Why is the C7A2 the best variant of the M16?

>>64099803 (OP)
Because it's got the coolest back up carry handle irons ever made.

>>64099803 (OP)
thats a man

>wowww it gween!
>woww da c79!

you like it because its exotic to you.

>>64099959
Picrelated

It would be even better if it had an A5 length buffer, 18" mid-length barrel and monolithic upper receiver

>>64100002
>a5
meme
>18"
ok I guess
>midlength
why even use that with 18" what are you retarded? Of course.
>monolithic
Horrible trash that provides no benefit and weighs immensely more

>>64099803 (OP)
I like the green furniture

>>64100063
Interesting how you can have all the wrong opinions

>>64100399
nigger

>>64100002
>A5 length buffer
Yes
>18"
You've already committed to not having a carbine. Just deal with the extra 2 inches of a 20" for better ballistics.
>mid-length
why the hell would you intentionally choose a shorter gas system length when both 18" and 20" are long enough for rifle length gas
>and monolithic upper receiver
Not a substantial enough improvement to eat the cost. A hypothetical extended URG-I for an M16A5/C7A3 would deliver like 90%+ of the functionality while being substantially cheaper (at least based on the costs I've seen for both).

>>64100661
It would be massively cheaper. Monolithic uppers are made as a forging. So the entire rail would be part of the forging. Just one huge block of aluminum, that then needs machined down into handguard. It's very expensive, time consuming, and provides minimal benefit. And of course it's gonna weigh a fuckload, about the same as a full length quad rail would, if you opt for mlok on your monolithic.

The optic and handguard could be updated, but conceptually the rifle length barrel with an adjustable LOP stock is the best design for a general issue service rifle yes.

>>64099803 (OP)
>selector on fire
I fucking hate women in the military so much bros

That tattoo is hideous.

>>64100824
Good catch lol

>>64099803 (OP)
People with hand tattoos need to have their rights stripped from them for being mentally unstable and aesthetically abhorrent

>>64099803 (OP)
Mogged by an 11.5 PSA AR

>>64102064
Welcome to modern wymyn

>>64099803 (OP)
As a former CAF member it’s not. That said the new C8A4s are good, but I think the Danish ones are setup better.

>>64102101
>aesthetically abhorrent
Unlike you, babygirl. heyyy

>>64103137
>Froogoogaga is too poor for a 300 blackout

>>64100824
Its unloaded you never served fuckwit

>>64103137
Was literally thinking 'wheres PSA anon' and here he is

>>64103432
>trusting a wook to walk around with a weapon off safe
speak yourself you non combat faggot

>>64103432
>Never assume your weapons unloaded! >Always keep your safety on and keep your booger hook off the bang switch!
>But reddit-kun, you cant put the safety on if the rifle isn't cooked
>...... I KNEW that I'm just saying cos its basic rules of weapon safety!!!

>>64103460
>cocked
>>64103450

And it was meant for you retarded anon

>>64103450
You are a pedantic mongaloid

>>64103466
>wook walks around in blank fire training with weapon off safe
>continues to do so during a live fire exercise or god forbid actual combat (lmao)
>something retarded happens because she was allowed to develop retarded habits
lol
lmao even

>>64103486
Holy fuck, do you actually not know the weapon cannot go on safe if it isn't cocked?

>>64103497
>that weapon isn't cocked
>trust me

>>64103503
You must be a cop. The only organizations I know of that are so retarded they keep rifles cocked at all times in order to keep them on safe.

>>64099803 (OP)
How long until softubers/vetubers start interviewing former female/womyn specops?

>SO I BEAT THIS GUY WHO THOUGHT I COULDN'T DO IT
>I KILLED 50 TALIBAN BY MYSELF
>THAT GUY GOT SHOT AND I CARRIED HIS STUPID MISOGYNIST ASS

>>64103515
>you must be a cop
lol no
in the same movement you bring your weapon to bear on a target you can take the safety off and its second nature if you actually do more than shoot cardboard

>>64103486
>>64103503
>unloads and clears rifle for river crossing
>can't put the safety on
>come out of water, retard on shore
"Why isn't your safety on, how can you be sure it's unloaded!'"
>I unloaded for the river crossing and I physically cant put the safety on without cocking the rifle anon....
"Fucking women you wouldn't do that in a warzone how do you know that rifle is REALLY safe unless the safety is on?!"

>>64103580
>unloading for a river crossing
>while wearing a fucking main pack
>so the river is clearly shallow enough to walk across without drowning
jej

>>64103636
Clearing a weapon before doing something like that, especially in training is common practice, hell they might have never even loaded in the first place because its training
>main pack
They float if you kit is packed in dry bags, which they should be
>clearly shallow
You have no way of telling that.
Either way it's all distracting from the point that you can't put the safety on an AR 15 pattern rifle like this unless the hammer is cocked.

>>64103745
>during training we don't cross danger areas like we should
>we will unload and let our weapons get wet
>we will also train with our blank fire attachments on and our weapons on fire with the hammer dropped
>our packs "should" float but that doesn't matter because we're all wearing carriers with plates and mags
next you'll say they don't have that shit and this is all just so they can walk around for no reason

>>64103783
>you can't put the safety on on this rifle if it's unloaded

>>64103795
>I can't read: the post

>>64099803 (OP)
>all tatted up
WHORE!

monolithic uppers are complete snake oil retardation. Euros love this kind of shit for some reason. The US Army/USMC are completely fine with the zero retention of the M4/M5 RAS system, which is not free floated at all. There was never any need for perfect zero retention on your LAM or whatever other hypothetical devices soldiers would be putting on their rails, it's just not that serious if the thing moves 2 moa under recoil.

Perfect zero retention was one possible downside of the M4 and companies were coming with all kinds of solutions to keep in their pocket for future contracts to soak up GWOT pentagon funding, in the end the RIS II won and then the Mk14, and there's really no reason to ever look at monolithic and their retarded barrel nut designs again (looking at you colt 6940)

The C7A2 is basically perfect if it had a picatinny spec upper rail and they ditched the stupid pokey sling end plate and large latch charging handle. It has rails where they are actually needed and nowhere else. What nobody wants to admit is plastic A2 handguards actually do a phenomenal job of keeping your hand insulated from the heat of the barrel, they're easy to rip off when it's time to clean the rifle, you can bang them on shit and not care because they're $16 to replace

>>64099803 (OP)
0/10 would not operate with

>>64103799
Your whole autistic rage started with the safety being off. Everything else is just deflection from the fact the rifle can't be put in safe when it's been unloaded and the rifle in OP pic is clearly unloaded

>>64099803 (OP)
I think in many ways it is a better version of what the M16A4 should have been. Kept the full auto, gave it a collapsing stock in an era with more body armor, no fucked up A2 barrel profile.
I'm not entirely sold on adding a Picatinny section to the FSB instead of some kind of rail solution for the handguards, but OTOH clamshells are comfy and I'm sure reduced forward weight.
The C7 charging handles are a fucking insane design though. I appreciate being ambi friendly but there are better ways.
The 20 inch barrel is longer than most people these days prefer, but that's at more recent trend for a default service AR so I don't hold it against the C7

>>64103890
lol you illiterate nigger
the weapon is off safe
it doesn't matter if the hammer is cocked or not
there might still be a round in the fucking chamber, who knows
if there is, she's retarded
if there isn't, and the weapon was cleared and the hammer dropped on an empty chamber, it's shitty retarded training done by a shitty retarded unit
you don't understand these things because, again, you're an illiterate nigger

>>64103157
I wish Canadians can have these.

>>64103900
20" barrels get the most out of 5.56, its one reason so many countries adopted bullpups, they've all got around 20" barrels in shorter overall packages than the m4 carbine with its 14.5" barrel

>>64103912
>there might still be a round in the fucking chamber
Or there might not be because its unloaded, and you can check the hammer isn't down by trying to put the safety on but you can't, so even if there was somehow a round in the chamber and the hammer was up it wouldn't fucking matter because the rifle won't fire no matter how many times you pull the trigger.

>>64103921
>20" barrels get the most out of 5.56
No they don't. You keep gaining velocity out of longer barrels. You lose hardly any from shorter barrels. 20" is entirely an arbitrary length. The only reason the M16 had a 20" barrel is because the AR-10 did.

It's not what 5.56 was designed for. 5.56 as we know it was designed by the Belgians. The rifle they purpose built to fire it didn't have a 20" barrel.

>>64103937
You have no idea what you're talking about lmao

>>64103976
Everything I said is correct. Deflection won't get you anywhere. Jump up to 22", you gain velocity. 20" isn't magical. You just like the aesthetics.

>>64103933
>or there might not be because it's unloaded instead of a dumbass somehow ejecting the mag or it was a shit mag that fell out
>just try to put it back on safe and if you can't then the weapon is obviously not dangerous
what is this fixation on walking around with a weapon off safe under the assumption that it's not loaded lol
who the fuck does mock patrols with hammers dropped on empty chambers lmao

>>64103937
5.56 as we know it was designed by Remington for Eugene Stoner to be used in the AR-15. It's a lengthened .222 Remington. 5.56x45 NATO is exactly the same cartridge with the same dimensions and same pressure, it's just a slightly different chamber spec (which is not a part of the cartridge).

>>64104004
>5.56x45 NATO is exactly the same cartridge
No it's not.
>same pressure
No it's not.

>>64104001
Who the fuck gets bent out of shape about a weapon that cant be put on safe when it's not cocked not being on safe for a staged photoshoot

>>64104066
Well then you can refer back to my point about it being shit training for shit soldiers by shit units then, nigger
There's no set of conditions that justify that rifle being the way it is

>>64103937
>20" is entirely an arbitrary length
No. 19.38365" is arbitrary. 20" is a nice round number that activates my fingers and toes. Being a big guy, 21" is my personal number.

>>64104092
Other than the design and mechanics of the rifle

>>64104163
well in that case maybe they should break the rifle open and carry it over shoulders, barrel facing down since its okay to be retarded

>>64103432
The fucking irony in this post.

>>64103422
You are unattractive and low class and I defy you to provide proof otherwise.

>>64100002
I'll take the A5 buffer and 18" barrel, but I'd go with intermediate for maintain bayonet use, and get Magpul to whip up a MOE handguard and collapsing stock, plus their MOE-K grip.

>>64103497
>>64103515
>>64103580
>>64103745
Who the fuck dry fires to show clear?

>all the retards screeching about the safety
The Canadian Army follows the European style of firearm training, which is to put the weapon on fire and drop the hammer, which is unironically safer than relying on a safety.

>>64104024
>No it's not.
You know you can just go look up the dimensions and avoid looking like a retard, right?
>No it's not.
The quoted pressures are different because of different testing methodologies (NATO EPVAT vs American piezo), but they're actually the same pressure in the chamber. The reason you see people say that 5.56 is unsafe in a .223 chamber is because the .223 chamber is tighter and therefore a load that generates 55,000 PSI piezo in a NATO chamber might generate 70,000 PSI piezo in a Remington chamber. In practice I've never heard of this ever actually causing a problem, it's fuddlore as far as I'm concerned.

>>64104306
>you can just go look up the dimensions and avoid looking like a retard, right?
A cartridge isn't just a brass case. Do you know that?
>The quoted pressures are different because
Because they're different.

>>64099803 (OP)
>roastie with tattoos

>>64104325
Is that a dude?

>>64104257
If you unload an AR and pull the trigger to drop the hammer on an empty chamber, you can't put the safety back on. There's zero irony.

>>64104257
>The fucking irony in this post.
The fucking irony in this post.

>>64104332
>>64104343
No shit. See
>>64104289

>>64099803 (OP)
i don't give a shit about the tats but seriously keeping the fucking ring on? doesn't the canadian army tell all their soldiers to remove any jewelry from their bodies when they are on mission ?

>>64104382
I don't think she's Canadian, she doesn't look brown

>>64099803 (OP)
No its Cucknadian, they are a bunch of fucking faggot jeets.

>>64104092
I am genuinely curious what institution or unit you come from that taught you "the right way".
I couldn't imagine working somewhere that trusted its soldiers so little for something so simple like being responsible for the safety of their personal tools.

>>64104314
>A cartridge isn't just a brass case. Do you know that?
A chamber is not a cartridge.

>Because they're different.
If you measured 5.56 in a NATO chamber and .223 in a Remington chamber with the same methodology, you'd get the same result.

>>64104630
>A chamber is not a cartridge.
Correct. And the powder load is part of the cartridge.

>>64104634
>And the powder load is part of the cartridge.
The powder charge varies with every loading, are you saying that M855 is a different cartridge from M855A1?

>>64104647
Well yes, naturally it is. They are a different 'cartridge'.

>>64103915
Soon

Anyone know what is the cost to build a clone of this? Ballpark?

>>64104679
So in that sense the "5.56 NATO cartridge" doesn't even exist, there's just M855, M855A1, Mk.318, etc. So what are we going to call the shared dimensions that allow all of those various cartridges to interchange in the same weapons?

>>64104546
I was in during the gwot surge, so on field exercises if we could get ammo we were carrying condition 1 and condition 3 if not
cax was almost entirely live fire aside from an initial dry run, no ammo and condition 3 and then it was burning powder until you had a headache from all the goddamn shooting
everything we did was to make it as close as possible to a deployment so guys wouldn't build bad habits or do stupid shit once we were in country
I wasn't even infantry, I was one of many even more expendable pogs with no mission so we were set up for convoys or driving around looking for bombs and ambushes on route clearance

>>64104289

I'm in the Bong military, our manual of arms for the Sharpshooter rifle states you let the bolt go forward and fire off the action to clear the rifle, the safety is left off since you can't put it back on after that. If you want to know the rifle is ready and able to fire you test the fire selector to see if it goes on safe or not.
Firing the action on an early chamber as part of an unload/make safe for the L85 is part of the drill as well.

>>64104289
It's literally part of the unload and make safe drills.

416 is the best variant but realistically they're all so close and all good designs. If you really want to get into it, the best variants are custom civilian ARs minus the lack of a giggle switch.

>>64104702
Tree fiddy

>>64103157
I got to trail the weird brownish greenish c7a3. I think it was rejected.

>>64105480
Why not drop a 3 position FRT into it to remedy the lack of giggle switch

I don't want full auto but I want the third pin for aesthetics unfortunately thats the most illegal part

I'm much more concerned about the fact she's still wearing her ring than any of the bullshit about the selector. It's got a fucking setting and a diamond on it too.
RIP finger, and RIP I mean ripped off.