Sneed-sour is not getting out of this

IDPA says p320 too dangerous for competition

https://www.idpa.com/

>>64057566 (OP)
>nig sour

>>64057579
seeg-saar

>>64057566 (OP)
The IDPA are just a bunch of grifters. For some incomprehensible reason they'd sided with anti-gun,anti-2A libs to slander the premier firearms producer in the United States. This attack on American Made firearms ends today.

>>64057566 (OP)
Lawsuit inbound!

Ron Cohen, saboteur of the century, is scot free with a Gaza mansion in his future

...til he dies and goes to Hell

...unless he repents

bump

>UMMMMM DID YOU JUST REFUSE TO USE MY GUN??! I'M GONNA SUE AAAAAAAA IM SUUUING
Looking forward to his next crashout on instagram

>64058012
someone come get your GPT bot, it's having an emotional crisis

I'm genuinely curious if this means that practiscore will stop allowing IDPA matches to be listed since Sig basically props them up

>>64057566 (OP)
>sigpocolypse

You mean the Final Siglution

>>64058012
>be american
>be cut
That's Britain

Imagine working at SIG right now seeing your retirement fade away in real time. I would be begging HK for a job offer right now

>>64058124
Yeah and 98% of the universe is dark matter and the succession of archaic hominids is totally verifiable.
And you're definitely not a faggot.

>>64058097
HK doesn't hire Indians

>>64058295
You use r*ddit and don't own guns.

>>64058305
I accept your concession

>>64057566 (OP)
Dumb shit stirring boomer league admins just responding to internet retardation because they are too stupid to filter fact from reality.

>>64058097
they have retirement plans in Mumbai?

>>64057566 (OP)
KICK THAT SIGGER BITCH OFF THE RANGE!

>>64057566 (OP)
doesnt idpa allow open division guns with super light triggers?

>>64058489
problem isnt light triggers its that the gun goes off without the trigger

>>64058305
I’ve never been on Reddit, and I’ve got more guns than you. I just also don’t have a cold golem for a mother.

>>64058489
This should tell you a lot about the p320

>>64057978
Haru on the first page???

>>64058593

>>64058593

>>64058640
Sorry but I don't care about gold ship. Go back to posting Haru or switch to Mayano.

they should start banning them at ranges

I feel like there should be an It Ends Today General, instead of a dozen different threads dunking on sig

>>64058644

>>64058679
I'll take it.

>>64058679
sweaty

>>64058724
Since they are horses, shouldn't they be covered in a lather as opposed to sweat?

Although weebs would probably lose they shit if their horse waifus finished a derby looking like they just got bukaked.

>>64058232
>HK doesn't hire Indians
>>64058425
>they have retirement plans in Mumbai?
The Indian manufacturers will be fine.
MIM is used for manufacturing all sorts of parts, from locks, to kitchen items.
All the Indian manufacturing needs to do, is switch to making other crap that dies not need to be reliable.

>>64058575
Post guns.

>>64058378
>Dumb shit stirring boomer league admins just responding to internet retardation because they are too stupid to filter fact from reality.
I doubt this guy is the only person who had “uncommanded discharges” from a SIG P320, at an IDPA match or practice.

I am proudly intact and own HK and Beretta pistols

>>64058659
Make one then

>>64057978
good lord those abs

How did SIG get the military contract if it is shit?

>>64058899
hookers and or blackmail

>>64058749
Isn't it the same shit die-cast toy cars are made from? There's a bunch of shitty bicycle parts made from that shit floating around the market like a turd floating in the bowl

>>64058899
Suspiciously before the pistol trials they added a bunch of ex-generals and officers as executives and management. That combined with army retard hatred of the M9 and them vastly under bidding everyone else due to Indian MIM got them the contract

>>64058910
why didn't Glock try that?

>>64058749
>kitchen knife ND's into balls

>>64057566 (OP)
All three people who shoot IDPA who aren't using revolvers or 1911s are going to be very upset by this.

>>64058659
Agreed.

>>64057978
@Grok make the bed she’s sitting on a toilet.
>>64057566 (OP)
Honestly I’m surprised this hasn’t snowballed faster. I guess once big competitions start picking up pitchforks against the 320 it’ll become a nationwide thing.

>>64058813
God, I busted gallons to Meru’s animations in high school

>>64058124
Imagine being so brittle

>>64058659
someone please make /IET/
I basically use the internet for one thing at this point: did ben upload a video

>>64058899
>How did SIG get the military contract if it is shit?
No one specifically knows.
General theories include;
Bribery,
Ultra low bidding price, (at least $50 or so cheaper per pistol than Glock),
Political connections,
Or maybe the willingness to ship weapons to places like Columbia had something to do with it.

how would a p320 hurt anyone if it can only go off when a round is in the chamber? in literally every american shooting sport you carry your gun with an empty chamber until its time to shoot.

>>64059086
>such is life in the zigger vassal state

posts like this really shed some light on why there are two dozen p320 threads on /k/ rn

>>64058931
>Isn't it the same shit die-cast toy cars are made from? There's a bunch of shitty bicycle parts made from that shit floating around the market like a turd floating in the bowl
No.
“Die Cast” metal, usually refers to items made from metal with a low melting point, where the metal is cast in reusable dies, which are typically steel.
The “Die Cast” alloys vary, but Zinc alloys like Zamak are incredibly common nowadays, as is aluminum, but usually used for higher price items, and lead used to be common.
Technically bronze/brass, and copper alloys can all be die cast, as can other metal alloys, but it’s usually way less common.
MIM, ie. Metal Injection Molding, is a mire modern process, that involves mixing finely powdered metal, into a binding agent, usually some type of wax, and then injection molding the mixture into dies like plastic injection molding.
These metal powder/wax molded parts, are then put in an atmosphere controlled oven, then first burns away the binder wax, and then heat the metal ip to the temperature were the metal powder fuses.
The parts shrink during the process, but highly complex parts, which in some cases could not be machined, can be made using the process.
Another advantage is that metal alloys that cannot be forged or easily machined, can be potentially made to correct tolerances, or close enough that minimal subsequent machining is necessary.
The problem, is that the shrinkage and other factors have to be properly calculated, the dies can be expensive, and the wax molded parts can get damaged due to poor handling, so proper tolerancing and scrapping of “bad” parts need to be done, and SIG obviously was using parts that should have been scrapped, or was not reworking dies if parts came out slightly off.
For complicated parts for a complicated but cheap door lock, it’s a pretty good process.
It’s a bad process for critical gun parts if a manufacturer is unwilling to tweak the process, and scrap parts.

>>64059484
I have worked with both plastic and computer wafer production. In both industries there are automated quality assurance systems, usually cameras that can automatically detect flaws. They can be tuned pretty fine and systems can look at multiple angles and faces. I assume MIM must have such a quality process. Maybe those industries are totally different, but where I've been similar flaws would only pass because somebody specced the cameras to say they pass and not because the cameras are incapable of detecting flaws

>>64058146
>Yeah and 98% of the universe is dark matter and the succession of archaic hominids is totally verifiable.
>but talking snakes and every species on Earth fitting into one boat is totally real bro

>>64058097
>I would be begging HK for a job offer right now

It doesn't seem like HK is currently recruiting jew lawyers, russian-tier propagandists, or sniveling crybabies right now. If Sig had any professional engineers working for them then maybe HK would hire those guys, but they obviously haven't had any on the payroll in years.

>>64058749
Importing anything from India should require 1000% tariff.
BRICS is the new axis of evil, full stop.
Glory to Pakistan, Rafale go boom

>>64059506
>Indians
>QC
>Cameras
Have I got a bridge to sell to you.

>>64058899
>Show the best product during sales.
>Send the best product for first few batches
>Send "production steamlined" products after

>>64060389
they literally did not even do that. They lost to Glock in every single trial but got the competition ended early by "offering a deal the government couldn't refuse"
actual clown tier corruption

>>64057566 (OP)
Doesn't surprise me. IDPA is extremely anal about safety.

>>64060410
Glock was overcharging like fuck If you look at their bid anyone understand their production costs. But even if you don't want to believe that, they did not actually come out on top in every single area. There are many where the 320 was given a rating of "Excellent" while the Glock was considered "Adequate"

>>64059506
>I have worked with both plastic and computer wafer production. In both industries there are automated quality assurance systems, usually cameras that can automatically detect flaws. They can be tuned pretty fine and systems can look at multiple angles and faces. I assume MIM must have such a quality process. Maybe those industries are totally different, but where I've been similar flaws would only pass because somebody specced the cameras to say they pass and not because the cameras are incapable of detecting flaws
An Authorized SIG Armorer, said he visited SIG maybe back in 2017, and said that the bent metal body of the receivers were being hand drilled using Dewalt drills, (presumably with a jig).
This is similar to jig JSD made for making 80% “SIG” style receivers at home, which also required bending the two wings out that ride in the grooves in the slide.
The rest of the receiver parts and other P320 parts would simply have been bought from a SIG dealer and assembled.
Drilling parts out by hand isn’t inherently bad, plenty of high quality manufacturers rely on quality hand work.
However, if SIG was so technologically limited, or manufacturing so far beyond capacity, that making jigs do work could be carried out by hand, then precision checking parts using proper metrology or an optical comparator would also likely have been too expensive, or too time consuming to do for each component, and might only have been done as batch samples, possibly also loosening tolerances to avoid too much waste if components were in short supply.

>>64058813
skudbutt is a dumbass bitch who did one god tier animation and then did nothing else of value

>sikh saar

>>64060426
I read the whole paper when it got posted here and weren't those categories basically tailor made for the SIG entry?

>>64061480
Not really, that was just the salty Glockfags. The truth is that they wouldn't have had to make special categories that only Sig could win, as they excluded many of the competitors without even letting them run the trials at all. Glock could have easily been cut before even taking a shot, but they were honestly considering it until they saw the outrageous price (and it really is outrageous for how cheap a Glock is to make). Sig was also offering to make a lot of stuff for them also at a discount compared to sourcing it from many different people, while Glock had a handgun. It's a reliable handgun, but it's also pretty mid desu. You don't have to imagine a conspiracy when you realize that at the time the military legit thought they were getting more for less

>>64058640
That's a stallion.

>>64061609
I am so very close to automatically responding to these stupid posts with rule 34 art of Goldshi's pussy.

>>64058046
Sig has straight up lost control of the narrative at this point. They can't keep acting like they're in charge. It seems like the best thing they can do is just keep quiet until their 10 year, 500 million dollar contract is finished and then they can run with the money.

>>64057566 (OP)
What's the actual problem?The design itself?Low quality parts?
>>64061616
Oh yeah?
>https://www.jbis.jp/horse/0001104811/sire/progeny/

>>64057566 (OP)
The Sig of Damocles

>>64058899
Sig low balled it then glock did the math and said no thanks

>save $30 by hiring indians
>entire company disintegrates in a matter of 1 week
really surprising considering the state of india. how many times are we going to have to learn this lesson?

This demoralization thread again?

>>64062060
Who would it be demoralizing?

>>64057833
what a cohencedence

>>64058760
There was only one negligent discharge with a P320 and it was at a USPSA match with a fat sloppy beaner with a lose shirt so it was never clear if it was the gun or the shirt being caught in the holster

>>64058939
They offered high quality horse sperm for bribes. Liquid gold for the true connaisseur.
But hookers and blackmail won the day.

>>64062525
I would have given them the contract to see Gaston's wife milk horse's cum

>>64062369
>the person who was in the video was NOT WHITE
neither is anyone at sig sauer, retard. it's an indian-owned company

You're all sick people.
I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.
I put a curse upon you all.
Fuck ya
mudda

>>64062819
no u

>>64062631
>calls me retard
>starts randomly arguing with himself over who is or isn't white at a company

Are you okay, retard?

>>64062819
Seethe harder, sigger

>>64057632
>Siggers
>premier firearms producer in the United States
Your confusing them with S&W, Ruger, Larue Tactical, Unity Tactical, BCM, PSA, Nighthawk, Les Baer, Standard Manufacturing, and Gods chosen people (Ohioans) whom work for Ohio Ordinance just to name a few actual American companies with a good reputation.

Please put more effort into better informing yourself in the future anon.

>>64061714
Best I can tell, it's largely related to poor QC on some MIM parts coming out of India.
Mind you, MIM has gotten to the point where it can be used to make parts of a consistently high quality, but that's assuming the people in charge of manufacturing actually know what they're doing.