap, but the same can be said for every race on the planet it's just more likely I'm gonna find a white girl

>>64063781
LMAO that's what I thought

>>64063939
Not the same anon rtard

>>64054935 (OP)
Same reason things have actually worsened everywhere else despite military power, economic production, and technology all moving forward. The people directly involved in making decisions have no intention of solving problems or sharing wealth.

>>64061075
Lmao

>>64055611
Shell and BP both have huge operations in the United States and it's a complete non-issue, so whatever point you're trying to make is probably completely retarded.

>>64065390
Literal shell company.

>>64054935 (OP)
The fucked up borders unironically

>>64065559
The borders in most of africa are so porous they might as well not be borders

>>64054935 (OP)
"More competent" is an incredibly low achievement for african militaries.

>>64054935 (OP)
All African countries were given their militaries.
The problem is that African cultures lack the concept of maintenance. The result is miltaries that just 10 years ago were functional are now without any functional weapons.
The latest example was the South African campaign in the Congo against the M23 rebels. In 2010 they crushed these same rebels with maneuvers using air support. This year they had to pack up and go home after losing multiple soldiers and even surrendering due to having only 1 operational helicopter.

https://martinplaut.com/2025/03/24/south-africas-airforce-has-just-6-working-aircraft-its-close-to-defenceless/