Thread 64467456

Where the revolvers chads at? Haven't seen a revolver general in a few days

Model 60 no dash. Came with old worn out pachmeyer grips, the wood is way nicer. Never understood full size grips on tiny j frames.

Any good recommendations for defensive standard pressure .38 spl loads?

>>64467456 (OP)
I love my revolver, but revolver threads always have the same six people posting their revolvers, and the same shitposts from everyone else saying their full sized dick carry semi with a 50 round magazine makes revolvers obsolete.

>>64468024
Is right.

Love revolvers and keep buying ancient ones.

LGS has a Fitzed pre-model 36 chiefs special

>>64467456 (OP)
I just took my Taurus for a walk at 3:30 AM, hoping that the neighbor's barking dogs would run at me in the street so I could shoot them.

>>64468206
How much?

>>64468338
Cat sniper?

>>64468338
You are too mentally ill to own a firearm.

>>64468409
Not in the US, but about $75

>>64468024
Agreed, though I'd argue that a decent chunk of
>same shitposts from everyone else saying their full sized dick carry semi with a 50 round magazine makes revolvers obsolete.
are just those same half dozen people trying to get people to engage in the thread

Revolver threads are probably one of the most boringly predictable elements of this entire dried up board.

>>64468024
>>64468705
My favorite part of revolver threads is spergs crying about how revolver threads are obsolete with the advent of /hg/. Comedy gold.

>>64467456 (OP)
Saw an old 32 Arminius at the pawn shop for $300. Considering it desu.

>>64468024
Revolvers were made obsolete 120 years ago

revolvers are great. high power cartridge and long barrel for good range and portability, super reliable and durable mechanically, easy to handload ammo with a weaker load for safety with no action to operate, can be converted to black powder or some other propellant easily and cleaning residue isnt an issue, and im pretty sure .357 can use standard 9mm bullets that can be salvaged in times of .357 scarcity.

>>64468962
there is a single action revolver made by some corporation that has a 357 cylinder along with two more for 9mm & 38 super

>>64468962
uh ya cool AI post

>>64468705
Okay, here's a change up
I posted this in the gun ideas thread
My concept for a new kind of revolver
Not sure how to lock the "top" to the "bottom", and not sure what to do for the hammer. Part of me wants something like the false hammer of the chiappa, but there could also be a lever on the side?

>>64469062
6 o clock revolvers will never not be retarded

>>64469024
That's great, id like to get one like that. Id also want it to be .410 compatible like the taurus judge. It would be like the ultimate survival gun with a long barrel, those conversion cylinders, and maybe some good brass .410 shells to reload like some kind of blunderbuss, maybe a small scope too. I think whatever company produces this gun would be very successful.

>>64469045
It isnt ai, i just like revolvers. I asked chatgpt about the 9mm bullet in a 357 case though and it basically said i should get a factory-made 9mm conversion cylinder. It also said basically some company sells a 9mm cylinder, but changing the barrel is unnecessary, which sounds great to me, because i think 9mm is .355 not .357.

>>64467456 (OP)
90gr ftx critical defense lite.

The better loading is the 110gr +p ftx critical defense. It has great expansion and ft/lbs out of a snub nose.

>>64469172
why do you love nigger cock so much?

dude weed lmao

>>64469109
Why is that?

>>64469261
you lose fingers if something goes wrong

>>64469261
also height over bore

>>64468024
>>64468928
No shit they're outdated, and somewhat obsolete compared to a high capacity autoloader. A mechanical swiss watch is also outdated and obsolete compared to a Casio, but that doesn't mean I can't appreciate it for it's beauty and mechanical function. Plus I don't want to have to put a gun belt on just to go smoke a cigarette or check the mail.

>>64469174
I'll have to look into it. Thanks.

>>64468840
>thinks any speed loader weighs more than a full mag
silence noguns

Finally got around to testing that "free gun" I got last year. Near as I can figure it's a 1967 model 36. It wasn't used much or maintained in the last 30 years, possibly ever.
I got 1 failure to fire on the cheapest range ammo I could find (out of 15.) It fired on restrike after going around.
I then put in 5 rounds of Hornetty critical defense and the first to pulls in double action failed to fire. They fired when they came around again.

What do? Is it worth trying to fix this thing? I doubt it's the ammo, but what do I know? I'm at least the third owner, can I send it to Smith? I can't imagine the firing pin is worn but it's possible. 58ish year old springs too weak?
If it worked, I'd totally carry it, but with light strikes in 20 rounds with 2 different ammo I can't, which is a shame because I was pretty accurate when it did fire.

>>64469562
mine is from 62 and i've never had a failure like that. does your firing pin look fine?

>>64469664
I have no frame of reference. What am I looking for?

>>64469671
they stopped doing the firing pins like that for a reason i've seen them break or chip off the end before and cause problems. yours looks okay. did you save any of the cases that had failures to fire?
would you say it has an exceptionally light trigger pull?

>>64469562
I'd check for proper firing pin protrusion. If that looks good then maybe the main spring/hammer spring is weak.

>>64469508
Here’s the Paul Harrell video I watched for the .38 spl defense loadings.
https://youtu.be/MMYZjGsC4Nw

>>64469681
Didn't save any since my first impulse was to see if it would fire on restrike. I should have saved the shells anyway but I didn't think to do that.
>Exceptionally light pull ?
Not in double action, it's lighter than my Ruger revolvers and heavier than my HK p30 (da/sa with decocker, not the lem.)
In single action it's stupid light, like it goes off if you even think about it.
I thought maybe I fucked it up with dry fire, but the previous owner said he "had a couple duds" when he took out to the range. He's not a gun guy and probably barely touched it and I don't think his liberal fag dad used it much either. It was probably the late 60's race riot version of the 2020 liberal gun purchase. This doesn't rule out it being dicked up from day one and sold to the queer running to the gun store when the scary pictures appeared on tv.
Free gun. It is what it is.
>>64469707
How to check? Open the cylinder? How do I overcome the hammer block?
>spring weak
It's harder to pull back the hammer than on those guns I mentioned, but it is smaller.

>>64469762
SA triggers in all my smiths are awesome light, including my 36. they are a dream in that regards but I meant the double action being light too.
to check firing pin protrusion with an empty cylinder pull the trigger and keep holding the trigger pressed, you should be able to see how far into the frame the pin pokes through. nothing jumps out at me being wrong from the pictures you've posted. were the primers hit straight in the center?
but like the other anon said might be a worn mainspring.

This is how much play it has. I was told this is "normal?"

>>64469792
It's consistent in all 5. It took me a minute to realize you can see it from the side.

>>64469819
mine is a little tighter but they are supposed to wiggle.
>>64469822
looks normalish to me?
when i look through mine i'd say the pin covers about 85% of the way to the cylinder.

>>64469819
My model 36 is in practically perfect condition and it has the same amount of play. Perfectly normal.

>>64469844
what year is yours, 80s?

>>64469762
>>64469822
You can also check with the cylinder open if you pull back on the cylinder release. Though you already figured it out and it seems fine. Im guessing mainspring. Could also just have the movement impeded by old dried grease or other debris in the action. I would try a deep clean and oiling, if it still has issues it almost has to be the main spring or ammo. Also, beautiful piece you have there, anon.

>>64469906
Thank you, that's a cheap thing to try. I'm afraid to take it apart though. Do I just remove the grip and try to knock the gunk out? I'm okay with that, but the last time I tried to take a revolver apart (it had locked up brand new) I lost a spring and had to send it to Ruger. To their credit it's been flawless now and smoother.
>Beautiful piece
Thank you.

Also, since we're talking about cleaning...what would you do if, say, your wife dropped her p238 in the toilet. Like 5 minutes ago.
Asking for a friend.

>>64469958
take side plate off, blast it with cleaner of your choice, relube it and enjoy yourself. i don't think you need to take anything out to clean it, but if it still doesn't play nice and you want it to work take it to a smith.
>toliet p238
take it apart as much as you can, blast it with cleaner, dry it off the whole way, oil it.
a clean toliet, right anon?

>>64467456 (OP)
>Any good recommendations for defensive standard pressure .38 spl loads?
I have been carrying my Rossi Ladysmith clone that looks a lot like your model 60, and now this 649 I just got. I've been carrying 38 special low flash SWC, I really like them and they had impressive results on an organic target I used. They're expensive but worth the money imo
>>64469819
It's a replaceable firing pin that's pinned in place it's designed to move. Your pin looks fine just drop the hammer and don't let go of the trigger keep it at full rearward travel with your eye right up to the rear of the cylinder so you can see how far in the pin goes

>>64469979
Should mention the ammo is buffalo bore idk how I left that out
>>64469976
If you take the side plate off a smith make sure you
>Watch a video on s&w disassembly
>Use the correct sized bit for your frame screws
>Do not mix your screws up

>>64469979
heyyyy I got one of thems, I always feel like the shroud is ugly in theory, but the practicality for carry and the SA/DA option and safety of use brings me back to it being a type of functionally beautiful.

>>64469976
>>64469979
>>64469997
Thanks!
>Clean toilet?
I didn't ask...
Gotta go!

>>64470013
Haven't been able to shoot it yet but I've been looking for either a 49 or 649 for a long time, it's great having a da/sa I can pocket carry & doesn't stab me in the gut when iwb
>>64470016
No problem, highly recommend a brass cleaning rod of some kind to use as your pry tool for removing the side plate so you don't marr the steel
Also expect one piece, the hammer block, to fall out when the side plate comes off

>>64469890
Yup.
>>64469979
This Smith is peak j frame. I want to get one and retire my model 36, but I haven't found one at my LGSs with good lockup/timing for the right price. I'm considering an airweight, but I think the +p is carry would suck ass in an airweight.

>>64468520
Yes, I am probably mentally ill after not getting a good night's sleep for TEN MONTHS.

>>64468520
>t. white trash shitbull owner
I don't know why trailer park trash thinks it's okay to have dogs barking all day and night. Nor do I know why they themselves aren't bothered by it. Either way, you're a piece of shit.

>>64470032
Noted for later, I have a bunch of brass tools, but in the meantime, do I need to replace this p238 spring, it's not poop, it's rust.
I'm not asking /hg/ rn. They are having an /arg/ tier schizo attack.

>>64469958
There's plenty of videos on it. I detail stripped my Mod 60 when I got it to deep clean. It wasn't too bad, though I would caution you to take extreme care to not let any parts get rocketed away by a spring. If you aren't comfortable full stripping it i would at least pop the side plate off and get what gunk out that you can without removing parts and then drop some oil in anywhere there's metal on metal contact. Also be aware some will have a floating piece that will be loose when you remove the side plate, and also make sure the screws go back in the same holes they came out of; they are not interchangeable. Wouldn't hurt to watch a video on the disassembly.

>>64470494
clean the orange rust off, see where it's coming from. If the spring is pitted at all, eventually it will break at the pitting. If that dark brown section near the end is pitted, I wouldn't want that little chunk of spring rattling around inside my gun.

>>64470240
Not a fan of the air weights they feel like cheap shit. Some creepy fuck boomer I know from the gym has an air weight 357 hammerless on consignment at my lgs for like 650, the gun looks like it's been through a dryer filled with sand. I need to take pictures of it I haven't seen garage gunsmithing that bad before, he took a Dremel to the hammer and hit the back of the frame

Are taurus/charter arms revolvers any good or should I drop the extra for a ruger or s&w?

>>64470859
I'll order a new one. Thank you.
>>64470751
I'll definitely try it but not today. I'm tired and I'll fuck it up for sure.
Thanks!

Stick em’ up, pal!

>>64471235
Charter does let lemons through but they also have probably one of, if not, the best, customer service and warranty programs. With that being said they can be a bit rough with the finishes but if you don't mind working on your own guns they end up being decent little blasters.

>>64471235
Taurus revolvers are cheaper.

Something else that didn't occur to me about the model 36 I'm troubleshooting (I just realized the redundancy of that word as I typed it )

Unintentional puns aside, it was really accurate with the cheap eastern European FMJ's, but the Hornady critical defense was shooting really high. Now maybe it was just me and my frustration at the first 2 pulls failing to fire, but like 8 inches high at 5 yards? Not down and to the left like a flinch? Am I going to have to try all kinds of ammo to find one it likes?

Also, I don't think it's +p critical defense, but it felt way hotter than the range ammo and had a lot of flash. I bought it a year ago and forgot all the research I did. Is it safe to use +p in those old j frames?

>>64469671
Also you don't want to dry fire that as it can cause the pin to break, just in case you were unaware.

>>64471577
I think you can get away with it if you only do it a few times, but I certainly wouldn’t make it a regular diet. Just stick with standard pressure, the critical defense lite still has okay expansion and ft/lbs out of a snub.

>>64471235
Wait for a cheaper used gun from a respectable name. Revolvers are kind of overpriced all around.
>$1100+ for a gp100
Lol.

>>64468520
Its only mental illness if they’re not pitbulls

Any other dog is worth scooting to another county’s shelter

>>64471235
The tauruses that i've handled have been of notably worse quality, but still are functional. desu i think your best bet would be to shop around and see of you can find an older used s&w or ruger wheel gat that is still in good condition.
>>64471577
could be the difference in grain weight. youd be surprised how much difference that can make especially out of a snub nose

>>64471584
That's a fudd meme
>>64471577
Definitely gonna want to try different ammo, it'll all hit different. Also snubbies have a bigger learning curve than larger revolvers

>>64471813
care to explain why they have a bigger learning curve? Is it just the pull and the limited distance in the iron sights? Do they get fucked up differently? What's the ish?

>>64471818
Smaller sight radius = harder to aim
Less weight to absorb recoil so they tend to recoil harder, good reason to carry 38 +p+ in a 357 mag snubby
Of course you're not gonna get nice big open target sights just your trough and front sight, good reason to paint the front sight if that helps you (it does for me)
You want to shoot how you're going to defensively too so good reason to get used to that DA pull, it's easier once you figure out how to stage it

>>64467456 (OP)
>Any good recommendations for defensive standard pressure .38 spl loads?
Buffalo Bore makes some
https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=23

>>64471813
>That's a fudd meme
Just a tactic to sell snap caps?

White women are sluts for bbc

>>64473046
things big Snapcap doesn't want you to know. The Snapcap Fatcats are in this thread with us right now

>>64468520
animal fucker moment

>>64473067
the empty brass at the range is free, you can take them, I have 473 empty brass at home

>>64467456 (OP)
You can run +Ps with a model 60 no problem man, only the aluminum frame ones are at risk of blowing up with +P.

I have no options with my model 37 airweight, basically just FMJ. I've considered buying a 640 just for this reason. Also I've experienced single action j frame and it's not that cool, would be fine giving up the exposed hammer. This with checkered grips and a grip adapter would be titties

>>64470032
Don't pry the side plate at all bro. Get a rubber mallet or plastic screwdriver handle or something, and lightly tap the frame under where the grip panel was but not on the side plate on the same side as the side plate a few times. It should pop right off. The inertia of the plate holds it in place when you tap which works it off.

>>64470240
Even normal .38 sucks in the air weight. It is basically an instant bruise. Still awesome as a pocket carry though.

Beat it, toots. These streets ain’t what they used to be.

>>64474474
>tfw you’ll never be a hard boiled detective in the ‘50s

>>64468338
How do you walk a Taurus revolver?

>>64474540
His gun talks to him and he uses his bulldog Charter as a weapon.

>>64470370
>Nor do I know why they themselves aren't bothered by it
They are passed out drunk/high

>>64474589
They call him... cousin of sam

>>64474711
kek

>>64474589
>>64474711
>>64474819
I got to wonder if those murders helped or hurt sales. I just noticed it was the brand that killed John Lennon and Phil Hartman as well. I'm surprised I never heard about Lennon.
When I looked into the brand the stupid son of sam shit is all I could think of. I can't remember where I heard that. This makes me think of that stupid movie and John Leguizamo sucking dick at a disco orgy.
I'm going to say that didn't encourage me to buy one
But now that I know that's what killed John Lennon....
Sorry Phil.

It's kind of ugly but man, I want it. Last one went for $14k so not that bad of a price either.

>>64475099
That's insane, but I get it. Just make sure you're okay with the attention you'll get if you take it anywhere.

>>64468928
Not for saving your brass they weren't.

I just realized something and I'm surprised I haven't seen this anywhere already. After my last range trip I know why I like revolvers more. There's only recoil, there's no side movement. You don't have that shake weight jerking off in your hand. A revolver feels like a magic wand shooting fireballs. A semi auto feels like pic related.

>>64474474
I carry one of these rn, I enjoy it. It sits so low vs an auto pistol and a leather holster is so much more comfortable than kydex. Getting slightly better at shooting it but it's not really what I'd call a great defense gun for me rn

Decided to start with disassembly of the free gun with the light strikes.

First thing I notice, the screw holding the cylinder in place was loose, I could actually tighten it a little

There's actually a notch and burr here. I know that's not supposed to be like that. No way would that be normal.

Would that depression be enough to cause light strikes? Just putting it back on and tightening it might fix it, but maybe the groove it wore in the flange means it's permanent.

Or maybe this is irrelevant to the problem and within operating tolerance, I don't know.

That can't be the issue, even without the screw in the lock up is tight.
So it's the THE problem.

*not THE problem.
Not too dirty, but I'm confused how this hammer block works.

Also, it's dry as fuck. Can anyone link a good guide to where it should be oiled?

I'm not fucking with it anymore right now. I need to eat. I forgot breakfast and I'm dizzy now.

My friend dropped this on me. So, uh yeah. This thing could have had anyone done to it. After I eat I'll count the hammer spring coils and see if detective sgt fucknuts didn't do a trigger job.

Boomers larping as chads is ultimate cringe

What does this mean?

Firing pin protrusion vs US dime.

>>64477217
looks pretty dry in there. I'd oil up anywhere there's metal on metal moving contact.

>>64477898
I did.
When I first got this thing I described it:
>The single action is so light it fires off you think about it, the double action is like dragging an engine block across concrete.
With some dry fire it smoothed out a bit, but I cleaned the exposed surfaces using premium weed store swabs that minimally shed then I put a drop of gun oil in a few places that looked critical.
Now I don't feel any friction, just the spring (26 coils, so original.)
Tomorrow I think is half price range time so I think I'll see if it can get through a box and if it does I'll try the expensive shit. If it can go through ≈50 rounds of range ammo and 15 rounds of Hornady then I'll call it good and put the last 5 rounds in it and carry it casually.

Also, while doing this a terrible joke occurred to me.

What did Mark David Chapman use to clean his charter arms 38?

>>64477584
Yoy may have posted about this already, but is the timing off? What do the primers look like on the light strikes?

>>64478033
I didn't think to save them, it was a crazy day. Timing looks fine. I'm really thinking (hoping) it just needed oil. There's no lead shaving from the cylinder being unaligned. It looks lined up in every position, and the lock up is the same as my new Rugers.
I think it's just that my friend had it for years, barely shot it and never cleaned it.

I found some instructions for a Rube Goldberg tier device on a Smith and Wesson forum to measure the hammer weight using household items, but it feels heavy enough to me.
Maybe the hammer was scraping against the frame and that slowed it down enough?
I'll check tomorrow.

>>64478089
>>64477965
So it feels a good bit smoother after being cleaned and oiled? Good stuff. Hope it runs reliably for you when you try it out. If not try to get some pics of the light striked primers.

>>64477430
Looks like sear pin contact wear pattern is on yours. I don't know what that means I just compared to the chart and thats what I see.

Are Taylors and Company revolvers any good? PSA is selling them on the cheap. Never heard of Taylors and Co - are they similar to Uberti or Chiappa?

>>64478115
Last time I was rushed and had a lot of guns to shoot so I just went around and they fired on the second go.
Tomorrow I'll only bring this.
>>64478160
Yeah I didn't know either. Finding out it was a police gun bought from a fucking newspaper ad changes the possibilities entirely. It's stupid my friend didn't tell me that in the first place, he's like a fucking video game NPC, you have to specifically ask the right question.
Then you got to wonder if he's full of shit his dad was full of shit out the guy placing the ad was full of shit.
>the department upgraded to 9mm
Uh no they didn't (assuming Detroit police department) they went to 40sw first. Friend's dad was dead long before they went to 9mm.
So it's a gun my sketchy friend gave me for free and he had legit papers for it.
Shit I just looked at the papers and the photo I took the date is covered up, but it's old enough it's filled out with a typewriter.
There's a second form from this century with my friend's name, so it's legit.
It probably wasn't used very much regardless.

>>64478230
I'm assuming you're talking about the 7 shot 3" 357. I didn't know that made a modern gun.
Hmmm, a goofy looking matte black cerakoted pistol made in Italy with no reviews from a company that also imports flip 1911s from PSA at half price with no reviews. It looks a lot like the rock island 38. Same weird flat hammer spur. I bet they're made in the same place in the Philippines, assembled in Italy and imported from there.
Hard pass for me. Might be good. Nutnfancy liked two of their retro guns. One of them is a single action 9mm you don't need moon clips for. PSA doesn't have it.
Probably the cheapest 7 shot 357 I've seen.

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/shooting/pistols/olmi-963-mf-revolver/
Digging deeper, here is an article that sucks the company off. It has a fucked up two button cylinder release according to the article. You know, for all those times you accidentally release the cylinder during combat. About time that super common problem got addressed. No it has nothing to do with the fact this this is a frankengun from a company that is primarily a parts supplier (called it!)
Another article points less shill-ey points or that this model didn't appear on Taylor's or olmi's website. That's a red flag.
Thank you for your post. This is entertaining the shit out of me!

https://smith-wessonforum.com/threads/taylors-company-963-mf.708344/
This gets better and better.
Complete horror show. There's a reason they imported through t&c and are selling it through PSA and buds and shit. It's in the shitty gun protection program.
No. Don't buy it even at half price.

>>64478521
>>64478574
>>64478658
Thanks for doing the research. Guess this thing is a hard pass. I picked up one of the S&W M627 Pro series on clearance last year and have been liking it. Guess I will just stick with that for my 357 needs.

>had to remove the guns from Grandparents house because of caretaker (RIP Grandma)
>charter .44 special
I obviously wasn't winning any medals with it but jeez
I drew circles around the last 5 shots... they were aimed at the top left cross

>>64468520
Anon, pit bulls are meta in noguns zones and with criminals who are unable to legally have guns. Just the other day, this lady had 2 pit bulls and they seemed like they were about to attack. They've bitten me for unironically no reason. Fuck pitbulls man, they'll just randomly come at you for 0 reason.

>>64469182
>>64469176
That wasn't me, I only beef with /hg/. I would never post bbc on revolver general because I have no beef with you niggers. That was a different BBC poster.

>>64479554
Let me clarify something for you.
This happens to every popular breed, they get over red and develop bad temperaments. It's particularly bad with pitbulls tho. Actual pure bred pitbulls are very unlikely to attack a human, they would be useless for dog fighting it they did. It's bred out of them. The real problem with actual pitbulls is that they attack other animals.

Now what you're dealing with is more properly an ambully. You see, every trailer trash and ghetto nigger thinks they're the first one to think of the idea of breeding a pit (terrier, anti critter the name means earth) with an anti personnel guardian breed like a shepherd or mastiff.
What you end up with is something that attacks humans with the ferocity of an anti rat dog with none of the discipline.

One final note. Always be suspicious of those who promote violence against dogs. Yes there are some bad ones but they are outliers. Dogs sense bad people and most the people who go out of their way to promote violence against canines are child fuckers and tiny hats looking out for the tribe.

>>64480598
>Always be suspicious of those who promote violence against dogs
Based knower

The revolver platform has a TON of life left in it. I’m not talking about a jacket gun, or an easy grab-and-poop gun. I’m talking about wars on the moon with revolvers issued as sidearms. How? I’m glad you asked. Simple: PAYLOAD. You know what big bores are good for? Holding explosive payloads on board. I don’t know if we have the technology to do this effective yet, but the future is revolver cartridges with HE. I’m talking proximity fused explosive projectiles, time delay explosive rounds, and more. You’re innawoods, enjoying life. All the sudden, RoboGrizzly Cybernetic Troop Companion from Anduril escapes the lab and wants to eat you. .44 magnum is cool, but .44 magnum with impact-triggered 5g of PETN is going to turn its heart into jelly. Or its central computer, if you’re a crack shot. Anyway. Think BIGGER, revolver chads.

>>64479502
Nice anon. Just ignore the dog if he starts acting strange towards you

>>64480598
>Actual pure bred pitbulls are very unlikely to attack a human
Not only is this statistically and anecdotally untrue, no, it is not just as likely to happen with any other breed. I have known no shortage of people who own labs and retrievers and have never been bitten by one, and the statistics reflect that. About the only dog that is as or more likely to bite as a shitbull or shitbull mix is a chihuahua.

>.45lc muzzle energy: 300-400 ft/lbs
>.454 casull: 900-2200 ft/lbs
>.410 shell: 600-1100 ft/lbs
Why is this?

>>64480598
>Always be suspicious of those who promote violence against dogs.
I agree with you here, that's cruel thirdie behavior. The rest just reads like contrived pitbull apologetics though. I don't believe for a second that pure bred pitbulls are "very unlikely" to attack a human, or even significantly less likely for that matter. In the context of dog bites, pure bred pitbulls vs. mixes seems like a distinction without a difference. Open to convincing if you have any stats though

>>64481287
>>64481611
I don't care enough to evangelize the breed because the dog aggression is enough to make me never get one again. It's similar to how I don't bother defending the lies against trump because he's clearly supporting isreal, so I'm not wasting time correcting the false current Epstein narrative.
As far as bite rates go, the sources of data are biased as fuck or just plain retarded and a lot of the others don't get reported. The reason I'm right and it matters is that this is used to create breed bans the same way they use white mass shooters combined with nigger statistics to justify gun bans. I got rottweilers and American bulldogs now which are much less problematic. People were never the issue with the one pit I had issues with but I had to sequester her from my other dogs and couldn't get anymore until she died.
Other than the dog aggression tho, pits are the perfect analogy for AR-15s. They're not responsible for any more issues per capita but are more common because they're better (aside from what I said) and the outliers fuel the jew media propaganda.

Anyway let's get back to the fucking topic before the janny explodes.

Nah it's no good and I'm giving up on it for now. Top row failure to fire double action, bottom row successful fire in double action. I got other more important shit to worry about than a finicky model 36 that's older than me.

I should mention it seems to always work in single action. I thought maybe I'm pulling the trigger too slow but no, it happens with quick, decisive pulls. That's not supposed to matter anyway but this is literally the only Smith I've fired other than a rented 44 one time years ago.
I highly doubt a ≈15% failure rate on one of the most common platforms in history is due to my user error

>>64481784
Those are pretty light strikes. Do the DA trigger pulls feel consistent?

>>64481784
>new republic
Has to be the least consistent ammo I've ever used. The only thing I like about them is that their .357 mag 158gr load is surprisingly hot... when it does go off.

>>64481876
>Is the DA consistent?
At any given time including right now? Yes.
Over time? No. It was really bad when I got it better after some dry fire, and noticably better after yesterday when I cleaned and oiled it a bit.
>>64481952
Yeah I thought that was the problem but then the first 2 of 5 Hornady CD also failed. I stopped testing the good shit after that. Small sample size but a 40% failure rate with premium ammo makes me think it's the gun and not the slavshit ammo. My Rugers never had an issue with it iirc. Maybe one or two, you know how memory is for such things
I tried to get a pic with my left hand at the range with my finger still on the trigger but the angle isn't perfect. I wanted to compare the hammer position and see if I could see the firing pin (I can't.)
I didn't bother trying the Hornady. I'll save that shit for something that works.
>Inconsistent
That's a fact. Lots of keyholeing and some of it was so light I thought I bought +p Hornady by mistake because it was so much stronger.

>>64481984
Hmm. I guess that narrows it down to either a weak mainspring, or maybe poor headspacing...? If the chambers are pretty clean i'm guessing it's the mainspring. Should be cheap to replace.

i have a model 60-14 and a p365x and i usually find myself carrying the model 60 way more than the 365.
it's partly because the 365 has a really light and easy trigger pull and that makes me paranoid
also because i can load my 60 with one or two magnums and some nice short barrel .38 +ps

>>64483131
Playing devil's advocate, you can load different rounds in a magazine as well, and I doubt you'll have time in a real situation to rotate and line up the cylinder like choosing a golf club.
>Different ammo
How white and rich do you look? Having different ammo makes cops think you're a criminal.
>That's stupid
Cops are stupid, some departments literally have IQ ceilings. This isn't a problem if you look white and rich or at least middle class. It also helps to memorize the serial number of your EDC.

>>64483213
well the idea is that if 3/4 +ps don't make it stop, 1 shot of even the watered down magnum i have in there definitely will
but again it's mostly the lack of safety for the 365. maybe a good holster would negate that though

>>64483221
What holster are you using now? As long at it completely covers the trigger you're fine. The only danger is if it falls out and somehow lands on a broom handle or something and the trigger gets pulled.
Not that I'd discourage you from the revolver. It's probably easier to buy with it

>>64483312
haven't gotten a dedicated holster for the 365 yet. i'm waiting for the one i ordered from mika's for the revolver to arrive and if that one's as good as everyone says i'll get one made for the sig

>>64483345
Well shit. Yeah carrying a single-ish action striker with no safety in a pocket is pretty nuts. The main reason I'm trying to get this j frame working is to pocket carry it because there's no way it's going off with that heavy ass trigger. I feel like a heavy double action naked is safer than my 380 in it's cloth holster.
You know with all the bother we do with all this gun bullshit, it's almost a shame when most of us never actually shoot anyone.

>>64483360
that's the whole idea, the model 60's trigger is long and weighty so it just feels safer, even if i had a very secure holster for the 365.
only other semi auto i'd want it a cz 75 compact but that shit's expensive. i already have 75b and love it and like the idea of a smaller one but damn i've been spending too much and already have two cc-able guns

>>64475099
Ironic that the most powerful production semi auto handgun is a revolver.

>>64477053
Desu, the only gun I ever sold was a ruger P89 police trade in that had to have the slide replaced because it got re-imported from the third world after being mangled with sandpaper, maybe my uncle still has it, probably should have tried to trade it for his nickel plated viz Radom 35 with no rifling before he sold it at auction, of course he bought my Ruger after he sold his VIZ at auction, but a trade my dumb ass didn't comprehend at the time

Is there any way I can fix the short stroking issue for my Taurus model 65 3 in .357mag?
Fast da makes it catches on something after a few trigger pulls, that and the tail of the hammer spring sticking out behind the trigger is ass

>>64483438
Forgot said shitrod in question, poor thing had a horribly abused nickel plating and the best I could give it was a cerakote in a toaster oven

>>64481784
>>64481984
those are serious light strikes, i think it's a weak af mainspring.

>>64467456 (OP)
I can't find a s&w 649 for sale in california, was thinking of settling for a 638. I have to pay cash and can't charge my card online for a transfer.

Anyone know a gunshop in California that will sell me one?

>>64483806

I can't find a s&w 649 in .357 for sale in california, was thinking of settling for a 638. I have to pay cash and can't charge my card online for a transfer.

Anyone know a gunshop in Southern California that has one in stock? Would prefer new / unused.

>>64483592
Even if it works fine in single action? If the spring is the problem wouldn't it fail on both modes?
I mean, it's like 5 bucks for a new spring I'll try it anyway.

Since no one responded I looked at it and answered my own question. The hammer on this model 36 at least goes WAY farther back in single action then double action.
I figured this out the hard way by taking the plate off and looking at the mechanical bits, but I could have figured it out by slowly dry firing it and looking when the hammer drops. It's not even close.

So yeah, it totally could be fixed by a stronger spring. The only thing still bugging me is why it only happens sometimes.
If I didn't know better I'd say it has to be something else, but intermittent light primer strikes are such a normal problem that I have to assume this is possible, that a weak hammer can sometimes work and sometimes not.

>>64483821
Have you, or anyone else here for that matter shot a 638 before? I'm thinking about getting one and wondering if it recoils as bad as I think it might. I'm used to steel j frames.

>>64485535
I shoot a 637 often. With standard pressure rounds it’s not bad at all. .38 +p bites, but you won’t be shooting that at the range often. .38 +p from an aluminum jframe still isn’t as bad as .357 out of my steel 640 jframe. I want to try .357 out of a scandium jframe some day.

>>64477176
That's not pretty but it shouldn't affect the firing operation since it's your swing out pin, it might catch on when you open the cylinder and close it
>>64477217
There's a very shallow pin northwest of the round portion of the hammer block. The cutout travels in that pin
>>64477430
I would find a side plate exactly the same as your model designation because some have slight differences
>>64485244
From my anecdotal experience it's normal for SA to travel further than DA. If you're the same guy with the posts I linked to the only real problems I'm seeing is your cylinder access pin that throws the cylinder in and out and that side plate has a couple dodgy areas to my eye
Highly recommend getting the s&w shop manual off amazon

>>64485760
And with your side plate: just scrub the hell out of it with a copper brush (or true copper penny), wipe it off, dab a drop of oil and spread it with your finger. Smiths are not supposed to be dripping, there's an awesome video on YouTube I'll have to find you when I get home from a s&w armorer about everything and anything related to care & troubleshooting. It's long but a valuable watch
It might actually be this one
https://youtu.be/4ujyLn3lHBc

>>64485535
Carried a 638-2 for many years. Best way I can describe how it shoots is that it's twisty.
Bought
>>64485837
Much better shooter.

>>64478521
That gun looks mostly plastic, like the Taurus Protector.

i'm looking at a taurus 856 6 shot .38 spl 3 inch model any advice i'mm also getting the m206 spurless nickel park finish i want these for ccw

>>64485760
>>64485811
I've been figuring this out as I go. Watching the video now.
You think it's the spring? I haven't ordered it yet. I'm thinking of buying it from midwest instead of midway because they have that sig p238 spring I need as well. I'm still holding off ordering in case there's something else I want.
>Shop manual
I might be able to find a digital copy. I don't want to spend $45 on a physical book right now. I just got rid of a bunch of books I was tired of taking up space. It looks neat but after a lifetime of hoarding books I'm over it unless I really need it.

I'm going to carry a single action revolver and there is nothing anyone can do you stop me.

>>64486039
It could be, I had a bad issue of light strikes on my h&r 999 (has a very similar spring to a j frame), took it apart and the guide rod for the main spring was bent, bent it back to shape and now it shoots fine

>>64486097
I'm 35 minutes into the video. I keep having to stop and deal with this then rewind it. It's good information and it's refreshing to hear an old white guy talk normal, makes me miss my dad's crew.
I really appreciate the link.
The hammer spring strut looks straight. I'm just annoyed and having to order the spring and pay shipping, but I'm the old days it would have been a stamped, self addressed envelope and 4 to six weeks, so there's that. I'm tempted to order the nine pound spring from Wolff.

It's too bad that senoran dessert institute is a scam, I'd totally switch careers and do this for a living if I could.

Man I wish I had gotten a smaller frame 357 than the GP100. It's almost comically large and I got the 6 inch barrel too.

I know I know I can sell or trade it or buy another one but I don't want to spend the money/time to do that.

>>64478230
Taylors is an importer, they mostly import Italian coyboy guns. I bought a Uberti Remington 1875 from them and it has been excellent. They do their own in house QC on the guns they import so it takes a bit the guesswork out of buying imports.

>>64486059
ok felon

What's a good price for a Model 10-6?

>>64486409
We're you planning to carry it? I bought the 8 shot redhawk with the 5.5"and for a while I thought I should sell it, but then I took it to the range and remembered how fucking awesome it is.

>>64486268
>I'm just annoyed and having to order the spring and pay shipping,
For any smith part it's worth contacting s&w directly. I lost my elevation spring on my rear sight on my 27-2, they're exceptionally tiny. I contacted s&w for one and they said they didn't have parts for a gun that old BUT I asked if they had the same piece for a 586 which they did. It arrived and it's the exact same spring and they sent it for free, free shipping

>>64487030
Wow, three for free

>>64486521
I would carry many single action revolvers if I were a felon and there would be nothing anyone could do to stop me.

>>64485244
Yeah I was gonna say: single action goes farther back which means more time for the hammer to accelerate. As for why it's inconsistent, I would imagine it's the slight variation in primer hardness between individual rounds. Your spring is probably right on the edge between usable and total unreliability, and as such the slight difference in primer hardness could result in inconsistent results.

>>64486059
based and cowboypilled

>>64486409
>Man I wish I had gotten a smaller frame 357 than the GP100.
no you don't.

>>64487733
Its cool

Just paid $1350 shipped for this. Not sure of the year but it's an older Python. Did I do good? Other side is in similar condition

>>64489313
Seems about right. Good shootin, rick

>>64489313
Not good or bad, you paid about a fair market value if it's in good condition. The new ones are more durable with the thicker top strap.
You really won't know until you get it.
If the trigger is good and there's nothing fucked up then it's a great discount from the new ones.
But there's always the chance some asshat fucked up the timing by playing with it. This is why I wouldn't buy a used revolver online, especially an old production one with collector value. If it was that great it wouldn't be too hard to sell in person.
But it's not super cheap and the new ones are technically never so if it's from a seller with a decent rating it's probably fine.

has anyone fucked around with adjusting wolff springs? installed a power rib and rebound spring, getting light strikes on WWB. added a piece of .020 or .025 shim between the strain screw and the rib spring, getting intermittent light strikes now in single action, double action still total light strike.

other option is a new set screw style strain screw and adjust with that.

I noticed this fucking around on /hg/.
Is it my imagination, or do the stocks* on this performance center item in the catalog photo look like shit? It looks like there's horrible fit and it would be uncomfortable to shoot like that.

*stocks is s&w for grip according to old guy in linked video above. >>64485811

Hey, I have a question. Can anyone help me? Do you know of any reasonably modern revolvers (from the 1970s or 1980s at least) that have the same slightly “mechanical” and retro look as those from the late 19th and early 20th centuries? It's for a tabletop role-playing game set in our era. Thanks in advance.

>>64490526
None that I can really think of, but you could consider a Swiss 1929 Ordnance revolver (picrel). It's similar, and it's very well made, but they aren't modern. Another option would be a Hi-Standard Sentinel like the one here: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1135282928 - or the Webley: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1124016934 - or the M1895: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1136606039 - none of which are quite as modern as you want but may still work for you. If you search around on Gunbroker for a while you may find something else you like.

>>64490781
These are beautiful guns. Thanks for the help!

>>64486588
I also have one, but the 4.2” barrel version. I really like it but I am a leaf so I can’t bring it innawoods for protection or anything. However I have had it since 2019 and about 600 rounds through it and no complaints. Please annex us

>>64467456 (OP)
>Any good recommendations for defensive standard pressure .38 spl loads?
I'm just starting out reloading, tonight I made 12 rounds of 125gr Hornady FP-XTPs using 4.3 grains of Accurate #2. It'll be shot though an RIA M200 this weekend and I'll record the velocity with a buddy's chrono.

What are good 38 Special powders? What's a good reduced recoil load? I want to plink with as little recoil as possible, the gun is hefty so that should help as well.

>>64491580
I just loaded 200 rounds of 38 special with 148 gn wadcutters on 4.2gns of hp-38 which should run around 890 fps out of my Blackhawk and feel like popgun rounds.. what’s your Over all length for yours? I don’t often load 38 hot though because I just bump up to 357.

>>64491450
What's that knife?

>>64492340
Stab-O-matic 6,000,000

>>64489704
Altamont grips are all like they are poorly fit and not well rounded off on the part that touches the webbing of your hand.

>>64480914
How useful could a HEAT payload in .40-60 cal be?

I'm the asshole who's been cargo pocket carrying a security 9 without a holster. I was thinking about switching to a snubbie. Even though there's lots of better options on paper, I feel drawn to the sp101. I'm thinking the hammerless one.
The biggest thing holding me back is the sights. Some of the newer options have actual rear sights and I really like the ability to potentially upgrade to 3 dot tritium of that's possible.
Talk me out of it.
Or into it, I don't care.

Thoughts on caliber .32?

>>64494144
It's being shilled hard. I don't want it. I can see a case for EDC, but if I want more rounds and better terminal ballistics, I'll carry a semi auto. It's a way to sell more guns to hoarders.
If they made a 8 or 10 shot version that was carryable instead of just a +1 j frame that would be more appealing.

Wouldn't you at least think of buying pic related if it had 10 or 11 capacity of 327?

Nevermind, the rim diameter won't allow 10 much less 11.

>>64494144
>>64494307
32 is sublime, whether revolver or auto.

It's a step up from 22, and feels like it hits the low end of the "good enough" category. I carry either a p32 or a 32 mag J frame 95 percent of the time. Small guns go very well with small calibers. The p32 shoots better and holds more ammo than an LCP, and the 32 mag J frame is so much more fun to shoot than a 38 model.

The only two worthy sub 20 oz belt carry guns I would consider is the BG 2.0 or a 32 snub, just depends on your preference. The BG can shoot faster and hold more rounds, but requires a holster to be safe and a perfect grip to fire. The snub doesn't need a holster to be safe, will fire regardless of your grip, but is slow and only holds a few rounds.

The versatility, safety, comfort and reliability of the snub won out for me, and there is no better cartridge suited for a small revolver than 32.

>>64494480
Wake me when they make these bad boys again I'll but a pallet of 32.

When excess is best. 3" 44mag Lou Horton S&W 629 unfluted. Was always my grail gun, and happened to stumble across it at a gun show. Flashing on the throat leads me to believe its unfired, but it has a little corrosion under the grips.

I want a Rhino. Don't know when I'll buy it though. Anyone have recommendations for what barrel length? I dont plan on carrying it

Are the Zastava revolvers any good? They look pretty

Which one of these should I buy?

Probably a pinned and recessed one right? Or should I save a few bucks and get an '83 or later version

>>64489561
Set aside for a minute all the things involved in lightening a revolver action...wwb primers are extremely hard...aka not sensitive. On the spectrum of hardness its something like cci>win>rem>federal...which is to say federal primers are the softest and easiest to set off.
Back to the springs, power(wattage)..aka hammer speed is what matters, when you lighren the action with lighter springs but you don't reduce the weight of the hammer...you are not getting enough hammer velocity and therefore not enough power.
>Be me
>Shooting revolvers competitively for 15 years, 300k rounds give or take

>>64494720
retard

https://www.guns.com/search?keyword=model%2036&condition=used

>>64491580
4gn of tire group or n320 with that bullet is super light and easy to shoot, very accurate.

>>64494654
Nice

>>64494144
Black powder .32's are better than smokeless.

>>64494849
WHAT

>>64494724
>>64494720
What do you want it for? If you plan on carrying it get the one with the bobed hammer.

>>64494022
The sp101 I tried was really meh, a little less recoil than my j frame but eh.
Think I'm biased though because I always thought it's proportions were really ugly.
>>64494480
If you had to say which recoils harder is it the p32 or the snub? Is it close?

>>64494144
Bitch caliber for people with bitch hands. Even my 95 pound 5'0 wife can handle .38.

>>64494954
I feel like I want the sp101, but I can't get it with an internal hammer and real rear sight. The only way to get that is the Kimber, but I'm wary of their qc and cs. I feel Ruger will be better odds. I do want to see how they handle the every town situation tho before I give them more money.
Also, for the price of the Kimber I could almost buy 4 Rock Island m206 and put one in each pocket. New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut reloads. They can't all be bad! Make traffic stops great again.
Someone said Taurus is actually good now. Is that bullshit?

>>64475099
Update: lol. Lmao even.

>>64489313
You did great.
Most of the pre-CZ Pythons where I live go from $2500 up to $9000, with $3500 being about the average price.
Probably so cheap b/c those stocks aren't original to the gun; but if you don't like them you can change them out.
Also check the timing on the cylinder to make sure everything is okay.

>>64467456 (OP)
Revolvers are fudd or chad?

>>64475099
Update: Lol. Lmao.

>>64492301
Lyman manual says 1.470" but I'm averaging 1.462" I'm using a Lee Loader whackamole kit so it's probably me, but I can still crimp the cannelure. In fact if I tried to get exactly mid-cannelure I'd probably be set down into the high 1.440"s.

I'm going to get a much easier powder to play with next time, Acc #2 is miniscule to handle.
>>64494732
yt I'll try that one.

>>64492340
A custom v42 like dagger o1 tool steel. Beautiful blade

>>64490526
enfield revolvers were fairly late, issued in ww2 to british soldiers and used up until the 60s, probably the closest you'll get
they're similar to the earlier webley revolver which was used in ww1, and top break revolvers were a very antiquated design by that point

>>64495146
Word of advice… set up a spreadsheet. It’s boring, but lets you track your reloading history very easily and repeat old loads, also doesn’t fade like sharpie can…. I started reloading a bit over a year ago, and admittedly I dove in with gusto…. But I’m continually glad I set up a way to better track it than just a notebook.. assign lot numbers so you don’t need all the gritty details on the box, just enough to let you know what your shooting.

>>64495561
Also related to that… going shooting tomorrow. Going to be a good day. Taking the full big bore collection out. Ammo box is heavy…

>>64495568
There will be boom.

>>64494144
Not that much smaller than a .38 to be worth downsizing your caliber. If you want popgun loads you can roll your own in .38.

Is it worth it to hunt down a classic Model 19-3? I've heard that was the golden years for them. Or buy the new no lock Model 19 that Smith has been making for a few years now? Would love some input. I know this isn't as important as buying old Colt, but I figured the same thing might apply? I've heard good things about both.

>>64495833
Old model 19 is going to be a high quality work of art, but less capable of shooting high pressure high velocity. 357. New model 19 can shoot high pressure .357 all day since the new yoke design doesn't require a flat cut in the barrel by the forcing cone. QA is questionable in modern S&W revolvers though, but if you risk having to send it back a few times, it will be a stronger, though less beautiful gun.

>>64495561
That's a really good idea, I'm gonna catalogue what I've done so far. Mostly 38, but a few 308 WIN loads off a Lee kit as well.
>>64495568
>>64495570
Based based BASED

>>64495529
Oooh this one is nice. Thx

>>64495050
I feels like you're right with Ruger being the best bet in the current year, but there's no US-based revolver maker with perfect QC imo.
>New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut reloads
Kek
I don't think Taurus is necessarily good, but maybe a little better and now other companies are sinking to their level, at least their prices are somewhat in line with their quality, and they make a lot of optics ready revolvers

I am once again asking if the Zastava revolvers are any good

>>64498353
>Zastava revolvers are any good?
Are they so shit that they will they explode in your hand an blow your fingers off?
No, not with decent ammo.
Are they good?
No. Trigger and build quality are both shit.

If you're in the US you'll be better off buying a used second-hand gun.
If you desperately want a brand new revolver in that price range for some reason, the Philippine-made Rock Island revolvers are probably your best bet.

I have all kinds of guns, but no revolvers and I want to change that, but they tend to be pretty expensive. Is this thing worth it? I know it is a Tarus. The finish looks pretty decent, but how are the mechanical parts? I don't really expect to be drilling dime size holes at 50 yards, but how is accuracy for its class?

>>64497380
I'm going to hold off until they make a decision on the every town issue I think. If they cuck out I'll get a Taurus since if I'm going to live in a brown economically stratified shit hole, I should pay shit hole prices.

>>64498389
Thanks, this is the answer I feared but a great breakdown

>>64498411
I'd say it's okay.
I wouldn't trust it with my life, and owing to all those cheap-ass MIM parts, it'll have a limited service life.
But I have no reason it'll be significantly worse than an entry level S&W revolver of a similar type.

In terms of accuracy, even if the mechanical accuracy is fine, keep in mind that snub nose revolvers are notoriously difficult to shoot beyond spitting distance. If you want to reliably hit targets beyond that range with one of these things, you'll need lots of practice.

>>64498513
That seems pretty reasonable. I mostly just want something for my gangster/film nior larp. I'll carry some plastic crap for defense.
I started by looking at the Rock Island M206, but I hear that thing is pretty rough and frankly, I think the Roscoe looks cooler/better for not a lot more money. It does kind of bug me that the Roscoe and Models 36 and so many other small .38s are only 5 shots, especially when the Colt Detective Special is 6 shots (not that I really need that extra round for anything). The Colt is what I really want, but I don't want to drop a grand on a gun I might not like shooting.

>>64496522
Today was a good day.

>>64469174
>>64469508
the 110gr FTX standard pressure penetrates about the same as the +P, with less consistent expansion

>>64473710
I do not know of a current production aluminum frame that is not explicitly rated for +P

>>64494144
very difficult to find ammo for .32 revolvers

>>64494307
nice piece. I want one of the 5 inch ones eventually.

>>64498639
That's not mine I pulled that pic as an example.
My 8 shot is too big to carry so you wouldn't bother with 327 anyway.

gunsmith here, anyone know how this piece of shit managed to cause bullet setback? ive never even seen that in a revolver but a customer brought this in and im at a loss for words because i loaded fresh cci out the box and after firing i noticed it (also light primer strikes on both rounds its a double barrel revolver)

>>64494144
I love my 1928 5th model hand ejector .32-20 and 3.8gr of hp-38 behind a 115gr hardcast is plenty spicy, unfortunately the brass is fragile as fuck. haven't bothered trying reloading for .32 S&W it's too damn small, same with .32acp. kinda want to see if I could develop a load for .32-20 using the steel core bullet from that surplus s&b .32acp that's kicking around, but 71gr is pretty light for a revolver and i have no idea where to start with lighter loads

>>64499387
the rounds in question

>>64490526
Maybe the charter arms classic bulldog is what you're looking for

>>64499387
….im not even mad, I’m impressed.. i mean i also don’t have any idea… but still…. When you got it to do it again was it the same chamber in the cylinder or is it random?

>>64499387
no real mystery here, two 22 mags going off at once is more recoil than the other 22 mags in the cylinder are designed to withstand without setback

>>64499566
so youre saying nothing actually pushed against the bullet to set it back? it was just the sheer recoil that pressed it into the casing through inertia? because i figured the crimp of the casing would have been strong enough to prevent that

>>64499646
the crimp is meant to prevent that from happening from the recoil of a single 22mag, which is not how that abomination is used

>>64498630
You didn't even have to use the AK

>>64494954
Depends on what you're shooting out of the snub. I would say from least recoil to most...
32 long from the snub, 32acp from p32, 32 mag from snub.

Realistically, the 32 long and 32 acp are pretty similar, the snub weighs a bit more but the p32 has a recoil spring, probably a wash.

I will say that the p32 is more difficult to shoot regardless of ammo because it's just so damn small. I can find a nigh on infinite amount of different grips to accommodate my hands with my J frame whereas with the p32 not so much. The p32 "sights" are abysmal, not sure why kektec doesn't just release a slightly enhanced gen3. I know it's not a best seller but it is a cult classic.

>>64498639
>very difficult to find ammo for .32 revolvers

That's like saying it's very difficult to find /K/. If you can use the Internet, b you can find ammo easy. I mainly shoot 32 long anyways.

>>64499566
>>64499646
I ain't no rocket gynecologist or nothing, but wouldn't the force of recoil be acting in the opsite direction?
I would think the bullet would have the momentum to stay where it was while the cylinder acted on the rim of the cartridge. Essentially pulling the case away from the projectile.
My retarded theory is that perhaps some propellant gas is acting on the projectile. It's a pretty weak one, but you could test this by shielding the other chambers somehow. I have no idea how that doesn't include welding or machining. I don't think tape would work.
Is it related to one particular chamber(s) or the relative position in the cylinder i.e. the chamber(s) in the 6 o'clock position?

>>64490526
I don't think this is quite what you mean, but the Metaba Unica 6 is a pretty "mechanical looking" revolver, but it looks more modern than what you specified.

>>64490526
Another probably useless suggestion is the Manurhin MR 73. It was used by the French police for a while including SWAT style units. It is considered to be an extremely well made revolver and is pretty niche, so maybe you could use that for something else. Like something for a wealthy or otherwise particularly discerning character.
Good luck with your game, fren.

>>64501097
>I ain't no rocket gynecologist or nothing, but wouldn't the force of recoil be acting in the opsite direction?
Yeah, it should. Typically the rounds crimp jump under recoil (pull apart) like you said. That's really weird that setback is occurring.

>>64501111
>>64501141
No you're suggestions are not useless, thanks for taking the time to answer my question!

The Mateba is really cool but Iyeah not exactly what I was looking for. But the Manurhin is very nice, a bit old school. I'll look into it.

>>64499413
This one is also quite cool. I believe the unprotected ejector rod is a bit what I was looking for

>>64501227
The trick to make it look exotic is to put shit on it or doesn't need.
Pic related, target grips.
Reminder that the Star Wars prop guy just put a flash suppressor and rifle scope on a broom handle Mauser and called it a "blaster." They didn't even bother modifying the stormtrooper guns.

Also, this guy hasn't uploaded in a decade but he has some short videos on some beautiful revolvers that fit your aesthetic.
Y'all remember LIFESIZEDPOTATO?
https://youtube.com/@lifesizepotato?si=ykBSaN8-0n0ErWJb

>>64498513
Would this be a better gun than the Roscoe?

900 rounds in and I'm half tempted to replace my carry model 19 with this.

Smith releases new model 19s without the lock, I decide to trade in mine for a no lock, and none of my local gun stores will fucking stock them so I can inspect one to buy. It's so annoying.

Anyone have any experience with the diamondback sdr? Considering buying it instead of hunting down and overpaying for a stainless Smith j frame that will inevitably have a wobbly cylinder.

>>64501111
Im so thankful that I've been cured of the autism I had in my youth that made me think these things were cool. A pox on Italy and a pox on these monstrosities.

>>64501899
They are pretty cool. I wouldn't want to buy one, but I appreciate the mechanical novelty.

>>64501889
By my way of thinking it's a no brainer. What else you buy it for? Memes?

>>64501998
I'm hesitant for partially the same reason I don't carry my vintage 19 and instead got a new one to begin with. I don't necessarily want to put holster wear and sweat on and shoot the shit out of a nice gun. I like to keep my nice guns and my using guns separate. Plus it is a bit bulkier and harder to draw. I know you can get the slimline wood grips, but I prefer rubber and grip options for mr73s are very limited.

>>64501889
Do you have the carry comp version? How obnoxious is the comp?

>>64502075
No, the few k comps I finger fucked had problems. Most of the standard 4 inch 19s and 66s I tried did too. I passed on 5 guns before I found one that was almost as nice as my vintage 19. That's why I won't just buy one online.

>>64498411
I have a couple of heritage guns and I wouldn't use them as anything other than range toys/trainers. They are rough riders which are cheap but they had a number of (solvable) issues, but I wouldn't carry their rosco. I also handled one and even for a snubby they're VERY small. I'm the guy with the 649 & the Rossi, I would recommend getting a used smith or a Taurus if you're more budget minded. I know Taurus owns heritage but the quality is better on Taurus revolvers than heritage's Roscoe's in my opinion. Plus the size really puts me off

>>64502074
>>64502085
Watch your grainage with 19/66, 110/125s can lead to cracked forcing cones
I have a 13-2 that I feed a healthy diet of 38spc for that reason and save the 357 for my 27-2

>>64502097
Didn't ask. I'm no novice. It's also not a problem with the new ones with the yoke redesign.

>>64502085
What sort of problems did you see? I'm reading of a ton of s&w qc issues lately even more than just the typical 1 or 2 lemons.

>>64502156
Ejector rods so crooked they would get stuck when you pushed them back. Excessively heavy triggers(15+ lbs). Guns that have slow or late timing on one or two chambers. "Bumpy" double action where you can feel stops and jumps through the pull. I also got given a new 27 as a gift and it came with a crooked cylinder shaving lead on two chambers and cutting the shit out of my hands brand new out of the box. Machinery may be good enough to make "working" guns with tighter tolerances now, but I'm convinced you still need a human to actually fine tune and smooth them out.

>check out ammo prices
>learn that .45 acp is cheaper than .38 special
>the urge to get a .45 acp revolver comes back again
Someone save me from impulse purchasing a .45 ACP Model 25.

>>64502176
It truly sucks how far they've fallen since moving their headquarters to TN.

>>64502074
If that's how you get your dopamine, from pretty guns that's your business. By my way of thinking it's built for a job and I'd use it for what it's for.
The grip thing is legit tho. It's a duty gun not CC. If the Smith is working for you then maybe don't mess with it.

>>64502207
Moon clips suck.

>>64502322
The good news is every now and then they do slap together just the right combination of parts and somehow make a gun that feels about as nice as an old smith. The new 19 I did end up getting is straight, properly timed, smooth action, and has a fine trigger at 8-10 lbs somewhere around. Just you cannot buy one without inspecting. It truly is suffering being a smith enjoyer. Have to wade through piles of shit for new guns to find the good ones, have to wade through old guns with owner induced damage and abuse for old guns. End up rejecting 2/3rds of the guns I handle just due to defects or abuse alone. I noticed the same thing in all the YouTube reviews for the new 66s and 19 classics. You have one YouTuber saying his gun works fine but has a 15 pound trigger, another saying theirs is fine with an 8 pound, and 2 more with guns that break during their video. It's a shame that the k frame is my favorite design.

I will say though I did buy the mr73 online sight unseen, and when I got to me it had 0(zero) issues whatsoever in function and was equal or greater to my nicer old smiths. I don't believe the hype about them being indestructible because of all the broken police surplus ones we got a decade back that proved they break just like everyone else. Magnums just destroy guns and every magnum revolver gets end shake eventually, but in terms of smoothness fit and finish, the quality is what you expect.

I ordered the spring last week for my (allegedly) Detroit police issue 1967 model 36. The YouTube algorithm fed me a local NBC special filmed one week after the '67 Detroit riots. It's super comfy.
https://youtu.be/xH-x7uGSDZM?si=uEM3QAL9h92yy-CL
Here I am dry firing at Mitt Romney's dad as he declared not!marshall law.

I can't wait for this fucking spring. I'll give it a through cleaning using that guide anon linked from the former police armorer who took the course from Smith.
https://youtu.be/4ujyLn3lHBc?si=EoAkJAiB1l1moW5R

Maybe it will work and I can actually carry it

>>64502358
The keeping it nice thing is more for my old smiths that are only going to get harder to replace over time you know. I'm halfway on the mr73 but the fact that I cant put pachmyer compacs on it is the main thing holding it back. The big lip on the trausch grips snags more easily, and it's harder to get your hand in the right position quickly because its not smooth enough to slide up or down. I'm still genuinely faster with my 19, but now that i can get one without a lock, I've spent all year hunting for one to trade and haven't seen a single no lock classic 19.

>>64502207
an S&w governor is cut for 45 acp moonclips and also shoots 45 LC and 410 shotgun shells…

>>64502411
She's a good workhorse that I shoot the shit out of and I'm not afraid of wearing out, but if I can get one without the completely unnecessary mechanical components I will.

>>64502207
I do believe the Charter Arms Pitbull doesn't require moon clips and clocks in at just about $400.
https://gun.deals/search/apachesolr_search/678958745207

>>64502086
>I wouldn't use them as anything other than range toys/trainers.
Are they really that bad? What are the known issues? I wouldn't be inclined to move away from plastic auto pistols for self defense, but I would be interested to know all the same.

Do you guys think Smith will announce more no-lock guns at shot show this season?

>>64502754
Probably since they've expanded their no lock series 3 times so far. That indicates its both successful, and they're willing to keep going.

>>64502754
>>64502774
Depends if they have sold out of the lock models they haven't converted yet.

Bump. Still waiting for my spring.
Thread on page 10.

>>64504938
From midway usa? If that doesn't do the trick you can also try a power just j frame hammer nose, it's just slightly longer for better strikes

>>64505858
*power custom

>>64505858
I ordered from Midwest gun works because they also have the SIG p238 spring kit and this way I only pay shipping once.
I hope that will do it, I don't want to fuck with the firing pin if I can help it. Thanks for the option tho.

Should I bother with a decent shape Security Six for a good price? It's not exciting and I don't need it, but...

wooo just signed up for concealed weapons permit classes. I get to larp a gumshoe with a snubby lil wheel gun (I work from home and never go anywhere). What's the best carry style for a hard-boiled detective?

>>64506548
Inside a coat pocket

Anyone know if it’s possible to rebarrel a Taurus hunter with a .510 barrel instead of the .500? Am messing with a .510 wildcat in a contender barrel, would like to put it in a revolver if it works out, would have to be the long cylinder BFR which is rather not do but unfortunately is the easiest option…. Taurus hunter fits a 460 so it would have the needed length.. technically an xframe might work as well but would have significantly higher starting prices.

Kind of want to get a new S&W Model 19 "Classic" no lock. I want a gun with no lock but can be ran hard and not have to cry about wearing out or damaging an old irreplaceable one. How bad is smith's QC really these days? Also how shit is MIM really? Would it be worth replacing MIM parts with billet aftermarket stuff like power custom or would it more than likely be G2G for several thousand rounds? I shoot a lot with my semi autos and want a revolver than could keep up even shooting primarily full power .357

Can I hangout with you guys?

>>64495113
DO IT ANON

>>64507272
Read up like 7 posts and I talk about my experience with new smiths. Start here
>>64502085

As for MIM. They say the MIM of today is far better than the MIM of the 90s, and I'm willing to believe that. If it as strong as forged? Probably not, but then again, even the old guns only have a thin layer of hardening on the functional lockwork parts and aren't heat treated all the way through.

As for aftermarket parts, if you want to rely on it as a defensive gun, I would not. If its a range toy, do whatever, but personally replacing lockwork is something I will not do.

Any revolver is going to wear out faster if you shoot nothing but magnums in it. You will get endshake faster and it will cause other problems eventually. Doesn't matter if its a K frame, N frame, Ruger, Colt, or whatever. The new 19s are redesigned to handle it better with the new yoke retention screw and forcing cone, but you're still going to shoot the gun loose exponentially faster with all magnums.

Will buffalo bore 110gr 38sp +p cause harm to a model 64 from the 80's?

i love scandi jays.
has just enough rounds so after some mugger mag dumps 9mm in me i can shoot him and then put myself out of my misery

phone takes pictures too large to post tho and capcha wait time is a pain for phoneposters

I've always wanted a revolver but being mentally retarded I couldn't find one I really like and the rhino is worse looking cousin of the mateba. So I got a mateba. Also what the fuck is this captcha now

Just bought pic rel. Pietta in 45 LC.
Now we wait for shipping.

>>64506548
This
>>64506576
a shoulder holster or strong side 1 o'clock, for some reason. I'm really into this genre and that's one of the only places I've actually seen depicted on film. Specifically in "White Heat (1949) staring James Cagney. It's a good flick, but not even his best crime film. The Roaring Twenties (1939) or better still, The Public Enemy (1931) are amazing. Technically, none of those are detective movies, but White Heat is one of the only times I can recall seeing a snubby in a holster.
This YT videos has a great list of movies and I screen capped pic related from a thread about "What would you carry as a 1920-30s detective?"

>>64508479
Very nice anon. I almost bought that one too, but since I already have 2 Unicas I figured I'd let somebody else have it lol. Also, I'm sure you're aware, but the wood grips are prone to cracking, especially on the 44 version. There's a guy that's in the process of making CNC aluminum grips for them though, you can find his thread/contact info here: https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/calling-all-mateba-fans.2026344/

>>64506548
Oh, yeah. What kind of revolver do you have?

>>64510325
I are am retarded
https://youtu.be/56SOzgTMFI0

What are the best defensive loads other than wadcutters out of a 2in snub nose?

>>64510325
>touch of evil (1958) is absent
shit list

>>64510367
a heavy xtp will do ya

>>64510379
It's on they list in the YT videos.

>>64468338
You are too based to own a firearm.

>>64507901
why did you pick buffalo bore?

>>64510341
I got one of these and a cowboy 22 ruger SA I was playing with for a while that likes to spin

>>64510737
FAT

Anybody know of any used MR73s for sale around $2-2.5k? thx :)

>>64467456 (OP)
>Remington
I just like it

>>64511177
Sick, anon. I just ordered pic rel today. I’m so psyched. I’m planning to get a hand loader and load it up with black powder.

>>64507324
Of course, friend.

>>64468928
Name a 7+ round autoloader that will reliably cycle .44 magnum or something stronger, range ammo through hunting/dangerous game loads?

AFAIK there’s literally only one and it’s only reliable with 50-aint-economical relatively unobtanium ammo, in a narrow range of loadings

And still .357 magnum will wipe the floor with 10mm if one abandons snubs and returns to big iron. 6" to 8" barrels deliver the goods. G40 is ok but, glock.

>>64511399
thanks friendo. it's a sweet little fantasy snubby, it being an italian piece just invokes a sense of a spaghetti western crossed with a noir detective special, and i'm super interested in those kirst converted cylinders with the port and apparently ejector assembly.. it's kind of beautiful albiet nay practical for much.

>>64510755
They're soft civilian hands. Never done an honest days work in their life. Aristocratic almost.