Alright I'll start

I think most people in this community simply cannot ever think for themselves and are most of the time nowadays entirely driven by a lack of emotional intelligence and the foresight to look into things at a genuine critical level while at the same time driving that sort of thinking away entirely.

>>64063563 (OP)
Op

>>64063568
I completely understand

>>64063563 (OP)
>online
>community
What like arfcom? akfiles? Because Reddit, 4chan, and Youtube comments don't count.

>>64063563 (OP)
>lack of emotional intelligence
What does this manifest as? "muh emotional intelligence" doesnt seem relevant to gun discussion at all, unless you're talking about people getting mad about something without themselves understanding why they're mad.

>>64063588
You don't know what words mean do you?

>>64063618
That and people just not being able to handle a conversation about something slightly controversial without going off the deep end

When the 2nd Amendment "absolutists" on this board went from "3D printer go brrr, noncompliance is the only solution" to "please call this automated hotline and beg to get some of your supposed gun rights back", I knew it was pretty much over and that ironically, people deserve gun laws and Palantir making an extralegal firearm owner registry

>>64063696
Zoomer take.

>>64063696
My guy you're literally the problem

>>64063702
>>64063705
>no argument
I accept your concession. You are welcome to try again in a new post, because this board doesn't have ID or flags so I have no idea which anon I'm replying to.

>>64063709
Don't need an argument, lil zoom zoom. It would only hurt your fragile out of depth brain.

>>64063709
You walked in and created your own meltdown, you're exactly what was described in OPs post

>>64063563 (OP)
These are complaints about the internet in general. I see the same crap on tool and music related forums too. Some people see tool brands like lifestyle brands and get personally offended if Brand A beats Brand B in a comparison. Milwaukee vs. Dewalt is just like Beretta vs. Glock. Also, you know how some people bitch about how some guns are "cheap corporate garbage" while others "have soul"? And how people lament how guns have gotten worse and aren't made as well as the "good old days"? It's the same crap with guitars and synths.

The internet tends towards extremes.

>>64063720
>zoomer
Internet brainrot. Please stop falling for generational divide and conquer.
>>64063731
>meltdown
What? Where?

>>64063696
you're confused.
The 2nd amendment absolutists all left this site to avoid getting their asses in trouble. people are much smarter about what they post here now generally speaking.
tl;dr you're just an idiot that won't do shit anyways.

>>64063736
>Internet brainrot.
If it walks like a duck....

>>64063696
>>64063709
You lost with BBB btw.

>>64063563 (OP)
I hate when people can't accept that some guns and accessories are more just for the fun of owning them than getting any actual use out of them. I lurk /arg/ and lots of anons on there are guilty of this. Yes I'm aware that my light is outdated, but no I'm not planning on relying on it to save my life. I just think it looks cool. I had one anon try to tell me that every gun range should be a literal two-way range with live ammunition, because how else are you going to simulate "real world usage"?

>>64063769
a lot of people have low self-esteem. They're not comfortable saying "I have X because I think it's cool" or "I'm buying into an image" (larping). They have to have something to fall back on, like a trend/person they're following, or some factoid they can point to, like "this gun has the highest capacity", "most expensive", "highest velocity", "biggest bullet", etc.

>>64063563 (OP)
>Things that piss you off about the online gun community
The only guy who knew what he was doing died of cancer last year.

>>64063769
>every gun range should be a literal two-way range with live ammunition
That's pretty fuckin funny. Do you get to keep the stuff of whoever you dome?

>>64063563 (OP)
there are too many bongs and liberals on /k/

>>64063769
I dont follow, a light is a light. Unless its a halogen bulb from the 90s with a 5 ft range, they don't really become outdated.

>>64063563 (OP)
larper operators obsessing over configurations and having THE ONE attachment and the EXACT esoteric barrel length and the need to drop 5 figures into ope8ter gear

nigga the day THE HAPPENING happens a looter's 11.5 inch psa with plastic heatshield handguards will kill you just as good as your gucci build

>>64063563 (OP)
>I think most people in this community simply cannot ever think for themselves and are most of the time nowadays entirely driven by a lack of emotional intelligence and the foresight to look into things at a genuine critical level while at the same time driving that sort of thinking away entirely.
Welcome to literally every hobby/interest there is. This is a human (read: retard) problem, not a problem specific to the gun community.

>>64063769
/arg/ is completely detached from reality

>>64063563 (OP)
Frankly that sounds more like an issue with the internet in general.

>>64063563 (OP)
I’ll list off a few petty ones
>somehow the gun community decided plastic pistols and AR variants were the only guns worth manufacturing
>if you don’t use *insert caliber* then you will die
>if you carry less than 3 magazines in your edc plus a tourniquet and flashlight you will die
>answering newbie questions with a ton of abbreviations and brand names rather than simple terms and the actual names of products
>a shitty war in Ukraine is being used as a metric to measure the combat effectiveness of guns and gear
>a huge range of popular and good quality guns and gun related gear is classified as “Reddit tier”
>the obsession with SBRs and thermals, and by that I mean people implying it’s the only way to effectively survive a combat encounter
>grabbers pretending not to be grabbers and spurg 2A advocates pretending not to be spurg 2A advocates

>>64063849
>Unless its a halogen bulb from the 90s with a 5 ft range
NTA but LED drop in bulb. I use LEDs in anything from vintage flashlights to vintage lamps and it probably extends their lifespan due to reduced heat and probably reduced UV exposure.

>>64063563 (OP)
People are defending a company that released a shake-awake single action by making other guns go off by pulling the trigger 99% and trying to pull the slide off

It's just consumerism and brand wars at the core

This might just be me, but the way Zombie Apocalypse gets butchered into hyper realistic long term survival tactics. Zombie culture is all about killing zombies and looking cool doing it. But walking dead stretched out the fun and made it into Amish soap opera with shit writing. And it leaked into the whole genre. 3 seconds into a zombie conversation and some Reddit tier nerd has to bring up
>errrm aktchually you’d likely die from tainted water and starvation rather than zombies or bandits
>and errrmm gasoline would go bad after a few months so vehicles would be useless almost immediately
Buddy, zombies exist for us to talk about the best way to shoot and stab them. Preferably with zombie green painted guns.

>>64064210
See, here's the thing. Actual survivalists outnumber zombie larpers 100:1 if not more, because, well, zombies aren't real. Nobody is going around killing them while looking cool. So, whenever the topic comes up it's assumed you're actually talking about prepping with "zombies" being just some silly excuse. If you are actually serious about zombie larping then just make that clear from the get-go, and you won't have to worry about people incorrectly assuming you're just a nerdy prepper.

>>64064220
I get what you’re saying, but a zombie discussion or thread is self evident. I don’t need to specify that the discussion is about “fun zombie fighting and prepping” because that IS zombies. Zombies are an outlandish prepper fantasy scenario to debate. Long term survival, farming, husbandry shouldn’t enter the conversation unless you specify that as part of the theme, not the other way around. It’s like talking about how you would live in the Avenger universe and the conversation is all about you manage to rebuild the wrecked cities and handle government contracts.

My biggest gripe are people that buy shit and never shoot it but sit around giving advice
Then there are people that do nothing but shoot but act like they're the fucking Messiah and wear a tripcode

People prepping for WWIII or some 30 minute long shootout against multiple armored opponent by buying LARP gear and tacticool "traning" while they aren't even remotely ready for an emergency that has an actual chance of happening like knowing how to CPR, Heimlich manoeuver, using a fire extinguisher or lighting a fire.

>>64063563 (OP)
My biggest gripe are people furiously masturbating over practicality which always and only means killing people, deer, hogs, bears. Never can a gun be meant for killing squirrels or small birds or just kept for the sake of its own enjoyment. It's gotten to the point where people recommend ARs over 10/22s and Mav88s for beginners despite the latter 2 being way cheaper and easier to shoot and therefore being way less off-putting to a n00b. Everything has to be srsbsns 25/8 no fucking about allowed

>>64064235
This. Though it depends on the conversation. It is /k, so technically a grand discussion about fighting multiple armed combatants is on point, and a response of
>but do you have a water filter and backup generator??
is a bit misplaced. Unless of course they are talking about general survival. But I do see what your saying, people devote far too much time on shooting claiming it’s going to carry them when “it” happens

>>64063563 (OP)
Being flooded by leftists and other Anti-gun faggots and if you call them out you get labeled a Russian shill.

>>64063563 (OP)
It's overwhelmingly populated with people who didn't own a gun before 2020 who now think they're experts because they've watched a bunch of youtube videos and bought an AR and a Glock.

>>64063563 (OP)
This is the ultimate heresy on this board, but idgaf. I don't know how anyone can believe in a complete lack of firearm regulation anymore. I'd never willingly give up my guns, but I'd also be willing to jump through reasonable hoops to keep them. I used to be an absolutist, but I look around the state of our current society and have come to feel like most of these retards out here have no business owning a gun. The mouthbreathers on this site have only reinforced this opinion over the years.

>>64064266
Or just saying you don't care about today's meager shift in the frontline or not wanting to watch yet another person get blown up by a nade drop. I'm sorry but they've gotten immensely boring

>>64064291
I agree with your feelings, but you have to remember, every time you implement a new gun regulation, more will follow. And as time goes on they keep stacking up until things get real bad .

>>64064282
That image made me sad. Most of my niche hobbies and interests have already been blown up by normies and cash grabbers. I only have few left, and as much as I’d love to share it with others, I’m going to keep them to myself as long as possible.

>>64064298
Yeah I have to swallow that bitter pill of either accepting retards and letting there be holes in the roof and floor of the indoor range or basically poison my rights even more. Terrible decision either way but I'd rather deal with retards with guns than retards that write laws because they cause way less damage and are statistically not childfuckers

>>64064248
.22 is probably the least fun thing to shoot

>>64064311
It’s a hard choice, but I choose morons shooting the ceiling. I’ll tell you why.
>retards with guns
>not great
>shoots holes in floor and ceiling
>moderate chance of being near them at the range and in danger
>kill each other in petty squabbles and road rage’s
>sometimes affects innocent people
Vs
>retard elected
>knows even less about guns than the retards shooting floors
>gets information about gun danger and accessories from social media and Karen’s
>pass laws that are 99% grabbing normal people’s guns and 1% stopping retards from owning guns
>and that 1% just borrow guns from slightly less retarded retard that slipped through the net
Choice number one at least gives to the chance to be vigilant and avoid retards at the range. Once laws hit the books it’s pretty much in stone and only goes forward to worse laws

>>64064248
Why are you killing squirrels and small birds?

>>64064303
I don't give reloading advice to noobs for that reason. Put in the effort and find the basic beginner information yourself, there's a whole internet already out there and reloading supplies are limited. Gatekeeping is done for a reason, but the internet has made many hobbies way too accessible for people who would have been easily weeded out or pleb filtered 20 years ago.

>>64064342
Because starlings are dicks and I may or may not have armed the local squirrel population with the intention of keeping my neighbor's dog from shitting on my lawn and now they've formed an anti-human organization

You're all sick people.
I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.
I put a curse upon you all.
Fuck ya
mudda

>>64064577
YOU FOOOL, YOU'VE DOOMED US ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>64063653
Shut the fuck up reddit nigger.

>>64063705
>literally
Niggers fuck your dad's swollen anus.

>>64064521
Same. My dnd group back in the let in a bunch of casual coworkers and yuppies and it quickly fell apart because nobody cared about the game. It fell apart from inner politics and splicing in other game themes “for fun”. Now me and the other 2 core members reformed and play exclusively in secret. I also rarely bother to tell people I own guns. There’s almost never a reason to flap your mouth about your guns. It can only lead to trouble or tourists.

>>64064577
Based squirrel commander

>>64064761
Damn must suck to suck for you and the other anon. I work for an LGS DnD talk and gun talk all day everyday. Openly talk about that shit with a few of the corpo guys that come in as well as gun reps. Our Springfield rep is a massive fucking nerd that's been debating if he wants to dive into trench crusade or not.

>>64064210
>but the way Zombie Apocalypse gets butchered into hyper realistic long term survival tactics

I blame the CDC for making that stupid blogpost.

https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/6023

It would've been better if it was an April Fool's joke. IIRC, it wasn't.

this guy here >>64063709 is the thing that pisses me off about online gun discussion

Everything is personal. The thing you like is flawless and the thing you hate is both useless garbage and was sent to earth by brown jewish Satan to torment you. And evidence otherwise is fake shill shit

>>64064291
Because all the regulations we've suffered so far were trying (and failing) to fix a symptom of an underlying disease. Violent crime will always be a problem when and where the economy is shit and social cohesion is low. It's not a coincidence that gun crime peaked during the 70s and the crack epidemic.

>>64064823
>commander
Yeah about that, turns out squirrels hate taking orders

>>64064761
I disagree on that last part, but I think it's dependent on where you live. I live in the mountain west, most people have guns in my part of it, and I've gotten to try out some neat guns from going to the range with coworkers I've met who were also into shooting.
>>64064977
The internet as a whole has a really shitty way of forcing everything into black vs white with nothing between. It's just really easy to get responses with simplified contests like ".45 vs 9mm", "polymer vs. metal", "semi auto vs. revolver", "AK vs AR", and so on that invite people to choose a side and argue over it.

>community
lmao. owning a product does not make you a member of a “community”

>>64065140
Having an interest forms a community, not owning a product. If posting on /k/ relied on people actually owning guns, this community would be pretty damn small.

>>64063563 (OP)
Community?

>>64064839
That sounds cool. It’s been a rough road getting our group back together. Our big group consisted of friends and family and peaked at 10 members. Then Trump election started and everyone got reeeeeal sensitive. Everyone formed clicks and fought it out. The main group sided with the interracial gay couple and tried to shame me and my buddies for liking guns and light conservative views. But we got the last laugh because the black guy in the gay couple turned out to be a sex offender. They tried to ditch them and crawl back but we shut them down and went off on our own. Funny how leftist groups always have at least 1 sex offender

>>64064139
>plus a tourniquet and flashlight
You mean,
> plus a tourniquet and fleshlight

>>64064839
Trench crusader here, tell him to dive in. Core rules plus full army/gear lists for all factions is just 180 pages, and it's model agnostic so any minis you happen to have laying around are good to go.
Also, talking hobbies with corpos is how I went from teller to branch manager for a bank in 4 months rather than the 10 years it normally takes. Make a good impression on the right person is the fastest way to move up the ladder.

How easily led by the nose by marketing they are. Hypebeasts falling for it are destroying the industry as credible manufacturers of quality products lose market share to companies that focus more on SEO and astroturfing and selling at a loss to agencies for recognition. Who wants to hear a joke?

>Q: What do Q, Geissele, SIG and Radian have in common?

>A: The customers

>>64065532
>Funny how leftist groups always have at least 1 sex offender
All groups contain sex offenders because sex offenders are very common. Any occupation that works with or around kids is full of them. Teachers, coaches, scouting, church "youth groups".

>>64065123
>The internet as a whole has a really shitty way of forcing everything into black vs white
It's not just the internet, that's human nature. IRL situations are complex but we humans constantly want to reduce things to black and white.

>>64064248
>My biggest gripe are people furiously masturbating over practicality which always and only means killing people, deer, hogs, bears. Never can a gun be meant for killing squirrels or small birds or just kept for the sake of its own enjoyment. It's gotten to the point where people recommend ARs over 10/22s and Mav88s for beginners despite the latter 2 being way cheaper and easier to shoot and therefore being way less off-putting to a n00b. Everything has to be srsbsns 25/8 no fucking about allowed
I feel like /k/ actually does pretty well pushing back on this relatively speaking, at least in the few threads I pay attention to. There are plenty of anons who will cheerfully tell you that looking cool, being fun, and being within budget are critical aspects of gun purchases and make fun of larpers. Including anons with incredibly nice guns they like, but will still be like "yeah but it's trash value I got because I like it and you can do way better with XYZ at 1/5 the price" or admit the obvious 80/20 rule for accessories.

>>64066221
Is geissele really hypebeast though? They have items regularly in stock with consistent big sales that are really good at suppressing prices on the secondary market. Their standard products also have an actual value proposition compared to those other brands.

>>64066354
>geissele
Their triggers are wildly overrated and overpriced MIM and cast pot metal shit.
And if I recall correctly, the owner is some kind of weird hyper-Zionist who brags about voluntarily donating money to Israel because he thinks it'll make Jesus return to earth.

>>64063696
t. political "ideas guy" who thinks his contribution to the cause is telling people to do political violence

>>64066354
the anon you're replying to is a 'just as good' poster who balks at the idea of spending more than 30 dollars on an accessory.

>>64063563 (OP)
Glowniggers tongue my anus

>>64065532
>clicks

>>64063769
/arg/ is retarded, they spend money so much for brand names.

>>64064839
Avoid trench crusade, it's okay rules buried in the shallowest egdelord setting with a fan base made up of annoying discord leftists. The game and it's fans actively lower the quality of /tg=

>>64066415
*/tg/

>>64063696
Going to assume you mean calling/emailing regarding a law in Congress.
Which to you I say this, when did anyone ever say you have to stop doing 3-D printing to call your local rep to not pass a gay ass law. If anything the calling and the gay ass law never being passed in the first place is much easier for everyone but it's not a zero sum binary choice.

>>64066388
Oh excuse me, “cliques”. Here’s some gold kind stranger

>>64066354
No, Geissele doesn't make anything that is significantly better than other competitors, they just use marketing to inflate their perceived value to occupy (in the minds of hypebeasts) a market position that suggests an increased value proposition
>>64066366
incorrect, and the typical cope you expect to see from a geisslop slurper. There are many brands that exceed the quality and value of Geissele, the difference being that they put their money into engineering and QC instead of brand-engineering. Geissele is firmly Q/Sig-tier, not just in the quality of the engineering and workmanship but in the fact that they "earn" their money with the same strategies as those other companies. I used to buy Geissele when I was a new AR owner and over the years have slowly sold basically everything I ever owned from them because it's almost entirely india-tier manufacturing dressed up as "duty grade" by wining/winning contracts

>>64066708
>No, Geissele doesn't make anything that is significantly better than other competitors, they just use marketing to inflate their perceived value to occupy (in the minds of hypebeasts) a market position that suggests an increased value proposition
In the AR market you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that makes anything significantly better these days unless you go to two extremes of price point (even then....). I would say the G2S (maybe the pricier ones but I only have experience with the G2S) is competitive with the MBT2 around 80-90 dollars, whatever barrels they source for the URGI's are reportedly pretty stellar (there's a 9 holes reviews video with like two or three of the things being very accurate and those guys actually shoot), and their rails can be found on sale, secondary market, or blem regularly less than $200 sometimes close $100 (personally prefer their rails due the design variety, the double crossbolt lock-up, and anti rotation set screws). There's also the REBCG, arguably more worth it than the improved version LMT makes which is really only useful if you buy just the improved LMT bolt as the carrier doesn't play well with all setups.

Tl;dr I think there's plenty of value to be found in geissele for mid and even lowish range prices

>>64066791
I'll add to my little rant here that you contrast this with a company like KAC. (Caveat here being: as of the last time i kept abreast of KAC things which was fairly recently) The fact that uppers can sit on shelves for a decent amount of time while lowers go for bonkers prices immediately (both distributor and used market) is quite telling. I get they focus on .gov contracts but their civ side is handled like Spiritus dribbling out 7 mismatched patches of fabric that might get you a complete chest rig every other month.

>>64063563 (OP)
Tacticool dudes worshiped like gods.

>>64066362
I don't promote or condone violence but I do understand that it's inevitable.

>>64066809
What does it tell? That people just want the roll mark on the lower?

>>64064291
Because none of the regulations stop the people doing crime from getting guns anyway. Do you know how many firearm homicides are committed by convicted felons? The guy who just randomly decides to plug somebody on a whim is extremely rare. The vast majority are done by people with a criminal history a mile long.

We don't need more regulation, we just need to actually enforce the ones we have.

>>64063563 (OP)
It's made up of coping poors