Gun safety design - /k/ (#64065624)

Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:27:10 AM No.64065624
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Some negligent engineering choices made by a Swiss-German-American firearms manufacturer, let's say Company A, has rekindled my interest in gun design. The current state-of-the-art for striker-fired handguns, like those from Company B, have at least two safeties that are defeated by pulling the trigger beyond the frame:
1. Trigger safety: Prevents the trigger from traveling with its own inertia when dropped (and maybe if something like clothing gets caught without making full trigger contact)
2. Striker safety: It blocks the path of the striker pin until the trigger bar is moved beyond the trigger safety limit
It is also known Company B advertises its trigger bar actuation as "Drop safety", but to me it feels like calling the trigger a safety, so I personally don't consider this a safety. But understand it's not redundant in the event the sear lock and striker safety fail simultaneously.

Company A decided to make a striker-fired handgun, but for some reason decided to skip the trigger safety. But they also designed it so that the striker safety is defeated when the trigger is moved by 1 mm. It's documented the same trigger can move under its own weight more than 1 mm when dropped on hard surfaces at the correct angle. But most damningly their manufacturing tolerances allow the sear to literally slip off with some wear and bad luck. Some will say the engineers knew the problems but they were forced to go along with it, but that doesn't change the fact, to have these problems in the first place, you must suck at mechanical engineering

Anyway discuss gun safeties. What safeties do you like on your gun? I think grip safeties are cool, I wish they were more common.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:40:11 AM No.64065645
>>64065624 (OP)
Keep it to one thread you autistic fuckwit
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:48:04 AM No.64065661
>>64065645
Show me the other thread? This thread is about gun safety.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:00:46 AM No.64065677
>>64065661
Kill yourself
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:05:05 AM No.64065682
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>>64065677
No need to be so angry, you can just israeli carry or carry something else from your favorite gun company kid
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:06:01 AM No.64065685
>>64065677
he got you to reply, all you had to do was not type.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:18:49 AM No.64065765
>>64065624 (OP)
What was it with old gun ads in magazines and this schizo-tier formatting?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:25:23 AM No.64065774
>>64065624 (OP)
>Revolvers, shot guns and bicycles.

Comfy as fuck.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:23:18 PM No.64067122
>>64065624 (OP)
>Swiss-German-American firearms manufacturer
Sig USA is solely responsible for the P320.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 8:25:50 PM No.64067133
who are you trying to convince rn? its not like /k/ was ever a pro-sig board.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:54:06 PM No.64067487
>>64065624 (OP)
>But they also designed it so that the striker safety is defeated when the trigger is moved by 1 mm.
I think the real problem is the sear is mechanically coupled to the trigger bar in both directions, so the striker safety does absolutely nothing because the sear can pull the trigger. The trigger bar should be able to actuate the sear but not the other way around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6if3Fno-SQE
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:02:23 PM No.64067530
>>64065624 (OP)
Hammer fired pistols with transfer bars are the only safe option, everything else is pure hopium.
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:11:27 PM No.64067579
strikershit is inherently unsafe. If your gun doesn't have a hammer, I'm not buying it
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 10:52:00 PM No.64067779
>>64067530
Tribalism is pointless because there are right and wrong ways to do both. A safe striker-fired design requires a functioning striker block that doesn't automatically defeat itself when the sear fails
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 11:01:57 PM No.64067835
>>64067779
>A safe striker-fired design requires a functioning striker block that doesn't automatically defeat itself when the sear fails
and a proper manual safety
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:19:13 AM No.64068238
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>>64067835
I would be okay with a grip safety too. Are there any striker-fired semi-autos with a grip safety?
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:20:33 AM No.64068247
>>64068238
XD lol lmao
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:21:34 AM No.64068254
>>64068238

Springfield XD.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:21:41 AM No.64068255
>>64068238
grip safies are silly and no replacement for a proper manual safety, but the xd had one iirc
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:25:25 AM No.64068271
>>64067779
It has nothing to do with tribalism and every thing to do with mechanics. Physically disconnecting the firing pin from everything except the transfer bar and requiring the trigger to not only be pulled but held in place for the transfer bar to remain in position means it's almost impossible both for the firing pin to be acidentally engaged AND sufficient force transferred to fire a round. I'm not going to say it's completely impossible because I've seen machines do some genuinely weird shit but it basically requires deliberately trying to make it fail. Relying on blocks, retainers, half cock positions, or anything that isn't physical disconnect is just hoping they don't fail. Some are more robust than others but none are as completely reliable as physical disconnect and a transfer bar does that.
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:39:03 AM No.64068331
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>>64068254
>>64068247
>Ultra Safety Assurance (USAโ„ข) USA Trigger Systemโ„ข safety
>striker safety
>grip safety
>optional thumb safety
That's a lot of safeties XD
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:47:12 AM No.64068363
>>64068331
No magazine interlock?
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Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:48:04 AM No.64068368
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>>64068271
>It has nothing to do with tribalism
>but none are as completely reliable as physical disconnect and a transfer bar does that
Sounds like tribalism to me. What does a transfer bar do that a striker block doesn't? And are you telling me you only trust double-action revolvers?
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 12:53:35 AM No.64068388
>>64068363
>Some XD-M Elite pistols are available with a magazine disconnect.
What's the point of a magazine disconnect? Just retard-proofing for cleaning NDs?
Anonymous
8/3/2025, 1:15:13 AM No.64068481
>>64068238
S&W Shield EZ has one