Thread 64165005

>https://breakingdefense.com/2025/08/snc-unveils-freedom-trainer-latest-entrant-to-navy-competition/
A new contender for the Navy's next trainer appeared.
>promised to be carrier capable unlike the others
>2x Williams International FJ44 engines from civilian jets
>no prototype yet but they promise it will be 40% cheaper than the T-45

Are they looking to personally get a budget from Trump with that name? The FJ44 is a good choice of engine though, it's going to be even more cheaper by economies of scale from being used both by Anduril's Fury CCA in addition to being an off-the-shelf offering.

>yet another shitty render
*yawn*
*fart*
*sneeze*
also nice jl-10 copy

come home white boy, supersonic trainers are the way to go

>>64165335
>white boy
>turkshit
lmao

>>64165259
>jak-130 knockoff
lmao

>>64165259
Chinks can't create anything original.

>>64165382
jl-10>fag-18
also did you know hitler used to drink water?

>>64165391
implessive

>>64165393
indeed, jl-10 doesn't fall off carriers

>>64165396
That's because it can't even take off. It's a papermache prop.

>>64165400
>It's a papermache prop
i'm sorry. are you talking about f-47?

>>64165411
>goalpost moving because he has not arguments
Lol. Unlike Bugland, the US doesn't need to show off barely functioning prototypes. When we'll show the F-47 to the world it will actually be the first 6th gen fighter, unlike the chink props who won't even be 5th gen. (the J-20 and J-35 both have massive RCS and no AWACS capability, making them barely 4th gen)

>>64165382
Are you stupid? they hired Yakolev to develop a new trainer, it's literally a "variant" of the Yak-Aeromacchi.

>>64165463
>US doesn't need to show off barely functioning prototypes
because it doesn't have any
>when we will raise the eyebrow you will yadda yadda yadda
you lost. how about you leave and go back to /r/eddit?

>>64165474
So they copied the Yak-Aeromacchi, big difference. Chink still can't create anything.

>>64165484
>has to ignore photographical evidence
I accept your defeat, WMAF will still go on.

>>64165485
They copied the yak-130 as much as Allison copied the Spey

>>64165490
>>has to ignore photographical evidence
...of a papier maché movie prop...

>>64165484
Completely ignoring the history of the US fielding aircraft for nearly decades before publicly announcing it

Also the NGAD has been flying since 2020

>>64165396
yep, chinkshit never crashes and anyone who says otherwise deserves to get organ harvested

>it's been flying for so long no one has seen it
is this the true power of /k/eddit?

>>64165492
>oi vey
>ignore the fact they are literally the same!

>>64165510
you tourists always stick out like sore thumbs

>>64165511
>ad jude
>deflection
Are you typically that retarded?

>>64165527
No, but you are considering you're trying to argue that the sky isn't blue.

>>64165382
How embarassing

>>64165534
>"Using your engineers to create an aircraft as similar as possible to another design" is the same as "licensing/hiring a different company to acquire the design"
You're mentally disabled.

>>64165005 (OP)
booooooo
we want the hawk

>>64165259
>M346 from temu

>>64165005 (OP)
Will it have an internal bay and 250 kt nooks?

>>64165715
Why would a fighter trainer need that?

>>64165808
train like you fight

>>64165571
*compressor stall*

>>64165005 (OP)
lmao, if Sierra Nevada pulls this off, there is a chance a future Brazilian administration (one that doesn't suck Russian, Iranian and Chinese dick) might actually buy these trainers for some sort of light ground attack role.

>>64165382
Have you ever heard that plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery?

>>64165522
I don't know about you, but to me these appear to be two different aircraft.

>>64165857
>bolsonaro not being a putin's faggot
>difficulty: impossível

>>64165857
Why? Brazil was already eyeing the fa-50

>>64165857
>light ground attack role
>thrust to weight ratio and top speed less than the jak130
Doubt.jpg

>>64165005 (OP)
Looks like that Cessna Scorpion
https://scorpion.txtav.com/

>>64165901
He likes Trump more. Also, the chances of him returning to the Presidency are zero.

>>64165973
Don't underestimate the mental retardation of our Air Force's top brass and that also of our politicians. Everyone above the rank of Major are colossal mongoloids.

>>64165856
it's good training
builds character

>>64165335
hurrjet and durrjet

>>64165968
>https://x.com/CBaptistaJr/status/1519671616615202818
They are thinking about the M-346 to replace the AMXs and A-4s. The FA-50 wasn't even officially offered to them.

>>64165552
>stealing yourself vs paying someone to steal

>>64168478
So pratt & whitney pay MTU and RR to steal?

>>64168563
Did Chink liao ming pay Boeing for their design?

>>64168614
boing? is that a super hornet reference?
Are you that retarded? the Aeromacchi - Yakolev trainer project is unrelated to boingo

>>64168627
Then why does it look the exact same as seen in >>64165382

>>64168630
>exact the same
>trying that hard
The JL-10 is literally a variant of the Aeromacchi-Yak and they even hired Yakolev to get that design. Do you find that impossible to understand?

>>64168630
The JL10 is a derivative of the Yak-130 since they contracted Yakovlev to develop the L-15/JL10. They looks similar for the same reason most stealth fighters will end up looking similar, physics.

>>64165382
You can tell this image really hurts the feeling of the chink because he had to samefagging the same shill point over and over
>>64168672
>>64168920

>>64168945
I'm not a chink, and my post in this thread is >>64168920 which proves they can't innovate, they can only copy be it via IP theft or by having other companies make a jet for you.

>>64168955
First post*

>>64166143

The resemblance is uncanny.

>>64169970
should be added below the mb-346 in >>64168920

>>64168920
Glad to see russians were always russians.

>>64168920
>>64169970
Pastas keep winning.

>>64170220
>>64169970
does copyright exist with military jets? Do the ramens need to pay the pastas if they build a very similar jet?

>>64170238
nobody cares

Why is there so much autism with trainers

>>64170238
They clearly don't give a fuck. The OP trainer is literally a textron scorpion and they ripped it off without a care. Even the concept of using GA engines.

>>64170140
lmao

>>64165335
Is the roachjet even competing for the Navy next trainer?

>>64172857
>possible inspiration
Nigger, they are the same.

>>64168614
Good aerodynamics means that trainer and fighter design often end up looking similar or near identical, such as the case was with the NASA's Space Shuttle and the Russian Buran.

>>64165005 (OP)
These trainers should double as light attack aircraft so that we can finally retire the A-10.

>>64174271
The A-10 replacement is the F16.

>>64174280
The USAF should have bought more F-15 instead of buying F-16 as the hi and procured a light attack/trainer as the low.

>>64174271
That trainer looks to be underpowered even in a clean state due to the 2 civvie engines. Start stapping a few bombs on it and it'll barely be able to take off.

>>64174226
>internal cannon
>boom ar
>slimmer design
The aerodynamic shape is the same, but they seem to be looting to use it for a more serious light fighter/drone hunter role
>>64174285
>trainers as the low
I think the same, paired with a bunch of laser guided rocket pods they could become very useful anti drone platforms at a lower operational cost.

>>64172857
thanks

>>64165022

Not sold on the name. Only thirdies (like India) give "kewl" name to trainer aircraft

The TRVE PATH for white men is to give your trainer a CUTE or silly name like Chipmunk, Ghibli, Tweet, Gnat, Zéphyr, Buckeye. You acknowledge the trainer is a silly little plane used as a flying schoolroom for babby blue pilots and don't attempt any cope about the state of their aircraft industry.

>>64165715
>Will it have an internal bay and 250 kt nooks?
>>64165808
>Why would a fighter trainer need that?
It's in case they wanted to sell it. Sell it to Small Country A, and now they've got a maneuverable, low-observable "fighter/ bomber." See also: L-39, Alpha Jet, Hawk