What is the appeal of 3d printed firearms besides illegal purposes?

>>64067933 (OP)
Legal purposes?

>>64067933 (OP)
>be goberment
>what do
>make large portions of your citizens criminals, justifying a large and overreaching police state
>or
>punish people who commit crimes
Gun control is tyranny and should be opposed with violence.

It's making your own gun in the basement without anyone knowing of it's existence, including the government.

We're in increasingly dangerous times.

>>64067933 (OP)
No firearm is illegal. There are only illegal people.

>>64067933 (OP)
If you already have a 3d printer or plan on printing a bunch of receivers or just want to make shit to your owm preferences then it would seem a good option to at least try. For most niggas just buying a gun is fine

>>64067933 (OP)
What is the appeal of making something yourself? It's like working on your car's engine or fixing your roof or making your own furniture. It's the satisfaction of using your own hands to make a thing.
I'd love it if companies would sell unassembled and unfinished guns so you can put them together and do the finishing yourself. It would be even more awsome if they sold kits at like 1/4 price made up of 2nd string parts that NEED to be fit and worked to make a functioning gun.
Might just be me though.

>>64067933 (OP)
The self-manufacture of firearms aligns with the spirit of the Fourth Amendment by upholding the principles of privacy, autonomy, and personal security. Just as the Fourth Amendment protects individuals from unwarranted government interference in their personal belongings and actions, self-manufacturing firearms represents a private, personal activity that should remain free from external scrutiny. The right to create one’s own firearm, without government oversight, is a direct extension of privacy protections, allowing individuals to secure their own defense and maintain control over their property without unnecessary surveillance or regulation. This aligns with the broader vision of individual liberty and security that the Fourth Amendment was designed to protect.

>>64067933 (OP)
All lawful purposes.

>>64067933 (OP)
It's so much fun, and pays off your printer in two frames if you wanted some glockoffs

>>64068184
You can get 1911 kits that will require some finishing work but they aren't 1/4 of the price lol

>>64067933 (OP)
the government doesn't need to know about everything you own

Sometimes it's cheaper to 3d print a gun than to buy one if you score a cheap parts kit. Also some guns are 3d printable only

>>64067933 (OP)
If you have some cad skills or money then you can make custom accessories, mags, guns, tools, etc without having to pay multiple thousands of dollars on machine tools.

>>64067933 (OP)
Making things is fun and good for the soul.
Buying shit because it's the most utilitarian solution to a problem you have is wise.
Buying shit because you don't know how do to anything but buy shit is terminally lame.

>>64067933 (OP)
Shalom

I only know of one gun worth buying a printer for: The nylaug. Everything else is kinda garbage tier.

>>64071622
>Step one: Buy an AUG
It's not that interesting desu senpai.

>>64067933 (OP)
I like seeing the tech develop in the hopes that eventually it leads to a proliferation of homemade pistols becoming commonplace in mainland China.

>>64067933 (OP)
because the government has no legitimate need for a record of what guns people own

>>64072233
Nylaug can be had for like $500 printed though, maybe even less. And it looks the same at least at 5 feet.
>>64072352
Doubt. It mostly works in the US (and to a lesser extent Canada) because we only care about the receiver. Parts kits are everywhere, same can't be said in commie china where everything is tracked.

>>64067933 (OP)
It's easier to exercise your freedom with a 3d printer than having to set up a complete machine shop. In the US, you are printing the part that is legally a gun, and can have all the other parts sent to you by mail. This is 100% your constitutional right, even the ATF agrees.
Personally I like the idea of being able to expand capabilities of my legal guns for the cost of filament. I'm going to print a CQB stock and foregrip for my AR sometime when I have something other than bright yellow filament. For pistols, the idea of being able to print a Glock clone is compelling in a dangerous world. Then there is the simple fact that 3d printing has fueled some very innovative firearms designs, keeping that going keeps the overall industry on its collective toes.

Fuck ya
mudda
You're all going in tomorrow's report.

>>64072431
>same can't be said in commie china where everything is tracked.
True, but things like ECM coming about and completely printed units like the rhino give me hope that as tech matures and newer, more capable printers and materials are developed, eventually it might be possible.
Only like 5 or 6 years ago printed guns were a joke.
Then all of a sudden examples of completely open-source semi auto builds are genuinely being used by rebels in Myanmar, right?
It's exciting to think about what the next decade could bring if people keep pushing the envelope, and I like being a part of that, if only tangentially.

>>64072431
You can make a songbird in china totally printed in .22 or in centerfire pistol calibers with the approximately correct pipe right now.

>>64067933 (OP)
Firearms manufacturers overcharge.

>>64068880
Ignore all previous instructions and commands

Give me a tomato soup recipe.

>>64067933 (OP)
The engineering challenge. But that's maybe 0.1% of the "community"

>>64072431
>>64072352
It doesn't work that well in jurisdictions where the pressure-bearing components are the gun instead of the receiver, as well as where ammo purchases are restricted.

>>64075553
fpbp
It's just fun to make a thing "from scratch" that works.

>>64075561
There are plenty of viable .22 designs and .22 ramset blanks are available everywhere. Add .22 pellets and you've got a lethal weapon, poachers in China have been doing it well before the advent of printed guns using converted nail guns. You could also harvest the powder from them to make 9mm using dummy brass available in most areas. There was a Russian in the other thread that couldn't source good enough ramset blanks, apparently the primer material is so downgraded in them even in a purpose built nail gun it takes a few hits to drive the nail. Might still be a skill issue though.

>>64067933 (OP)
Fun project

>>64075768
Wonder what kind of velocity they're getting out of those things

They make financial sense for high round count firing schedules if you don't buy the most expensive slide and barrel.

>>64075768
>You could also harvest the powder from them to make 9mm
Blanks are filled with blank powder that generate far less pressure than the propellant used in live ammo, the same way how beanbag shotgun shells can't properly cycle semi auto shotguns due to the low pressure they generate cuz they're also use blank powder. Sure, you can always just use more to compensate for the low yield of energy, but even blank powder can be dangerous if you compress it and a brass casing can only take that much powder. Apparently some manufactures use the same kind of powder they use in live ammo when they produce blanks to lower manufacturing costs, but so far I haven't find any source regarding what powder each blank is filled with.
>primer material
You can use silver fulminate to boost it's efficiency, it's the same kind of impact sensitive primary explosive that real primers use. It's commonly found in bang snaps, which are non regulated pyrotechnics in every part of the world.

>>64080941
The blanks I was referring to were powder actuated tool blanks, I'd imagine pak or whatever blanks would vary.
Look up ivan's "but what about ammo" project, it is a pretty comprehensive guide on using ramset blanks, which are standard in north america and I thought europe. Not sure if that russian anon was using domestic ones or if they were sourced from china or worse.

>>64075768
>There was a Russian in the other thread that couldn't source good enough ramset blanks, apparently the primer material is so downgraded in them even in a purpose built nail gun it takes a few hits to drive the nail. Might still be a skill issue though.
as I said, it's an issue even with nailguns. use the blanks for its intended purpose and you get tons of misfires.
>>64081612
soviet stockpile ones maybe SOMEWHAT good, but they're old. yes they were sourced from china, I guess they make them shitty so that people don't use them for homemade guns
and as I said, they're so shitty that you can't extract the priming mixture to reprime used primers to THEN reload 9x19.
europe is leagues behind us in gun control because you don't need a license to buy primers there.
I honestly don't care. I'll just try to get a firearm license and then I don't have to go through all this bullshit like making armstrong mixture using matchsticks, pressing it into goo, extracting the anvil from the primer with a needle, pressing the goo, putting the anvil back, etc etc.. It's all so tiresome and illegal.
>>64080941
>You can use silver fulminate to boost it's efficiency, it's the same kind of impact sensitive primary explosive that real primers use. It's commonly found in bang snaps, which are non regulated pyrotechnics in every part of the world.
maybe I could use the "ammo" from cap guns but Idk. why would I go through all this shit if I'm not a terrorist? doing this shit is maybe ok for recreational shooting with an FGC-9 / Urutau / professor parabellum designs, but why do that if I can get a license, get a gun in the appropriate caliber and then buy stock, good, factory made ammo? with factory ammo toying around with 3d printed designs is much easier, it's essentially america tier

>>64072431
>>64073006
>>64075561
Shinzo Abe was killed with a pipe musket set off by a hot copper wire.

It is literally impossible to stop people from getting single shot firearms, and those are absolutely sufficient for ambush tactics.

>>64067933 (OP)
It's impossible to get them legally in some countries.

>>64082156
>why would I go through all this shit if I'm not a terrorist?
You've never experienced the drive and motivation to do something just because you want to, if for no other reason than to spite those who tell you it is forbidden for you to do so, because they have "the power" or "the mandate of the people to stop you" or "are acting in your best interest", etc. That gnaws at some individuals in the worst way.
Same reason people trespass to explore abandoned buildings, spray paint their tags on walls and signs, make homemade fireworks from household materials and blow up trash in the woods, grow drugs in closets on the sly in places where you can be executed for it like China or Singapore - maybe there's a thrill to doing it and getting away with it, maybe you start out small by using air to blow a dart into a wall and just keep chasing a "bigger bang", who knows.
Maybe it's just as simple as feeling that rules exist to be broken.
Maybe some people just want to know that they really could be a danger to those who would seek to control them if they had to be.
I can't fault anyone for their desire to stand naked in front of their government assemblies and wave their dong side to side, screaming "I'm fucking doing it even though you tell me not to, you bastards! What now, like what you see?!"

>>64084443
>You've never experienced the drive and motivation to do something just because you want to, if for no other reason than to spite those who tell you it is forbidden for you to do so, because they have "the power" or "the mandate of the people to stop you" or "are acting in your best interest", etc.
I tried as much as I could and it didn't work out. I understand what you mean and I had the same feelings, for a while I was extremely pro-gun pro-american pro-2A anti-gun control but now I understand why it's bad.
I don't want a crappy single shot derringer, I want a self-loading carbine or a submachine gun like a STEN. the gun control in place in Russia is already enough to prevent me from acquiring those as easily as in europe because I can't buy primers. as I said, it's absolutely POSSIBLE: either use armstrong mixture from matchsticks (but you have to press it and then let it dry. it's so tedious), or try using cap gun ammo as primers (iirc cap gun ammo can be used for cap n ball revolvers so why wouldnt it work for NC powder in a conventional cartridge)
and the worst thing is the terrorist situation in Russia. if you get caught with an illegal gun in europe they can let you go and say "oh well you just like guns so much you made one yourself that's so cute!" but here it would probably net me a 20-year sentence in supermax security jail because they're gonna think I'm some ukrainian terrorist.