>https://tni-au.mil.id/berita/detail/kunjungan-kerja-kasau-ke-leonardo-di-italia-untuk-tinjau-opsi-penguatan-kapabilitas-udara
The Chief of Staff of the Air Force (Kasau) recently conducted a visit of the Italian firm Leonardo in order to talk about the possible acquisition of the armed variant of the M-346 jet trainer.

More and more countries are opting to purchase light fighter attack platforms which were once deemed obsolete, do you think this is a strategy meant to create cheap anti drone platforms?

>>64056547 (OP)
aircraft in question.

>>64056659
These kinds of lil’ trainer guys are like the songbirds of military aircraft, they remind me of a finch every time i look at them, cute!

>>64056659
looks like a tiny frog foot so cutei bet is awesome to fly CAS in.

Why do they need the M-346, don't they operate T-50s already?

>>64056547 (OP)
Aircraft aren't great for taking mass numbers of drones out. They're just not cost effective.
Although™ maybe a fleet of patrol boats fitted with a bunch of Rheinmetall Oerlikon Mk3/Skynex anti-aircraft guns would make sense.
Indonesia doesn't really have any geopolitical enemies unless China wants to act stupid. .

>>64056677
no, they have the FA-50.

>>64056678
>They're just not cost effective.
They can be, the US is testing F-16s with laser guided LAU-131 A/A rocket pods for APKWS II. Use a Light Fighter jet trainer as the platform and the costs go even lower.
Realistically this shouldn't be the only solution, but just one part of a broader system which has both fixed anti air, jets and missiles.

>>64056677
Maybe they are not enough, the poles have been left in limbo with theirs.
>>64056683
The FA-50 is the armed version of the T-50.

>>64056659
Isn't this jet one of the contenders for the Navy's next trainer?

>>64056724
yeah

>>64056547 (OP)
Every delegation has a designated bald guy

>>64056677
They probably realized that a mini f-16 that has barely enough fuel to takeoff isn't the best for CAS, air policing and training pilots.

>>64056659
I really need to ask:
If we use 4 of these mini engines, would be possible to build an actual Fighter?

>>64057206
Define actual fighter.

>>64057312
He was most likely making a joke considering the 346 already has plenty of T/W ratio. An actual fighter would be a frontline fighter like the Eurofighter or the F-35.
The M-346FA is an LCA.
Depending on the nation's wealth it can become their "frontline" fighter but it's not optimal. Austria bought the FA version as well to offload some of the air policing job from their Eurofighters.

>>64056763
this is the sexiest thing I've ever seen in my life and I want one.

>>64057401
It is cute. It reminds me of a dolphin.

We need to just stop wasting time with Indonesia considers threads. They wont buy anything

>>64057503
>stop wasting time with Indonesia considers threads
?

>>64057503
>They wont buy anything
implessive

>>64056547 (OP)
>https://news24online.com/world/indonesia-to-buy-aircraft-carrier-fromamid-growing-south-china-sea-tensions-italy/497795/
Indonesia is already buying the retired ITS Giuseppe Garibaldi carrier, it's probably part of a bigger deal so that they can get a cheaper price.
>>64057503
Chinks are acting out in the South Asia Sea, it makes sense for them to start building up their military and to get closer to the west.

>>64056547 (OP)
I saw the OP image from the thumbnail scrolling the catalog and I thought the wall had the social credit score meme on it.

>>64057873
冰淇淋

>>64057873

>>64056763
When is the decision going to be taken? I tought they were supposed to pick one a few years ago.

>>64058178
At first they pushed it back to late 2028, then they said they need one quick and said they will have a decision by early 2027. My bet is in the 2030s.

>>64056547 (OP)
Is this the result of the divorce between Indonesia and south korea over the kf21?

>>64058309
qrd?

>>64058095
kek

>>64056677
The t50 is shit

>>64056659
Looks like an f4

>>64056547 (OP)
Indonesia also just signed a deal for 48 Kaan from Turkiye. This will give them a fleet consisting of:
>F-16
>Su-30
>FA-50
>Rafale
>Kaan
>F-15EX
>KF-21
>M-346

This will be the most powerful airforce in Asia

>>64059595
>what are logistics
Killswitches are real, literally jeet-tier airforce

>>64059595
>buying wunderwaffe

>>64059595
>most powerful airforce in Asia
That's Japan. Followed by the US presence in Asia, then a massive powergap and you find China. Anyone else is irrelevant.

>>64059372
This. Ask any pole in the 23rd what they think about it.

>>64056547 (OP)
OH NONONONO FA-50 SISTERS!

>>64061069
The JASDF is weaker than the USAF/UN in Asia

>>64056678
>Aircraft aren't great for taking mass numbers of drones out. They're just not cost effective.
This is wrong and retarded, combat in both the Middle East and Ukraine shows that they're the most reliable, low cost shahed swatters. AAA may be potentially cheaper in the terminal phase, but by then you're risking your force being saturated and more have a chance to hit their targets.

is there a reason the US hasn't dropped the following for F-22s and these or the Textron Scorpion?
>F-15
>F-16
>F-18
all of these planes are old as shit and it would probably be cheaper to just drop them and build a ton of F-22s to achieve economies of scale. Then we'd have F-35s for the fancy shit, F-22s for bulk defense multirole and a smaller plane for ISR/CAS that's cheaper to run for dealing with low-tech countries

>>64064866
Because the F-22 production line closed years ago. And the plan is to replace F-16s with F-35s. Can you do a basic google search?

>>64058095

>>64056700
>the poles have been left in limbo with theirs.
The FA-50 deal with poland has been a joke, but poles are kinda notorious for being braindead retarded when it comes to military procurements.
When they ordered our M-346 they specifically ordered the most basic version, with no radar and no link 16. The M-346 could simulate fully those internally so it's not an issue, but if you needed the system to simulate other non standard armaments you needed to put it into the package so that Leonardo could put them into the program (at a cost since they are outside the normal stuff). They knew this but still tried to pull the "kurwa! you tricked of me, now you give me free plane!" and we ended up doing the upgrading for free. And after that they bought 4 more M-346 (they tried to pull another trick but I can't explain it since it never became public).
I wouldn't be surprised if the whole fa-50 fiasco was the fault of the poles in the first place.