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Anonymous No.64453785 [Report] >>64453998 >>64454119 >>64456394 >>64456516 >>64457950 >>64457996 >>64461083 >>64461931 >>64462355 >>64462407 >>64464616
The Turkish Armed Forces have received the initial batch of Altay main battle tanks from the Ankara Tank Factory. The factory will deliver 96 modern tanks annually
Anonymous No.64453787 [Report] >>64456394
more pics from today
Anonymous No.64453791 [Report] >>64453801
I don't care about tanks.
Anonymous No.64453792 [Report] >>64456394
Anonymous No.64453797 [Report] >>64453820 >>64454051 >>64454326 >>64458964
Sublime.

With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Ottoman bull, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Ottoman quantum TB-2 drones, quantum miniature cruise missiles, and quantum enhanced watermelons will be the instruments with which TÜRKIYE affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.
Anonymous No.64453801 [Report]
>>64453791
because of drones?
Anonymous No.64453820 [Report]
>>64453797
this copy pasta gets me, all the time
Anonymous No.64453986 [Report]
The delivered ones are T1 variant, share many common points with Korean K2. The ammunition is stored in the hull on both sides of the driver without isolation, in the T2 version there is to be full isolation.
Anonymous No.64453998 [Report] >>64454009
>>64453785 (OP)
How many tanks have been ordered in total?
Anonymous No.64454009 [Report] >>64454054 >>64455476 >>64459386
>>64453998
4 x 250 tanks. 4 batches in T1, T2, T3 and T4 variants.

T2 will run on Turkish made diesel + transmission

T3 will have 3 crew only, with autoloader

T4 likely to be unmanned (rumors only)
Anonymous No.64454037 [Report]
Sublime (unironically)
Dope 70s paint scheme
Anonymous No.64454044 [Report]
I think they look pretty neat. :)
Anonymous No.64454051 [Report] >>64459507
>>64453797
t. Rudy
Anonymous No.64454054 [Report] >>64454104
>>64454009
Any info on the APFSDS for the MKE 120/L55 ?
Anonymous No.64454104 [Report]
>>64454054
if i recall correctly this ammo is being produced by MKE, apparently a variant of German DM33 but not DM53

https://www.mke.gov.tr/Urunler/120-mm-Tank-Muhimmatlari/197

Not an expert on this topic but Turkish tanks mostly used HEAT-T & HEAT-MP-T rounds in Syria. These are produced by Turkish MKE too.
Anonymous No.64454119 [Report]
>>64453785 (OP)
Unironically like it, looks like if the K2 Black Panther was made in the 1990's.
Anonymous No.64454132 [Report] >>64454152
Send their Leopard 2s to Ukraine.
Anonymous No.64454152 [Report] >>64454168 >>64454182
>>64454132
Turkish Leo2A4s are also being upgraded to Leo2NGs. So, i think Turkey doesn't contemplate a scenario to phase out Leopards anytime soon.
Anonymous No.64454168 [Report] >>64454177
>>64454152
Makes sense anon. Are they keeping some M60s in their future plan?
Anonymous No.64454177 [Report]
>>64454168
I hope not
Anonymous No.64454182 [Report] >>64454276
>>64454152
The only pipe dream scenario I see is the Turks and Greeks agreeing to phase out a comparable number of Leopard 1's for that purpose, but it involved Turkey and Greece agreeing on something that isn't earthquake relief, so the chance of it happening is below zero.
Either way, that's not what the thread is about.
Anonymous No.64454184 [Report]
Sublime
Anonymous No.64454276 [Report] >>64454293 >>64461093 >>64461200
>>64454182
If this didn't happen before 2024, it won't happen anytime soon because Turkey has already suspended CFE in 2024, declaring that no limits apply to the number of conventional military equipment in Turkish arsenal. (Turkey was limited to 4000 tanks by CFE)

https://www.setav.org/en/perspective-the-suspension-of-the-treaty-on-conventional-armed-forces-in-europe-cfe
Anonymous No.64454293 [Report]
>>64454276
>https://www.setav.org/en/perspective-the-suspension-of-the-treaty-on-conventional-armed-forces-in-europe-cfe
That was a painful read.
Anonymous No.64454326 [Report]
>>64453797
>With Approvals from Abraham Sweetvoice Pasha
Anonymous No.64455476 [Report] >>64456345 >>64459386 >>64464453
>>64454009
>T2 will run on Turkish made diesel + transmission
Just like how KAAN will fly on Turkish made jet engines?
Anonymous No.64456345 [Report] >>64456396 >>64459386 >>64461224
>>64455476
The local engine has already gone through 10000 km field test, https://x.com/gooksel/status/1983458091380207902
Anonymous No.64456394 [Report]
>>64453785 (OP)
>>64453787
>>64453792
Is the ALTAY MBT any good?
Anonymous No.64456396 [Report] >>64456443 >>64456501
>>64456345
>The local engine has already gone through 10000 km field test
Then why hasn't it been adopted yet?
Anonymous No.64456443 [Report]
>>64456396
still looking for the parts that fell off
Anonymous No.64456501 [Report] >>64456519 >>64458017
>>64456396
Mobility trials of the indigenous engine and transmission are ongoing. Altay MBT powered by a fully Turkish-designed diesel unit & transmission will be handed over to the armed forces for final evaluation by 2026, as per AA.

https://www.aa.com.tr/tr/savunma-sanayisi/altay-tankinin-kalbi-yerli-batu-guc-grubu-ile-atacak/3729455
Anonymous No.64456516 [Report] >>64457988
>>64453785 (OP)
>the tank is dwarfed by the LAV
remember when they were the medium weight option
Anonymous No.64456519 [Report] >>64458017
>>64456501
very short clip from Ankara tank engine factory, by time, more will be revealed i guess
Anonymous No.64457273 [Report] >>64458017
1500 hp BATU tank engines in factory
Anonymous No.64457950 [Report]
>>64453785 (OP)
13.75 million for a tank?
War ain't for broke niggas.
Anonymous No.64457988 [Report] >>64458171
>>64456516
That's not an LAV
Anonymous No.64457996 [Report] >>64458009 >>64458012 >>64458019
>>64453785 (OP)
Does it have APS?
If not, it's scrap metal.
Anonymous No.64458009 [Report] >>64458064
>>64457996
It does. But it will be useless against drones due to its elevation limit
Anonymous No.64458012 [Report]
>>64457996
AKKOR APS
Anonymous No.64458017 [Report] >>64458064 >>64463113
>>64456501
>>64456519
>>64457273
I don't think turks can make a proper powerpack when they can't even make shotguns properly.
Anonymous No.64458019 [Report]
>>64457996
It's still scrap metal if it does, since APS protects against RPGs and not drones.
Anonymous No.64458064 [Report] >>64458166 >>64458175
>>64458017
This is not the $99 throwaway shotgun you buy at Walmart.

>>64458009
AKKOR APS can engage top attack missiles, so i believe it can be tweaked to halt FPV drones as well.
Anonymous No.64458166 [Report]
>>64458064
>This is not the $99 throwaway shotgun you buy at Walmart.
It isn't?
Anonymous No.64458171 [Report] >>64459401
>>64457988
yes it is
Anonymous No.64458175 [Report] >>64463026 >>64468245
>>64458064
>can't make $99 throwaway shotguns properly
>can totally make precision engineered heavy duty automotive engines
Anonymous No.64458367 [Report]
>A new Korean influenced a new family of MBT
>Koreans expanding tank production and encircling Finland
They're taking the Second Finno-Korean War seriously.
Anonymous No.64458964 [Report] >>64459273
>>64453797
Here's the thing. The Turks don't go around posting cgi fan fiction of their stuff like the Chinks. They actually do the work and develop their MIC from the ground up, unlike the Chinks who steal tech and try to bruteforce the tech tree. The Turks know their stuff is mediocre but it is fast approaching Western European quality due to their start from the basics approach. I give them another 10 years to fully catch up. Coupled with their heavy industrial capacity, they'll give Western MICs a run for their money soon enough.
Anonymous No.64459273 [Report]
>>64458964
Saved. Nice pasta
Anonymous No.64459386 [Report] >>64459405 >>64459478 >>64459579 >>64459760
>>64454009
>>64455476
>>64456345
>Worst Koreans get a major tank deal with NATO member
>Uses Turkshit engines after Germany backs out due to Turkish meddling in Syria
>No MTU Europacks for Turks
>Meanwhile in Pyongyang:

Germany what the fuck are you doing?
Anonymous No.64459401 [Report] >>64462986
>>64458171
That's an Altug. It's weighs more than twice as much and is a lot bigger.
Anonymous No.64459405 [Report] >>64459442 >>64459463
>>64459386
Shut the fuck up you faggot chink propaganda shill
Anonymous No.64459442 [Report] >>64459559
>>64459405
Anon doesn't know much about tanks does xer?
Anonymous No.64459463 [Report] >>64459471 >>64459478
>>64459405
>He doesn't know the norktard is anti-ccp
Anonymous No.64459471 [Report] >>64459504
>>64459463
Self replying faggot
Anonymous No.64459478 [Report] >>64459504
>>64459463
>>64459386
Fuck off tripfag nigger
Anonymous No.64459504 [Report] >>64459553 >>64459553
>>64459478
>>64459471
>Doesn't know who he is talking to
>Self replies while accusing someone of self replying>Board being spammed constantly

So what blew up today?
Anonymous No.64459507 [Report]
>>64454051
based and Odinpilled
Anonymous No.64459553 [Report]
>>64459504
>>64459504
>>Doesn't know who he is talking to

An obnoxious blog posting self replying propaganda spewing pinko nigger. Neck yourself
Anonymous No.64459559 [Report] >>64459642
>>64459442
You're the one that doesn't know what they're talking about. The Polish K2 and the first batch of Altays have Korean engines. I shouldn't expect a tankie to not be retarded though
Anonymous No.64459579 [Report]
>>64459386
Meanwhile in Pyongyang an obese slant eyed con artist shows off a mock up while South Koreans and Turks have running tanks with new high end engines.
Anonymous No.64459642 [Report] >>64459658
>>64459559
The first KOREAN K2s didn't even use a Korean engine:
>K2 Black Panther: Euro power packs (MT883 Ka-501) were used in 100 tanks produced for the first batch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EuroPowerPack

>The production of Altay has been delayed since 2018, as the programme was relying on German 1,500 hp MTU engines and RENK transmissions,[34] because of the German federal arms embargo on Turkey due to their involvement in the Syrian Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altay_(tank)

So yeah you're wrong and you're are all retarded n stuff and ur waifu a shit plus Mari best girl.
Anonymous No.64459658 [Report] >>64459718
>>64459642
Read your own sources you fucking retarded dipshit. The Altay got Korean engines after the German engines were cancelled. The next batch will get Turkish engines. North Korea hasn't proven it's able to make a new engine despite your shilling zipper face. The K2 has had Korean engines for the last two batches.
Anonymous No.64459718 [Report] >>64459754 >>64459766
>>64459658
>the first batch of Altays have Korean engines
Nope;
>Prototypes have German engines
>Production model has Turkish engines
>Worst Korean ones are a stopgap due to Germans telling the Turks off
>Weigh 750 kg more than German engine for same power output

Reading comprehension isn't high on the skill list for ESL shills is it?

>The K2 has had Korean engines for the last two batches.
So they downgraded from the MTUs? Wow, such progress, much advance!
Anonymous No.64459754 [Report] >>64459790 >>64459790
>>64459718
>The first batch will be produced using HD Hyundai Infracore engine and SNT Dynamics transmission, while the second batch will use BMC-made domestic engine.[16]

Too hard to see out of those slits, or is your brain petrified from your North Korean bark and grass diet?
Anonymous No.64459760 [Report] >>64459790
>>64459386
>Imagine shilling for a commie failed state dependent on Chinkastani gibs. Western
Anonymous No.64459766 [Report] >>64459790
>>64459718
It not being subject to German asperger export laws makes it usable therefore better. Also you're a dumbass if you think North Korea has leapfrogged anyone in tank tech considering they can barely eat or have consistent electricity
Anonymous No.64459790 [Report] >>64459812
>>64459754
Both of which are inferior to the MTU they wanted and that even Korea itself used before making their domestic engine.

>>64459754
>>64459760
>>64459766
>Self responds three times in a row
>Has no idea who he is talking to or what their stance actually is
>No arguments, just lies and babbles racist insults against himself

The constant racist insults are especially hilarious since you are constantly insulting Asians while shilling them at the same time. Go back to /pol/ my confused child.
Anonymous No.64459812 [Report] >>64459865
>>64459790
Condemn North Korea
Anonymous No.64459865 [Report] >>64461884
>>64459812
I do it all the the time; they shouldn't support Russia, Iran is dead weight and they should be US allies. They also don't really need to pursue so many diverse deterrent methods, more of that should be spent domestically

What you are doing however is classic PRC propaganda tactics. No one besides the PRC wants there to be conflict with the Koreas so they pose as rabid Southerners or racist Americans or so forth to sow division and conflict. China's fundamental problem is without the Korean conflict all of East Asia can agree on one single thing: Hating China. A united East Asia doesn't need the US to deter the PRC; Formosa, Japan, Vietnam and the Koreas could do it on their own. The DPRK is a major problem because the instant East Asia unites against the PRC that defacto alliance instantly has an atomic deterrent.

Americans might not realize it but the PRC has undoubtedly noted that the DPRK's nuclear stance implicitly states that they with respond against any third power that uses atomic weapons against the RoK: The only nation that could possibly be is China.

tl;dr: You are the one that sounds like a shill for a communist dictatorship.
Anonymous No.64461083 [Report] >>64464677
>>64453785 (OP)
I hope it crushes the merkava in the future Israel Turkey wars.
Anonymous No.64461093 [Report] >>64461200
>>64454276
I'm guessing that's some form of APS
Anonymous No.64461200 [Report] >>64461245
>>64454276
>>64461093
I've always wondered something: Can the crew see through the sensors? Can these be manually aimed and detonated? Could you use it as a directional AP mine?
Anonymous No.64461224 [Report] >>64461234
>>64456345
I think they could crank out more tanks per year if they stopped assembling them on a centrifuge.
Anonymous No.64461234 [Report]
>>64461224
lmao
The Kebab assembly technique guarantees full compliance, otherwise it could be haram.
Anonymous No.64461245 [Report] >>64461264
>>64461200
No, APS uses radar for tracking threats.
Anonymous No.64461264 [Report] >>64461938
>>64461245
So how do they allegedly use 'AI' to identify threats without electro optics?
Anonymous No.64461884 [Report]
>>64459865
Why do you take your trip on and off and talk to yourself?
Anonymous No.64461931 [Report]
>>64453785 (OP)
>turkey
Anonymous No.64461938 [Report] >>64462720
>>64461264
Instead of feeding it a raster image, you feed it a radar target signature. It learns to discriminate based on that signature.
Anonymous No.64462355 [Report]
>>64453785 (OP)
the front end on that IFV is ugly as fuck but the tank looks cool at least
Anonymous No.64462407 [Report] >>64462526 >>64462548 >>64462781
>>64453785 (OP)
>Whats with these cables?

Are they gonna keep it like that?
Anonymous No.64462526 [Report]
>>64462407
You mean the hydraulic lines?
Anonymous No.64462548 [Report] >>64462588
>>64462407
that's a tank in production line, which erdogan visited in factory
Anonymous No.64462588 [Report]
>>64462548
They should add ERA above the ammo, maybe.
Anonymous No.64462720 [Report]
>>64461938
It should be easy enough to add a electro optical sensor, i feel like having that radar without the crew being able to use it or aim the weapon at a manually selected target is a flaw of some kind. Not being able to use a sensor or weapon manually just seems wrong.

Besides, i'm sure it would work just fine as a emergency canister round.
Anonymous No.64462781 [Report] >>64463186
>>64462407
Those are hydraulic lines for the suspension and DTT
Anonymous No.64462986 [Report]
>>64459401
This thing looks like you could fit two stories worth of men in it. Like a two-story APC
Anonymous No.64463026 [Report] >>64468245
>>64458175
>they're the same people bro
Anonymous No.64463063 [Report] >>64463074
same factory also builds armored tank transporters
Anonymous No.64463074 [Report] >>64463121
>>64463063
Anonymous No.64463113 [Report]
>>64458017
>Refuses to admit defeat when shown clear and verifiable evidence that contradicts what they are attempting to push
You have to Greek or something. No one is this assmad about Turkey committing to their local industries other than the Greeks
Anonymous No.64463121 [Report]
>>64463074
they also make hundreds of center depressed flatcars for tanks and armored vehicles, wohoo
Anonymous No.64463186 [Report]
>>64462781
But why they lay there are not in some way covered? That Tank does not look it needs those caples why they are installed?

Isn´t this stupid for the Crew?
Anonymous No.64464453 [Report] >>64464550
>>64455476
>Just like how KAAN will fly on Turkish made jet engines?
Yes.
Anonymous No.64464532 [Report] >>64464626
I've met a Turk and just as every single thirdy you encounter he couldn't shut the fuck up about how great turkey was despite not living there. I think their government is pretty good at psychological warfare, they don't need tanks
Anonymous No.64464550 [Report] >>64465939
>>64464453
Superpower by 2030?
Anonymous No.64464616 [Report] >>64464664
>>64453785 (OP)
>modern
It's just a Leopard 2A4 with a korean engine and some extra composites on the turret tho...
Anonymous No.64464626 [Report]
>>64464532
please beat him up
t. kebab
Anonymous No.64464664 [Report]
>>64464616
>It's just a Leopard 2A4 with a korean engine and some extra composites on the turret tho...
no
Anonymous No.64464677 [Report]
>>64461083
It won't ever come to that since Israel has a superior air force
Anonymous No.64465939 [Report] >>64466031
>>64464550
Turkey has more power than India in tangible terms.
Turkey certainly has more power than Pakistan and DPRK, in case someone brings up Indian nukes.
Anonymous No.64466031 [Report]
>>64465939
turkish defense industry > indian defense industry
Anonymous No.64468245 [Report]
>>64458175
>>64463026
Not really made by the same people or by the same standards.