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Anonymous No.64396556 [Report] >>64396565 >>64396583 >>64396677 >>64396693 >>64396706 >>64396808 >>64397048 >>64397407 >>64397762 >>64397922 >>64398290 >>64398373 >>64398648 >>64398972 >>64398994 >>64399084 >>64399224 >>64399310 >>64399468 >>64399875 >>64400567 >>64401223 >>64401237 >>64401240 >>64402832 >>64405803 >>64406071 >>64406526 >>64408681
Realistically, how could a naked Filipino beat a Spaniard soldier with a shield and full plate armor?
Anonymous No.64396565 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
the jungle
Anonymous No.64396568 [Report] >>64396640 >>64396995 >>64398337 >>64399221 >>64399299 >>64399849
Since when did SEAmonkeys discover steel?
Anonymous No.64396569 [Report] >>64396585 >>64396618 >>64396649 >>64396665 >>64398326 >>64403493 >>64405799
The Spanish killed 7,000 Incas at the Battle of Cajamarca and suffered literally no loses (only an African slave got killed). That means the average Spaniard was slaying AT LEAST 40 Inca warriors

That's 40K space marine vs regular human king of shit. Must have been fun
Anonymous No.64396579 [Report]
>full plate
No. A helmet and breastplate maybe and that’s if they had the money to buy their own.
Anonymous No.64396583 [Report] >>64396588 >>64396603 >>64396664 >>64396694
>>64396556 (OP)
Imagine how much less retarded south america would be if the spaniards killed them all
Anonymous No.64396585 [Report] >>64396609 >>64396701 >>64398953
>>64396569
cope
>>64392769
Anonymous No.64396588 [Report] >>64405517
>>64396583
It would be full of Spaniards so still retarded and irrelevant
Anonymous No.64396603 [Report] >>64396611 >>64396694 >>64397021 >>64397859 >>64405521
>>64396583
Literally impossible

Estimates for the population of Mexico, Central, and South America before the European conquest in 1492 vary, but a common figure is around 37 to 60 million people across the Americas, with estimates for the specific regions including around 6 million in the Aztec Empire, 5-10 million in the Mayan States, 11 million in Brazil, and 12 million in the Inca Empire.

If people think the Holocaust was impossible with trains, concentration camps, gas Chambers and machine guns imagine getting rid of at the very least 40 million people with swords and shitty firearms that take forever to reload
Anonymous No.64396609 [Report]
>>64396585
?
Anonymous No.64396611 [Report] >>64396694 >>64400256
>>64396603
90% of the natives died to disease. With a basic understanding infection I bet they could have made it nearly 100%.
Anonymous No.64396618 [Report] >>64396642
>>64396569
Spain lost a large part of Central America to African slaves,you guys are awful. The uk would never!
Anonymous No.64396640 [Report] >>64401094
>>64396568

They already had gunpowder weapons and cannons in Southeast Asia due to the spread of Islam there. A sword is chump change compare to the cannons and castles the Filipinos and SEAmonkeys already have.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantaka
Anonymous No.64396642 [Report] >>64396684 >>64398755
>>64396618
>The UK would never
Lmao
Suck my dick
Anonymous No.64396649 [Report] >>64396665 >>64396694 >>64405526
>>64396569
The Inca were literally unarmed, though. Once they figured out the Spaniards wanted to kill them, they managed to wipe out several detachments before succumbing as their subject peoples switched sides and bolstered Spanish numbers.
Atahualpa was retarded, that was all.
Anonymous No.64396664 [Report] >>64396691
>>64396583
The southern cone is more European than the US and still retarded.
Never import Pasta.
Anonymous No.64396665 [Report] >>64405526
>>64396569
>>64396649
This. Also note literally thousands were killed trying to keep the the King's throne off the ground. It's way less impressive when you consider it didn't involve much in the way of mutual combat and was more of a hybrid slaughter since they didn't know how to respond to the Spanish having control over their king.
Anonymous No.64396674 [Report]
>it doesn't count because the victor beat the loser
Anonymous No.64396677 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
If the Spaniard had to march 20 miles wearing that armor first
Anonymous No.64396684 [Report] >>64396701
>>64396642
and guess who won this war
Anonymous No.64396691 [Report] >>64398685
>>64396664
>The southern cone is more European than the US and still retarded.
Anyone who believes this is legitimately a retard
Anonymous No.64396693 [Report] >>64396702
>>64396556 (OP)
their clubs could theoretically manage to work just as well as a peasants clubs, and peasants did occasionally gang up and beat a knight to death. even in armor.
Anonymous No.64396694 [Report] >>64396889 >>64396891 >>64397175 >>64397769 >>64397795 >>64397880 >>64397943 >>64398474 >>64401001 >>64403493 >>64405067 >>64407524
>>64396583
>>64396603
>>64396611
>>64396649
Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies, by Jared Diamond explains most of the history, and literally the fate, of secondary cultures.
Anonymous No.64396701 [Report] >>64397389
>>64396684
And guess who won the Rif War, retard >>64396585
Anonymous No.64396702 [Report] >>64397014
>>64396693
>and peasants did occasionally gang up and beat a knight to death.
Sounds fun
Anonymous No.64396706 [Report] >>64405125 >>64405550
>>64396556 (OP)

The "naked" Filipino can simply fire their cannons at the Spaniards wearing shields and full plate armor, since the Portuguese who came to the Philippines first, noted that Filipinos used cannons in addition to martial arts in their military operations across Southeast Asia, when they arrived

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzones

>When the Portuguese arrived in Southeast Asia in the early 1500s, they witnessed the Luzones' active involvement in the political and economic affairs of those who sought to take control of the economically strategic highway of the Strait of Malacca.

>Fernão Lopes de Castanheda, in História do descobrimento e conquista da Índia (Lisbon, 1551) Vol. 1, pp. 201–205 (Livro V, cap. 34), Malacca garrison (1511–20s); wrote as such:

>Portuguese records show Lução soldiers in every garrison of Malaca, prized for their seamanship and ferocity in skirmishes with the Johor fleet.

>For instance, the former sultan of Malacca decided to retake his city from the Portuguese with a fleet of ships from Lusung in 1525.[22]

>And it was written in Gaspar Correia's, Lendas da Índia (Acad. das Ciências de Lisboa, 1858–64) Vol. 1, pp. 312–318 (Livro III, cap. LV) Malacca restoration (1526):

>When the Sultan of Malacca fled, he took refuge with a Luções chieftain; fifty Lução ships then returned him to power, fighting their way through Johor’s blockade.

>The Luzones had military and commercial interests mainly across Southeast Asia with some minor reach in East Asia and South Asia, so much so that the Portuguese soldier Joao de Barros considered the Luções who were militarily and commercially active across the region, "the most warlike and valiant of these parts."[28]
Anonymous No.64396724 [Report]
Spaniards encountering Stone Castles with Metal Cannons in the Philippines...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cainta_(historical_polity)

>The polity was surrounded by bamboo thickets, defended by a log wall, stone bulwarks, and several lantakas, and that an arm of the Pasig River flowed through the middle of the city, dividing it into two settlements.[3]
Anonymous No.64396808 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
No. Spain DID take the islands.
Anonymous No.64396889 [Report]
>>64396694
>Guns, Germs, and Steel
Trash. But it allows turdies to cope I guess.
Anonymous No.64396891 [Report]
>>64396694
Don't ever reference that nonsense ever again.
Anonymous No.64396906 [Report]
Heh. The metal sword.
Anonymous No.64396995 [Report]
>>64396568
Huh? They always did have metal works.
They traded and bartered for metal then made swords and spears.
Anonymous No.64397014 [Report] >>64397825 >>64399448
>>64396702
probably looked something like this, but with a club you're more likely to really ring the knight's skull. even in padding, skullcap, helmet, getting hit in the fucking head with even a stick with iron bands fucking SUCKS
>t. hematard who volunteered to get hit
Anonymous No.64397021 [Report]
>>64396603
Wasn't a problem for the Mongols.
Anonymous No.64397048 [Report] >>64397690 >>64399882
>>64396556 (OP)
Same energy! Objectively speaking, why don't antifa type groups identify as their own group instead of lumping all other disparaged groups together? Is it because they're so weak on their own that they want to adopt a marxist worldview?
Anonymous No.64397175 [Report]
>>64396694
>Jared Diamond
Unironically, kill yourself.
Anonymous No.64397389 [Report]
>>64396701
France
Anonymous No.64397407 [Report] >>64405550
>>64396556 (OP)
>how could a naked Filipino beat a Spaniard soldier with a shield and full plate armor

Since you had to ask

https://tinyurl.cum/nakedfilipinabeatingwhiteman
Anonymous No.64397690 [Report]
>>64397048
Outgroup preference. They see a picture of white knight fighting a middle eastern one and immediately assume the white man is the aggressor. It's easier for them to identify with someone looking different than their own people.
Anonymous No.64397762 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
Lmao most of south american natives joined the spanish to overthrow the awful leaders.
Anonymous No.64397769 [Report]
>>64396694
That book is literally just jewish opinion.
Anonymous No.64397790 [Report]
TRVTH NVKE
>Spaniards encountered multiple empires with awful practices
>Many locals willingly joined the Spaniards and converted to Catholicism to overthrow the human sacrifice religion rulers
>The diseases the natives encountered were the same that rekt Europe and are not native to either place
Spain did nothing wrong.
Anonymous No.64397795 [Report]
>>64396694
Retarded faggot.
Anonymous No.64397825 [Report] >>64398357
>>64397014
This version of the fight always seemed like the armored guy, supposedly a knight, was holding back. Makes sense if he's winded, but an actual Knight in his physical prime would basically be able to tank blows while individually cutting down each guy. If each peasant had a mace maybe they could bumrush him and ring his bell hard enough to take him down but Knights would have trained to take out common weapons like spears easily since a spearman has to hope their spearhead is thin enough to get into a weakspot not covered by chainmail.
Anonymous No.64397859 [Report] >>64397892
>>64396603
Genocide is most efficienyly achieved through starvation and labour camps anon. The spanish worked lots of carribean people to death in the mines. But the mainland? Too much jungle and mountains you would never get them all.
Anonymous No.64397880 [Report] >>64397925 >>64397925 >>64401103 >>64401642
>>64396694
Ah yes. The retarded book that claimed Africa contains no coal or iron ore and that you cant domesticate zebra. And that claims Africa has no staple crops despite shit like sorghum and tubers existing there.

The wrongest book ever.
Anonymous No.64397892 [Report]
>>64397859
Most deaths were from disease, something that no one properly understood until hundreds of years later.
Anonymous No.64397922 [Report] >>64408667
>>64396556 (OP)
Both got brutally mogged by 45 ACP and 38 special, SAD! Many such cases.
Anonymous No.64397925 [Report] >>64404889
>>64397880
>>64397880
>claimed Africa contains no coal or iron ore
so how did the zulus make spears? does the book say?
Anonymous No.64397943 [Report] >>64397951 >>64398347 >>64398391 >>64398447 >>64399842 >>64400241 >>64400321 >>64405639 >>64405726
>>64396694
>Guns, Germs, and Steel
It's hilarious how this book makes seethe both racists and leftards.
The narrative and examples in the book were poor, but the main thesis of Geodeterminism is sound.
Sorry faggots, it is what it is. The starting point in the word map was indeed key to success.
>you cant domesticate zebra
You can't, retard. A few circus-like examples are worthless and there were other factors.

And btw, you ancestors were forest niggers fortunate to live next to actual city builders and that's it.
Anonymous No.64397951 [Report] >>64397962 >>64401655 >>64405885
>>64397943
Excuse me, but there were African Kingdoms with shitloads of gold and southern Africa could literally feed everyone on Earth if it was utilized properly. You're just butthurt.
Anonymous No.64397962 [Report]
>>64397951
Also before this seething brown says anything more, my people literally kept classical knowledge going in Europe far after the meds collapsed their empire.
Anonymous No.64398290 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
Rape
Anonymous No.64398326 [Report]
>>64396569
>"battle" of Cajamarca
Nigga they ambushed and bushwacked a delegation of unarmed nobles at a peace negotiation, why the fuck would you brag about that?
Anonymous No.64398337 [Report] >>64399849
>>64396568
>Since when did SEAmonkeys discover steel?
This nigga doesn't know about the Strait of Malacca trading cartels or the thriving Indian Ocean trading routes.
Anonymous No.64398347 [Report]
>>64397943
>Learned Everything From /pol/ and /his/ Award
gay and retarded
Anonymous No.64398357 [Report]
>>64397825
so the full video does mention that the bandit shot his horse, so he might have had a fall, jogged after the guy, and is then in a fight after all that. i can see him being a bit more winded after that, and having someone use a stick to shove you while you're already in armor is gonna wear you down to the ground pretty fast. i think the key difference between the two versions is actually the mancatcher getting a good handle on him early on in the fight.
Anonymous No.64398373 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
>how could a naked Filipino beat a Spaniard soldier with a shield and full plate armor?
most people guess that they aimed for the legs,
magellan was recorded to have had his arms and legs hit

also sheer number
there were at least a thousand filipinos against less than a hundred spanish, the spanish also left their native allies on the boats further reducing their numbers
at that point, force concentration hits a peak and theres no way for each spaniard to engage a native without a second or third attacking him from the sides and getting a hit on an unarmored part
Anonymous No.64398391 [Report] >>64399441
>>64397943
>the main thesis of Geodeterminism is sound.
Japs and Europeans were more succesful than Africans with wildely differing geographies (and mineral deposits). The fucking Incas had a more advanced society than any African nation while lacking the wheel and metallurgy.

Niggers are just retarded.
Anonymous No.64398447 [Report]
>>64397943
>A few circus-like examples are worthless
Grug see Thag give meat to wolf. Stupid Thag, wolf not be friend.
Anonymous No.64398474 [Report] >>64398642
>>64396694
>GGS
Ah yes the guy that said availability of resources determine everything then ignore less developed peoples with abundant resources.
Anonymous No.64398642 [Report]
>>64398474
In reality it's closer to:
A certain degree of scarcity to promote innovation.
Enough resources to not suffer from constant shortages.
The ability to easily conduct trade and exchange ideas.
A culture that promotes both literacy and innovation.
A stable government and areas not directly impacted by wars and violence.
A stable economy.
A largely consistent climate and generally predictable weather patterns for growing and storing food over long periods of time.
Anonymous No.64398648 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
They didn't
Anonymous No.64398685 [Report] >>64405699 >>64405702
>>64396691
He's kinda right in a really stupid way. Argies larp as euros and imitate their culture as much as they can. Americans see themselves as different and make an effort to be culturally distinct.
Anonymous No.64398710 [Report]
>resistance day
>they all speak the languages of their conquerors
Anonymous No.64398755 [Report] >>64399183 >>64405885
>>64396642
“Alright lads, we’re going to the Caribbean. We’re British. Big fleet. Big army. Rich Spanish city. What could possibly go wrong?”

The Cast:

British: Admiral Edward Vernon, basically a man who thinks shouting “big ships, bigger guns” is a strategy. Around 186 ships and 27,000 troops. So, like, a small floating city with ambitions.

Spanish: Blas de Lezo, one-eyed, one-armed, one-legged legend. Think: pirate wizard but official. Defending Cartagena with ~6,000 troops. Basically, the ultimate underdog meme.

Phase 1: The “We’re Here, We’re Huge” Moment
The Brits sail up, guns shining, cannonballs probably polished. Vernon decides to land at Boca Chica, the narrow entrance to Cartagena. Spanish say: “Cool, we built a fort here, called Fort San Felipe, and it’s basically a brick-wall nightmare.”

Phase 2: The Siege That Isn’t
British try to blast the fort into submission. They’ve got cannons bigger than Blas de Lezo’s entire skeleton. But… oops. Spanish walls + expert placement + tropical storms = cannonballs mostly hitting the sand or missing completely. Vernon’s army is cooking in the Caribbean sun, sweating like a recruit in boot camp, while Spanish defenders are basically chilling and repairing walls between sips of rum.

Phase 3: Disease, Disasters, and Desertions

Yellow fever and dysentery show up like uninvited guests, killing thousands of British soldiers.

Supplies are late. Boats get lost. Ships run aground. Vernon probably spends half his time writing letters whining to London.

Morale: negative infinity. Soldiers mutter things like “Why the hell did we leave England for this?”

Phase 4: Blas De Lezo Flex

The Spanish general Lezo moves like a chess grandmaster.

Counterattacks? Easy. Hit-and-run raids? Yep. British army starts looking like a clown car of chaos.

Vernon finally realizes sending 27,000 men against 6,000 Spaniards behind walls isn’t a guaranteed win.

Phase 5: The British Retreat

1/4 dead.

Spanish win.
Anonymous No.64398953 [Report]
>>64396585
>linking your own thread
Anonymous No.64398972 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
By being the strongest race.
Anonymous No.64398994 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
I don't think anyone legit knows what the fuck happened during that time. Maybe the Spaniards just came with heavy cloth and got camped at the beachhead.
Anonymous No.64399084 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
By being hopped up on shrooms. Unironically.
Anonymous No.64399183 [Report]
>>64398755
I'd love to see the LLM prompt for this.
Anonymous No.64399186 [Report] >>64399200 >>64405720
I find it extremely hard to believe that the Spanish used to be a global great power.
Anonymous No.64399198 [Report] >>64399215
>Latinxirs appropriating our history.

Lmao fuck off Temu Spaniards. Besides the Battle of Mactan is celebrated on April AND we also celebrate Magellan bringing Catholicism here.
Anonymous No.64399200 [Report] >>64399916
>>64399186
It’s entirely because they lucked out in betting a retarded Italian who couldn’t do math might stumble on something half worth it. Columbus was told to fuck off by the Portuguese when he first pitched his idea mostly because they looked over his calculations for reaching India. He was off by about 30% on his guess of the size of the world or something like that, and any scholar would have known it since the Greeks had done calculations centuries earlier of the size of the Earth using trigonometry.

The New World and most importantly the Incan silver mines are what catapulted a unified Spain into great power status in Europe.
Anonymous No.64399215 [Report]
>>64399198
maligayang pasko anon
Anonymous No.64399217 [Report]
In Puerto Rico, they know how to use their environment.
Anonymous No.64399221 [Report]
>>64396568
Philippines' bottleneck wasn't technology, but infrastructure, leading to something similar to the Maori where indigenous warfare and tactics was mixed with then-modern weapons. Funnily, the Flips had adopted cannons and gunpowder before the Japanese.
Anonymous No.64399224 [Report] >>64399230 >>64401845
>>64396556 (OP)
does /k/ know anything about flippos besides the usual 4chan archetypes
Anonymous No.64399230 [Report] >>64399244
>>64399224
unlike Amerindians who are all mutted up, SEAmonkeys are extremely pure.
Anonymous No.64399244 [Report]
>>64399230
pure swag
Anonymous No.64399259 [Report]
Konichiwa, dude!
Yee-haw!
Anonymous No.64399275 [Report]
I can dig up some accounts of how scary arrows were from the Injuns if you want. Might be boomercore style fuddlore but it's from the Spaniards/colonials own words.

It's not the whole story but part of why those comanche savages could do whatever they wanted until colt comes along.
Anonymous No.64399299 [Report]
>>64396568
Why are you on a weapons board if you don't know shit about weapons
Anonymous No.64399310 [Report] >>64399326 >>64401197
>>64396556 (OP)
The Philippines was part of the Old World so steel, gunpowder, didn't exactly scare off the native tribes as they had all of those. Sure Spanish armor & guns were better, but in the 1500s & 1600s, a time when transporting huge forces across oceans was not possible AND when most Spaniards were fine with settling in America AND when Europeans died like flies from tropical Asian diseases, there were too few Spaniards & willing to travel, live & stay in the Philippines to make a pure military conquest of the Islands possible. Hence diplomacy by the Friars did the heavy lifting in Spanish Colonial efforts as Spanish Catholic priests negotiated with weaker tribes & converted/united enough of them under the Spanish banner to make colonialism possible.

Then there was also logistics. European swords were made by blacksmiths steeped in European swordsmithing traditions and (most importantly) European plate armor needed a lot of skilled work & infrastructure to repair and these were skills & infrastructure that simply wasn't fucking present in the Philippines. All the European trained blacksmiths and armorers are in fucking Latin America and too few if not 0 of em were willing to live in the Philippines, the furthest & most dangerous colony of Spain's. Logistically this meant that any piece of sophiticated armor or weaponry brought from Europe would eventually degrade over use in the Philippines with precious little resources to repair them. In addition to other factors like the climate & small scale local warfare, these led the Spaniards to armor-down: wearing only breastplates/helmets, chainmail shirts (easily repairable), and more interestingly: used whatever local gear available like Sino-Japanese weapons & armor and Aztec Quilted armor (that was actually good for the shitty tropical climate).

The Spanish Soldier in the Philippines was less the glittering Tercio of continental Spain and more like some lightly armored RPG character with mishmash arms & armor.
Anonymous No.64399326 [Report] >>64399885 >>64399914
>>64399310
General public seem to oft-forget that the old powers really were focused on the whole civilizing mission which, as it turns out, worked better with smooth-talking clergy over Juan dela Murder screaming about God while smiting 50000 loinclothed manlets in one swing.

Except the Dutch. Those guys were fucked up.
Anonymous No.64399441 [Report] >>64405632 >>64405783
>>64398391
>Incas had a more advanced society than any African nation while lacking the wheel and metallurgy.

More than Ethiopia and the Swahili Coast? Lmao, no.
Anonymous No.64399448 [Report]
>>64397014
Like shucking an oyster for flaterlanders.
Anonymous No.64399468 [Report] >>64399853 >>64401044 >>64405550
>>64396556 (OP)
There were parts of the Philippines that were never colonized by the Spaniards even after 300 years.

They were successfully fought off primarily due to terrain/skill and primarily used pic rel. I wont go into genetics, but they were taller and more muscular compared to regular filipinos due to diet and hunting.
Anonymous No.64399842 [Report]
>>64397943
>racists
Post your gun with timestamp outsider.
Anonymous No.64399849 [Report]
>>64398337
>>64396568
straight up embarassing
Anonymous No.64399853 [Report]
>>64399468
based
Anonymous No.64399875 [Report] >>64400053
>>64396556 (OP)
Ambush tactics, which is considerably easier to achieve when you're on home turf. But really this amounts to an act of resistance rather than a strategy to avoid being dominated by superior force.

> taller and more muscular
This really doesn't count for shit when your enemy has guns. Successful resistance to colonisation general comes from political organization.
Anonymous No.64399882 [Report]
>>64397048
I'd tell you to take your meds, but there's not pill for ignorance.
Anonymous No.64399885 [Report] >>64401684 >>64405640
>>64399326
>Except the Dutch. Those guys were fucked up.
Not sure what you're talking about (unless you mean Belgian Congo, which was a French/German affair), but Dutch colonial policy was a result of us simply not having the numbers to do "proper" colonization. So we were stuck with keeping the local princes in charge and making them do what we told them, which isn't conductive to large scale Christianization and Westernization.
(and they deserved it anyway)
Anonymous No.64399914 [Report]
>>64399326
>oft-forget
Anonymous No.64399916 [Report] >>64399997
>>64399200
they would have always been a power in Europe due to their size and population.
but getting the first pick of the Americas made them a true global power. only for them to then start squandering most of it on the 30 year and above all 80 year wars.
if anything the greatest contribution Spain made to the rest of the world was teaching the rest of us how not to run and ruin an economy.
something that probably wouldn't have happened if Charles V hadn't dismissed all his Flemish advisors because some catalans got pissed. because unlike the people that insist on placing a guy taking a dump in their nativity scenes the Flemish did know how to run an economy.
Anonymous No.64399997 [Report] >>64405927
>>64399916
By the time Charles V became king, Spain was already the strongest and richest state in Europe, controlling also south Italy, Sardinia, and Sicily. The conquest of the Americas was ongoing and everything seemed peachy.

It took spaniards 700 years to recover from the misrule of germoid visigoths, but then they made the fatal mistake of giving the crown to fucking germoid Habsburgs who didn't even speak spanish or cared about Spain, and were retarded even before being visibly inbred. So the nascent Spanish Empire civic and economic institutions were dismantled for a centralized machine to fuel riches into useless Habsburg wars for worthless wastelands and stupid religious feuds.
Meanwhile Spain itself became impoverished and fell behind.

If the Castillian revolt against Charles V had been succesful and a real spanish dinasty ruled the Empire, things would have been very different.
Anonymous No.64400053 [Report]
>>64399875
>Successful resistance to colonisation general comes from political organization.
Worked for them for 300 years. Rough Terrain as a force multiplier can be a deciding factor.

The only political organization were normally warring tribes joining forces in 1601 deciding to crush the invading Spaniards. There was never a large Spaniard push after the defeat.
Anonymous No.64400241 [Report] >>64400558 >>64401052
>>64397943
Why the fuck do you think zebras can’t be domesticated? Not to mention the plethora of other mammals living in Africa?
What’s the mechanism preventing it?
Anonymous No.64400256 [Report] >>64400269 >>64400286 >>64400293 >>64401537 >>64405788
>>64396611
Why didn't the conquistadors die to the natives diseases?
Anonymous No.64400269 [Report]
>>64400256
because the new world germs werent half as dangerous as the ones that the conquistadors had been living with

thats also why SEA was not reduced to mad max tier society by the europeans, they had already been introduced to and survived contact with the highly urbanized chinese
Anonymous No.64400286 [Report] >>64400293
>>64400256
They did, but way less because europeans had already developed better resistance after millenia of exposure to diseases cooked in big population centers across eurasia.
Since most native americans died of foreign diseases without never have been in contact to conquistadors and settlers, these were also less exposed.

Syphilis was the only significant american disease that had an impact in Europe, and that was probably because it was slow and easily hidden at first, so infected people was able to travel back without dying of fever in route.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbian_exchange#Of_diseases
Anonymous No.64400293 [Report] >>64405658
>>64400286
>>64400256
on that note, europeans visiting the tropics do experience a high casualty rate to diseases

malaria and yellow fever are frequently brought up as the main things to watch out for when visiting, things the locals are accustomed to
Anonymous No.64400321 [Report] >>64400574
>>64397943
The amount of seethe it causes here does rather suggest it’s probably true
Anonymous No.64400558 [Report] >>64401052 >>64405861
>>64400241
It just doesn't work.

https://thomsonsafaris.com/blog/taming-zebras-domestication-attempts/
Anonymous No.64400567 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
they used psy war techniques, namely showing their naked bodies making the spaniards confused and bothered, it didnt work as well on the samurai mercenaries tho
Anonymous No.64400574 [Report]
>>64400321
That's a retarded line of thought.
Anonymous No.64401001 [Report]
>>64396694
>GGS
I remembered why I stopped visiting this board. You gorilla niggers are actually the stupidest people on this website and that’s saying something.
Anonymous No.64401041 [Report] >>64401046 >>64401090 >>64401269 >>64405865
>come back hours later
>still seething
as I said, GGS is flawed, but it's hilarious how it triggers people wrapping in mental gymnastics their biases.
Who knew that stating a simple platitude like "natural environtments shape human cultures and their success" could cause so much seethe
Anonymous No.64401044 [Report]
>>64399468
Igorot?
Anonymous No.64401046 [Report]
>>64401041
Being stupid annoys people, fancy that.
Anonymous No.64401052 [Report]
>>64400241
>>64400558
We already domesticated an African equine, they're called donkeys.
Anonymous No.64401090 [Report] >>64401313
>>64401041
It’s a simple premise burdened by a “muh raycissm” lens that distorts the author’s interpretation of facts and leaves out inconveniences to further his point. It’s an ineffective work.
Anonymous No.64401094 [Report] >>64401238
>>64396640
>have
So they didn't discover it and traded for the weapons like the burger Indians.
Anonymous No.64401103 [Report] >>64401313 >>64402844 >>64404889 >>64405084
>>64397880
>Can't domesticate zebra
I think the bigger problem with the "beasts of burden" argument is that there is a shit load of different species in Africa. We can argue about whether or not it's hypothetically possible to domestic zebra, but why stop at just zebra/

Africa has native oxen, cattle, pigs, sheep, goats, there's pretty an analog much every farm animal except horses. In fact, some of them were domesticated, African cattle cultures go back thousands of years. And yet significant civilization never appeared, for the most part, and the ones that did never made it even close to the sophistication of European or even North African and Middle Eastern culture.
Anonymous No.64401197 [Report] >>64401228 >>64405550
>>64399310
Considering how the Luzones from Luzon Island, Philippines; were able to even dislodge the Portuguese and Johoreans from Malacca and return the former Sultan to Power...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzones

>And it was written in Gaspar Correia's, Lendas da Índia (Acad. das Ciências de Lisboa, 1858–64) Vol. 1, pp. 312–318 (Livro III, cap. LV) Malacca restoration (1526):

"When the Sultan of Malacca fled, he took refuge with a Luções chieftain; fifty Lução ships then returned him to power, fighting their way through Johor’s blockade."

...When Filipino Luzones were even able to massacre the Portuguese and restore the Malaccan Sultan, who had the same technology as the Spaniards...

...And it's Malacca the world's most valuable trade artery!

"Whoever is Lord of Malacca has his Hand on the throat of Venice"?

~Tome Pires

It's chump change for them, specifically Lapu-Lapu's men, to kill Ferdinand Magellan. What really won the Philippines for Spain was not the outnumbered Spanish soldiers some were even not full Spaniards but a bunch of Mexican teenagers; but rather, Spanish priests who shrewdly applied diplomacy and used the Hindu Kingdoms against the Muslim Kingdoms vs the Animist Kingdoms of the Philippines and etc. and made these internal divisions a recruitement crowd to conquer the archipelago.

Had Spain not have native allies; it would be another massacre like how the Cebuanos massacred Ferdinand Magellan's fleet, or how Luzones massacred the Portuguese and Johoreans and briefly restored the Sultan of Malacca to power. People keep on romanticizing isolated Japan or Korea as great warriors but even greater feats were done in Southeast Asia.
Anonymous No.64401223 [Report] >>64401285
>>64396556 (OP)
With a club and a numerical advantage.
Clubs still work against modern body armor as well.
Also the pic is so ridculous, those seamonkeys couldnt make any type of metal
Anonymous No.64401228 [Report] >>64401266
>>64401197
That's a whole lot of chest-thumping just to admit you got colonized anyway. (Only Japan and Thailand managed to resist this, btw.)
Anonymous No.64401237 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
No because they are 5,5 manlets
Anonymous No.64401238 [Report]
>>64401094
No, they forged the metal cannons themselves. Panday Piray was an indigenous cannon maker the Spanish themselves hired after the conquest of Manila. Before Spain came, Manila was a fortress city described as protected by hundreds of cannons and artilery pieces forged by local Filipino blacksmiths and gunsmiths. Why do people keep on thinking that Filipinos are Ooga Booga, when they even fucking defeated the Portuguese (Luzones in Malacca) and briefly restored a Malaccan Sultan to power?
Anonymous No.64401240 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
Gaps in between the armor. There's plenty of records showing armored spaniards getting killed during the siege of Tenochtitlan per example.
Anonymous No.64401266 [Report] >>64401420 >>64401489 >>64405876
>>64401228
Nobody is fucking interested in conquering Japan, an isolated country with zero natural resources. People conquer valuable nations. They got scot free simply because they were ignored.

Thailand also got scot free merely because Britain and France decided they would be a buffer state.

This is evidenced by the fact. That Burma which was more powerful than Thailand invaded and raped Thailand so many times and Thailand never counter invaded but Burma fell to Britain. Likewise all the losers of the wars in the Korean peninsula merely fled to Japan like the losers of the Baekje-Gogoryeo wars.

Both nations and overhyped trash.
Anonymous No.64401269 [Report] >>64401313
>>64401041
Organization and leadership matter more than geography and resources.
Anonymous No.64401276 [Report]
I don't think spaniards typically ran around in full plate armor while sailing around the world but maybe I'm wrong

Also I thought magellan got taken out by a ranged weapon of some kind, a spear or an arrow?
Anonymous No.64401285 [Report]
>>64401223
Have ignoring all my posts? God you're so dumb. A SEAmonkey nation. The Civilzation of Cambodia built the Medieval World's largest City, Angkor Wat. And as I already said, there were already metal smiths and cannon makers in the Philippines before Spain arrived, in fact, archeological records show gunpowder was used earlier in Southeast Asia than in Europe as nearby China invented it. God why are Americans so fucking uneducated?
Anonymous No.64401313 [Report] >>64401378 >>64401417 >>64405957
>>64401090
The author cherry picked and twisted the hell out of his examples and narrative. It's a example of bad scholarship masquerading as a pop science book.
But the basic premise is still sound and I hope one day serious antropologists can retake the idea and leave behind their "muh evil whites" mindset.
>>64401103
What people miss about sub saharan Africa and civilization, it's that the later needs a reason to exist. With strong natural borders, and so much megafauna and edible plants around, there was little motivation and critical mass to create the city states that spawned the big classical civilizations.

Consider how humans practiced the same hunter gatherer lifestyle for tens of thousans of years with little changes. Consider also how other ethnic groups like proto-indoeropeans, steppe nomads, or "celts" were realtively culturally static until their contact with actual big city builders within recorded history. Or how NA native americans became mad max horse tribesmen and left behind their cities after the diseases that destroyed them.

It wasn't a linear progression, but a competition driven evolution with many twists. And blacks, like abbos, just didn't had the need or the pressure to make it happen until it was too late to catch up by themselves.
>>64401269
Organization and leadership are the product of geography and resources. And a excess of resources can be also an issue that hinders progress.
Anonymous No.64401378 [Report] >>64401424
>>64401313
>Organization and leadership are the product of geography and resources. And a excess of resources can be also an issue that hinders progress.
Mongol horde was brought up in a wasteland and Genghis Khan lead it to conquering the eastern world, after he died it downtrended into collapse. Some people are just great and build great things is how I see it. Not to say a civilization is completely raised on its leader but it’s a pretty major part. Autocracies for example tend to succeed to some degree or collapse under corruption with little in between.
Anonymous No.64401417 [Report] >>64401440 >>64405686
>>64401313
>It wasn't a linear progression, but a competition driven evolution with many twists. And blacks, like abbos, just didn't had the need or the pressure to make it happen until it was too late to catch up by themselves.

That’s ridiculous,the Sahel was a war zone between the Berbers and Black peoples for thousands of years.even the romans talked about it
Anonymous No.64401420 [Report] >>64401525
>>64401266
>MUH WARRIOR ETHOS
>loses
Okay, thurdie.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Anonymous No.64401424 [Report]
>>64401378
>Mongol horde was brought up in a wasteland and Genghis Khan lead it to conquering the eastern world,
So did the scandinavians with their vikings, germanic goths, etc.
They had just enough resources to maintain their tribal warfare but not enough to grow beyond it, or ran away anymore. So eventually strongmen unified them enough to raid their neighbours.
Compare them to the "celts", who didn't have the same pressures and had reached a development plateau until the romans invaded them.
Anonymous No.64401440 [Report]
>>64401417
"blacks" is obviously a simplification. There were tons of very different subgroups. East inner africans had litltle in common with the coastal Ethiopians that even were featured in the Illiad (yes, there a black king in the Illiad helping the Trojans)
Anonymous No.64401489 [Report]
>>64401266
Futhermore the Portguese who visited both Japan and the Philippines said that Filipinos were more skilled warriors than the Japanese.

>The Luzones had military and commercial interests mainly across Southeast Asia with some minor reach in East Asia and South Asia, so much so that the Portuguese soldier Joao de Barros considered the Luções who were militarily and commercially active across the region, "the most warlike and valiant of these parts."

>~The Mediterranean Connection by William Henry Scott Page 138 (Published By: Ateneo de Manila University) Taken from "Translated in Teixera, The Portuguese Missions, p. 166."

...Both Japanese and Filipinos were hired as Royal Guards in Thailand.

>La Loubère, a French diplomat from the court of Louis XIV, recorded that the royal house of Ayutthaya employed 600 Japanese samurais as the royal guard corps.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_migration_to_Thailand

Diogo do Couto wrote in, Décadas da Ásia (Lisbon, 1778) Vol. 5, pp. 95–100 (Década VIII, Livro II, cap. V) Siam (1547); this of them:

Under their chief Balagtas, 300 Luções fought for the King of Siam against Burmese invaders—so effective that the Siamese granted them land.

The fact that the Siamese ennobled the Luções by granting them royal land and that Luções military and trade activity reached as far as Sri Lanka in South Asia where Lungshanoid pottery made in Luzon were discovered in burials[27] is proof that the Luções formed a long range geographic network applying soft power among the many nations the Philippines traded and worked with.
Anonymous No.64401525 [Report] >>64401641
>>64401420
>Japan
> Consistent Refugee center of losers from Korean Wars
> Never Invaded since it's too isolated and resource less
> Somehow = Winner

> Philippines
> Luzones Conquer Malacca from Portuguese
> Sulu conquers Kalimantan from Indonesia
> Madja-as conquers Odtojonan from Brunei
> = Losers just because they then got colonized

Japanese edumucation people

That's like saying a Boxer who has 3-0 Win loss ratio is a better boxer to anotther boxer of 90-10 win loss ratio, just because he has no losses when the later is clearly superior. Go die on a hill Weeb.
Anonymous No.64401537 [Report]
>>64400256
It's believed that syphilis came from the americas, but all sorts of horrific diseases took their share of conquistadors. even without malaria, there have been cases of modern archeologists getting illnesses where their lips and nose would rot off without modern anti bacterial drugs.
Anonymous No.64401641 [Report] >>64401720
>>64401525
Oh lordy, he just keeps on doing it.
But I guess I shouldn't fault a defeated people from having to reach back so far just to get past the unbroken string of Ls you pagpag eaters have accrued.
Takes your mind off not having the means to defend your own fishermen from soulless chinkoids, doesn't it?

Imagine having a coast guard with less ships than the fingers on one hand, all because your generals and politicians would rather buy themselves Ferraris LMAO.
Anonymous No.64401642 [Report] >>64401677 >>64404889
>>64397880
The claim isn't that they couldn't farm, it's that they could only subsistence farm.
Anonymous No.64401655 [Report]
>>64397951
"If"
Anonymous No.64401677 [Report]
>>64401642
Subsistence farming simply means farming just enough to eat and often is a less disciplined kind of agriculture. Meanwhile the South Americans were actually farming to the point of trade surplus and they had to deal with jungles, diseases and no real livestock until Spain brought beasts of burden.
Anonymous No.64401684 [Report] >>64405686
>>64399885
Belgian Congo was the same. The locals were savaged who took advantage of the situation they were in.
Anonymous No.64401720 [Report] >>64401902
>>64401641
Blah blah blah why do you Japanese look down on Filipinos when you need us more than we need you? We could live perfectly fine without you but you need the Philippines to as a trading partner to rescue you from your collosal 250% Debt to GDP ratio and likewise, all the oil and trade from the ships going from mainland Asia and the Indian Ocean passes by the Philippines on the way to Japan. We get defeated because we actually fight and interact with our surroundings; whereas your sheltered asses were known as navel staring "hermit kingdoms" for most of your history. Sorry not sorry. Please have sex you nation of debt-slave incels.
Anonymous No.64401845 [Report]
>>64399224
Uhhh
They're the most powerful race in the world
They have their own funny version of khyber pass
They're a south american country in all but location
And they beat the taliban's ass in 2016(?)
Anonymous No.64401902 [Report] >>64401984
>>64401720
Sure, right after you beg for another couple hundred thousand dollars (1 trillion pesos) worth of gibs.
Oh wait, I forgot that that's on hold because of the latest chimpout of corruption and instability you guys got over there.
No wonder every Filipino wants to go abroad.
Anonymous No.64401984 [Report]
>>64401902
What Gibs? Most Development Aid Japan sends to the Philippines are loans on proft. You get repaid with interest. Also chimpout on corruption? Because our free media exposes corruption and broadcasts it to the public that's why there's national condemnation of it vs what happens in Vietnam or China wherein Corruption is rampant that there bribery in the airport but nobody talks about it since the Communist part censors everything and everyone pretends that they are less corrupt than us but the fact that it's the opposite.
Anonymous No.64402654 [Report]
Say whatever you will about flips, they aren't fucking insufferable faggots trying to get white people to accept them as white.
An oriental's worth is based on how slutty, submissive and pleasing their women are, and as such Flips win this fight.
But both are inferior to Vietnamese. The quintessential semen demon.
Anonymous No.64402664 [Report]
Antonio Pigafetta explains this
Anonymous No.64402832 [Report] >>64404308
>>64396556 (OP)
A bunch of fat Mexicans beat "the greatest army in the world"
Anonymous No.64402844 [Report] >>64404758
>>64401103
>except horses
They did actually have horses
>And yet significant civilization never appeared, for the most part
you're an ingorant nigger if you actually believe that, which is the origin of this entire problem. Neither Jared Diamond, nor anyone itt actually knows anything about African history, and are just going off of stereotypes. When you don't have a picture of the actual facts, and the person you're arguing with doesn't either, it's impossible for there to be an actual resolution to your disagreement.
Anonymous No.64403221 [Report]
Dont you niggers read?
His venetian buttbuddy lays out that they aimed at their legs with lances in his book
Anonymous No.64403493 [Report] >>64405721
>>64396569
>>64396694
grim that subhumans like you have access to the internet
Anonymous No.64404308 [Report] >>64404941
>>64402832
Mexicans used to rule the Philippines. The Viceroyalty of New Spain who's capital was Mexico ruled the Philippines for 300 years before direct Spanish rule over the islands.
Anonymous No.64404758 [Report] >>64405341 >>64405750
>>64402844
let's see those facts then instead of crying, communist nigger
Anonymous No.64404768 [Report] >>64405097
>call them seamonkes
>they massacred a bunch of seafaring wypipo with knives
>had access to rudimentary gunpowder tech
>were expert sailors with some reaching as far as madagascar
Anonymous No.64404889 [Report]
>>64397925
>so how did the zulus make spears?
By smelting Iron, same as all Bantu cultures. Ironworking was literally one of the propulsive forces that drove the proto-Bantus out to conquer almost the entire SubSaharan portion of the continent.

>>64401642
>it's that they could only subsistence farm.
The fact that they had enough spare labor to develop an Iron culture says otherwise.

>>64401103
>significant civilization never appeared
Eh, it actually did in a lot of places.
Anonymous No.64404908 [Report] >>64404941
>Why was a nation of thousands of jungle islands filled with natives that had gunpowder and a notorious reputation for knife fighting so hard to conquer for an army from the other side of the world?
The Philippines are the Afghanistan of the Pacific. A far off, logistically challenging, nation comprised of thousands of islands, rugged mountains, and dense jungle, populated by fiercely nationalistic people renowned for their knife fighting skills and hellacious diseases such as malaria and dengue fever. Everyone has tried to invade them. Nobody ever keeps them.
Anonymous No.64404941 [Report] >>64404994
>>64404308
Actual Manolos don't even know they had a colony in Asia much less give a shit and here you have Pablo we wuzzing about a faraway outpost administered solely by Spaniards and not Mexicans.

Mexicans, other Latinx Americans and criollos were lower ranked administrators and foot soldiers for the Spanish elite.

>>64404908
>The Philippines are the Afghanistan of the Pacific.
Unlike Afganistan who beat all of its invaders the Philippines is the inverse with how the Spaniards, Americans and even Japanese lorded over them; they're more closely related to Poland than Afganistan.

Asia's Afganistan is Vietnam.
Anonymous No.64404994 [Report]
>>64404941
>Afganistan who beat all of its invaders
You have no idea how wrong you are. Sakas, Persians, Greeks, Sakas again, the Yuezhi, the Hunas, Turks, Mongols, more Turks, they all dominated Afghanistan for hundreds of years at a time, controlling very profitable trade routes. Afghanistan didn't have native rule until the 18th Century, when the age of sail marginalized the land routes.
Anonymous No.64405067 [Report] >>64405721
>>64396694
Go kill yourself Jared
Anonymous No.64405084 [Report]
>>64401103
There have been plenty of African civs. They vary wildly in development and social structures. Most of the "civilizations" with these accomplishments in Africa were in proto stages. The more developed kingdoms were literally targeted for centuries by interested foreign powers seeking to weaken them. Doesn't mean they would have developed some space age civ, but it does impact their progress by stopping development
Anonymous No.64405097 [Report]
>>64404768
People call them monkeys because they are kinda ugly and short
Anonymous No.64405125 [Report] >>64405586
>>64396706
Not to mention that the Spanish expedition Magellan led rowed in and waded ashore, exhausting them before they ended up facing greater numbers of enemies. Furrher, a reef prevented the guns and crossbows from getting close enough to get a real advantage against the shitty native armor and shields, so the Europeans lost almost every meaningful tactical advantage. That they fought on for, like, an hour despite all this is impressive, though.
Anonymous No.64405341 [Report] >>64405371 >>64405398 >>64405741 >>64405901
>>64404758
NTA but don't look up mansa musa. Or the zulu empire. Or the Ethiopian kingdoms.
Anonymous No.64405371 [Report]
>>64405341
>mansa musa
the biggest afronigger meme out there, lmao
Anonymous No.64405398 [Report] >>64405427
>>64405341
Great Mutapa and Zimbabwe as well. People just forget that the continent is not tribal savages because a lot of the archeological evidence decayed over time. It’s like saying the proto-Germanics or the very ancient britons didn’t have large settlements and were a bunch of savages living in huts - they weren’t. We have evidence of large scale settlements across Europe, and I’m pretty sure if we started to look in Africa in various places we’d find similar ancient settlement sites, but that’s the thing about archeology in sub Saharan Africa, so many structures were built out of decaying material that it becomes hard to find these places. And it isn’t like they didn’t work with stone either - there’s sites we’ve found with earthworks and stone across west and Southern Africa.

I think the main issue is money and the political situation in many African countries. It isn’t as attractive funding wise to start looking for dig sites in Africa and when countries aren’t as stable the risk of kidnappings of foreign scientists rises considerably.
Anonymous No.64405427 [Report] >>64405518 >>64405766
>>64405398
>we wuz civilized, i promise
>any evidence just uhhh, decayed
Anonymous No.64405517 [Report]
>>64396588
Shut the fuck up

t. Anglo by the way
Anonymous No.64405518 [Report] >>64405529 >>64405593 >>64405907
>>64405427
Nigger, this is a known problem in searching for ancient settlements because most of the time people all over the world, what do they use for construction of their dwelling? Wood. Grass. Hide. All that shit decays over time. What physical evidence we have that’s more permanent shows that they worked metals with skill, and carved stone as did everyone else. They had stone working, pottery, skilled metalworking, and agricultural systems capable of creating a surplus. And we DO have various stone structures like the great Zimbabwe.

So why do we not get big stone cities? One of the simplest explanations is that stone was not a favored material for building with. Stone is heavy, it takes time to carve and cut into shape, and requires a lot of spare labor to move and ship from quarries to other areas. Compare that to wood. Much easier to cut, shape, and work, it’s all over plenty of areas, which means it’s cheaper too. Why not just use wood then? Pretty much every ancient society did this. Stumbling on ancient dwelling sites are often matters of luck. Plenty we know are going to be buried under modern cities too, making things trickier.

You fucking stupid nigger.
Anonymous No.64405521 [Report]
>>64396603
>shitty firearms

You take that back, matchlocks are cook too
Anonymous No.64405526 [Report]
>>64396649
>>64396665
Your rebuttals of “they suck at fighting” is “they are retarded lemmings”. Doesn’t help their case much. There were less than 200 Spaniards and they killed 3,000 and captured another 7,000. Even completely unarmed how do you let every man kill more than 10 in hand to hand combat without fleeing? Without getting makeshift weapons?
>Also note literally thousands were killed trying to keep the the King's throne off the ground
That’s even dumber than being killed by Spanish soldiers. That’s pajeet in railroad tracks retarded.
Anonymous No.64405529 [Report] >>64405601 >>64405766
>>64405518
We find ancient cities under the ruins of modern cities all the time. Foundations need to be stone for any proper buildings bigger than huts to exist.
Anonymous No.64405550 [Report]
>>64396706
>>64397407
>>64399468
>>64401197
Absolutely seething Indonesian Muslim
Anonymous No.64405586 [Report] >>64405772
>>64405125
>he doesn't know that Polynesians literally engineered reefs to prevent shore assaults
Anonymous No.64405593 [Report] >>64405601 >>64405655
>>64405518
>nooo, you see it just decayed, it was there i promise!
>we anti-racists must try harder to find anything that could possible prove this
Anonymous No.64405601 [Report] >>64405675
>>64405529
You can get quite big sized buildings with wood without a stone foundation at all. And yes, we find parts of ancient settlements under modern ones all the time, because what makes a site appealing for a city 300 years ago often is similar to that 3000 years ago.

The question then starts to become what’s being dug up and where, and if those excavating for building projects even know what they’re digging up. It wasn’t uncommon until the modern era to bust up excavated stone structures for repurposed building material, for gravel for roads, or for more intricate goods to be kept around as trinkets. There’s also the excavation of midden heaps and such that comes from long term inhabitation, if you’re not looking for it or know what you’re looking at, it just seems like garbage in the ground, and is going to be tossed aside and forgotten about. Hell, a lot of the mounds around Cahokia and other cities along the Mississippi were destroyed by farmers and their contents just ditched into either the river or buried somewhere else without any care to preserve shit. It’s fucking wild what’s been lost because of careless construction crews over the decades, or gets brought home and forgotten about because it looked neat.

>>64405593
It isn’t being anti racist it’s called being thorough and looking for shit in places we haven’t looked yet and revisiting old surveys to see if someone stumbled on something. You fucking nigger.
Anonymous No.64405632 [Report] >>64405638
>>64399441
Horn of Africa arent Bantus and were connected to the indian ocean trade network. Everyone knows they are not the same as real nigs. Not that they are great.

Also the incas were at least on par with Ethiopia. They read stars, had a lunar calendar. Pretty complex bureaucracy. Had roads and bridges all along the Andes that were centrally maintained.
Anonymous No.64405638 [Report] >>64405708
>>64405632
Swahili Coast has more ruins and they are bantus you dumb fuck
Anonymous No.64405639 [Report]
>>64397943
>seethe
It’s not seething when you can someone out for being retarded when they are demonstrably wrong. It’s calling a retard a retard, you retard.
Anonymous No.64405640 [Report] >>64405779
>>64399885
We genocided all 15000 inhabitants of Ambon so we could have nutmeg, Pieter. Coen wasnt fucking around. He wanted those spices. And damn if nutmeg isnt tasty on Brussel sprouts. Totally worth it.
Anonymous No.64405655 [Report] >>64405667
>>64405593
>>nooo, you see it just decayed, it was there i promise!

some didn't

https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1225
Anonymous No.64405658 [Report]
>>64400293
>things the locals are accustomed to dying from
Ftfy
Anonymous No.64405667 [Report] >>64405780
>>64405655
wow, two shacks with some rocks as foundations, truly the pinnacle of african civilization!
Anonymous No.64405675 [Report]
>>64405601
>It isn’t being anti racist it’s called being thorough and looking for shit in places we haven’t looked yet
it's the white man's burden to fake and falsify the existence of culture and civilization among subhumans that have time and time again proven they have none
Anonymous No.64405686 [Report]
>>64401417
It still is today,with some Russian mercenaries thrown in these days. See Mali.

>>64401684
The hand cutting was done by niggers in the Force Publique. They had to justify ammo expenditure. But they used bullets to hunt, so they cut off hands to claim they killed escaped slaves.
Anonymous No.64405699 [Report]
>>64398685
Good for them, frankly. The Mexican Indigenista LARP that has been tricking out of Mexico especially as of late is just embarrassing
Anonymous No.64405702 [Report]
>>64398685
Tell that to all those fags who say shit like "Western culture" and aren't talking about cowboys and six guns.
Anonymous No.64405708 [Report] >>64405744 >>64405745
>>64405638
You mean zanzibar? Lmao that was all arabs building it to supply their slave trade.
Anonymous No.64405720 [Report]
>>64399186
"I'm a stupid cuck". Ok. America only gets away with it because of virtually infinite resources.
It's very easy to study how and why they did what they did. Try reading a book.
Anonymous No.64405721 [Report] >>64405910
>>64403493
>>64405067
Cry baby, cry. You grub eaters lose to the cargo cult every time. Go back to worshipping the bones of your ancestors and a rock and a bush, heathens.
Anonymous No.64405726 [Report] >>64405744
>>64397943
>You can't, retard
Niggers can’t. Whites can. You’re too dumb to realize that modern cattle come from Aurochs. They are equally as large and ill tempered as Cape buffalo. The myth of the Minotaur comes from Aurochs being so dangerous and mean. And we made them into the docile modern cow.

The silver fox experiment in Russia also proves you wrong over a few short decades. Let alone thousands of years of animal husbandry.

You are brown.
Anonymous No.64405741 [Report]
>>64405341
Don't forget Wakanda.
Anonymous No.64405744 [Report] >>64405929
>>64405708
We have evidence of large scale inhabitation around Dar Es Salaam dating to the Roman period and even earlier.
>>64405726
Horse domestication was attempted and failed about three times at least, and horses are easier to manage than zebras by far, even wild ones.
Anonymous No.64405745 [Report] >>64405753
>>64405708
lmao nope dna show it was built by half black afro perisan not arabs.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-05754-w
Anonymous No.64405750 [Report] >>64405931
>>64404758
not a communist, but whatever
firstly, African cultures did, in fact posses draft animals in the form of oxen. This can be attested to by the depictions of carts being pulled by said oxen from Tichitt cultural sites in Mauritania. Likewise, they domesticated pearl millet watermelons and other crops, which would go-on to spread into the near-east. When Jared Diamond is trying to explain away why Africans never developed these kinds of things, he's fundamentally coping with a problem that doesn't exist.
Secondly, complex, hierarchical civilizations did spring-up independently in Africa, primarily in the sahel region during the end of the African Humid Period. Before this, there were many Pastoral Neolithic cultures dwelling within the Sahara as it was mostly grasslands during the AHP, the aforementioned Tichitt culture being one of them. While these might not be considered civilizations per se (there's evidence for complex hierarchical societies and intensive agriculture during this period, but urbanization is more debatable) the end of the AHP would lead these pastoral cultures to migrate south, and this, along with the development of iron smelting ~800 b.c., would lay the foundations for the first urbanized city-states in West Africa. They would, in turn, be followed by the various West African empires starting from the first century AD and onward. It's a matter of fact that African civilizations formed independently, and neither geographical resources, nor the the fact that they were niggers prevented this from happening.
Anonymous No.64405753 [Report] >>64405805
>>64405745
The buildings have DNA now? Man I can claim the US south was built by niggers based on DNA findings. Doesnt mean they decided shit.
Anonymous No.64405766 [Report]
>>64405427
>>64405529
Largely true. The Stone Age, the Bronze Age, the Iron Age, the Industrial Age are all well documented. But "the Wood Age" is much harder to discern due to the inpermanence of the medium. There is much forgotten that shouldn't be.
Anonymous No.64405772 [Report] >>64405796
>>64405586
>they also had trained attack sharks patrolling the waters
So cool!
Anonymous No.64405779 [Report]
>>64405640
>And damn if nutmeg isnt tasty on Brussel sprouts. Totally worth it.
Based foodie genocider..
Anonymous No.64405780 [Report] >>64405800 >>64405807 >>64405949
>>64405667
One of the funniest self owns in modern shit flinging is when people so spoiled by modern society can't comprehend that humans (creatures known for adaptation) lived strikingly different lifestyle less than 300 years ago. They simply can't comprehend how rare modern society is and how simple things like excess calories drive most of innovation. They also for some reason claim to be infinitely knowledgeable about all types of humans while comparing the lifestyle of humans in one of the most welcoming biomes on the planet against ALL other biomes on the planet. This is even funnier when you realize that they simply can't comprehend societies are different and their various other structures around them will also differ. Perhaps the funniest of all these things is that arguably the most advanced society even to the modern era would be considered the Polynesians. A society which did not frequently use permanent building materials but still managed to reach South America before most Europeans could quantify its existence AND then bring back native plants from it for use to then spread in their literal Europe continent spanning size island empire.
Anonymous No.64405783 [Report]
>>64399441
Ethiopia is the exception that proves the rule
Anonymous No.64405788 [Report]
>>64400256
Euros aren’t weak manlets
Anonymous No.64405796 [Report] >>64405817
>>64405772
Did you know that most of the hunting grounds found in North America that lead Europeans to believe they found Eden were in fact man made runs engineered by natives? Does it surprise you that natives living for millenia in biomes might plant flora and fauna they used and knew in strategic locations? Hawaiians are quite literally famous for making fish farms.
Anonymous No.64405799 [Report] >>64405915 >>64405931
>>64396569
>Battle of Cajamarca
calling that a battle is extremely jewish, they just rounded up unarmed civilians and started killing them like nazis filling churches with civilians and burning them, i bet awstizch guards had insane kill ratios too
Anonymous No.64405800 [Report]
>>64405780
>Perhaps the funniest of all these things is that arguably the most advanced society even to the modern era would be considered the Polynesians
delusions born out of butthurt about backwards niggers
Anonymous No.64405802 [Report]
We can find stone age settlements from 5000 years ago in Eurasia that show even proto industrialization. Same thing in China, same thing in India, same thing in the middle east. We find similar things in South America. Even the more nomadic natives in North America left monuments everywhere. Even the Inuit in the Arctic circle have monuments or sacred meteoric iron sites. In Africa we find more homo sapiens remains than the remains of older civilizations.
Anonymous No.64405803 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oWV5_SYkys
Anonymous No.64405805 [Report]
>>64405753
these are from tombs of ruling class and kings you dumb fuck.

We also have arab like ibn butt talking about them and pictures of one

https://ia800906.us.archive.org/17/items/TheRehlaOfIbnBattuta/231448482-The-Rehla-of-Ibn-Battuta_text.pdf

>They are very black in color, and their women are of surpassing beauty. Their dress is made of fine cloths from India. Their food is rice, milk, fish, and fruits.
Anonymous No.64405807 [Report] >>64405834 >>64405919
>>64405780
>Polynesians. A society which did not frequently use permanent building materials but still managed to reach South America
Citation required.
Anonymous No.64405817 [Report] >>64405928
>>64405796
i'm sure this was real and actually happened outside of your liberal studies class
Anonymous No.64405834 [Report] >>64405879
>>64405807
nta, but I think he's referring to this paper:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8939867/
Anonymous No.64405861 [Report]
>>64400558
That’s regurgitated Jared Diamond’s bullshit. Attempts started in the late 1800s and it was given up because colonies went away a few decades later. It was a fad for rich folks, not a genuine attempt to domesticate. Especially when the only people trying are Europeans who already had bigger, stronger horses already domesticated.

Your article even notes successful attempts like zebra drawn carriages and
>But the dream of a domesticated zebra lives on. As recently as 2013, a teenager in Virginia, Shea Inman, attempted to train a zebra to bear a rider.
>Through extreme patience and rewards-based training, she’s managed some success, but she notes that even now, “Some days it’s like he’s been riding for 30 years and other days he acts like he’s never seen a human being
If some random horse girl in Virgina can ride a zebra they can be broken. It’s just not worth the effort.
Anonymous No.64405865 [Report]
>>64401041
>natural environtments shape human cultures and their success
That’s not what it says you fucking jew
Anonymous No.64405876 [Report] >>64405896
>>64401266
What type of slant eyed are you that you seethe so much at the japs?
Anonymous No.64405879 [Report] >>64405928 >>64405930
>>64405834
>Our analyses suggest strongly that a single contact event occurred in eastern Polynesia, prior to the settlement of Easter Island (Rapa Nui), between Polynesians and a Native American group most closely related to the indigenous inhabitants of present-day Colombia.
>dugout gets blown out to sea
>dudes get lucky find "dry land"
>take wives
I can accept that. Does not amount to a seafaring culture, though.
Anonymous No.64405885 [Report]
>>64397951
>southern Africa could literally feed everyone on Earth if it was utilized properly
Yeah the problem is that southern africa is full of blacks with a collective IQ of 17

>>64398755
>Admiral Edward Vernon, basically a man who thinks shouting “big ships, bigger guns” is a strategy
Most based bong
Anonymous No.64405896 [Report] >>64405912 >>64408632
>>64405876
It's basically that the Jamon phenotype of Japanese ancestry is considered white and all the other Asians are not.
Anonymous No.64405901 [Report]
>>64405341
Musa was nigger rich incarnate. The Zulu empire starting in the fucking 1810s. It conquered its neighbors using the advanced tactics of…steel spears and flanking. Wow. Impressive.
Anonymous No.64405907 [Report]
>>64405518
>great Zimbabwe
If the best you have is stone walls, that’s not much to brag about.
Anonymous No.64405910 [Report]
>>64405721
Not an argument. What shade of shit are you?
Anonymous No.64405912 [Report] >>64405917 >>64408632
>>64405896
>Jamon phenotype
Anonymous No.64405915 [Report] >>64405921
>>64405799
Jared Diamond pls go
>like nazis filling churches with civilians and burning them
When did this ever happen?
>bet awstizch guards had insane kill ratios too
No they really didn’t
Anonymous No.64405917 [Report]
>>64405912
looks tasty ngl, would.
Anonymous No.64405919 [Report] >>64405981
>>64405807
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/abs/prehistoric-sweet-potato-ipomoea-batatas-from-mangaia-island-central-polynesia/4EE1E443CBCBFE19645D63C1E0FFD468
There you go boss.
Anonymous No.64405921 [Report] >>64405952
>>64405915
>6M/0
Pretty insane ratio.
Anonymous No.64405927 [Report]
>>64399997
>anti-German seething
Hello Pierre (or perhaps a Moroccan, considering you just unironically tried praising "Andalus". To hell with you.) . From Philip II onwards, they spoke Spanish and were completely culturally Spanish. Visigoths did just fine.
Anonymous No.64405928 [Report] >>64405934 >>64405987
>>64405817
You are literally looking at the original fish farm, what are you suggesting here man?

>>64405879
No man, they were sailing consciously. This is literally well known fact. https://ssec.si.edu/stemvisions-blog/sweet-potatoes-dna-new-evidence-supports-links-between-south-american-and
Anonymous No.64405929 [Report]
>>64405744
>Horse domestication was attempted and failed about three times at least,
Anon I’m pretty sure horses are domesticated
>and horses are easier to manage than zebras by far, even wild ones.
Based on what? You don’t know that. There’s been no real attempt to domesticate zebras. There have been infrequent attempts to tame individual zebras, not to breed the relatively tame ones.
>wild horses
Where? Any wild horse population has its roots traced back to domesticated ones. For example the North American horse died off and was reintroduced by European settlers. Any wild ones in North America today stem from domesticated ones.
Anonymous No.64405930 [Report] >>64405992
>>64405879
>Does not amount to a seafaring culture, though
anon, i...
Anonymous No.64405931 [Report] >>64405944
>>64405799
Auschwitz camp guards? 0 kills. Hiwis in the field? Bazillion kills.

>>64405750
Europe and Japan were absolutely fucking destroyed in WW2. China lost 20 million people. And yet all of these rebuilt to be leaders in industry, innovation and economics since the war.

Africa was handed somewhat underdeveloped lands, and promptly wreckt whatever infrastructure they had and made 0 progress in close to a century now. Niggers are just retarded and your traces of mud huts wont convince anyone.
Anonymous No.64405934 [Report]
>>64405928
cool deflection to fish farms, very sneaky

i'm sure your other outlandish bullshit is now totally true
Anonymous No.64405944 [Report] >>64405954
>>64405931
Anon, i'm talking about archaeology here, i don't give a shit about modern Africa.
Anonymous No.64405949 [Report] >>64405960
>>64405780
>Perhaps the funniest of all these things is that arguably the most advanced society even to the modern era would be considered the Polynesians
One of the funniest self owns is people saying dumb shit like this just because they hate whites
Anonymous No.64405952 [Report]
>>64405921
>undefined
Yep I agree it didn’t happen. But it should have
Anonymous No.64405954 [Report] >>64406153 >>64406231
>>64405944
If they are this retarded today, there is no chance they were any better 1000 years ago, is my point. Trying to obfuscate by pretending there maybe were wood based cities all over Africa "but we just cant prove it" is gay liberal nonsense trying to put niggers on a pedestal.
Anonymous No.64405957 [Report]
>>64401313
>an actual Nantu defender
Anonymous No.64405960 [Report] >>64405994
>>64405949
>Liking sailing niggas is the same as hating whites.
Genuinely confused by what you mean by this.
Anonymous No.64405981 [Report] >>64406026
>>64405919
>bird poops sweet potatoe on island
>sweet potatoe grows on island
Meh.
Anonymous No.64405987 [Report] >>64406026
>>64405928
>No man, they were sailing consciously
Ok, they were conscious. Doesn't amount to a seafaring culture.
Anonymous No.64405992 [Report] >>64406167
>>64405930
Talking about the totem pole worshiping Pasific Northerwestern tribes here, bud.
Anonymous No.64405994 [Report] >>64406026
>>64405960
>the most advanced society even to the modern era would be considered the Polynesians
Come on
Anonymous No.64406026 [Report] >>64406054 >>64406096 >>64406112
>>64405987
>>64405981
Are you two being retarded on purpose? You think tubers survive bird digestion, and you think people routinely visiting islands and even documenting how they did it to their contact with European culture weren't doing it on purpose?

>>64405994
I think groups with routine navigation (including night time seafaring), agriculture, colonization, animal husbandry, well established social order and even legal systems are advanced. I'm sure you'll discuss how the modern era defines itself on the next level of scale and that's fair. I think if you give a look at our stacking toolset vs the extremely limited Polynesians it's pretty impressive. Especially when considering they managed to permanent colonize islands in eras where food scarcity were prevalent in stable land empires. I'm not suggesting any type of wizardry, but the usage of the islands was undeniably efficient on a scale even modern society struggles with. Adding to it that basic stone tools could be very rare I think it's a fascinating look into how humanity can adapt, even in an extremely rugged biome.
Anonymous No.64406054 [Report] >>64406088
>>64406026
The Chinese were making fucking gunpowder and block printing, while the Polynesians went drifting around in katamarans. How the fuck are they the most advanced. Europeans had the compass (lodestones) by the time polynesians found new zealand.
Anonymous No.64406071 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
Flips are weak little people with the mental capacity of children.
Anonymous No.64406087 [Report]
you had me at naked filipino
Anonymous No.64406088 [Report] >>64406105
>>64406054
>Sailing = drifting
Lol, and yet with all those advances neither could sail as well or as far.
Anonymous No.64406096 [Report]
>>64406026
>I think groups with routine navigation (including night time seafaring), agriculture, colonization, animal husbandry, well established social order and even legal systems are advanced
Yes. But your first post said 300 years ago. Using that as “not modern” all European societies absolutely mog anyone else. They have everything you define here. You can go back farther and farther and find other societies doing equally or more impressive things.

Just because Kamahameha unlocks sailing at the start of the game doesn’t mean real life works that way.
Anonymous No.64406099 [Report] >>64406126
Filipinos are a lot like the Irish, they may not be the most advanced or cultured or even the best warriors but they go down swinging more often than not.
Anonymous No.64406105 [Report] >>64406165
>>64406088
Europeans circumnavigated the world, polynesians never did. Retard.
Anonymous No.64406112 [Report] >>64406165
>>64406026
>tubers survive bird digestion
Probably just gripped them in thier claws until they got tired. You're not suggesting coconuts migrate, too?
Anonymous No.64406118 [Report] >>64406123
i love filipinos, theyre small and cute and their women throw themselves at you if youre white
Anonymous No.64406123 [Report] >>64406141 >>64406143 >>64406155
>>64406118
They will drain your bank account alongside your balls and try to commit massive chain migration with you.
Anonymous No.64406126 [Report] >>64406143 >>64406151 >>64406253
>>64406099
Have you ever met a flip? The women are all whores and the men are all tiny little angry posturing weaklings trying to cope for all the ladyboys they produce. Fighting flips is like fighting children. Its too easy. Flips try to cope with martial arts and knives but they get beat up by pedo sex tourists all the time.
Anonymous No.64406141 [Report]
>>64406123
>try to commit massive chain migration with you.
Fr fr.
Anonymous No.64406143 [Report] >>64406172
>>64406123
sounds kinda fun desu
>>64406126
flip ladyboys are absolutely stunning. if you dont believe me, go to manila and use tinder
Anonymous No.64406151 [Report]
>>64406126
I respect the Chihuahua tenacity. They have big hearts despite being little.
Anonymous No.64406152 [Report]
Fags are disgusting.
Anonymous No.64406153 [Report] >>64406209
>>64405954
>If they are this retarded today, there is no chance they were any better 1000 years ago, is my point.
mother-fucker, have you never heard of South East Asia? How about the entirety of Latin America? Arabs and other semites, even? It is not infrequently the case that complex civilizations have brain-dead descendants. You're pretty good example of this yourself, you demi-negroid.
>Trying to obfuscate by pretending there maybe were wood based cities all over Africa "but we just cant prove it" is gay liberal nonsense trying to put niggers on a pedestal.
I'm not speculating anon, I know there were urban settlements in West Africa from at least the first Millennium B.C. and onward, because there is archaeological evidence for it. There are the Tichitt sites like Dhakhlet El Atrouss in Mauritania. There are the Kintampo sites such as Daboya and Boyasi Hill in Ghana. There is the site of Sodohome 1 and it's successor Sodohome 2 in Benin. Urbanization from the first millennium B.C. to the early first millennium A.D. is an indisputable fact.
Anonymous No.64406155 [Report] >>64406161
>>64406123
>They will drain your bank account alongside your balls
all women do this, have you ever been in a relationship?
>try to commit massive chain migration with you.
not if you retire in their country with crypto bux or va disability
Anonymous No.64406161 [Report]
>>64406155
Wait all women drain your balls on command? Am I dating post op trannies or something?
Anonymous No.64406165 [Report] >>64406204 >>64406216 >>64406291
>>64406112
Lmao I see we reached the point already described in the first post.

>>64406105
Wow amazing stuff. How long did it take them to equal a culture that treated stone tools as a rare luxury?
Anonymous No.64406167 [Report] >>64406184
>>64405992
why would you bring-up the pacific northwesterners? the study was talking about Colombian populations.
Anonymous No.64406172 [Report]
>>64406143
Pedo homo sex tourist detected
Anonymous No.64406184 [Report]
>>64406167
>the study was talking about Colombian populations.
Skipped that line, got distracted due to bias.
>15 Pacific coast Native American groups
Anonymous No.64406204 [Report] >>64406215
>>64406165
>Lmao
You laugh now, but there is science involved beyond your comprehension.
Anonymous No.64406209 [Report] >>64406374
>>64406153
>because there is archaeological evidence for it
you just have it hidden under your bed for reasons, i assume?
Anonymous No.64406215 [Report] >>64406237
>>64406204
Amazing stuff, now show me one reliably bringing tubers back and forth between remote islands. Surely you can find an image just as quick based on your statement.
Anonymous No.64406216 [Report] >>64406228
>>64406165
>to equal
>implying there was something to equal among some ocean-drifting seaniggers
Anonymous No.64406228 [Report] >>64406236 >>64406245
>>64406216
>0 argument
: ^ )
Anonymous No.64406231 [Report]
>>64405954
>If they are this retarded today, there is no chance they were any better 1000 years ago, is my point
In your context, unresolved. But, there is clearly genetic evidence of bottlenecks and inbreeding that could delcine intelligence and entire (remaining) population for resulting generations.
Anonymous No.64406236 [Report] >>64406242
>>64406228
>seanig worshipper having arguments
you are more of a potato than a human
Anonymous No.64406237 [Report]
>>64406215
>Surely you can find an image just as quick based on your statement.
Oh, just extrapolate.
Anonymous No.64406242 [Report] >>64406252
>>64406236
>0 argument, but instead with insults
: ^ )
Anonymous No.64406245 [Report] >>64406258
>>64406228
oh so you do only stir shit to seethe about white people after all.

i wonder if anybody is surprised.
Anonymous No.64406252 [Report] >>64406258
>>64406242
>seanig worshipper having arguments
you deserve insults because you offer nothing else to respond to
Anonymous No.64406253 [Report] >>64406258 >>64406267
>>64406126
Cope. 5 filipinos equal almost 20 mexicans
Anonymous No.64406258 [Report] >>64406272
>>64406252
>still 0 argument
: ^ )

>>64406245
I'm white, you're mad, hi mad.

>>64406253
That number might be a bit off, how much do you enjoy Pinay sex? If more than 4 you could probably get about even exchange among the women.
Anonymous No.64406267 [Report]
>>64406253
Being an American has its advantages. Sorry you are small brown and gay. The rest of us don't worry about child sized browns with the iq of a snail
Anonymous No.64406272 [Report] >>64406293
>>64406258
post hand, mr white seanig worshipper. and the nose on the off chance that you're a pale skinned jew instead.
Anonymous No.64406291 [Report]
>>64406165
How exactly is some senturies long island hopping crawl euqal to world circumnavigation?
Anonymous No.64406293 [Report] >>64406303 >>64406332
>>64406272
Sure, post both of yours. Then you'll get mine.
Anonymous No.64406294 [Report] >>64406301 >>64406308
It's true. The Polynesians were the most advanced race on earth. Before they were conquered, colonized and exploited they had fish farms of trained attack sharks, a Maginot Line of cultured sea coral reefs to repel all invaders, didn't circumnavigate the world because they didn't want to, exported culture and plants and technology (like stones) to the New World and are superior in every way. Except for meeting Europeans and dying and stuff. Also, the Borneo tribes only ate people because they wanted to, not because they had to. Jared talks about this, too.
Anonymous No.64406301 [Report]
>>64406294
Thanks for the best copypasta I could hope for from this thread.
Anonymous No.64406303 [Report] >>64406366
>>64406293
so that's a no. good to know seanig shitskin.
Anonymous No.64406308 [Report] >>64406312 >>64406322 >>64406327 >>64406347 >>64407023 >>64407029
>>64406294
Polynesians proved themselves genetically superior by surviving on small islands while the white man had everything handed to them. Crazy how the white race tried to conquer the world only to fail and now thinks they're a subject to Jews and fantasize about black men with their wives
Anonymous No.64406312 [Report] >>64406325
>>64406308
chang, is that you?
Anonymous No.64406322 [Report]
>>64406308
>silly little island gook talking shit when chad arctic dwellig Inuits are in the house
coddled babies should sit down while true survivors are talking
Anonymous No.64406325 [Report]
>>64406312
That’s not true. They could also be Indian until proven to be jewish
Anonymous No.64406327 [Report]
>>64406308
White people lived in cold damp conditions, which is like living on hardmode. Even then there's other nonwhites in worse conditions that BTFO the island niggers living in literal paradise.
Anonymous No.64406332 [Report] >>64406337 >>64406366
>>64406293
NTA but here you go. Your turn flip
Anonymous No.64406337 [Report] >>64406354 >>64406365
>>64406332
cut your nails bro
Anonymous No.64406347 [Report]
>>64406308
It's past your bedtime in GMT. You have embraced the clock, right?
Anonymous No.64406354 [Report] >>64406368
>>64406337
>mutated nailless fingers
Wdhmbt?
Anonymous No.64406365 [Report] >>64406373
>>64406337
What nails? You can hardly see the pinky nail and it’s not even long
Anonymous No.64406366 [Report] >>64406383 >>64406394
>>64406303
>>64406332
Fuck these God damn captchas
Any posts not proving they are white and American with hand and gun will be disregarded by me, the Polynesianenjoyer. Non posters can now be safely ignored ; ^ )
Anonymous No.64406368 [Report]
>>64406354
>anon has never seen the palm of his hand
we've got some real thinkers itt
Anonymous No.64406373 [Report] >>64406395
>>64406365
the fact you can see it at all from that angle is concerning
Anonymous No.64406374 [Report] >>64406399 >>64406404 >>64406721 >>64407105 >>64407247
>>64406209
>Dueppen, S. (2025). Reconnecting the Forest, Savanna, and Sahel in West Africa: The Sociopolitical Implications of a Long-Networked Past. Journal of Archaeological Research, 33(3), 337–404. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10814-024-09201-w
>Merkyte, I., Albek, S., & Randsborg, K. (2019). Urbanizing Forest: Archaeological Evidence from Southern Bénin. Journal of African Archaeology, 17(2), 95–120. https://doi.org/10.1163/21915784-20190012
>Vernet, R., Gestrich, N., & Coutros, P. R. (2023). The Tichitt Culture and the Malian Lakes Region. African Archaeological Review, 40(4), 761–773. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10437-023-09554-5
Anonymous No.64406383 [Report] >>64406394 >>64406412 >>64406573
>>64406366
Now posting two things you in this thread don't have, a Dad and a Bible
Anonymous No.64406394 [Report] >>64406401
>>64406366
>>64406383
I'm leaving to go enjoy a workout. And thank my creator for a wonderful day to shitpost with all of you, get fucked.
Anonymous No.64406395 [Report] >>64406417
>>64406373
Nigger in what world is this too long?
Anonymous No.64406399 [Report] >>64406548
>>64406374
Why do all the researchers doing creative investigations have European sounding names? Can you show thier hands?
Anonymous No.64406401 [Report]
>>64406394
>reeeee people are making fun of me and pointing out I'm wrong
>well time to leave so i don't have to face criticism
Every time
Anonymous No.64406404 [Report] >>64406548
>>64406374
>some satelite photos of a group of 4! structures, potentially
might as well find evidence of african civilization in tea leaves
Anonymous No.64406410 [Report] >>64406423
what the hell is this thread. its like 3 guys arguing about fingernails and brown people.
Anonymous No.64406412 [Report]
>>64406383
>mid digit toe hair
Clearly Neanderthal blended. Not really a h. Sapians are you? I figure Jesus loves half humans, too.
Anonymous No.64406417 [Report] >>64406481
>>64406395
The heterosexual world, cupcake. Do you snort coke with that?
Anonymous No.64406423 [Report]
>>64406410
You make 4, Einstein.
Anonymous No.64406481 [Report]
>>64406417
>is this concerned with another man’s nail
>claims to be straight
Ok

Can we just go back to bullying the guy sucking off Polynesians?
Anonymous No.64406526 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
It's like the old question
>How many ducks do you think you could beat in a fight. The answer is a whole shitload, but it is a finite number.
Anonymous No.64406548 [Report] >>64406583 >>64406597
>>64406399
I never claimed that Africans were any good at archeology or that any modern African country isn't a complete shithole. I'm just saying, they had cities before they were colonized.
>>64406404
>>some satelite photos of a group of 4! structures, potentially
thousands of stone enclosed structures, clustered in small areas around per-historic lakes, with some outward similarities to other Tichitt sites which have had field-work done in them. At the very least, it's suggestive of urbanization to some degree. And that's still ignoring the far less ambiguous sites, like Sodohome 1.
Anonymous No.64406573 [Report]
>>64406383
Its a half flip! Hes little, he doesn't understand why his white daddy fucks men!
Anonymous No.64406583 [Report]
>>64406548
>>they had cities before they were colonized.
They had mud hut barbarian warlords that clustered together other tribes they defeated and enslaved. The ones they didn't eat anyway.
Anonymous No.64406597 [Report] >>64406605 >>64406721
>>64406548
>thousands of stone enclosed structures
may i see them? even a three digit number will do really. anything beyond what a small family can bring together in a weekend or two really. i know this is way too advanced for the entire african race really but do your best regardless.
Anonymous No.64406605 [Report] >>64406617 >>64406721
>>64406597
>may i see them
Nah, man. The jungle overgrowth took them. Just trust me, bro. It's like the giant mounds of the Amazon, the rain just wore them down, when they were as tall as skyscrapers.
Anonymous No.64406617 [Report] >>64406633 >>64407197
>>64406605
>the Sahel
>jungle
You are the blackest stupidest fucking nigger on the planet holy fuck anon.
Anonymous No.64406633 [Report] >>64406721
>>64406617
Africa is Africa, dumbass.
Anonymous No.64406721 [Report] >>64406792 >>64406973
>>64406597
see >>64406374
fuck's sake anon, are you illiterate or something?
>>64406605
>>64406633
you're such a black-ass boot-lipped negroid that you'd make a Maasai with melanism look white by comparison.
Anonymous No.64406792 [Report] >>64406886
>>64406721
i did check and saw nothing of that sort, so again, may i see it? crying doesn't really help your case.
Anonymous No.64406886 [Report] >>64406947
>>64406792
forgive the low-quality, I screenshotted and cropped the images.
Left images are the location and concentration of the structures, right is of tells (artificial mounds) in the area.
Again, this isn't even the only evidence for urban areas in Western Africa, just the earliest possible establishment of one.
Anonymous No.64406947 [Report] >>64406983
>>64406886
so basically the best evidence there is is a tiny area 80 miles across with a hundred or two(being generous here) earth mounds in the ground?

idk how you say impressive in african. impressionnant?
Anonymous No.64406973 [Report] >>64406983
>>64406721
>you're such a black-ass
>he denies africa is africa
Whew.
Anonymous No.64406983 [Report] >>64407011
>>64406947
>so basically the best evidence
jesus christ you really are illiterate.
no it's not the best evidence for urban civilization in sub-saharan africa. it's not even close to the best evidence. The Sodohome site is, as i've previously mentioned, way better since they've actually done field-work there. This is just the speculative guess on what could've been the earliest possible urban settlement there.
>>64406973
africa isn't just jungles you inbred retard, and saying "africa=africa" doesn't make it so.
Anonymous No.64407011 [Report] >>64407105
>>64406983
>no it's not the best evidence for urban civilization in sub-saharan africa. it's not even close to the best evidence
so where is it then? may i see it? this is getting ridiculous.
Anonymous No.64407023 [Report]
>>64406308
No, no, but the porn you watch has YOU fantasizing about white women committing beastiality (fat white single mudshark mothers IRL don't count as the same caliber as even paid whores)
Anonymous No.64407029 [Report]
>>64406308
>Nikita Dragovich image, you know the one

Tried?
You silly person, you'd be nowhere without them. Nowhere.
Anonymous No.64407105 [Report] >>64407147 >>64408511 >>64408513
>>64407011
jesus fucking christ, read the goddamn sources
>>64406374
hell, i'll post some excerpts from the second one
>The last decade of intensive surveying and excavationh ave revealed several pre-Dahomean archaeological sites and exposed previously unknown population dynamics on the Plateau of Abomey. Sodohomé 1 can be considereda n unparalleled settlement in Africa. It occupied 500 hectares and is dated to before 1000 BC.
>The town of Sodohomé 2... which overlaps in part with Sodohomé 1 and in part with the modern town of Bohicon, occupies 580 hectares and dates to ca. AD 900-1220. It comprises a large town with industrial activities related to iron as well as shrines and evidence of special men with high-status attributes. This period reflects nucleation and consolidation of human populations into dense production entities. After AD 1200 a trend of dispersal can be observed. This trend is dictated by the accumulated environmental constraints and degradation of living conditions due to intensive iron production in highly populated centres such as Sodohomé-Bohicon. Iron production is now being located outside habitation areas; in fact, the zones of dwelling and production are becoming entirely separated.
>Large semi-urban settlements with iron production were developing from a Stone Age base as early as the late second millennium BC. Towns became seats of the industrial output of iron, even for export, in the late first millennium AD. Felling of the high forest for the production of charcoal opened up the landscape for the expansion of settlements and extended food production going hand in hand with population growth. Long-distance trade, kingdoms and temples are evidence of the hitherto unknown development to the dawn of written history after AD 1500.
I already know you're gonna ignore or twist this shit though. Fucking Gobekli Tepe wouldn't be enough for you if it was found in Nigeria.
Anonymous No.64407147 [Report] >>64407191
>>64407105
i don't care about niggerlover excerpts, may i see any actual evidence? we've all heard about how nigs wuz kangs until whitey came and ruined it all but somehow any search for physical evidence falls flat.
Anonymous No.64407191 [Report] >>64407216
>>64407147
>gib proofs!
>those proofs don't count because, uh...
>because y-you're raycis!
I think 00 buckshot is the only cure for your mental retardation, consider administering it to your cranium immediately
Anonymous No.64407197 [Report]
>>64406617
>what is sarcasm
Anonymous No.64407216 [Report] >>64407247
>>64407191
>n-no, you can't see it
>k-kys
that's what i thought. visual evidence is too high bar for the fanciful fantasies of nigger worshippers.
Anonymous No.64407247 [Report] >>64407266
>>64407216
>>n-no, you can't see it
oh but you can
you see, all you have to do, is read the fucking paper here >>64406374
and then, you can figure out all on your own whether it makes sense or not. it's that fucking easy, you dumb-ass coon. Just point out what part of the article doesn't make sense. that's all you have to do.
Anonymous No.64407266 [Report] >>64407342
>>64407247
>you see, all you have to do, is read the fucking paper
the largest site in that paper has a cluster of 4 mounds. is this really the best nigger worshippers can do? is this really the pinnacle of african civilization? i thought there was more but if all you have is that paper then it's even more dire than i expected.
Anonymous No.64407342 [Report] >>64407372
>>64407266
anon, i'm not making the argument that this shit was wakanda, or a black rome or whatever, just that it was a pre-modern urban settlement. That's it.
And I don't even know what the fuck your talk about mounds is about. The primary evidence for urban settlement being provided here are ceramics, iron slag heaps, and other indicators of population density, specialized roles of labor, and buildings (mostly wattle and daub). The conclusions are drawn from the shit-ton of waste produced in a relatively small area within a certain frame of time, not artificial geographic features.
Anonymous No.64407372 [Report] >>64407410
>>64407342
so basically the only thing there is are some waste products that make that tiny area barely passable to be considered an "urban" settlement similar to any pre-modern village elsewhere in the world. if this isn't pathetic and deserving of mockery then idk what is.
Anonymous No.64407410 [Report] >>64407418 >>64407686
>>64407372
>africa didn't have any cities!
>w-well I guess they did, but they were really lame and stupid because blah blah blah
Look nigga, I don't why you're building this image of me in your head where i'm sjw trying to argue nignogs were in space when whiteys were living in mud-huts. I'm not. The only point i've been trying to establish during this entire retarded conversation was that urban settlements existed prior to European colonization. That's it. You can say they're shitty cities, and you'd be right, they're nothing special. But they existed, that's established fact, and no amount of seething is going to change that.
Live with it.
Anonymous No.64407418 [Report]
>>64407410
>a couple of earth mounds and a pile of trash
>a city
this is so ridiculous that you might as well be a nigger worshipping kike straight from racial studies course. btw the only physical evidence remains just that, for the whole africa, so your crying about "facts" is patently laughable.
Anonymous No.64407524 [Report]
>>64396694
>(((Jared Diamond)))
Anonymous No.64407686 [Report] >>64408459
>>64407410
> urban settlements existed prior to European colonization
That implies some level of develop and construction of buildings which they did not have
Anonymous No.64408179 [Report] >>64408367
Magellan lost and his expedition lost like almost every ship save for one but the Philippines got conquered without even a massive war with the local tribal chiefs converting to Christianity willingly.

They're not like the Incas/Aztecs/Mayans who at least tried to fight the Spaniards even if they lost bigly, ancient Philipinos willingly dumped their ooga booga religion for a Middle Eastern one and got their country branded from a Habsburg royal.
Anonymous No.64408367 [Report]
>>64408179
they converted from islam, retard
Anonymous No.64408459 [Report] >>64409181
>>64407686
>That implies some level of develop and construction of buildings which they did not have
Learn some English, you faggot.
Anonymous No.64408511 [Report] >>64408562
>>64407105
>evidence of special men with high-status attributes
Fantastical evidence!
Anonymous No.64408513 [Report] >>64408562
>>64407105
>Felling of the high forest for the production of charcoal opened up the landscape for the expansion of settlements and extended food production going hand in hand with population growth.
Speculation.
Anonymous No.64408562 [Report] >>64408578
>>64408511
They found ceramic figurines of men wearing elaborate costumes which seem to be indicators of rank. This in turn implies social stratification and job specialization, hallmarks of an urban settlement.
>>64408513
They found heaps of iron slag which would require charcoal in order to make in the first place, and numerous ceramic vessels with traces of oil and other food crops in them. It's really not that speculative.
Anonymous No.64408578 [Report]
>>64408562
You are making a lot of assumptions. And suffer confirmation bias.
Anonymous No.64408632 [Report]
>>64405896
>>64405912

Lol the Jomon Phenotype that makes Japanese so Caucasian-like compared to Mongoloid Koreans and Chinese, actually came from Southeast Asia! Talk about condemning the people as the ugly, the same people you claim you get your good looks from.

Ainu Jomon from Southeast Asia

https://nichibun.repo.nii.ac.jp/record/383/files/IJ0401.pdf
Anonymous No.64408667 [Report]
>>64397922
>45 ACP
Funny you mention that, since it was thanks to a bunch of drugged-up Filipinos that America really wanted more STOPPIN' POWAH in their next sidearm, desiring something chambered in 45 ACP (at smallest) which lead to the 1911's trials and adoption.
Anonymous No.64408681 [Report]
>>64396556 (OP)
fuckhuge rock tied to a long stick, plate armor is surprisingly susceptible to being caved in from a good oogabooga-ing, and if you shield block the sheer nomentum may break your arm
Anonymous No.64409181 [Report]
>>64408459
Oh fuck me I guess for not saying development at 10:45 while I’m brushing my teeth and getting ready for bed. Still no counter argument from you, you niggerlover