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Anonymous No.64363757 [Report] >>64363769 >>64363869 >>64363922 >>64363958 >>64364158 >>64364264 >>64364429 >>64364540 >>64365089 >>64365705 >>64365793 >>64366360 >>64367333 >>64367865 >>64368531 >>64374629 >>64374641 >>64375683
Guedelon castle is nearly finished
Anonymous No.64363769 [Report]
>>64363757 (OP)
Huh, pretty neat
Anonymous No.64363772 [Report] >>64368506 >>64369558
>tfw ywn
Anonymous No.64363804 [Report] >>64363895 >>64363966 >>64364299 >>64364586 >>64365185 >>64365672 >>64365824 >>64366121 >>64367322 >>64367354 >>64368506 >>64369823 >>64369979 >>64369986
>guys will see this and just think "hell yeah"
Anonymous No.64363821 [Report] >>64363861 >>64365089 >>64368506 >>64368710 >>64369820 >>64375477
>knights really live in manors like this and see no issue
Anonymous No.64363861 [Report] >>64363868
>>64363821
Wasn't this going to be painted?
Anonymous No.64363868 [Report] >>64364002 >>64377757
>>64363861
Anonymous No.64363869 [Report]
>>64363757 (OP)
Nice.
Anonymous No.64363895 [Report]
>>64363804
Hell yeah!
Anonymous No.64363922 [Report] >>64363941 >>64368364 >>64375592 >>64379641
>>64363757 (OP)
Very cool project but I wonder why there are no shutters for the windows. Glass windows were not commonly used in castles until the Tudor era and what glass was used was mostly hand-me-downs recycled from the Roman era.
Anonymous No.64363941 [Report] >>64364002
>>64363922
they have no glass, I think they use screens made of stretched pig stomach
Anonymous No.64363958 [Report] >>64364477
>>64363757 (OP)
Beautiful. I should get back on KCD. Has anyone played the second one?
Anonymous No.64363966 [Report]
>>64363804
Yeah, unironically. Hell yeah.
Anonymous No.64364002 [Report] >>64369820
>>64363868
damn that's pretty
gives you some real comfy vibes

>>64363941
Found an article which says they use linen that is stiffened with beeswax.
>https://archaeology.org/issues/september-october-2025/features/how-to-build-a-medieval-castle/
Anonymous No.64364158 [Report]
>>64363757 (OP)
Looks comfy, now to build a trebuchet and demand niggas nearby start paying their taxes
Anonymous No.64364264 [Report] >>64364282 >>64364319 >>64364340 >>64364684 >>64364968 >>64365089 >>64365681 >>64365871 >>64366028 >>64366280 >>64366911 >>64368351 >>64368714 >>64373526 >>64374554 >>64375156
>>64363757 (OP)
i think the craziest thing about projects like this is it highlights how europeans dont have jobs and can fuck around for half the year
Anonymous No.64364282 [Report] >>64364306 >>64368141 >>64368351
>>64364264
>it's completely unacceptable you have free time for leisure and pursuing your own interests
>why aren't you desperately slaving away to eke out a meager existence
Anonymous No.64364299 [Report]
>>64363804
I feel seen. I fucking love stone domes, hell yeah.
Anonymous No.64364306 [Report] >>64364482 >>64365113
>>64364282
isnt this their actual full time job as academics? would imagine they have to do something else in the winter but this isnt exactly lazy busywork
Anonymous No.64364319 [Report] >>64365108
>>64364264
shalom!
Anonymous No.64364334 [Report]
Hell yeah!
Anonymous No.64364340 [Report]
>>64364264
There's a lot of people full time employed to build it and handle the other aspects of the business, they get paid by the ticket sales from visitors
Anonymous No.64364429 [Report] >>64375266
>>64363757 (OP)
Excellent, I shall begin siege preparations within the fortnight
Anonymous No.64364477 [Report] >>64365620 >>64367597
>>64363958
they ruined the second one with forced unskippable nigger worship, jew aid missions and made Henry gay, not even joking. those start well into the game so you can play the initial sections fine but i don't recommend giving them money for this.

also the second game has crossbows.
Anonymous No.64364482 [Report]
>>64364306
there are both employed people and volunteers, including students on site
Anonymous No.64364540 [Report]
>>64363757 (OP)
Comfy castle thread
Anonymous No.64364586 [Report]
>>64363804
Wrong. I saw this and thought "fuck yeah".
Anonymous No.64364684 [Report] >>64365108
>>64364264
>humanity exists to create shareholder value
gigacucked
Anonymous No.64364968 [Report]
>>64364264
burger here, kys retard
Anonymous No.64365089 [Report] >>64365103 >>64365141 >>64375686
>>64363757 (OP)
>let's build a medieval castle in a medieval way
>pretty much just because
Supremely based.

>>64363821
Get a roaring fire going and it's going to be comfortable in winter. Stay inside in summer and all that rock is going to keep things nice and cool.

>>64364264
Nigger, it's a bunch of nerds doing this in their off time over a span of decades because they love the idea of it. Building a medieval castle because you think it's cool is 100% as valid as building your own machinegun because you think it's cool.
Anonymous No.64365103 [Report] >>64365113 >>64365121 >>64365917 >>64366022 >>64366084
>>64365089
>in their off time
they just so happen to live within commuting distance of a french castle? get the fuck out of my face with that bullshit
Anonymous No.64365108 [Report] >>64365688 >>64365831 >>64368719 >>64373306
>>64364684>>64364418
>>64364319

just an observation, thanks for the cope and seethe
Anonymous No.64365113 [Report]
>>64364306
The idea of someone calling hard and old fashioned construction labor as "lazy" is sheer comedy.
They're doing EVERYTHING the period way.

>>64364418
This.

>>64365103
lmao
Anonymous No.64365121 [Report]
>>64365103
youropeans have this thing called paid time off. the french on average have 35 days of it and are required by law to take their days or their employer gets fined.
Anonymous No.64365141 [Report]
>>64365089
>pretty much just because
It's called experimental archaeology.
Anonymous No.64365185 [Report]
>>64363804
Hell yeah fuck yeah
Anonymous No.64365570 [Report] >>64365611
Just in time for the collapse of France
Anonymous No.64365611 [Report] >>64365675 >>64369731 >>64377877 >>64385264 >>64385456 >>64385460 >>64386260
>>64365570
>algerian gangs besiege guedelon castle, 2033 AD, colorized
Anonymous No.64365620 [Report] >>64367597
>>64364477
I generally agree and as always get it for free before buying so you know if it's any good but at least gay Henry is avoidable and you can fuck women (or be a medieval incel) like normal.
It's fucked they put it in anyway because while I could stomach jews and a muslim (should have been white though), catering to gay shippers made talking about the game impossible online.
Anonymous No.64365672 [Report]
>>64363804
Hell yeah.
Anonymous No.64365675 [Report]
>>64365611
Checked n' rollin'.
Anonymous No.64365679 [Report] >>64377957
There really should be more medieval castles in general. Maybe they don't need to be built the strictly period accurate way but still.
Anonymous No.64365681 [Report]
>>64364264
An even crazier thing is that someone might think like this. God forbid we live a life even slightly detached from mental poverty.
Anonymous No.64365688 [Report]
>>64365108
Anonymous No.64365705 [Report] >>64365778
>>64363757 (OP)
>meanwhile at the /k/ fortress monastery...
Anonymous No.64365778 [Report] >>64365819
>>64365705
how the fuck did you retards manage to clog the sewage system???
its literally just a hole in the floor that dumps into the moat
Anonymous No.64365793 [Report] >>64365815 >>64365864
>>64363757 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn6jpxCqcFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDNXmPOvZE4

It's an incredibly comfy watch.
Anonymous No.64365815 [Report] >>64365832
>>64365793
Pretty good anon.
When does /k/ storm the castle?
Anonymous No.64365819 [Report]
>>64365778
Brother Anonius... the whole moat's clogged with shit.
Anonymous No.64365824 [Report]
>>64363804
fuck yeah, but also GIWTWM
Anonymous No.64365831 [Report] >>64367747
>>64365108
>i'm not saying anything
>i'm just saying
fuck off kike
Anonymous No.64365832 [Report] >>64365843 >>64365847 >>64365855
>>64365815
>build the castle for years, learning the techniques and materials used by actual craftsmen centuries ago
>construction_complete.wav
>proceed to siege the castle for years, learning the tactics and weaponry used to storm and defend actual fortifications centuries ago
Anonymous No.64365843 [Report]
>>64365832
>subject yourself to a gruelling 6month long siege starvation and all.
>write paper about it
>gets cited 5 time
>next experimental archaeology project is about suicide bombers
Anonymous No.64365847 [Report] >>64366161
>>64365832
We may joke but that legit would be one hell of an attraction and good research material.
Anonymous No.64365855 [Report] >>64365867 >>64366039
>>64365832
>guys we are losing the battle
>okay.... pierre, take 20 people and join their side so it's fair
Anonymous No.64365864 [Report]
>>64365793
based historic farm bros
Anonymous No.64365867 [Report]
>>64365855
>TF2 auto balance memes become real
Anonymous No.64365871 [Report] >>64365894 >>64366084 >>64367729 >>64372811 >>64379156
>>64364264
The reason there's so many grand churches and other buildings like that in Europe is because in medieval times the peasantry only had to labor 6 months of the year and had the rest of it off.
Anonymous No.64365884 [Report] >>64375692
anons
now i wanna build something
Anonymous No.64365894 [Report] >>64365897 >>64366084
>>64365871
not quite,
they had a lot of time off but most of those where religious feat days, you weren't supposed to work on those.
the rest of them was the winter and other periods of time when you couldn't work the farm, but you also couldn't get much else done
the real reason is that every city in Europe had a bit of a feud or rivalry going on with the next city over and big and impressive buildings was a way to one up them. Must of those construction projects also took decades to finish some even centuries in multiple fazes.
they'd be build by a relatively small professional workforce funded by extra taxes, levies and donations from guilds whom once again where trying to one up the other guilds.
much like Guedelon those where generational projects with work starting and stopping when funding ran out
Anonymous No.64365897 [Report]
>>64365894
>some even centuries in multiple fazes
inb4 cologne cathedral
Anonymous No.64365917 [Report] >>64366001 >>64379992
>>64365103
Do you have any idea just how many castles there are in Europe?
Anonymous No.64365969 [Report] >>64365990
>went to malbork a few times in my life
>each trip was multiple hours of walking around
highly recommend it to anyone interested in castles, shit is fucking huge
Anonymous No.64365990 [Report]
>>64365969
>malbork
Marienburg
Anonymous No.64366001 [Report] >>64366006 >>64366118 >>64375499
>>64365917
que?
Anonymous No.64366006 [Report] >>64366013
>>64366001
Its basically swampland iirc.
Anonymous No.64366013 [Report]
>>64366006
plus the hugonot wars and being on the losing side of the hundred years war probably involved some getting torn down
Anonymous No.64366022 [Report] >>64366099 >>64366107 >>64367737 >>64379163 >>64379747
>>64365103
> muh commuting time

The absolute state of mindbroken Americans; unaware that the rest of the world isn’t also a suburban hellscape where one must drive their cuckbox for 30min to get anywhere
Anonymous No.64366028 [Report]
>>64364264
That's right my mutt. You jelly? Aren't you happy working three jobs so you can afford housing not infested by urban youth and support your greatest ally?
Anonymous No.64366039 [Report]
>>64365855
>When Burgundy switches sides in the 100 years war reenactment.
Anonymous No.64366084 [Report] >>64366119
>>64365894
>>64365871

Also building a bigass church for 3 centuries was a jobs program to keep the kinds of skills needed to build military fortifications alive during stretches of peacetime

>>64365103
There's a fuckton of them, you can buy one for about 500k - I lived in one for a year, purchased by some Australians
Anonymous No.64366099 [Report] >>64366119 >>64379747
>>64366022
>a suburban hellscape where one must drive their cuckbox for 30min to get anywhere
americans have half the commute time of europoors though and driving through suburbs is a breeze compared to euro city gridlock with zero parking space
Anonymous No.64366107 [Report] >>64369977 >>64370118
>>64366022
If you're walking to a castle to work on it you have to live right fucking next to it, like sub 5 miles.
Anonymous No.64366118 [Report] >>64373985
>>64366001
landes was an absolutely uninhabitable swampland until the late 1800's when france undertook the biggest terraforming project in history and planted a massive forest to drain the swamp
the area had interesting culture with all the peasants learning to walk on stilts as children because it was the only way to move around but they are still poor to this day
Anonymous No.64366119 [Report] >>64366124
>>64366099
US and EU average commute times are strangely similar at about half an hour
>>64366084
you wouldn't be building your castle when war broke out. by the time it's done you got fucked or it's peace again.
nor would the cities and religious institutions commissioning cathedrals and civic buildings have cared about keeping the skill set alive for castle building.
you are looking at it from a far to modern frame of reference.
Anonymous No.64366121 [Report]
>>64363804
Hell yeah brother
Anonymous No.64366124 [Report] >>64366151 >>64366190 >>64366358 >>64379747
>>64366119
>US and EU average commute times are strangely similar at about half an hour
only italy has half hour commutes in EU
Anonymous No.64366151 [Report] >>64366254 >>64379747
>>64366124
you are using
https://transportgeography.org/contents/chapter8/transportation-urban-form/average-commuting-time/
a) that's a old survey from 2014
b) it's urban only
c) it's from research conducted by a board of trade with presumably the intent to affect policy

I'm using the 2019 eurostat survey for the average EU commute time

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Main_place_of_work_and_commuting_time_-_statistics#:~:text=67.4%20%25%20respectively).-,Commuting%20time%20for%20majority%20of%20European%20workers%20is%20less%20than,their%20main%20place%20of%20work.
Anonymous No.64366161 [Report]
>>64365847
It'd be good. They could also rent it out to movie and documentary productions.
Anonymous No.64366190 [Report]
>>64366124
I've looked trough your "source" on average commute times.
the graphic isn't from it's reported source
the graphic and the data from it's reported source don't match
both the graphic where your sourced it an it's reported source are about urban commutes not national averages.
https://transportgeography.org/contents/chapter8/transportation-urban-form/average-commuting-time/
Anonymous No.64366192 [Report]
/n/ is leaking
Anonymous No.64366254 [Report] >>64366783
>>64366151
>not posting pictures on the image board
Anonymous No.64366280 [Report] >>64366370 >>64366485
>>64364264
Now now anon, their 10am-2pm work schedules are very demanding for 3 days a week
Anonymous No.64366358 [Report]
>>64366124
>tfw an hour commute
>tfw yuro
Anonymous No.64366360 [Report] >>64366370
>>64363757 (OP)
it would've been done years ago if they just used power tools, idiots
Anonymous No.64366370 [Report] >>64366377 >>64366392 >>64366549 >>64366790
>>64366280
Didn't they cut the working week to 4 days in the UK, found it legit caused their workers to be more productive and generate more money, but they scrapped it as the toffs didn't like the idea of the plebs haven't any free time?
>>64366360
In the past I would have considered this bait. These days there are genuinely people this retarded.
Anonymous No.64366377 [Report]
>>64366370
plebs having any free time*
Fuck I turned into a pajeet!
Anonymous No.64366392 [Report] >>64369820
>>64366370
It's probably not even up to code, someone should call an inspector before someone gets hurt
Anonymous No.64366485 [Report] >>64366804 >>64371500
>>64366280
You joke, but in France we can actually force our employer to let us work part time:
For up to 3 years after the birth of your child, you can demand to work less (to a minimum of 16 hours a week), and your employer cannot refuse
You obviously only earn a prorata portion of your previous salary
Anonymous No.64366549 [Report]
>>64366370
>Didn't they cut the working week to 4 days in the UK, found it legit caused their workers to be more productive and generate more money, but they scrapped it as the toffs didn't like the idea of the plebs haven't any free time?
Reducing hours by doing either 4x8 or 5x6 has been proven to almost always increase productivity, especially in office jobs. There are obviously fields where it doesn't do anything (customer service, factory line work).
Anonymous No.64366783 [Report] >>64366890
>>64366254
mea culpa
Anonymous No.64366790 [Report]
>>64366370
Its more that companies work on just in time schedules and absolutely refuse to hire more people as a default so they'd rather you waste 4 hours a day so something can absolutely happen at 4 on a Friday.
Anonymous No.64366804 [Report] >>64366864
>>64366485
as an employer it's a pretty shit arrangement
a) you now need to hire someone for the fraction the employee isn't working and onboard them
b) the employee doesn't have to state how long he's going to take it at the start and they can change how much they work when they renew their part time option
I've had to deal with it once in our French succursale and thank God our industry has a lot of freelances
we stopped hiring people under the succursale after that and hired them directly under the main firm and importantly belgian law
it's one of those things where I can definitively see the benefit for the employee but where the burden and cost for the employer is very disproportionate
Anonymous No.64366864 [Report]
>>64366804
"as an employer"
Its France. They'll get their money back from the government hence their economy is so fucked.
France is just lucky that their African holdings in places like Madagascar hasn't been nationalised by the locals like Burkino Faso recently did.
Anonymous No.64366890 [Report] >>64367115 >>64367253 >>64367495 >>64367715
>>64366783
Malta and Cyprus have Simeone doing more than and hour of commute. How? They are tiny islands. What about Luxembourg, no way someone has the money to live there working outside of It. And the Baltics, does some people commute from one end of the country to the other? In three hours time you cross the whole of the country. If you commute by bike (or foot, or donkey) it really should be accounted separately.
Anonymous No.64366911 [Report]
>>64364264
Pretty sure they are all university fags, like anthropologists and what not
Anonymous No.64366929 [Report]
Sometimes I wish I got a useless degree because spending a semester building a castle seems fun
Anonymous No.64367115 [Report] >>64367510
>>64366890
Malta can get some crazy traffic
Luxembourg, there's a lot of people that commute into Luxembourg from Belgium, France, Germany and even the Netherlands
eurostat probably has the data to split out the commute time by means of transport but this is what I could find with a quick google search
in general their method is very solid
Anonymous No.64367253 [Report]
>>64366890
What if you live on a neighbouring island?
Anonymous No.64367322 [Report]
>>64363804
>>guys will see this and just think "hell yeah"
go back
Anonymous No.64367333 [Report]
>>64363757 (OP)
Somebody call the local antifa cell so we can test its siege resistance.
Anonymous No.64367354 [Report]
>>64363804
H-E DOUBLE L YEAH
Anonymous No.64367495 [Report] >>64367510
>>64366890
Just my 'tism. I would have guessed the data from say Germany and Estonia to look much more different one from the other.
Anonymous No.64367510 [Report]
>>64367495
Meant for >>64367115
Anonymous No.64367597 [Report] >>64367669 >>64368356 >>64369511 >>64372108
>>64364477
>>64365620
Wh*te fragility.
There's one negro with like ten lines of dialogue you meet for one optional quest in the second half of the game that says he likes white women.
They probably did it specifically to piss you reactionary cucks off, seeing as you make your entire personality about being offended about other (fictional) people having sex.
Anonymous No.64367669 [Report] >>64367694
>>64367597
You lost
Anonymous No.64367694 [Report] >>64367746 >>64368356
>>64367669
>butthurt soundbite
Sure looks like he's won.
Anonymous No.64367715 [Report]
>>64366890
It has taken me an hour to drive a mile on the highway. When it comes to cities and their surroundings the actual distance you travel has basically fuck all to do with the time it takes. (Yeah, it puts a lower limit on it, but it isn't like you'll ever be anywhere near that during rush hour.)
Anonymous No.64367729 [Report]
>>64365871
we have those in america too
Anonymous No.64367737 [Report]
>>64366022
look at where the castle is located you stupid nigger
Anonymous No.64367746 [Report] >>64367917
>>64367694
>Y-you're butthurt
You lost
Anonymous No.64367747 [Report] >>64367753
>>64365831
yeah it is an observatIon dickhead. its the only reason this project is able to exist. they trIed it in Arkansas and it didnt work. now enjoy your 35k a year in your welfare state
Anonymous No.64367753 [Report]
>>64367747
>Arkansas
What did they expect from a bunch of illiterate, inbred mud farmers?
Anonymous No.64367865 [Report] >>64370728 >>64379147
>>64363757 (OP)
Always loved these living history things, civil war reenactments, knight larps, rome larp, that guy who does colonial cooking with nutmeg and the like.
If I had a chance to build a castle though, I'd like to rebuild the bannerman castle, if not on the island, somewhere else with the same blueprints.
Anonymous No.64367917 [Report] >>64368356
>>64367746
The game sold like hotcakes and everyone (besides BBC fetishists like you) have nothing but good things to say about it?
Or are is this some partisan Amerislop cope about electing whichever party worships Israel the hardest?
Anonymous No.64368141 [Report] >>64368351
>>64364282
The French unemployment rate is 7.5%.
Anonymous No.64368351 [Report]
>>64364264
>>64364282
>>64368141
In a few years whoever occupies that castle will be ruling half the country.
Anonymous No.64368356 [Report] >>64368492
>>64367597
>>64367694
>>64367917
Post gun with timestamp
Anonymous No.64368364 [Report]
>>64363922
>Romaboo cannot resist slipping a lie in at the end
Anonymous No.64368492 [Report] >>64372896
>>64368356
>I am offended my /pol/tard false controversy is ridiculed
>I demand you prove to me you are a gun owner with photographic evidence
>Even though I would never do the same myself
It's all so tiresome.
Anonymous No.64368506 [Report] >>64369919 >>64385252
>>64363772
>>64363804
>>64363821
i came across this project last year when i was researching my own small stone wall project and, man, i love the stonework. the patience to carve out each individual piece of limestone and any related detail work, with the expertise to piece together and create a satisfyingly practical and beautiful, plumb frame. it's really art.
even the shaped wet-walled sandstone isn't as easy to do as many might expect; you have to know what you're doing. it's not as complex as doing dry-stacked walls, but any amateur approaching making stone walls without some instruction would likely be surprised at how many mistakes they might make in what seems like should be a simple project.
if anyone else is looking into and learning things about stonework/mason related projects, i'd also recommend some things from Mike Haduck's channel, as he discusses various things such as analyzing both ancient and historical stone structures, rock facing/shaping/carving, retaining wall construction/failures/repairs and more. i'd say he was my best resource outside of what i looked into specifically for english/scot style dry-stacked walls.
Anonymous No.64368531 [Report] >>64369820
>>64363757 (OP)
Visited this summer, they still have to craft most of the furniture. Then they will start to build the village.

You can see the quarry at the left, those diggers art tough motherfucker.

The project attracts a lot of apprentice from all over the world to learn from it.
Anonymous No.64368550 [Report] >>64368553 >>64368703 >>64382430
puny castle
Anonymous No.64368553 [Report]
>>64368550
>Built with modern tech
Doesn't count
>In a nature preserve
Disgraceful.
Anonymous No.64368703 [Report] >>64368727 >>64368727 >>64369445
>>64368550
At least Shoigu's abodes look nice and somewhat interesting from the outside.
Why are Eastern European oligarchs such superbly tasteless pieces of shit? If you gotta scam so many kids out of a happy future, the least you could do is make your McMansion of Evil look decent, it's not like you paid a single fucking cent to make it. Infinite budget, no rules and you end up with copy-pasted ugly crap even niggas from the hood would be slightly embarrassed to live in.
Anonymous No.64368710 [Report]
>>64363821
peasants like you will never understand the joys of sharing a roast boar with your fellow lords
Anonymous No.64368714 [Report] >>64369524
>>64364264
it's called a hobby anon, you should look into getting one that isn't watching the latest streaming service slop
Anonymous No.64368719 [Report]
>>64365108
enjoy your remaining 30 years of cuckold life
Anonymous No.64368727 [Report]
>>64368703
>>64368703
thats not so bad. tyson fury's house is okay too except for the brick lawn.
Anonymous No.64369445 [Report] >>64369599
>>64368703
>Why are Eastern European oligarchs such superbly tasteless pieces of shit?
Anonymous No.64369511 [Report]
>>64367597
shalom
Anonymous No.64369524 [Report]
>>64368714
you dont move across the country and dedicate 6 full months a year to a hobby
Anonymous No.64369558 [Report]
>>64363772
You can still buy limestone and mortar, live your dreams anon
Anonymous No.64369599 [Report]
>>64369445
White and gold isn't the worse colorscheme and has a cultural precedence. Granted, I bet someone had to tardwrangle to get the white.
Anonymous No.64369731 [Report]
>>64365611
Rolling and check'em
Anonymous No.64369820 [Report] >>64369823 >>64369879 >>64370350 >>64370431 >>64372903
>>64366392
Bait post aside, something I've wondered about is if the builders at Guédelon are required to follow the exact same safety regulations as if it was any other construction site, or if they get a special exception. Cause looking at their site and articles, in some pics like >>64363821 the builders don't seem to be wearing hard hats (although I noticed the modern work boots) while in other pics like pic related that I got from
>>64364002 they are wearing hard hats and modern harnesses. It looks like they're pretty fateful otherwise to using the exact same equipment that a medieval builder would, so I'd be curious if the researchers there have found something like medieval construction accident logs to see how often injuries would slow down the construction of a castle.

>>64368531
Did they happen to answer questions about PPE at the site while you were there anon?
Anonymous No.64369823 [Report]
>>64369820
Whoops meant to link >>64363804
Anonymous No.64369879 [Report] >>64369886
>>64369820
>if the builders at Guédelon are required to follow the exact same safety regulations as if it was any other construction site
they put safety frames and rigging up
Anonymous No.64369886 [Report] >>64370431
>>64369879
Anonymous No.64369919 [Report]
>>64368506
Wouldn't surprise me if you've seen it already, but one of my favorite comfy videos on YouTube is John Dunsworth talking about cement mixing. RIP.
https://youtu.be/3mcQfP8k51s?si=A8FmR-IhCLcwOQp2
Anonymous No.64369961 [Report] >>64370036
How did medieval castles make holes to support scaffolding, similar to anchor bolts in concrete construction?
Were they included in the design from the beginning, or were loopholes used?
Anonymous No.64369977 [Report] >>64371574
>>64366107
why would they walk, anon?
it's current year
Anonymous No.64369979 [Report]
>>64363804
hell yeah
Anonymous No.64369986 [Report]
>>64363804
HYB
Anonymous No.64370036 [Report]
>>64369961
they left a stone out til the scaffolding wasn't needed
Anonymous No.64370118 [Report] >>64372877
>>64366107
The American fears the bicycle.
Anonymous No.64370350 [Report]
>>64369820
I didn't not ask desu, but considering the french labor law, the power of french administration and the fame of Guedelon, I assume it is well under control.
Anonymous No.64370431 [Report] >>64370450 >>64385147
>>64369820
>I've wondered about is if the builders at Guédelon are required to follow the exact same safety regulations as if it was any other construction site
Yes, they do, they talked about it in some video I've seen years ago.
The most obvious are the safety rails that wouldn't exist in a medieval construction site, as pointed by >>64369886.
They try to hide and blend in the safety stuff but some of it remain visible.

It is common to see workers not wearing their mandatory PPE in France. My waifu manages a workshop, it is a non-stop battle to make workers wear their PPE.
Anonymous No.64370450 [Report] >>64370729
>>64370431
ton femmefu? chanseur
Anonymous No.64370600 [Report] >>64370604 >>64370654 >>64370729 >>64371562
There were probably more castles that needed repair to be bothered with a multi million euro larp.
But who knows, maybe the tourism was worth it
Anonymous No.64370604 [Report]
>>64370600
no need to sound so jelly
Anonymous No.64370654 [Report] >>64370687
>>64370600
>needed repair
that's part of the reason why they are doing this
to rediscover the methods used and train people to do the repairs
they for instance helped with the repairs to the Notre Dame.
the French have great set of programs to train historical restorators like the specialisation at Cerfav for stained glass windows . whom will probably do the stained glass for the chapel.
getting hands on experience with heat breaking glass and setting it. painting with period pigments and firing the glass without the comfort of a gas oven.
setting it into lead cane with period mastique.
all useful to better understand the glass you are working with during restorations or simply recaning the glass
Anonymous No.64370687 [Report]
>>64370654
This is really the answer. They even did the same thing with some old vehicles lately where the only way they could figure out how the engines worked was essentially to build them from scratch.
Anonymous No.64370728 [Report]
>>64367865
>knight larps
You might already be aware of him, but just in case (or for anyone else who isn't) I'll take the opportunity to shill Jason Kingsley/Modern History TV
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMjlDOf0UO9wSijFqPE9wBw
>Rebellion Developments co-founder/CEO uses his Sniper Elite money to indulge in medieval LARPing
>content is just him in period clothing, typically using some replica piece of material culture, while talking about its historical usage in sources and describing the experience of using it
>core focus is horses/weapons/armor, but also covers plenty of more mundane things like clothes and tools, or just talking about life and society in general
>has resources for good production quality yet keeps a casual tone
>clearly passionate, yet not a tryhard or smug redditor about it
His most recent video is fourteen minutes of him just using and talking about a replica wheelbarrow he commissioned based on one from a book of hours illustration, and if that doesn't sell you on him then I don't know what will
Anonymous No.64370729 [Report] >>64371562
>>64370600
>There were probably more castles that needed repair to be bothered with a multi million euro larp.
True but building and restoring are different things. Often with restorations, the original techniques are only used on visible and critical parts and the rest is made in a modern way to save time, money and ease maintenance.
To make matters worse, castles have a long history so you have to make an impossible choice of what state you want it back to. The original 1086 one for which you don't have any plan or good evidence and would have to raze the partially ruined south tower that was added in 1245? Close up the openings made during renaissance when it no longer had a military use?

If you have the courage, look up the debate over Notre-Dame de Paris' restoration and specifically whether to rebuild the 19th century spire or not.

>>64370450
>ton femmefu? chanseur
Very beaucoup de chance indeed.
Anonymous No.64371500 [Report]
>>64366485
Man, I could live with 3/4 of my salary like a medieval lord feasting on butter alone if I wanted. But I can't get fewer hours due to union shits cucking me.
Anonymous No.64371544 [Report] >>64371576
>building an authentic medieval castle just for the sake of building one
Cultured and based.
Anonymous No.64371562 [Report]
>>64370600
Building a complete castle like this is going to make an excellent frame of reference for doing restorative work on existing castles, as said.

>>64370729
Stuff like the long history is relevant too, yeah, and it's cool to have something strictly period style with this castle. If you look at something like Schloss Itter, it's one of countless which had modern rennovations done to add things like electricity and plumbing during times like WW2, but Guedelon has none of that, it's strictly of its targeted time period.
Anonymous No.64371574 [Report]
>>64369977
ok so they are commuting then what ts your fucking point mr brainless
Anonymous No.64371576 [Report]
>>64371544
and useful, particularly in Europe with lots of period-relevant historic buildings
carpenters who got their skills working on Guedelon assisted in the reconstruction of the Notre Dame after the fire, making La Forêt period-accurate in a (relatively) timely manner
Anonymous No.64372108 [Report]
>>64367597
>Wh*te
Thanks for announcing at the start your post is garbage. Didn't read the rest, but have a (You) to return the courtesy.
Anonymous No.64372811 [Report]
>>64365871
There's a bit of a difference in understanding what a "day off" means because there's no commuter culture, or more specifically, commuting to the same damn spot every single day, among peasants.
Anonymous No.64372877 [Report] >>64372927 >>64373951
>>64370118
>Bikie
>Nigger
>Euro
This is the gun owner board, faggot.
Anonymous No.64372896 [Report] >>64372927 >>64373329
>>64368492
>No gun
>Doesn't know the accused always goes first, to make it easier to filter out fags
That's what I thought, the best filter on this site remains 99% effective.
Anonymous No.64372903 [Report] >>64375700
>>64369820
Look closer. The builders are wearing hardhats with covers on them to blend in.
Anonymous No.64372927 [Report]
>>64372877
>>64372896
Uh oh Fattie melty
Anonymous No.64373306 [Report] >>64373317
>>64365108
Anonymous No.64373317 [Report] >>64373336
>>64373306
whats idiotic or untrue about my statement
Anonymous No.64373329 [Report]
>>64372896
So post your guns.
Anonymous No.64373336 [Report]
>>64373317
Shhhh
Anonymous No.64373526 [Report] >>64373570
>>64364264
The replies are seething but this is basiclly true. Europe is essentially a giant nursing home that's slowly going bankrupt. Nothing gets done and no one cares. Anyone in Europe who wants to do stuff has to leave and do it somewhere else. Shit like this is the civilization equivalent of retirees playing cribage while they wait to die.
Anonymous No.64373570 [Report] >>64379512
>>64373526
Again shhhh. You would make everyone happy.
Anonymous No.64373951 [Report]
>>64372877
The rule is that in order for your to request a pic of anon's guns you must first provide a pic of your own.
Anonymous No.64373985 [Report] >>64380169
>>64366118
>swampland until the late 1800's when france undertook the biggest terraforming project in history
See how humble the Fr*nchman is.

You and your cute little former-swamp. Malaria was endemic to North America until we decided to make it not. I couldn't even point to a single swamp that we drained - it was thousands of them in every state. Also lots and lots of pesticides.
Anonymous No.64374554 [Report]
>>64364264
Kys jankie you will never get to enjoy free time
Anonymous No.64374629 [Report] >>64374977
>>64363757 (OP)
Makes me want to play Plague Tale and expedition 33 again
Anonymous No.64374641 [Report] >>64374727
>>64363757 (OP)
Getting ready for when the Muslims take the country.
Anonymous No.64374727 [Report]
>>64374641
Already done.
>.t french
Anonymous No.64374977 [Report]
>>64374629
Why not Stronghold? They are playing it in real life?
Anonymous No.64375156 [Report] >>64375241 >>64375247
>>64364264
It's called having freedom. You should try it sometime.
Anonymous No.64375241 [Report] >>64375247
>>64375156
But what of the freedom of his boss to exploit him? Do you ever think if that?
Anonymous No.64375247 [Report]
>>64375156
>>64375241
freedom starts at 71 or wallmart won't have enough greeters
Anonymous No.64375266 [Report]
>>64364429
Fortnite?
Anonymous No.64375267 [Report]
Why do people think Europeans don't work? They do, they just seem unemployed because they can't afford anything.
Anonymous No.64375477 [Report]
>>64363821
>and see no issue
if they want issue they need a woman, and women will want to decorate the castle
Anonymous No.64375499 [Report] >>64375566 >>64375685
>>64366001
They said it was daft to build a castle in the swamp
Anonymous No.64375566 [Report] >>64375685
>>64375499
Why? Would it sink into the swamp? Or maybe catch on fire, fall over, and sink into the swamp?
Anonymous No.64375592 [Report]
>>64363922
>Glass windows were not commonly used in castles until the Tudor era and what glass was used was mostly hand-me-downs recycled from the Roman era.
Retarded nigger.
Anonymous No.64375683 [Report]
>>64363757 (OP)
They've been working on this since what the mid 90's?
Anonymous No.64375685 [Report]
>>64375499
>>64375566
>
Anonymous No.64375686 [Report] >>64377757
>>64365089
All that rock is going to wick the heat away in winter too. They built wooden walled rooms in castles to keep the heat in
Anonymous No.64375692 [Report]
>>64365884
Buy the land next door and build a giant trebuchet out of timber and siege it for fun.
Anonymous No.64375700 [Report]
>>64372903
That's honestly quite clever, I wonder if more people would wear bicycle helmets if they had nice looking covers on top.
Anonymous No.64377757 [Report]
>>64375686
How much does plaster and paint help for that? Like in: >>64363868
It looks cozy, reminds me of the interior work of the old medieval church in my village.
Anonymous No.64377877 [Report]
>>64365611
roll
Anonymous No.64377957 [Report] >>64379383
>>64365679
I think that it's fair that you can typically acquire ownership of medieval castles in Europe for dirt cheap, but you're then legally obligated to spend money on maintaining the castle and keeping it in check, you don't get to just demolish it and build something else there.

These things are treasures from older times and part of a country's cultural heritage, and there's not that many of them, so I think they should be kept around and taken care of.
Anonymous No.64379147 [Report]
>>64367865
The Bannerman castle would be cool to see again, and complete with crates and crates full of guns.
Anonymous No.64379156 [Report] >>64379184
>>64365871
This is such a massive fucking pseud meme.
>Durr, medieval peasants could just slack and chill half they year, they had it better than us!
NO, motherfucker, they had 6 months of obligations to their lords and kings, but they were still managing farmlands and rearing livestock, you don't get to NOT take care of that shit because the king isn't currently calling for your labor.
You still need to work your ass off on maintaining your farm and keeping it up and running, you didn't get to slack off much because you had to make damn sure that you and your family wouldn't starve. You also needed to be sure that you'd be able to meet food obligations for your lord in the future.

Yeah, life wasn't just illiteracy, misery, dirt, and death, like modern media has portrayed medieval peasantry, there were good times there too, but don't fall for such insipid overcorrections trying to revision it as some sort of lost paradise, the last 200 years have been objectively the best times there's ever been to live.
Anonymous No.64379163 [Report] >>64379184 >>64379294
>>64366022
Anti-car people should be dragged behind one.
Anonymous No.64379184 [Report]
>>64379156
>NO, motherfucker, they had 6 months of obligations to their lords and kings
I've never come across a feudal oath or record with more than about 3 months of service. more often than not the time isn't specified but the task(s) that one is bound to by the oath are and those aren't task(s) that take up that amount of work.
serfs where extremely litigious if they thought they where being abused and there's a lot of records about obligations.
I do agree that modern standards of living are the best we've ever had.
but serfs where taxed a lot less then we are. they also didn't have all the services a modern state provides with those taxes. the services that make modern life possible.
>>64379163
living in a not completely car dependant area is great.
I wouldn't want to have to bike to get every where. but having to take my car to go and do everything would be a pain in the butt too.
Anonymous No.64379294 [Report]
>>64379163
I have 2 cars and a motorbike but I'm just happy I don't have to drive everyday and just walk or bike less than 10m for my daily life.
I live within walking distance of the ruins of a 15th century castle/fortified manor. Biking for 1h could get me to about a dozen different manors, castle and centuries old coastal forts.
Feels good, man.
Anonymous No.64379383 [Report] >>64379452
>>64377957
>You can have it for $1
>it needs $6mm in repairs that will take 18-25 years to complete
>specialists in old stonework just don't exist in any meaningful capacity
>the mortar takes a REALLY long time to harden
>castles are cold, drafty, and uncomfortable, so even if it is fixed up, you're not going to want to live in it.
Anonymous No.64379452 [Report] >>64379723
>>64379383
if the goverment gives me money to maintain it i'll gladly quit my job and go live in a castle right now, 100%
Anonymous No.64379512 [Report]
>>64373570
Cope all you want
Anonymous No.64379641 [Report] >>64379683 >>64380440
>>64363922
>and what glass was used was mostly hand-me-downs recycled from the Roman era.
Really? How would something like that work?
Anonymous No.64379683 [Report]
>>64379641
annon doesn't know what he is going on about
stained glass started spreading in Europe as early as the 8th century and there is evidence of pretty much continues production across several sites
Anonymous No.64379723 [Report]
>>64379452
If the government had that money to spare they would just maintain it themselves
Anonymous No.64379747 [Report] >>64379779 >>64380422 >>64380507
>>64366022
>>64366099
>>64366151
ancientfag here, everyone likes to trash on Americans for "having" to drive to get anywhere but are unaware that their commute times are over x3 the time taken per km commuted >>64366124 posted an old chart from 2014 but this is still a true standing for urban centers. There are only 5 cities in the US that have a usable public transportation center and even then it's a minority of people working in those cities that use it, thus it's far less crowded even during "rush" hour to use US based public transport than say, Germany or Japan (two best public transport countries I've commuted in) Japan has the cleanest and most efficient trains but my fuck being a foreigner on a morning train in Tokyo is so disturbing because you are intentionally and unintentionally groped on every part of your body. I thought the train rape mangas were a joke for so many years and then I worked in Japan for 6 months and lost my mind that grannies and random dudes were literally grabbing my ass on the train (I look like Tony Soprano so why). Germany was stupid because the trains are all great except unline Japan you are not allowed to pile into cars until the door wont shut, but not because you'll be stabbed by Jamal like in the US, but because everyone on there will give you silent dirty looks and start murmuring about you in German. They're gay enough to report you to police for holding a train door open past the beeping noise.
>tl:dr faggots without cars cope and seethe wishing they could have the US commute
>except for Italians because driving in Italian cities is a pain and why drive when you can just walk across the street to the cafe to work so you can go home at 11am to take a siesta until 2pm
Anonymous No.64379779 [Report] >>64379948
>>64379747
I'd just like to point out that the graph doesn't in fact use the data listed in the study it reports as it's source.
and that you can't use data from a city and apply it to a whole country
but seeing you post I don't think you differentiate between and anecdote and data anyways
Anonymous No.64379948 [Report] >>64380029
>>64379779
You're right the the graph doesn't use the data in the study because that graph is supplemental information and not a report on findings? And to your second point, most of Europe lives in cities. Most of Japan lives in cities. My "anecdotal" evidence is just that, but it doesn't make my lived experiences wrong nor my assertions based off of them. People who walk/take public transportation to/from work have longer commute times on average versus the average American who drives to work. All of my experiences overseas showed me that even a 4 mile commute takes longer to walk/take public transpo to than driving a 30 mile route in the US. Germany was cool in the regard I could bike about anywhere without being a nuisance and the trains were accommodating to bring folding bikes on, the opposite is true in Tokyo where even folding bikes are heavily frowned on for bringing it into the cramped traincar. Only in Kyoto/Osaka did people not care about that, and biking on Japanese streets is far more crowded and confusing than going around Cologne.
Anonymous No.64379992 [Report] >>64380010 >>64380108
>>64365917
Holy shit didn't know Belgium was so stacked.
Anonymous No.64380010 [Report]
>>64379992
Belgium exists as a country for the Franks and Saxons to settle their differences.
Anonymous No.64380029 [Report]
>>64379948
>You're right the the graph doesn't use the data in the study because that graph is supplemental information and not a report on findings?
no because on the site where the graph is from it proports it's derived from data in the study
there is no data backing up the graph, at all
I can go make a graph that in US you spend 8 hours commuting and it would have as much data as said graph.
>most of Europe lives in cities
80% of americans live in urban areas and 75% of the EU and only 40% in cities proper
besides that most those living in cities don't live in Paris, Berlin and London.
most frogs don't live in Paris, most krauts don't live in Berlin and most Pakis don't live in London.
to take the data from the one city with the worst commute and then take it and extrapolate it to the whole country is just retarded you have to assume that there's bad intention behind it.

all of that aside.
the original issue was a comparison of commute times on average for countries, not major urban centres.
using data for major urban centres when their is data for the country as a whole is once again so retarded you have to assume malign intent
Anonymous No.64380108 [Report] >>64380448
>>64379992
The map is made automatically and fucked up on nomenclature.
Belgium has a lot of castles but absolutely nowhere near as many. They likely mass-searched for all "chateau" which in Belgium is castle, palace, mansion, town hall, residence,...
Anonymous No.64380169 [Report]
>>64373985
Okay, so thousands of tiny projects. Great, congratulations.
Anonymous No.64380422 [Report]
>>64379747
>(I look like Tony Soprano so why)
They're just try'na get themselves some of that gabagool.
Anonymous No.64380440 [Report]
>>64379641
He's completely bullshitting, it sounds like some nonsense made up by some Roman statue avatar faggot on Xitter.
Anonymous No.64380448 [Report] >>64380553
>>64380108
Is there a better map showing the amount of ACTUAL castles dotted over Europe? Maybe also differentiating (yet still showing) those smaller fortified manors which people don't tend to think of as castles.
Anonymous No.64380507 [Report]
>>64379747
>(I look like Tony Soprano so why)
ugly bastard EROTIC!!!
Anonymous No.64380553 [Report] >>64380694
>>64380448
Most likely no. It's just a shit-ton of work.
You're much more likely to only get a patchwork from individual national projects documenting them with names and details.
Like this one for Spain:
https://www.elconfidencial.com/cultura/2021-10-13/castillos-conservacion-arquitectura-especial-datos_3303733/
Anonymous No.64380694 [Report]
>>64380553
Here's one covering Germany, France, Austria, Belgium and Switzerland with a few in Italy, Denmark and Poland.
https://www.alleburgen.de/burgenatlas.php
Anonymous No.64382430 [Report]
>>64368550
Fake and gay. Only nation of sodomites would build a monument of faggotry like this.
Anonymous No.64385147 [Report] >>64385207
>>64370431
the framework is straight out of medieval depictions of construction, and the workers wore padded covering similar to what men-at-arms wore under their maille and helmets
they did in fact have safety
Anonymous No.64385207 [Report]
>>64385147
>the workers wore padded covering similar to what men-at-arms wore under their maille and helmets
So... medieval vatniki?
Anonymous No.64385217 [Report]
>tfw no castle crafting waifu
Anonymous No.64385252 [Report]
>>64368506
>copestones
Anonymous No.64385264 [Report]
>>64365611
Roll
Anonymous No.64385456 [Report]
>>64365611
Roll
Anonymous No.64385460 [Report]
>>64365611
Rolling
Anonymous No.64386260 [Report]
>>64365611
My money is on the Rooftop Korean