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Anonymous No.64481559 [Report] >>64481593 >>64481645 >>64481668 >>64481757 >>64481782 >>64482056 >>64482345 >>64482502 >>64482891 >>64483810 >>64485195 >>64486298 >>64486915
Why don't they just invent stronger metal and put it on tanks? Artillery and anti tank missiles btfo
Anonymous No.64481593 [Report] >>64481623 >>64482564 >>64485992
>>64481559 (OP)
"Invent new metals" lol
Anonymous No.64481602 [Report] >>64481645 >>64485992
Tungsten armor is too expensive if thats what you mean.
Anonymous No.64481623 [Report] >>64481651
>>64481593
You'd have been blow away when they first made steel
Anonymous No.64481645 [Report] >>64483798 >>64486015
>>64481559 (OP)
Sexy.

>>64481602
Yeah I wondered that but depleted uranium has to be, in price terms at least, expensive
Anonymous No.64481651 [Report] >>64481690 >>64481749 >>64481767 >>64482450
>>64481623
Steel wasn't a new metal, just a new alloy, and was done back when humanity was insanely primitive and had no idea what the elements were or atoms or matter in general worked. There aren't any "new metals" to find or invent, unless maybe the island of stability both pans out AND has decent other properties AND can be made for less than $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$/kg and thus isn't merely a lab experiment. Nanomaterial stuff might someday enhance armor a bit more, but it'll be chasing diminishing gains.

The real answer:
>Artillery and anti tank missiles btfo
active defense is the name of the game now OP. Reactive armor has been a thing for a long time of course, but more and more DEWs, active kinetic interceptors and so on. That'll be the new armsrace.
Anonymous No.64481668 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
They did. Then better anti-tank missiles came out.
>Artillery
Can't armor treads.
Anonymous No.64481690 [Report] >>64481767 >>64485992
>>64481651
Well a new alloy or new material then
Anonymous No.64481749 [Report]
>>64481651
I think I read about ultrastiff metamaterials once. Can't find the details atm though.
Anonymous No.64481757 [Report] >>64485184
>>64481559 (OP)
Apocalypse looks ugly, is there a Rhino and Grizzly?
Anonymous No.64481767 [Report]
>>64481690
>>64481651
if you guys want the sad answer, the reality is that once you send a fast enough projectile at something, the binding forces between a matrix of metal atoms just kind of stops mattering, the projectile itself does not have this disadvantage, as it can completely lose all structural integrity and still be a relatively bullet-shaped mass heading towards the target and through the armor with each individual atom having so much momentum that it just keeps going.
that's why modern composite armor attempts to deflect and dilute as much of this momentum as possible over a larger area through many many layers of hard, heavy materials that hit the projectile and damage/fracture it, and soft plastically deforming layers that absorb the force and transfer it more slowly.

a single homogenous metal simply cannot compare, even if you made it 3x as dense and made it's atomic bonds require much more energy to break.
Anonymous No.64481782 [Report] >>64481948
>>64481559 (OP)
the retards don't event use adamantium or mithril
basically they are evil and want tankers to die
probably for fiscal zionist raisins
Anonymous No.64481785 [Report]
>you cant armor threads.
You can link the Power train togheter so It keeps going After One Is destroyed by adding redundancy
Anonymous No.64481948 [Report]
>>64481782
hey man if you got rune tank armor I can trim it for you
Anonymous No.64482056 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
>Why don't they just invent stronger metal and put it on tanks?
Because if you could just invent magically stronger metals you'd be too busy counting the trillions of dollars you'd be getting from using/licensing it for civilian use to be thinking much about tanks.
Anonymous No.64482345 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
what do you think composite armor was
Anonymous No.64482450 [Report] >>64485392
>>64481651
You'd be surprised how much perfecting the micro-structure of existing metals strengthens them. If we could remove any impurities or mini-fractures, there's still room to make metals like titanium much stronger than they are currently.
Anonymous No.64482502 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
Rivers, bridges, roads, recovery, and air mobility.
Anonymous No.64482564 [Report] >>64486515 >>64486856
>>64481593
>nooo you can't invent new metals
>you can't just make planes noo
>no no stop making Mind/Machine Interfaces
>no stoooop
>nooo
You can talk to me when you figure out handgonnes.
Anonymous No.64482891 [Report] >>64485392
>>64481559 (OP)
Why don't they just make them out of diamond, the hardest metal?
Anonymous No.64483798 [Report]
>>64481645
DU isn't that pricey because there's virtually no civilian applications for it.
Anonymous No.64483810 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
>Why don't they just (insanely advanced achievement)?
I don't know, Anon. Maybe they're just waiting for you personally to wander into their labs and tell them how to fucking do it.
Anonymous No.64485184 [Report] >>64485195 >>64486298 >>64486896
>>64481757
High speed, low drag
Anonymous No.64485195 [Report] >>64485212
>>64485184
>>64481559 (OP)
I love these.
Any more?
Anonymous No.64485212 [Report]
>>64485195
I saw one pic of a Rhino, but it looked like a lower quality kit
Anonymous No.64485392 [Report]
>>64482450
If we could get manufacturing down tò a single atom we could also make funnier kind of armor such has those that deform in strange ways tò Better xope wihl overpressure
>>64482891
Diamonds break like glass when exposed tò High Energy.
Anonymous No.64485992 [Report] >>64486032
>>64481690
>>64481602
>>64481593
what if they invent Luna Titanium and make giant robots (aka mechs or "mecha" in japanese) out of them?
Anonymous No.64486015 [Report] >>64486292
>>64481645
>depleted uranium has to be, in price terms at least, expensive
Why would it be? Uranium is twice as prevalent in the earth's crust as tungsten, and it's only used for nuclear reactors in tiny amounts. Tungsten is both rarer and more generally useful, so it's far more valuable.
Anonymous No.64486032 [Report]
>>64485992
Mobile suits made of Gundarium get blown up or mission killed all the time, it might be difficult but it isn't impossible. Depleted uranium projectiles and shaped charges would certainly hurt everything but the chest, and directed energy weapons obviously work in universe.
Anonymous No.64486292 [Report] >>64486443
>>64486015
Uranium has to be depleted to be safe to use, otherwise it's in just the right sour spot of being too radioactive to be around but not radioactive enough to settle down in an acceptable time period.
Anonymous No.64486298 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
>>64485184
Did you make this dumbass thread to post pictures of these models?
If so, I approve. Post more of them faggot!
Anonymous No.64486443 [Report]
>>64486292
No it doesn't. Depletion only reduces the already negligible radioactivity of natural uranium by about 40%. The reason that DU is used is because it's already been mined and refined, and putting it to use helps to reduce the millions of tons of toxic depleted uranium hexafluoride sitting in rusting steel drums around the country because the government decided not to use the million-year vault it built.
Anonymous No.64486450 [Report]
Tungsten and uranium are formed by powder sintering, which should have disadvantages in terms of bonding strength, so why does APFSDS not shatter when colliding with armor?
Anonymous No.64486515 [Report]
>>64482564
SMAC!

"There are two kinds of scientific progress: the methodical experimentation and categorization which gradually extend the boundaries of knowledge, and the revolutionary leap of genius which redefines and transcends those boundaries. Acknowledging our debt to the former, we yearn, nonetheless, for the latter."
Anonymous No.64486856 [Report]
I don't know whether to correct OP or to let him go ahead and invent aluminium-bronze tanks because that would look rad af.

>>64482564
It still makes me smile that they had the human genome project as a future wonder tech.
Anonymous No.64486896 [Report]
>>64485184
Are these Chinese? There's a huge and still active RA2 community there.
Anonymous No.64486915 [Report]
>>64481559 (OP)
Material science stalled out since the 70's, even before that very few alloys where an improvement on steel in any way it matters for tank armor.
Anonymous No.64486920 [Report]