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Anonymous No.64260558 [Report] >>64260563 >>64260717 >>64261828 >>64262704 >>64262937 >>64263493
F-105 my beloved
Anonymous No.64260563 [Report] >>64260568 >>64260617 >>64260737 >>64261822 >>64262937
>>64260558 (OP)
The "F-16" of the 50-60s.
Anonymous No.64260568 [Report]
>>64260563
How so in your estimation?
Anonymous No.64260617 [Report]
>>64260563
I guess you could say that but really it was just the f100 super saber on steroids.
Anonymous No.64260717 [Report] >>64265254
>>64260558 (OP)
DIRTY DEEDS
Anonymous No.64260737 [Report] >>64260975 >>64261822 >>64264841
>>64260563
ehhh... that'd be the 104
Anonymous No.64260975 [Report] >>64261822 >>64264841
>>64260737
Lol not even close. F104 was wholly unique in its role and era which led to it be totally abandoned by the U.S airforce. While it may have soldered on in other countries for a while after calling it the f16 of its era is pretty insane.
Anonymous No.64261822 [Report] >>64264841
>>64260563
>>64260737
>>64260975
Yes the F-104 (relative lightest of century series) would have been the 'F-16' of that era, he is correct. Was widely exported
That or the F-5 Freedom Fighter

(no, the F-105 was not analogous to F-16 it really doesn't have a follow-on or contemporary equivalent. Its closest relative USAF contemporary was the twin-engine swing wing F-111)
Anonymous No.64261828 [Report] >>64265260
>>64260558 (OP)
>Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x3kA34VoCk
Luv me Thud
Anonymous No.64262697 [Report]
Finally, a Thud thread
Anonymous No.64262700 [Report]
Anonymous No.64262704 [Report]
>>64260558 (OP)
Fuck McNamara. That is all.
Anonymous No.64262707 [Report] >>64262851
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Anonymous No.64262851 [Report]
>>64262707
This is a work safe board, you can’t post that here
Anonymous No.64262900 [Report]
good thread I love the Thud and Nam war stories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCquks_CSEQ
Anonymous No.64262937 [Report]
>>64260558 (OP)
Nigger

>>64260563
Double nigger
Anonymous No.64263493 [Report] >>64263783 >>64264525 >>64264536
>>64260558 (OP)
>slaps you girlfriend ass with SA-2

what you do now, mỹ?
Anonymous No.64263783 [Report]
>>64263493
Didn't Vietnam veterans used to say that an SA-2 was like an entire telephone pole flying right by your plane?
Anonymous No.64264525 [Report]
>>64263493
Anonymous No.64264536 [Report] >>64264544
>>64263493
Hunter-Killer
Anonymous No.64264544 [Report]
>>64264536
Saved.
Anonymous No.64264841 [Report] >>64265140
>>64260737
>>64261822
F-104 was a pure interceptor. F-5 was the F-16 of the era, would've been a reformer's wet dream, low wing loading, cheap, lightweight, except for its middling TWR for the era due to the use of tiny engines.
>>64260975
Not really, it was a dedicated interceptor, it had the same role as the F-102 and F-106, and that of the Sabre Dog before it. Prior to that, circumstances and technological limitations made purebred interceptors uncommon in the USAF, but the P-39 was designed primarily for an interception role, and multiroles killed the pure interceptor, along with many other types, its demise wasn't really unique.
Anonymous No.64265140 [Report] >>64265148 >>64265447
>>64264841
The f104 wasn't designed as a pure interceptor, it was designed as an air superiority fighter by kelly johnson while getting imputs from expert korean war pilots flying f86's, after the lockheed f-80 somewhat embarassed itself, that told him what mattered for fighting migs was climbing quickly, flying fast and having a good gun with high rate of fire - and to quote Francis Gabreski "I'd rather sight with a piece of chewing gum stuck on the windscreen" and told Johnson that radar "was a waste of time".

And that's what the f104a turned out to be, the smallest plane they could design around the engine and m61 gun, with a minimal range finding radar and wingtip mounted infrared missiles - not entirely different from the f-16 design brief, if you think about it. And like the f-16, after the very basic initial design it kept getting fatter with new avionics and ground attack munitions as time went on. It was only designated as an interceptor after the f102 ran into serious development issues forcing the f104 to be adopted as an interim solution, and dropped in the role once the 102 and 106 were up to speed.

The problem with the f104 is that it was ONLY designed with input from expert pilots, and ended up entirely unforgiving for newbie pilots between it's very high landing speeds, strictly limited AoA, and dependence on manually controlled flaps for maneuvering. And before the f102 showed how you could use area rule to compensate for large wings, very high wing loading was the only way to go fast - which is why the f105 also has very large wing loading, despite being designed as a bomber.

The area rule was quantifed so late in the f105's development that they decided it would be easier to implementing it by widening the ends of the fuselage instead of narrowing the wing root.
Anonymous No.64265148 [Report]
>>64265140
Anonymous No.64265254 [Report]
>>64260717
DONE WITH SHEEP
Anonymous No.64265260 [Report]
>>64261828
>Thread theme
>Doesn't pick 'Thunderstruck'
ishygddt
Anonymous No.64265447 [Report]
>>64265140
>Area rule you said? I will use it to make this thicker then.