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Anonymous No.64392209 [Report] >>64393125
/msg/ - Military Surplus General
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Anonymous No.64393125 [Report] >>64393131
>>64392209 (OP)
canucks can own revolvers?!
Anonymous No.64393131 [Report]
>>64393125
Post passport homo.
Anonymous No.64393316 [Report] >>64393789 >>64393884 >>64393914 >>64393935 >>64398904 >>64399073 >>64399080 >>64399103 >>64413460
I always see talk of keeping shitty old guns as a "wall hanger" but have any of you actually done that? Did you take safety into consideration when you did it? (take the bolt/firing pin out, trigger lock, cable lock it in place, etc....)
Or do you just let it hang?
Anonymous No.64393789 [Report] >>64400555
>>64393316
I highly doubt someone can identify what caliber of “shitty old guns” which in of itself a safety feature. The only reason I could see taking out hardware will be that it will look good in court if they used the shitty RTI wall hanger as evidence you are unwell and willing to hurt someone.
Anonymous No.64393833 [Report]
Anonymous No.64393884 [Report] >>64400555
>>64393316
Not really? keeping an unloaded gun on the wall as a wall hanger doesnt make it more unsafe. unless you are trying to deliberately make it inoperable for some reason, there isnt a purpose to do so to a wall hanger.
Anonymous No.64393914 [Report] >>64394302 >>64400555
>>64393316
Are you European or something? Guns are inert until someone loads it and shoots something with it
Anonymous No.64393935 [Report] >>64443321
>>64393316
This is a very Canadian sounding post.
Is your fear here that the wall hanger could be stolen and then used in a crime? grabbed off the wall and loaded/fired by a house guest?
Anonymous No.64394302 [Report] >>64394308
>>64393914
You can't even keep a deact outside a gun safe in most of Gayrape these days
But I'm striking back and recommending that everyone desiring a deact get a real gun, I'm even helping them jump the hoops
The government can go fuck themselves
Anonymous No.64394308 [Report]
>>64394302
God Speed anon, the Lord's work
Anonymous No.64394346 [Report] >>64394554 >>64395590
Who else enjoys analyzing and admiring the variety of bolts they have? I don't have all my guns at my house yet, so not too many.
I find the bolts alone almost as interesting as the guns themselves
Anonymous No.64394358 [Report] >>64394487 >>64394554 >>64399619
Was missing one
Anonymous No.64394487 [Report] >>64394554 >>64394594
>>64394358
>But I'm striking back and recommending that everyone desiring a deact get a real gun, I'm even helping them jump the hoops

mosin, pre 98 mauser bolt (1895?), k31, 98 mauser bolt, Mannlicher, carcano bolt (?), and whats that one on the bottom right?
Anonymous No.64394554 [Report] >>64394594
>>64394346
>>64394358
Sometimes.

>>64394487
I see Mosin M1891, Mauser M1893, Swiss K1931, Mauser M1898, Gewehr M1888, Mannlicher M1895 and I think Kropatschek M1886.
Anonymous No.64394594 [Report]
>>64394487
See
>>64394554
They're just fun
Anonymous No.64394602 [Report] >>64394619 >>64394625
Try this one.
Anonymous No.64394619 [Report]
>>64394602
Bolt face for a second looked like a Ross but the rest of it I have no clue
Anonymous No.64394625 [Report] >>64394651
>>64394602
Is that a fucking Boys bolt?
Anonymous No.64394651 [Report] >>64394659 >>64394662
>>64394625
Yep
Anonymous No.64394659 [Report] >>64394677
>>64394651
Noice. Do you have the rest of that monster?
Anonymous No.64394662 [Report] >>64394677
>>64394651
Also, PTRD?
Anonymous No.64394677 [Report] >>64394695
>>64394662
Yes
>>64394659
And yes. Barrel is currently needing replacement so it's a .22 LR.
Anonymous No.64394695 [Report]
>>64394677
Bad ass man, very cool
Anonymous No.64394725 [Report]
I did something even the Turks couldn't do: I made a Mauser 98 inoperable.
BUY SNAP CAPS
Anonymous No.64395155 [Report] >>64396974 >>64398496
For the anon, who was cleaning his lee Enfield with murphy's oil cleaner, how many times did you ended up putting it on the wood? After drying, I still have tiny left over dirt inside the section where the receiver goes, not sure if it's worth going back and hitting with cleaner again to get it out.
Anonymous No.64395590 [Report]
>>64394346
I sure like them bolts
Anonymous No.64396531 [Report] >>64396538
Oh look, now we have TWO fucking threads for the same exact thing
Anonymous No.64396538 [Report] >>64396545 >>64396769
>>64396531
looks like someone didnt check the catalogue. the question now though is who deletes theres
Anonymous No.64396545 [Report]
>>64396538
There's fewer celebrities in this one, so probably this one.
Anonymous No.64396769 [Report]
>>64396538
Yea, that's my fault, people started using it though for some reason. We'll see what the Jannys decide on.
Anonymous No.64396974 [Report] >>64398843
>>64395155
If it's just dirt inside the stock, for example, dirt that isn't oil in the wood and isn't regular dirt that's raised off the surface of the wood that would interfere with the fitment of the stock, I wouldn't bother going too nuts. Acid Brushes from Harbor Freight may help you get into the odd areas as well as toothbrushes from the now fucking DollarFIFTY Tree. Dawn Powerwash (pic) helps get the grease out that the Murphy's won't touch for some odd reason. Acetone can also help BUT I only recommend that if you have no wood finish (or paint) left, the dirt is probably oily, and do not care about what is currently there. Soak a paper towel with it, press it over the stock, and wait maybe 15-30 seconds. Keeping the stock from drying out while you rub the dirt out is difficult since it dries so quick but it comes out like crazy. Should be obvious but don't use plastic anything with acetone as a good 80% of it is going to melt lol.

Honestly at this point I've probably lost count how many times I've done it. The handguard went quick because it was so thin but still needs some work. The forestock is still half done. The buttstock is barely started and I still have to figure out what to do about the rusty reinforcing ferrule the stock screw butts up against. If your gun is oil soaked, it's going to need a lot more cleaning than if it's just really filthy. I wouldn't be surprised if the handguard is in the 5-7 times range. The forestock will probably be in the 6-10 range, and the stock in the 8-15 range. I think the thickness soaks up a lot more dirt, especially the oil that I think was from a soak/multiple applications of used motor oil. Sure smells like it.
Anonymous No.64398496 [Report] >>64398843
>>64395155
Oh yeah, not to mention IIRC I actually took the handguard and soaked it in Acetone in a Ball jar using foil to somewhat seal the top and prevent evaporation, flipping every couple hours. More dirt comes out than you'd ever think. I don't think I'll go until it's all out but I'll get close. The stock and forestock will require a much bigger container and THAT will be a mess. I'll buy a gallon and have to figure out WTF I'm going to do to be able to use it most efficiently. Probably find some drain spout section, cut it in half, and bend the ends up and foil the whole thing. Something cheap. The stock...oh god. I really wish there was a way to clean the acetone that didn't require, like, distillation or something; the equipment and time (and explosion hazard) for that is just not worth it. Coffee filters do not work, it's dissolved into the liquid itself. (ps: checked)
Anonymous No.64398546 [Report]
do you store your bolts in the gun or separately nearby?
Anonymous No.64398843 [Report] >>64399176
>>64398496
>>64396974
Thanks for taking time to answer, I ended up buying power-wash just to use less than tablespoon worth of it just to removed tiny build up of dirt in the fore-end, I'm surprised murphy's oil cleaner did a good job, luckily RTI didn't send me something that warranted acetone.
I ended up using BLO on the upper hand guard in the meantime and came out nicer than I expected, what finish are you going to be using?
Anonymous No.64398904 [Report]
>>64393316
Yes, I take safety into consideration by keeping them in functioning condition and fully loaded. A safe gun is one you can trust to always go off when you pull the trigger, and gun safety means not randomly pulling the trigger on guns because you know for a fact that they're always loaded.
Anonymous No.64399073 [Report]
>>64393316
Wall hangar in USA contexts generally conotates a weapon being non-functional and/or unfixable or not worth fixing or shooting often to the point of being unsafe to shoot i.e. blowing up in your hands
Anonymous No.64399080 [Report]
>>64393316
My deadbolt is the device keeping intruders safe.
Anonymous No.64399103 [Report] >>64404795
>>64393316
>scared of wallhangers
The Euro fears the toilet bazooka
Anonymous No.64399176 [Report] >>64399328 >>64399469
>>64398843
Normally I'd recommend BLO considering it's what was used originally. I on the other hand may actually end up using Rustoleum clear coat (Satin). I know, it sounds crazy but that stuff really makes figured wood shimmer the easiest and it doesn't touch the color of the wood, for better or worse. I found a piece of ply I had with some nice curl in it and without so much as cleaning it, a coat of that stuff got it shimmering like I've never been able to do with any other wood finish. Shellac could do the same and look nicer but I've yet to try it for a couple reasons. Absolutely heretical to use Rustoleum clear on surplus, I know, but I think I can make it shimmer the best out of any of my options. Plus it's super easy to touch up and remove. I have some sections that look like no 19 (forestock) and no 20 (upper front HG) on this site, although not as brown from age, UV exposure, and wear. With alcohol to preview the color I get a nice "pure" brown (despite the grey look when dry) which is going to look great. https://www.chatometry.com/home-page/walnut-european/

I tend to try and put guns back to as original as possible but at the same time I'm having some fun experimenting and learning with this rifle, mostly non-destructively/reversibly with one exception: It's getting bored to .410 and I may one day attempt to hunt with it at least once. IIRC that Rustoleum clear coat touches up very nicely which is a bonus when it comes to its properties. If nothing else it will be a very fun gun for clays.
Anonymous No.64399328 [Report]
>>64399176
I'm very curious what the final product will look like, keep /msg/ updated, as soon as I finish with the wood on mine I have to get started on the metal with the good ole ballistol and steel wool to work. Shellac looks weird/bubba on anything except combloc stuff for example pic.
Anonymous No.64399469 [Report] >>64401460
>>64399176
BLO was not used.
Each soldier was issued something like 2 oz. yearly of regular linseed oil for the wood. BLO dries too fast and ends up shiny, the issued oil dried quite slow and left a non-reflective finish. Any soldier caught with a shiny stock from the wrong oil or boning was made to strip it and redo it with the proper oil.
Anonymous No.64399619 [Report] >>64413443
>>64394358
Thankfully you managed to get that last one in there. I would have been rather dismayed had I not seen the whole family.
Anonymous No.64400555 [Report] >>64402694 >>64413460
>>64393789
>>64393884
>>64393914
these are low iq zoomtards btw. wallhangers are declared as such because they are unsafe to fire hence why they get relegated to only good for decoration. taking out a firing pin or bolt is a smart and prudent action to make sure some retard doesnt do damage to himself if something happens to you and when your guns get passed on or sold nobody else knew that gun was fucked and ready to blow
Anonymous No.64401225 [Report] >>64401443
is it normal for m1 carbine to fail to lock the round in the chamber if you ride the charging handle?
Anonymous No.64401443 [Report]
>>64401225
Pretty much every rifle that isn't straight blowback will do that, don't do it. I can with my 10/22 to be quiet when hunting but I still often pull back a bit and let it snap shut a quarter inch once or twice after riding most of the way forward just to be sure it fully shuts. I don't do that with my AR as having a rotating bolt head for locking, it doesn't tend to like it and will get damn close to closed but not all the way, so I just lock it back, throw a mag in, and press the bolt release letting it slam shut. In general it's a bad habit to ride the charging handle forward with few exceptions.
Anonymous No.64401460 [Report]
>>64399469
Huh, I thought originally (from the factory) rifles were finished by dipping in a vat of warm/hot linseed oil (not BLO) which came out looking similar to BLO once cured. Still not BLO but if anon is refinishing, can he even replicate the original linseed finish without a vat like some people say they refinish surplus stocks with?
Anonymous No.64402670 [Report] >>64402821
Do you guys mostly collect rifles or pistols?
Anonymous No.64402694 [Report] >>64404406 >>64404420 >>64413460
>>64400555
trips of truth. thank you.
I have guns that are super shitty and won't be taking to the range, but are still technically perfectly functionable. I probably should have clarified, but my main concern would be thief and retard-proofing, so I didn't know if there was a common way to lock them in place.
Anonymous No.64402821 [Report]
>>64402670
yes
Anonymous No.64402867 [Report] >>64402897
Brought home a m98/48 today
Anonymous No.64402897 [Report] >>64402925
>>64402867
Very nice anon? How much did you pay?
Anonymous No.64402925 [Report] >>64402940 >>64404777
>>64402897
$475 would have been cheaper but got raped on shipping
Anonymous No.64402940 [Report]
>>64402925
Very nice
I got one just the other day for $450 at a gunshow
Anonymous No.64404406 [Report] >>64404407 >>64413460
>>64402694
you cant thief it if its on display on a wall. if your concern is drunk friends then i would remove parts to make it inoperable or just get a fucking replica and stop being a retard hanging guns on your wall and letting retards play wtih them
Anonymous No.64404407 [Report] >>64413460
>>64404406
thief proof*

if your concern is theft then dont diplay that shit on a wall
Anonymous No.64404420 [Report] >>64413460
>>64402694
>mounting securely
I'm not sure how you could really do that. Screwing a mount plate into the studs and then making some kind of chastity belt holding your rifle to the plate? You would be better off making a gun room and hoping any burglars (black or brown obviously) are too retarded to get past a locked interior door.
Anonymous No.64404777 [Report] >>64407192
>>64402925
>bro didnt calculate shipping and buyers premium before he bid
That's on you
Anonymous No.64404795 [Report] >>64408027
>>64399103
I'm Euro and my friend's dad used to have a toilet shotgun
But that was 20 years ago, nobody cared about gun safes and such back then
Anonymous No.64407192 [Report]
>>64404777
I have bought from over a dozen auction houses in the past and am fully aware of auction fees and shipping, But this is the first time I have seen a $60 charge on top of shipping to have it shipped from an ffl outside of the auction house. No where in the terms was that mentioned.
Anonymous No.64408027 [Report]
>>64404795
“Back in my day, we used a chastity belt to carry our gun's sonny”
Anonymous No.64410524 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.64410580 [Report] >>64411257 >>64411864
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64411257 [Report]
>>64410580
based, we should always have 2 threads
Anonymous No.64411864 [Report]
>>64410580
all of /k/ was promised to /msg/ by god 3000 years ago
Anonymous No.64411886 [Report] >>64412318 >>64412560 >>64412596 >>64414772 >>64415044 >>64423238
Type 100 clone might become a thing.

https://x.com/gearheadguns/status/1979338075290636677
Anonymous No.64412318 [Report]
>>64411886
coming may-june-july-august-september-october-november-wheneverish*
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64412560 [Report] >>64413339 >>64439509
>>64411886
that looks like shit but Id probably buy it
Anonymous No.64412596 [Report]
>>64411886
>intentionally copying the crude-as-fuck last ditch variant so you can get away with cheap & sloppy bargain bin manufacturing
Certified BIG BRAIN move.
Anonymous No.64413339 [Report] >>64414772
>>64412560
$1250 for a gun that's 90% of a Type 100 is a pretty good deal desu
Anonymous No.64413443 [Report]
>>64399619
Go to hell, at least we got a couple different pictures for a change instead of the same fucking pictures recycled by the same fucking faggots
Anonymous No.64413460 [Report]
>>64404420
>>64404407
>>64404406
>>64402694
>>64400555
>>64393316
How the fuck did you overcomplicate the concept of hanging a shitty gun on a wall this fucking horrendously?
>select shitty rifle to display
>display rifle
Sound like paranoid old women
Anonymous No.64414772 [Report] >>64415150
>>64413339
The problem is he's not even 90% complete with the first prototype yet and we are almost 6 months delayed and references to materials and labor being significantly more expensive than expected have popped up.
I want the project to succeed but the finished product needs to look significantly better than >>64411886 for me to even consider buying it. It barely even looks like a Japanese gun.
Anonymous No.64414895 [Report] >>64415010 >>64415033 >>64415070 >>64415456 >>64415699 >>64419737
How much would you pay for a G43?
Anonymous No.64414931 [Report] >>64415042
Thoughts? tips?
Anonymous No.64415010 [Report] >>64415033
>>64414895
bout tree fiddy
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64415033 [Report] >>64415045 >>64415070
>>64414895
$2500, same as i paid for my two matching ones

>>64415010
lol i do have one I only have $350 in
Anonymous No.64415042 [Report]
>>64414931
be a lot more specific. cause
>Thoughts?
its a neat and fun gun
>tips?
you'll go thru a bunch of GSGI mags before you find the ones that will always work reliably
Anonymous No.64415044 [Report] >>64415691
>>64411886
>elongated barrel to meet current regs
im out
Anonymous No.64415045 [Report] >>64415077
>>64415033
>$2500
I wish I could find one priced like this
Anonymous No.64415070 [Report] >>64415077
>>64414895
Depends, a legit, original, unfucked, matching rifle usually goes for around $5k now. If the stock has been sanded, probably closer to $3k if the rest of it is really nice. And under $2.5k would be better for anything that has more serious issues (mismatched, sporterized, refinished, etc.).
>>64415033
>$2500, same as i paid for my two matching ones
Are you talking about untouched, matching guns because prices on those have doubled in the past 5 years. I really hope to get a nice matching rifle myself but you'd have to be extremely lucky to find one priced at $2500 these days.
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64415077 [Report]
>>64415045
>>64415070
yea I bought mine like 10 years ago from the same guy

the $350 one I built myself out of salvaged parts and a new made stock from poland
Anonymous No.64415150 [Report] >>64415399 >>64418730 >>64419906 >>64424362
>>64414772
>materials and labor being significantly more expensive than expected have popped up.
Tariffs and other associated economic autism might be more to blame than design issues, but yea all these delays for a simple gun aren't the most heartening.

>It barely even looks like a Japanese gun.
Supposedly this is gonna be the "cheaper" version and a more accurate version will eventually be available, but we'll see if they can even get the simpler one made.
Anonymous No.64415399 [Report] >>64417584
>>64415150
and I think thats the complete backwards way to go about the project. the $2000 super historically accurate gun (with added options for caliber and off the shelf magazines) should be the one that's made first.
The Type 100 is an $80,000+ gun. The people who are interested in the Type 100 have money to spend. Why are we starting with the stripped down model when the people who are going to actually be buying this are more hardcore milsurp enthusiasts with disposable income? He needs to target the whales and have them fund the rest of the development.
The whales NEED to buy this gun and compromising the aesthetics (the only actually compelling thing about this gun) seems insane.
Anonymous No.64415456 [Report] >>64415671
>>64414895
I paid 1800 for mine's because the guy needed sold, also that picture, $6000 gewehr 43 from the last time I saw it when it was 8,000
Anonymous No.64415671 [Report]
>>64415456
>$6000 gewehr 43 from the last time I saw it when it was 8,000
kek
Anonymous No.64415691 [Report]
>>64415044
200 dollars and you could make it look actually cool. Shouldn't have to though
Anonymous No.64415699 [Report]
>>64414895
Not enough to actually buy one. Not until I have "fuck you" money
Anonymous No.64417584 [Report] >>64419196
>>64415399
They probably thought it would be easier to design a gun with more off the shelf components and then use that experience and funding to work on a more original design. Should've done something that would've been more popular than Japshit though.
Anonymous No.64418730 [Report]
>>64415150
Who the fuck is going to buy the "modernized type 100". Nobody wants that, Its the same retarded shit HMG did the with STG44.
Anonymous No.64419196 [Report]
>>64417584
The internals won't be changing in the gun. The Type 100 is a fully automatic blow back machine gun so it has to be different from the original gun. The outside aesthetics is what is concerning. its literally the only thing that matters for tis gun and making a shitty one piece stock and using temu looking parts will kill this entire project. Japshit is plenty popular for this to work but it actually has to look good
Anonymous No.64419737 [Report] >>64419767 >>64422763
>>64414895
$0. They are hot garbage that is only propped up by their rarity and being a hekkin Nazerino gun. I would take a Garand, SVT, Ljigma, FN49, or hell even a MAS-49 over a G43.
>inb4 hurr fag
If liking functional firearms makes me gay, than I don't want to be straight.
Anonymous No.64419767 [Report]
>>64419737
based and gay
Anonymous No.64419906 [Report] >>64419958
>>64415150
>Supposedly this is gonna be the "cheaper" version and a more accurate version will eventually be available, but we'll see if they can even get the simpler one made.
NTA but oh boy. Never ever admit you have an early improved version two in the works, like ever. I'd feel shitty not letting people know as someone in that situation but Osborne did that with the world's first portable PC. Yeah here's version one it's great and is only like 18x12x18 (really more like pic rel 40mm can) and weighs 20lbs with a single shitty leather handle on top. They had version two in the works, mentioned it in interviews, and went out of business as their sales had decreased so drastically over what they would've had otherwise had no one known about a potential version 2. Hoping for the best but that isn't a good business move most of the time.
Anonymous No.64419958 [Report] >>64419985 >>64438511
>>64419906
Same for picrel which was my first handgun.
Anonymous No.64419985 [Report]
>>64419958
Yep, admit to version two once you're successful and you're close to releasing version two and already have v1 on sale, not before it's made. PS: I have this pamphlet (hard to find online) and I love the overuse of this lady in her office work clothes with high heels totally lugging this thing around effortlessly one-handed. Having moved one several times I can assure you this is an empty ABS case in this photo with zero doubt in my mind lol. It is a two hand computer easily and if I had one when they were new I'd have a little dolly/truck or a custom suitcase if I actually had to lug this thing all the time. Miserable to move.
Anonymous No.64422414 [Report] >>64422680
How much are Polish Mauser bayonets? Are Radom ones worth more?
Anonymous No.64422680 [Report] >>64424063
>>64422414
I just got a Wz. 29e and original ones are $300 at the very cheapest, i've seen some upwards of $900
I did see some nice repros on nestof but they're sold out.
Anonymous No.64422763 [Report] >>64423823
>>64419737
>or hell even a MAS-49
Besides the M1, that's the best rifle you listed
Anonymous No.64423238 [Report]
>>64411886
Finally I can cosplay her while competing in a PCC match
Anonymous No.64423660 [Report] >>64423799 >>64423828 >>64424808 >>64432540
are nambu pistols actually dogpoop?
Anonymous No.64423799 [Report]
>>64423660
no but they are very finicky and expensive and chambered in a completely obsolete cartridge
Anonymous No.64423823 [Report]
>>64422763
I don't want to play the MAS-49 lotto of getting one that shoots straight. So many of them look great, but have fucked bores.
Anonymous No.64423828 [Report]
>>64423660
Type 14s are perfectly fine as far as old war pistols go. Springs are a little weak but overall a neat gun. Are they the best there is? absolutely not. are they dogpoop? not toally.

an all around complete package of rugged pistol in an odd cartridge
Anonymous No.64424063 [Report]
>>64422680
>I just got a Wz. 29e and original ones are $300 at the very cheapest,
That's great to hear. I picked up a Scrubbed WZ 29 and Radom 29 bayonet for 500 dollarydoos and ratty as fuck Romy M44 and was give a lot of shit for trading a rifle for bayonet.
Anonymous No.64424362 [Report]
>>64415150
autistic dream of mine is one in 32 taking vz-61 mags
Anonymous No.64424808 [Report] >>64424840
>>64423660
They're peculiar but not completely unserviceable. They have wonderfully light triggers, pretty decent sights, and are pleasant shooters. A lot of the problems that come from them are weak springs, mismatched magazines, and ammo being nearly unavailable. Get a set of Wolf springs, a set of dies, a good load, and a pistol with a matching mag and they're fun to take out as long as you don't mind chasing brass.
Anonymous No.64424840 [Report]
>>64424808
i just like the look and thinking it could bea good hd thing to keep around
Anonymous No.64425414 [Report] >>64425558
When ever you guys acquire a new milsurp specifically one with wood furniture, what do you use to give it a wipe down? I have a Carcano that is dirty, but not RTI levels of dirty that requires a whole refinishing with BLO, I saw a video where this guy uses a rag lightly soaked in mineral spirits to clean his wood, but I thought mineral spirits was a solvent and remove the finish?
Anonymous No.64425558 [Report] >>64426992
>>64425414
I filled a large plastic container with scalding hot water, submerged my Wz.29 stock in it for about two minutes, and scrubbed with the rough side of a kitchen sponge. All surface dirt and grime instantly peeled off, no damage to the finish at all. Wiped down with a fresh towel and air-dried for a week.
Alternatively, I sprayed a spare K98k stock set with a fuck ton of Ballistol and gave it the same sponge treatment. Cleaned just as well, but took a while. I've heard of people getting similar results using simple green.
Anonymous No.64426992 [Report] >>64427022
>>64425558
>Hot water
>Ballistol
Huh, a lot simpler than I thought it would be.
Anonymous No.64427022 [Report]
>>64426992
Hot water and regular liquid dish soap also works amazingly well for this kind of stuff.
Anonymous No.64427273 [Report] >>64427832 >>64439697 >>64440830
How badly did i overpay msgbros
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64427832 [Report]
>>64427273
maybe $100? depends where you live
Anonymous No.64427897 [Report] >>64428104
I got a question about the availability of 7mm Mauser. Ive been reading some 1920's American Rifleman, and seem to really like 7x57, putting it right behind 30-06 for a sporting cartridge. Now at the time you could order a rifle from Mauser, or get a 7mm barrel put on an action you had, but if I couldn;t afford that but still really wanted to shoot 7x57, does anyone know what the surplus situation was? Did Bannerman have any 7mm rifles available at the time?
Anonymous No.64428104 [Report]
>>64427897
In 1899 Bannerman had purchased several thousand Spanish M1893s that the US captured in Cuba/Puerto Rico and brought back to Springfield for testing. IDK how many they had left by the 1920s, but they had tried to sell some to Serbia in 1913 to replace Serbian losses in the Balkan Wars but the sale had been opposed by Austria-Hungary.
Anonymous No.64428896 [Report] >>64429365 >>64429398 >>64430110 >>64435626
Bros.. did i get scammed on proxibid?
I didn't see this until after the auction was over
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64429365 [Report]
>>64428896
Technically no because you bid what you bid. Always check for that disclaimer and if you see it then your best bet is to do incremental bids at the podium. That disclaimer basically means that any pre-bidding you do is magically always going to hit your max. Rock Island does the same thing.
Anonymous No.64429398 [Report] >>64432639
>>64428896
It’s not like they couldn’t do that already. At pretty much any live auction I’ve ever been to the employees and even the auctioneer can bid against you. No way to tell if it’s truly shill bidding because a lot of those guys work for the auctioneer because especially in the days before internet hosted auctions, it brings in the kind of stuff these guys collect.
Anonymous No.64430110 [Report]
>>64428896
Any type of auction is like that, except they're being more up front with it. Shit should be illegal, but how do you stop it, you don't know if that bidder is plant or not.
Anonymous No.64432540 [Report]
>>64423660
they're good minus firing pins breaking from dry firing and ammo availbility
Anonymous No.64432639 [Report] >>64432868
>>64429398
wheres your 6.5 krag
Anonymous No.64432868 [Report] >>64434134
>>64432639
Here:
shadexnlr@gmail.com No.64432878 [Report] >>64433589
Any one want to buy a Pattern 1907 bayonet? It's a Wilkinson made in March 1918, Has the leather sheath. I don't use it and it takes up space.
https://imgur.com/a/vmAxTHs
$115 + Free shipping
Payment would be through Paypal
Send an email if you want it

Holy shit fuck this captcha system
Anonymous No.64433589 [Report]
>>64432878
ill give you $40
Anonymous No.64434134 [Report] >>64434302
>>64432868
those are mausers
Anonymous No.64434302 [Report] >>64434932
>>64434134
Chambered in 6.5 Krag.
Anonymous No.64434932 [Report] >>64436068
>>64434302
i wanted krag the gun
Anonymous No.64435626 [Report]
>>64428896
you got kiked by boomers next time stop being a retard
Anonymous No.64435940 [Report]
>bid on one gun
>it goes for average price
>see same model going for sale on next lot
>throw in lowball bid on second gun
>it goes for half the price of the first
wtf i love boomer auction psychology now
Anonymous No.64436068 [Report]
>>64434932
You can’t always get what you want.
Anonymous No.64437345 [Report] >>64437382 >>64437535 >>64437574 >>64437945 >>64438102 >>64438315
What percentage of guns do you buy from:
- Gunbroker
- Non-gunbroker auctions
- Gunshows
- Local classifieds

For myself it's 5% gunbroker, 70% auctions, 25% gunshows, 0% classifieds
TennisBalls !vEk5JAWkCE No.64437382 [Report]
>>64437345
>you forgot LGS
Gunbroker - 10%
Non-GB Auctions - 60%
Gunshows - 5%
Classifieds - 0%
Local gun store - 25%
Anonymous No.64437535 [Report]
>>64437345
Everything has been:
Local shows, the Vegas show, local based gunshops and a few boomers I know.

I refuse to buy anything online (other than ammo and parts) and ive never been really good at finding local auctions.
Anonymous No.64437574 [Report] >>64439418
>>64437345
>Gunbroker
10%
>non-Gunborker online auctions
40%
>live auctions
35%
>LGS
5%
>online retailers
4%
>Zoomers on social media
1%
Anonymous No.64437945 [Report]
>>64437345
50% - fuddbroker
25% - other online auctions
0% - gunshows
0% - classifieds
25% - LGS

I have had pretty decent luck getting under market deals on gunbroker
Anonymous No.64438102 [Report]
>>64437345
>Gunbroker
6%
>Non GB Auctions
55%
Gunshows
>4%
>Local Gun Store
10%
>Online Retailer
25%

My local area has not been fruitful for anything I've been looking for lately so online has been the go-to for me.
Anonymous No.64438315 [Report] >>64439557
>>64437345
Everything I've ever bought has been from a gun show
Anonymous No.64438511 [Report]
>>64419958
Wut kind of goon is dat? Ser make/mod?
Anonymous No.64439418 [Report] >>64439592
>>64437574
>>Zoomers on social media
selling off grand papi's gun for roblox money? what kind of stuff do you get off zoomers?
mokmeet !!cLftTokrdKc No.64439509 [Report]
>>64412560
same, fren
Anonymous No.64439557 [Report] >>64440365
>>64438315
Itemize your success at analoguely milsurping
Anonymous No.64439592 [Report]
>>64439418
1916 FEG-made Mannlicher 1895, still in 8x50R. Could be a WW2 bring-back or pre-1968 import, most likely from Spain. It was in a Czech infantry battalion post-WW1.
Anonymous No.64439697 [Report] >>64442781
>>64427273

What website is this?!?!
Anonymous No.64440365 [Report]
>>64439557
>93/33 Turk Mauser, good condition - $360
>8x56r M95, great condition - $500
>Type 38, pretty good condition(a few minor cracks which I was able to fix with glue) - $320
>P14, great condition - $500
>Enfield No2 Mk1*, very good condition - $600, pic related
The Enfield was probably the least of a deal of the guns which I bought, but I was entranced by its feel in my hand and I had some extra cash in my pocket. I've also gotten clips, ammo, and bayonets at shows, but I don't remember exact prices for any of them. Nothing past $60
Calgary_Vetterli No.64440830 [Report] >>64447971
>>64427273
You definitely underpaid. That's an antique first production year 1897 Husqvarna. This isn't the first time I've seen antiques sold as a C&R gun by any means. It has a non original cylinder replacement. It may possibly be a commercial aftermarket one or a very, very rare .32 ACP dog training blank-fire conversion cylinder. If it's the latter you lucked out big time. You are missing your lanyard ring unfortunately. The actual value will depend on what kind of cylinder is in that thing. But if you add a mismatched original cylinder in 7.5mm Nagant ($150 on Ebay) you have a $1300-$1600 USD antique revolver there. Up here in Canada that type of firearm would go for $2150-$2500 USD in that condition. That assumes the cylinder presently in the gun has no value though. My pricing is based on Gunbroker sales and my dealings in Canada here as an antique firearms dealer. Hope this information was useful.
Anonymous No.64442781 [Report]
>>64439697
Proxibid
Anonymous No.64443078 [Report] >>64443413
I just picked up a Shanghai Municipal Police Colt 1908 on a whim since something SMP has been a grail gun for me and it was in my price range. That being said, someone scratched off "Shanghai" from the side, the barrel is a nonmatching SMP barrel, and it's missing the screw to block the safety. I see matching examples go for $3000-4000, and I got this for about $1150 so I feel I did well, but what do you guys think?
Anonymous No.64443321 [Report] >>64443589
>>64393935
It isn't so much our "fear" of that happening, but rather the desire to stay within legal requirements and avoid annoying issues.
Anonymous No.64443413 [Report] >>64443764
>>64443078
>someone scratched off "Shanghai"
I would only consider it worth what any commercial 1908 in similar condition would be.
Anonymous No.64443579 [Report] >>64444081 >>64447487
Saw an ERA P-14 at a local Cabela's. Bore wasn't too dark, no volley sights, didn't see it marked DP. Cabela's loves to overprice shit and it's listed at $799.99, but is that too high nowadays?
Anonymous No.64443589 [Report] >>64445296
>>64443321
Got it so VERY Canadian.

Is the legal definition that it needs to be deactivated permanently? Or does removing a part to make it inoperable, but still being able to fire when said part is added not count?

Go with either that fits. But if the permanently disabling it ruins what otherwise would've been a gun youd want to take to the range occasionally just hang it up with a trigger lock on it (which will detract from the display) if that satisfies your local gay laws.
Anonymous No.64443764 [Report] >>64443971
>>64443413
Interesting, even though it retains the other modifications and markings, as well as being lettered?
Anonymous No.64443971 [Report] >>64445568
>>64443764
It’s just my opinion, but to be missing a key marking from its history is a pretty significant detractor to value. Like I wouldn’t want a M1911 missing the US property mark at all.
Anonymous No.64444081 [Report]
>>64443579
Were the serial numbers matching? I paid that much for my Remington P.14 including P.13 bayonet and P.07 sling. It was refurbished during WW2 to "Wheedon Repair Standard" meaning the removal of the long range dial sight, piling swivel and unit marking disc. Mine had an Eddystone-made stock force-matched to it at that time, but still retains its original matching Remington bolt. Bore is dark with mild pitting but it is still a consistent shooter. If it's matching offer them $500 cash and haggle from there.
Calgary_Vetterli No.64445296 [Report] >>64445431 >>64445581 >>64452268
>>64443589
In Canada to legally display firearms you have a few options. You can remove the bolt or operating mechanism and lock that up. Or put on the firearm some form of secure locking device. This can be a trigger lock, a zip tie, a cable lock or anything similar. But yeah it is pretty gay. It makes a display look kind of cucked. There's a lot of people who simply ignore the laws here, but it takes one nosy neighbor or one retarded anti-gun relative and you have legal charges against you and it more or less can ruin your life over something pretty stupid. Is your freedom worth a nicer looking display or a political statement? Probably not. It's fucked but that's the rub.
Anonymous No.64445431 [Report]
>>64445296
Freedom is worth death.
I know that’s a little easier to say in burgerland rn but we’ll learn soon too.
Anonymous No.64445568 [Report] >>64447758
>>64443971
Sure, I agree that it significantly devalued the pistol, but I also figure it's worth more than a standard 1908
Anonymous No.64445581 [Report] >>64451055
>>64445296
That’s why it took you 200 more years to gain your independence from Britain.
Anonymous No.64447487 [Report]
>>64443579
I paid 600 for mine, but off the top of my head I don't remember if it was matching or not
Anonymous No.64447758 [Report]
>>64445568
Like I said, it’s just my personal preference. If the defacement was part of its service history then that’s different, but if there’s no evidence for that case then I just see it as a detractor compared to the base line commercial model.
Anonymous No.64447971 [Report] >>64448056 >>64448058 >>64448060
>>64440830
What's the import/export process to canada if i want to sell antiques to leafs?

Got a couple early mk i and ii webleys and i wouldn't mind selling to a place like switzers based on the prices i see them getting over there
Anonymous No.64448054 [Report]
Technically from a legal perspective exporting from an antique firearm from the US wouldn't actually require any paperwork or FFL license. However because UPS and FedEx are incompetent and expensive when it comes to Customs Brokerage you don't want to just ship to a private address from a private address from the US to Canada with those carriers because they will inevitably with like with an 85% chance fuck something up and in the 15% chance where they don't fuck something up when they deliver it to the recipient they're going to rape them with Customs Brokerage fees and Duty forwarding fees and a bunch of bullshit charges that will ultimately go back to you the original shipper especially if you're shipping to a business. Even if you provide all the paperwork proving the gun is an antique to satisfy the American and the Canadian legal authorities shipping service oftentimes still tell you you have incomplete paperwork and Return to Sender because they're a bunch of incompetent morons who want a lot of money to fuck up that your shipment. And they basically screw up the export control number every single time and now that's even more relevant because it dictates whether or not tariffs are applied. Antique guns are not a tariffed item for import into Canada but of course UPS and FedEx are morons and put in the wrong ECN number and then they want to charge you for the tariffs that they've paid erroneously on your behalf and they also want a fee for paying the tariffs on your behalf also on top of that.
Anonymous No.64448056 [Report]
>>64447971
Your other option is to pay a firearms exporter which is not legally required at all but they will actually get things across the border without an issue most of the time. I've only ever had to use an exporter to export an antique once and that was Borderview International. They twiddled their thumbs for 2 months instead of just emailing the RCMP or calling them for their required documents for the import and I had to actually get that information for them because they were taking so long and it only took me personally 26 minutes on the phone to get the info I needed. And then they turn around and ask me for 500 US dollars for their export "services".

Some other options are to either have a customs agent or broker handle the export rather than a firearm exporter because their fees tend to be a lot lower and as long as you're able to explain that it's a antique firearm and provide them with the paperwork they shouldn't have any issues exporting it. However, a lot of them as soon as you mention anything Firearms related will immediately hang up the phone more or less. I'd say the majority of package forwarding and brokerage firms in the US that export to Canada will not handle any Firearms even antiques.
Anonymous No.64448058 [Report]
>>64447971
What I personally do is, I buy antique guns in the US online and ship them to a US receiving address right near the Canada US land border. They receive packages for me and they know they're handling antique guns and they're fine with it. I cleared it with the owner beforehand. And I personally drive down to the US and import them back into Canada on my own behalf as my own agent. I prepare my own documentation and paperwork which is pretty easy in my opinion to do yourself. I declare everything like I'm supposed to, and I usually get stuck in secondary inspection for a minimum of 45 minutes and then I pay my duty and they let me go on my way. If you happen to live near a border crossing like Detroit you can drive into Windsor Ontario it's a only a hop and a skip away. Or if you know anyone who lives up near the northern border and is willing to make a trip to Canada with some antique handguns and they're not a total fucking moron that may be an option.

Honestly, if you're serious about actually selling these guns and getting a maximum value to them in Canada I would consign them with a decent auction house like Switzer's or Wards in Edmonton Alberta. Or if you don't want to gamble with a no Reserve auction Calgary Shooting Center has a pretty good store and recently has dipped more into antique handguns and has been generating some pretty good sales and you can set the asking price and consign it with them. Although some businesses in Canada only take Consignment from Canadian customers. Which is honestly kind of retarded because as long as they receive the inventory in illegal way why should they care where they have to send the money to especially since it's just to the US. So that's a call and ask first type situation.
Anonymous No.64448060 [Report]
>>64447971
Or since you're asking I'll put my shameless plug into this. I'd be willing to export your antique firearms and do all of your import and customs brokerage on the Canadian side and take your antiques on consignment with my other antiques that I'm selling and sell it for you, and only require 10% Commission. Any shipping, receiving address fees ($5 per package), and taxes (7% of declared value) would be your expenses to pay of course. I'm more or less a private seller I post on all of the major classifieds in Canada that allow guns and go to every gun show as vendor within a 5-hour Drive of my location. A store or an auction house may sell it quicker than me maybe not but you'll get more in the long run. I've had some very desirable guns sell within less than 8 hours after I posted them online so who knows. I also do antique Gunsmithing repair and Appraisal as well.

You can shoot me an email if you are interested. My email is: AntiqueAnon@proton.me

That's just a throwaway email. I'll give you my actual proper contact details if you email that email address.
Anonymous No.64451055 [Report] >>64451283 >>64455496
>>64445581
>Ross
What's the least autistic Canadian firearm?
Anonymous No.64451283 [Report]
>>64451055
Cooey Canuck
Anonymous No.64452268 [Report]
>>64445296
youre a cuck m8. im canadian and keep my shotgun loaded on a wallmount and yes my SKS has a standard magazine courtesy of some based americano friends and no i wont be turning them in
Anonymous No.64454175 [Report] >>64455185 >>64460245 >>64461693
just sold this argentinian m1891 cavalry carbine for 630
i regret it although the price was good
fuck i already miss that little fucker
Anonymous No.64454849 [Report]
I guess i'll ask here. I'm trying to find a youtube channel that would post videos of hiking trips with kit, ration reviews, and some generally pleasant outdoor videos. He had gondola as his mascot and would always shill zibby beans from kommandostore. i dont think he was closely associated with that company but I have no idea if they just deleted the videos or something.

Any ideas?
Anonymous No.64455185 [Report] >>64455860
>>64454175
why sell if you new youd regret/miss it?
Anonymous No.64455496 [Report]
>>64451055
I would instead counter that every Canadian firearms inventor was the most autistic Non German firearms inventors
Anonymous No.64455532 [Report]
Are there any books about military surplus from the American Civil War?
Anonymous No.64455860 [Report]
>>64455185
too many guns
Anonymous No.64455932 [Report] >>64456018
how do i reverse a gun sale from 15 years ago? i sold my mosin for $80 and regret it i want to ctrl-z it back and resell for $500
Anonymous No.64456018 [Report] >>64456049
>>64455932
you have to end your current playthrough and load up your last save point before the sale
Anonymous No.64456049 [Report]
>>64456018
>save scumming
the correct method is to buy a 500 dollar mosin now and wait to sell it for 1,100 dollars
MT fag No.64457556 [Report] >>64458531
Question for anyone in the know: Those 120mm ammo transport tubes for tanks... is there a legal way they get into civilian hands or is it mostly "look the other way" kinda deal? I'm wondering if I can ring up my local base and ask about buying one rather than going on a waitlist for one of these milsurp stores.

Pic related.
Anonymous No.64458435 [Report] >>64459858
Has anyone removed a front sight on a no4mk1 before, the pin is removed, but it still won't move even after breaking a punch trying to smack it.
Anonymous No.64458531 [Report]
>>64457556
they make it to the private market once in awhile, need to hit up the surp shops closest to Forts Hood, Benning and Stewart,
Anonymous No.64459560 [Report]
Anyone who has a surp that has a sn that ends in quads gets to name the fake construction company my buddy and I own for our World of Concrete badges for the Vegas Antique Arms Show show this year.
We might also try to crash Shot Show too. but for now we are gonna fuck around at world of concrete
Anonymous No.64459858 [Report]
>>64458435
Reduce the coldness of the hood while using an air hammer and a block.
Anonymous No.64460046 [Report] >>64461175 >>64464237
What's a semi automatic pistol that's as big or smaller as makarov, has a lenyard loop, and not unobtanium.
Anonymous No.64460245 [Report]
>>64454175
there's literally nothing wrong with selling i probably sell 1 gun for every 2 i buy
Anonymous No.64461175 [Report]
>>64460046
Turn of the century 32 ACP pocket pistols? Browning HP?
Anonymous No.64461693 [Report]
>>64454175
i only sell guns to finance better guns
Anonymous No.64464237 [Report]
>>64460046
ruby
Anonymous No.64464619 [Report] >>64464624 >>64464939
Anonymous No.64464624 [Report] >>64464939
>>64464619
Lee Enfield Rifle No 1 Mk 3* Lithgow 1917
Anonymous No.64464627 [Report]
Lee Enfield No.4 Mk1 Savage built
Anonymous No.64464939 [Report]
>>64464619
>>64464624
Smelly.
Anonymous No.64465587 [Report]
Found a TNW Suomi for $1280 at this gun show I’m setting up at and I have never been so tempted to buy something I have no particular interest in
Anonymous No.64465712 [Report] >>64466162 >>64466380 >>64466937 >>64469612
>nugget
Check.

>handnugget
Check.

>autonugget
Check.

But where the DISCNUGGET enthusiasts at?
Anonymous No.64466162 [Report] >>64466177 >>64467663
>>64465712
>no mini nugget
Anonymous No.64466177 [Report] >>64466236 >>64467449
>>64466162
That just falls under nugget desu
Anonymous No.64466236 [Report] >>64467663
>>64466177
But it smol
Anonymous No.64466380 [Report]
>>64465712
i wish i had a lever nugget
Anonymous No.64466763 [Report] >>64469970
is this bad for old guns
Anonymous No.64466910 [Report]
Is it even possible to get a swedish M40 or M44 mess kit for under a $100 anymore? I found one for a reasonable price then I realized they just took the stove and windshield and stuffed a $15 austrian mess kit in it.
Anonymous No.64466937 [Report] >>64466984 >>64467663
>>64465712
>pic
are these obtanium in current year
Anonymous No.64466984 [Report]
>>64466937
I saw one not too long ago but it was built by icehouse and the guy wanted 6 grand for it
Anonymous No.64467128 [Report] >>64467227
For the guys who want to take a chance with the funny Type 100 clone.
Anonymous No.64467227 [Report]
>>64467128
I am still only interested in the historical SBR. Glad its finally starting to take off though.
Anonymous No.64467449 [Report]
>>64466177
ohhh i never got a short nugget, I think it might be time
Anonymous No.64467663 [Report] >>64471609
>>64466937
Well that depends, are open bolt semi autos legal where you live
(The mags were actually cheaper than this, I got them for $9 each lmao, I'd buy a palet of them if they weren't such a horrible pain in the ass to reassemble after cleaning them of cosmoline.)

>>64466236
>>64466162
Wait I just realized it's not perspective what the fug is that thing
Anonymous No.64469612 [Report] >>64469719
>>64465712
what about the elusive belt nugget?
Anonymous No.64469719 [Report] >>64471352
>>64469612
I'm not Ian McCollum so my chances of ever laying a hand on one of these aren't great
(There were semi RPDs available for a short while and I regret missing out on that, while I deliberately let the semi PKMs pass me by because I am NOT shelling out $7,500 for a cucked belt fed.)
Anonymous No.64469970 [Report] >>64471603
>>64466763
Why would it be?
Anonymous No.64471352 [Report]
>>64469719
The FG-42 guys were making repros, but they seem to have disappeared along with the FGs.
Anonymous No.64471603 [Report]
>>64469970
i dunno it's a new clp that does something to the metal besides lubbing and made for new guns
Anonymous No.64471609 [Report]
>>64467663
>Well that depends, are open bolt semi autos legal
I think they're legal everywhere in Us but that looks like poland