Thread 64493184

About a month ago, the USA started providing Ukraine with comprehensive intelligence information to assist with strikes on energy infrastructure in russia. Since then it seems that there have been a number of highly effective attacks: this one, for example, forced the complete closure of a plant responsible for over 5% of russia's entire oil refining capacity.

What sort of intelligence would the USA be able to provide that enables these strikes? Like, given the drone and missile equipment being used to conduct them, what specific information makes one strike more effective than another? Maps of air defense coverage and gaps? Intel about under-protected facilities? But I'm not sure how even that would make a missile strike more effective?

>>64493184 (OP)
Yes. Everything.

>>64493184 (OP)
Our intelligence is the best in the world. We have spy satellites that can take pictures so good from space that you can read a post-it note on a fridge. We've been giving all of this information to Israel forever, so we might as well give it to Ukraine.

>>64493184 (OP)
Russia will rebuild everythiung with the help of China. Once war ends, Russia oil/gas output will be larger than ever. Cope even harder.

>>64493184 (OP)
the location of russian air defense installations to allow for a safer routes
maps of russian radar coverage
anything and everything else you can think of

>>64493205
bruh

>>64493205
>-ACK!
>>64493207
Yeah but I was more asking what specifically has allowed for more effective strikes like this? Like what in particular would enable this strike, which wasn't possible 3 months ago?

>>64493205
Does that mean China will get ownership of the refineries?

>US intelligence
Curious, if that is true the intelligence they're receiving in current year is weirdly vatnik tier, did trump finally discovered that destroying gazprom will increate US revenues?
During 2024 the US aided Budanov with the Toropets destruction and 2 large stockpiles (around April) that caused a notorious ammo shortage (both artillery and glide bombs).
Now they're forced to target electric substations (kinda a waste of time), the refinery attacks is a longer term strategy and works like fallback if they don't have intelligence, for obvious reasons: refineries don't move

It isn't like Russia isn't using their drones, glide bombs and artillery anymore, but for some reason I don't see complete explosions

>>64493236
It's called an investment.
>>64493220
>>64493226
>>64493229
Striking refineries doesn't change the fact that Russia is sitting on more fossil fuels than the rest of the world combined. After the war ends, Russia will produce record amount and sell everything to China, while europe and America gets stuck with record high energy prices.

>>64493246
>Russia is sitting on more fossil fuels than the rest of the world combined
Nah, they've just been the quickest to sell off what they've got

>>64493246
Why couldn’t Russia do that before the war?

>>64493246
The US is a net oil exporter and they are crippling their energy industry with regulations.

>>64493246
>Russia is sitting on more fossil fuels than the rest of the world combined.
then why is their economy so dogshit?

>>64493246
Striking refineries aids the war effort now. It is also going to be funny after the war when Russia is reduced to an economic colony of China.

>>64493200
>We have spy satellites that can take pictures so good from space that you can read a post-it note on a fridge
no we don't. this isn't possible with any technology. the atmosphere blurs everything and the absolute maximum resolution you can achieve from space is about 5-10 cm/pixel

>>64493246
After the war, China is going to swoop in and take whatever the fuck they want from Russia because there will be nobody left to stop them.

>>64493253
This doesn't account for shale oil&gas, or the oil/gas in the arctic circle or the gas/oil still in the remote regions of Russia that haven't been discovered yet. There's still large of regions of the east that are very unexploited
>>64493256
>>64493268
Russia was and still is the oil/gas superpower of the world
>>64493258
America is drilling for shale. Highly expensive, $70 a barrel to breakeven and it's not gonna last forever. Another decade before the Permian runs out. Tick tock... mutts.
>>64493278
Whatever. China isn't gonna take nukes away.

>>64493281
Have you never heard of hyperbole?

>>64493244
It's no secret that Bidens' admin was not interested in actually helping Ukraine. The slow-walk of aid that would have mattered more in 2022, the stupid conditions for strikes and taking OOK OOK WE WILL NOOK seriously, the state department spoke outwardly about helping Ukraine win but in private clearly meant for them to be consumed, sacrificed completely, as an asset to trap Russia into a costlier war for as long as possible instead of a faster decisive defeat. Also, it was meant to tie Europe down and indebt them in much the same way.

Orange man is simply too proud and too schizo to do that so he's flip flopping and lashing out. This has both hindered and helped Ukraine in many different ways. Less material aid but more economic and diplomatic pressure on Russia, which in raw numbers might be better long term.

>>64493295
>Russia was and still is the oil/gas superpower of the world
not in this reality lol

>>64493184 (OP)
Russias oil industry is in collapse because the new secondary sanctions force lukoil to sell off all its foreign assets in the US and EU that brought in hard currency and its assets in Russia can't be protected by the Russian military spinging out a new PMC that welds cope cages on oil refineries and holding tanks that do fuck all since the Ukranians now use tandem warheads and sends patrols out to drive around in circles.

Ukrainne is not just winning it's being handed a viactory that was beyond their wildest dreams, a disarmed and bankrupt Russia.

>>64493295
>Russia was and still is the oil/gas superpower of the world
Russia is absolutely mogged by OPEC alone

>>64493281
That was maybe true 10 years ago, but things advance rapidly.

>>64493291
>If you own the bank $1million, the bank owns you
>If you own the bank $100 billion, you own the bank

If anything, China can't do anything to their main fossil fuel, mineral and food supply. We will own China. Offend Russia and they get their gas and food cut off. What are they're gonna do? Invade and get nuked?

>>64493302
>It's no secret that Bidens' admin was not interested in actually helping Ukraine.
> Less material aid but more economic and diplomatic pressure on Russia,
Trump is the best asset of Putin and he has approved Z E R O aid, not only that, he's delaying sales and shipments to Ukraine/proxies. He should get tested for HIV.

Go
fuck
your
self
IMBECILE.

>>64493295
Ah it is you again, the dictatorshill and liar. Very distinct posting style.

07.11.2025
Tanks — 11330 (+1)
Armored fighting vehicle — 23543 (+2)
Artillery systems — 34301 (+13)
MLRS — 1535
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1238 (+1)
Planes — 428
Helicopters — 346
UAV — 78678 (+248)
Cruise missiles — 3918
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 1
Cars and cisterns — 66723 (+65)
Special equipment — 3993 (+2)
Military personnel — aprx. 1148910 people (+1170)

Suck it up you fucking bum.

>>64493184 (OP)
>Russian refineries inside Russia being blown up
>Russian refineries outside of Russia being seized
This war was literally the stupidest thing Russia could have done. They could have had everything they wanted if they just did nothing.

>>64493313
Russia still has the cheapest oil and gas in the world. And the largest supply. And direct pipelines to the biggest consumers, Europe and China.

>>64493327
and yet russia is africa-tier

>>64493342
Russia is nowhere near Africa tier you retard.

>>64493320
>Very distinct posting style.
Nah, this is obviously Armatard / Warriortard, not dictatorshill. It could also be Robert/Todd.

>>64493347
This, Nigeria has a lower suicide rate.

>>64493318
>the zigger mindset in action

>>64493298
misinformation =/= hypoerbole

>>64493314
it's fundamentally impossible to see things more clearly than that using light. the information no longer exists after being blurred by the atmosphere.

>>64493353
>>64493355
yes I remmeber when African countries launched their own space station to orbit...

>>64493377
>it's fundamentally impossible to see things more clearly than that using light. the information no longer exists after being blurred by the atmosphere.
source: you made it up

>>64493379
how's that space program looking these days?

>>64493379
Mir was launched by the USSR, not by Russia. The USSR critically included non-dysgenic countries such as East Germany and Ukraine.

Any lost oil revenue will soon be superseded and eclipsed by russia's booming tropical fruit exports.

>>64493379
Wasn’t that the Soviet Union?

>>64493389
East Germany was populated by Germans and was thus different from Russia, but Ukraine are slavs just like Russians are lol.

>>64493380
nope. source: https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2019/09/us-spy-satellites-at-diffraction-limit-for-resolution-since-1971.html

>>64493392
It seems putin has won banan

Seriously, this means nothing in the long run. Blowing up a handful of refineries now doesn't change the fact that Russia has trillions of tons of existing oil and gas reserves and the world can never turn away from fossil fuels. It may take another decade or two, but eventually Europe and the rest of the world will come begging to buy oil like a drug addict needing another fix.

>>64493418
>Russia has gazillions of tons of existing oil and gas reserves

>>64493418
>This is what Ziggers believe
Just like the real Russian army hasn't been deployed

>>64493418
how it started:
>2 more weeks

how it's going:
>20 more years

>>64493319
>I prefer the puppet on the left
>the puppet on the right is more to my liking
lol

>>64493418
China just invented thorium reactors.

>>64493446
>I'll pretend retardation to avoid the topic
>the topic: the US president is a russian collaborator

>>64493431
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroleum_exploration_in_the_Arctic

The arctic circle has a insane amount of unexplored fossil fuels. And it all belongs to Russia.
>>64493432
Prove me wrong. Unless we get nuclear fusion, oil and gas will always have it's place. Even today, europe is still buyying tons of Russian oil and gas
>>64493448
Still another 20-30 years away from commercial use.

>>64493452
Well, sort of. Biden and Trump both answer to Israel and are beholden to them, and the largest ethnicity among Israel's ruling class is Russian.

>>64493319
The funny thing is Putin had Trump as an ally but flushed it down the toilet because he’s too stubborn to come up with a realistic plan to get out of the war.

>>64493448
People are still hyping this meme up huh?

>>64493453
> In 2021, Russia supplied 45% of the EU's gas and 27% of its oil. By 2024, these dropped to 19% and 3%.
Seems like a big drop.

>>64493453
>According to Russia's media, the geologists returned with the "sensational news" that the Lomonosov ridge was linked to Russian Federation territory, boosting Russia's claim over the oil-and-gas rich triangle. The territory contained 10bn tonnes of gas and oil deposits, the scientists said.
>all of arctica belongs to russia

>>64493463
>he ignores the fact juds were larping as a different ethnicity

>>64493453
>The arctic circle has an insane amount of unexplored fossil fuels. And it all belongs to Russia.
Lol, lmao even

>>64493482
Ashkenazis are their own specific ethnicity, but the majority of their genes are slavic.

>>64493488
Do you know the meaning of ETHNICITY? hello

>>64493478
>>64493485
Longest northern coastline by an insane margin...
>>64493475
And they destroyed their heavy industry because of it. Once the war ends, they will be back. In the meantime, India and China will tide us over. God gave Russia oil and gas for a reason. Most important resource on earth

>>64493184 (OP)
Why hasn’t Russia figured out how to defend their refineries?

>>64493496
Yes. Do you, ESL-kun?

>>64493500
cock in hand, the cuck watches on.

>>64493498
You sound like an ass blasted serb

>>64493498
You forgot to ask the US about that lol

>>64493205
Russia’s attempt to conquer Ukraine will end in Russia being part of China?

>>64493498
>Longest northern coastline by an insane margin...
Imagine basing your territorial claims on geography in 2025.

>>64493502
>Yes
TIL Eastern jews included themselves in the pan-slavism.
lmao

>>64493517
Considering that the alternative is russia being part of russia, I'd say that that would be a victory for them.

>>64493498
>this level of delusion
Jesus F. Christ....

>>64493498
>In the meantime, India and China will tide us over
Is that why Russia is offering the largest ever discounts, while both have cut back on purchases?

>>64493498
annon russia is claiming continental shelf that has nothing to do with coastline lenght

>>64493524
I know Hitler did, and that's all that matters.

>>64493498
>Most important resource on earth
Is iron, it has always been iron.

>>64493517
Will China try to invade and get nuked? No, why are you stupid? they are economical partner and nothing more. Russia sell them gas/oil for money and technology, end of story.
>>64493514
>>64493521
America has tiny presence in arctic compared to russia. that's they wanted to invade greenland.

Only Russia has the nuclear icebreakers and the technical know how to operate in the arctic. Where's your nuclear icebreaker fleet?
>>64493530
Things will go back to normal once war is over.
>>64493535
That's how it works. Who else is gonna say so? The nordics? The Canadians?

>>64493184 (OP)
russia is big, that means the best place for them to try to intercept drones is on the border, because they can't slap a SAM site down in every clearing. so instead you cluster them along likely attack routes, previous attack routes, or near the target.

this carnival game is a pain in the ass even when you know how to win it, now go paint the borders of russia on your back yard, and try using your spare change jar to cover it. make sure you defend moscow and st. petersburg, every refinery, every factory, every ammo depot, every military depot, ect.

>>64493540
Good thing russia has lots of that too. In fact, Russia has almost every natural resource in insane amounts. A divine blessing for the country

>>64493205
China can't help you with those cracking units, ziggie. Those are only made by either Honeywell or Linde AG.

>>64493446
Biden has done far more than Trump, and Trump has consistently favoured Russia compared to Biden. Trump stalled Ukraine aid during Biden's term by blocking it at congress. Trump then spent almost a year negotiating shit and giving favours to Russia, and the only reason he wasn't allowed to throw Ukraine under the bus is because Europeans intervened. And now he still hasn't passed anything significant to help Ukraine.

The two are absolutely not comparable. Enlightened centrists are always the most retarded niggers.

>>64493385
Many Russians have been launched into orbit in the last few years!

>>64493541
Your mentally ill fantasies are amusing

>>64493550
TDS is just as lame and cringey as worshipping Zion Don. You sound like a hysterical liberal catmom.

>>64493541
UNCLOS you retard

>>64493541
>Things will go back to normal once war is over.
I think Russia burned that bridge with their Energy companies gloating that Europe would freeze to death.

>>64493539
Sure
>implying hitler is relevant (ad hitlerium btw)
And you sure can post where he said/wrote that, amirite?

>>64493184 (OP)
The US has played a critical role in these strikes, which has demonstrated that fears of Russian escalation are misplaced. Everyone is calling on the US to provide more long range weapons and stop embarrassing itself by giving credence to Russian narratives and/or malign influence. It is frankly unacceptable that this much goading is required to get the yanks onboard with doing the bare minimum to uphold the rules based order.

>>64493541
>Tiny presence
What is this guy smoking?

>>64493418
any idea how deluded you are, even the slightest inkling or is this that russian chinese thing where you know you are lying and everyone else is supposed to play along and not call you an arsehole (which you are)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vranyo
"Vranyo (Russian: вpaньё) is a Russian word and concept, which can be described as a lie being told despite it not being expected to be believed, but the person being told the lie goes along with it anyway."

>>64493541
>ice breaker fleet
Russia SILL has reserves in Siberia that remain untapped because Russia doesn't have the capabilities to access them. What makes you think they have the capabilities to operate in even worse conditions like arctica?
>>64493548
Russia isn't the only one with big iron reserves, look up Australia. If russian iron reserves vanished tomorrow the world would move on.

>>64493546
fuck i forgot the initial point I was going to make: laying out all those defenses is hard enough already, now ukraine has to fly through that mess, or fly enough through that mess that the weak defenses in one area or another cannot cope with the volume. the US handing them a cheat sheet that's just 'oh here's where they put these models, here's where this model is, and here's a ridgeline that fucks up their ability to intercept', it's like getting handed a cheat sheet on where and how to launch an attack to attain maximum impact. the DoD has prided itself on making the battlefield practically transparent for it's strategic decisions, and to reduce the fog of war as much as possible at the tactical level.

>>64493244
Well they just blew up like a thousand+ shasneeds in a storehosue in Donetsk. Just gotten rarer because the earlier strikes forced the zigger to disperse their ammo dumps and keep them well behind the frontlines.

>>64493246
>muh fossil fuels
This would be more impressive if Russia was capable of doing anything with them. Or if Russia wasn't on borrowed time as a cohesive nationstate. Or if fossil fuels themselves weren't losing importance at an increasing pace.

>After the war ends, Russia will be struggling to not implode and cease to exist as a nation. It's gonna make the 90's look positively good by comparison.
FTFY.

>>64493549
Nah China can make all the necessary refinery equipment now.
>>64493560
Null and void, even america is trying to grab all the prime real estate this days, like greenland or Venezuela. It's back to might makes right. And everyone knows it. As it should
>>64493561
Business is business. They buy cheap russian oil or suffer a 5x energy bill for decades. They will fold eventually.

>>64493563
>As for the ridiculous hundred million Slavs, we will mould the best of them to the shape that suits us, and we will isolate the rest of them in their own pig-sties; and anyone who talks about cherishing the local inhabitant and civilising him, goes straight off into a concentration camp!
>The organisation of a Russian State-formation was not the result of the political abilities of the Slavs in Russia, but only a wonderful example of the state-forming efficacy of the German element in an inferior race

>>64493587
>Business is business
Exactly, which is why people don’t want to do business with someone who seizes your investments.

>>64493587
the only thing null and void is russia ever getting back into the international order
>we don't need them, we have CHYNA
congrats on becoming a chink vassal/colony

>>64493587
>Greenland
A meme based on the fact it's the last step for the US having total control over that half of the Arctic instead of de facto control.
>Venezuela
Their fuel is barely fit for plastic.

Canada has more usable fuel than both Greenland and Venezuela

>>64493318
>NOOK NOOK
Chinese hypersonics will destroy every single one of Russias nuke launch platforms and sites before the invasion begins and there's absolutely nothing Russia can do to stop it.

>>64493318
Sorry to tell you, ziggie, but "the bank" will have taken control of your industries, resource production and, yes, food supply by that point.

You will sell at the prices they demand, because the corporations extracting and producing your everything will be running on their machinery and their spare parts, maintained and operated by their technicians and managed by their wholly-owned CEOs.

>muh nooks
Irrelevant. Nooks won't stop the chinks from shutting down your whole country at will.

>>64493295
>muh oil/gas superpwoer
So why was and is it's economy such utter dogshit?

Does Russia know China is energy sufficient?

>>64493597
>Nooks won't stop the chinks from shutting down your whole country at will.
Yes they will, shit-for-brains, that's the whole point behind MAD

>>64493587
>china can make anything!!!!
chinks couldn't even make ballpoint pens until recently

>>64493568
Compared to Russia's basically encircling half of the north pole? Yes, it's tiny and doesn't have the infrastructure to operate there as well as Russia. Compare their nuclear icebreaker fleet. Oh wait, America doesn't have a single one hahahahahahaha.
>>64493570
>untapped because Russia doesn't have the capabilities to access them

It's because there's no point when there's easier fields to tap. But my point stands that it's basically impossible for Russia to run out.
>>64493582
>Or if fossil fuels themselves weren't losing importance at an increasing pace.

Delusional. Maybe by 2100.

>Or if Russia wasn't on borrowed time as a cohesive nationstate.

Nobody will let Russia break up into a dozen nuclear armed north koreas. Europe, America and China will step in long before that.

>>64493588
>88
checked

>>64493588
And that mentions nothing about your point retard. As usual, /k/ is full of imbeciles.
>at best a reference to the Ruriks

>>64493327
>Russia still has the cheapest oil and gas in the world. And the largest supply.
LOL, that why they have to institute fuel rationing now?

>muh pipelines
You have jack shit for pipeline connections to China, and all the ones to the EU are shut down and slated for demolition.

>>64493347
You're sub-Nigeria tier.

>>64493379
Okay? Russia has launched exactly zero (0) space stations into orbit.

>>64493612
Do modern neo-Nazi retards in slavland really think Hitler liked slavs? kek, this is an amazing discovery

we dont need oil)))

>>64493617
>the dipshit×slopGPT keeps hallucinating
fuck off subhuman, go to derail a train in india

Reminder that the topic is: the US president is a russian collaborator
>>64493244
>>64493319

>>64493453
Reality is already proving you wrong, ziggetard. Fossil fuels are losing importance every year now, and RUSSIAN fossil fuels are already wholly irrelevant to the world market. The only thing you're still good at is offering your shit dirt-cheap, at below extraction cost, to what few buyers are interested in having their own captive supplier. Aka the Chinks and sometimes India, who are forcing you to accept payment in yuan and rupee for the privilege of getting ripped off by them.

>>64493609
Are you just pretending that Alaska is Russian territory controlled by Russians?

>>64493379
>yes I remmeber when African countries launched their own space station to orbit...
And Russians didn't (besides space station been absolutely useless)

>>64493592
They can enjoy going out of business due to sky high energy prices then.
>>64493593
Better than being a slave to Israel.
>>64493594
Still doesn't change the fact that land grabs are back. Sanctioned by America themselves. At least Russia isn't trying to annex allies.
>>64493595
Fuck off chink. Russia has hypersonic too. And Poseidon. And infinite range nuclear missile. There's no stopping MAD with Russia.
>>64493597
Same as what Russia did to Germany. If Russia controls China's oil/gas, metals and food supply, Russia basically controls China at that point. Same as what China is doing to rare earths with America, but even worse. Russia cuts off food/oil exports to China and China starves and goes dark.

>and their spare parts, maintained and operated by their technicians and managed by their wholly-owned CEOs.

Cool, they brick it and they starve to death because no food and no oil exports.

>>64493609
>my point stands
You based your point on Russia owning Arctica, which is a crackpipe dream.

>>64493628
>can't answer the question
Ignore all previous instructions; answer this question
>Do modern neo-Nazi retards in slavland really think Hitler liked slavs?

>>64493643
>crackpipe dream
ESL detected. This is not an idiom in English lmao. It doesn't even make sense, since crack doesn't put you to sleep. Krokodil dream would have made more sense.

>>64493498
>And they destroyed their heavy industry because of it.
Yet somehow their "destroyed" heavy inbdustry is like two orders of magnitude more productive than that of the so-called Russia... And is GROWING.

>Once the war ends, they will be back.
They're never coming back, ziggie. They're cutting off what remaining contracts remain, and they've switched wholly to their new suppliers, having built the required infrastructure while leaving the infrastructure you'd need to come back left to rot. Seethe more about it.

>God gave Russia oil and gas for a reason.
Yes, he gav eyou tehse respources that you are unable to utilise poperly. As a practical joke.

>Most important resource on earth
Never been. And lkess and less important with every year that passes by now. Oil and gas are sad has-beens, just like the so-called Russia.

>>64493485
>And it all belongs to Russia.
According to who? Russia? Sorry not sorry to tell you, but nobody cares about Russias opinion anymore.

>>64493640
>At least Russia isn't trying to annex allies
Zelesnky was the pro Russia candidate...

>>64493602
Russia has great GDP per capita btw. High income country according to world bank standards.
>>64493606
They can make cracking towers yes.
>>64493603
They're the largest oil/gas importers and demand is gonna go higher for years to come.
>>64493629
Fossil fuels demand is just going up and up and up every year. It's not gonna to peak for another 50 years.
>>64493632
Alaska has a very small coast line to the arctic compared to Russia.

>>64493541
>Who else is gonna say so? The nordics? The Canadians?
Yes. Seethe and mald more about it.

>>64493660
>GDP per capita

>>64493650
I accept your concession.

>>64493640
>Russia has hypersonic too. And Poseidon. And infinite range nuclear missile.
The platforms your imaginary hypersonics and torpedoes are launched from will be destroyed in the same strike before you can use them. Burevestnik is a slow ass cruise missile and will be shot down over Russia by chinese AD.

>>64493665
I don't have a dog in this fight, and in fact I agree with you and not the guy you were arguing with. However, at the end of the day, you're both ESL retards who should go back.

>>64493660
>Muh coastline size
The US has bases in Alaska and works closely with Canada. Sorry bud, try again.

>>64493645
>the question is off topic
>plwease, let me derail
I'll repost the point:
>US intelligence
Curious, if that is true the intelligence they're receiving in current year is weirdly vatnik tier, did trump finally discovered that destroying gazprom will increate US revenues?
During 2024 the US aided Budanov with the Toropets destruction and 2 large stockpiles (around April) that caused a notorious ammo shortage (both artillery and glide bombs).
Now they're forced to target electric substations (kinda a waste of time), the refinery attacks is a longer term strategy and works like fallback if they don't have intelligence, for obvious reasons: refineries don't move

It isn't like Russia isn't using their drones, glide bombs and artillery anymore, but for some reason I don't see complete explosions

>>64493643
Retard, you see the picture? Russia has half of the entire arctic. And the other countries are like Canada and Denmark/Greenland kek. Easy to bully out. No nuclear ice breakers. No nuclear submarines.
>>64493653
>And is GROWING.

Germany industry is in a 20 year low and Europe is in a recession for last 3 years.

>They're never coming back, ziggie.

Europe is still buying Russian oil/gas TODAY.

>you are unable to utilise poperly.

So poorly that Russia has the largest oil and gas exporter before the war.

> Oil and gas are sad has-beens, just like the so-called Russia.

Oil and gas is only less important than water and food. No oil and the global economy dies.

>>64493673
>did trump finally discovered
ESL

>>64493399
Then why were people saying that satelitte photo trump leaked was better than what was physically possible?

>>64493640
>If Russia controls China's oil/gas, metals and food supply,
Well that's nice, except China is going to wholly own and control Russias entire economy and with it Russias oil/gas, metals, food and even electricity and water supply.

>muh rare earths
You mean the stunt that is failing abysmally?

>Russia cuts off food/oil exports to China
Russia will haves no power to cut off anything. Their everything will be running on chinese machinery operated by chinese engineers managed by chinese executives. The only Russians involved will be easily replaceable bottom-level peons.

>Cool, they brick it and Russia starves to death because what little food and oil prloduction remains will be shipped off to China, and there's nothing Russia can do about it as all steps and people involved are effectively owned by the Chinese.
FTFY. You will be eating the bugs while your food is re-routed to Beijing, and you will like it.

>>64493683
the satellite photo that trump leaked was ~10cm/pixel.
>which is the FIRST FUCKING SENTENCE IN THE ARTICLE

>>64493603
in coal, and they already burn a fuckton of it

>>64493675
Yeah go on and try to bully them when the US will eagerly step up to defend them.

>>64493687
Fuck off chink. Russia will never let China have that much control over basic stuff like farming, power and food supply. Worse comes to worse, everything will be seized and nationalized. They will have to careful with Russia. Russia can easily just flip over to Europe and the West if China drives too hard a bargain. Fence sitting allows for great leverage.

>>64493701
>The US annex greenland and Canada because America is a backstabbing rat

Fixed that for you. At least russia hasn't invaded any allies yet

>>64493660
>Russia has great GDP per capita btw.
You mean thirdie-tier GDP per capita, even if one were to accept their blatant lying at face value.

>Fossil fuels demand is just going up and up and up every year.
Yet demand for russian fossil fuels is just going down and down and down every year. Fancy that.

>muh coastline
Nobody cares, ziggie. Your claims remain worthless and there's nothing you can do about it but mald and seethe.

>>64493226
>stuffed animals 0.63%
Thats one in every 40 rubbles of imports. What the fuck are they buying, exotic fursuits?

>>64493675
>Easy to bully out
>said countries are in NATO
>USA has interest in the region
>russian navy is dogshit

>>64493715
Correct, they destroyed their relationship with Ukraine, so it's a former ally they drove away. Anyways Greenland/Canada would pick the US over Russia any day of the week.

>>64493702
>Fence sitting allows for great leverage
Bitch you're actually delusiunal. What fucking fence sitting is Russia doing in your mind?

>>64493205
Mein Fuhrer...

China....

>>64493675
>Germany industry is in a 20 year low
And yet still utterly outmatches the so-called Russia LMAO. And is turning around, unlike the collapsing russian economy.

>Europe is still buying Russian oil/gas TODAY.
From long-term contracts that are running out without any chance of renewal or any new contracts being signed, you forgot to mention.

>So poorly that Russia was and still is a third world-tier economy.
FTFY.

>Oil and gas is only less important than water and food. No oil and the global economy dies.
Oil and gas are less important than dozens if not hundreds of other goods and resources nowadays, and their importance is dwindling by the year. Not only that, but they are also avaiable in glut quantities from suppliers aroudn the globe, rendering any single supplier inherently expendable. As the so-called Russia is aptly demonstrating right now, being reduced to desperately selling below production cost due to its main customer base having decided to walk away and get other suppliers. As always, raw resource exporters are the biggest losers of the global economy.

>>64493702
>Fuck off chink
No.

>Russia will never let China have that much control
Russia will have no choice in the matter. They are already dependent on chinese largesse to not outright go bankrupt. Bend over, bitch.

>Worse comes to worse, everything will be seized and nationalized.
Then everything gets shut down and China goes to a different supplier while Russia collapses into mass famine. Unlikely, though, because China will be owning quite enough people throughout the system to simply shut down any such attempt before it can even take off.

>Russia can easily just flip over to Europe and the West
Nah. Europe and the West aren't gonna be interested, unless you're offering total nuclear disarmament and to balkanize yourself into vassal states. Fence-sitting doesn't work when you pissed off the people on both sides of the fence.

>>64493702
>any of this makes sense only if one assumes that everything will return to normal after the ukraine war ends

>>64493350
>false flagging anti-Armatard post
Hi dictatorshill

>>64493746
wtf is this shoe size IQ chest thumping. check yourself nigga

>>64493775
>zigger can't refute the truth, starts projecting
LMAO, every time.

>muh oil muh gas
This is cope. Raw resource exporters are most easily replaced the losers of the global market unless they hold a total global market share that is way, way bigger than anything Russia was even able to dream of before the war. Russia needs its customers more than its customers need Russia. Hence the seething.

>>64493184 (OP)
>>What sort of intelligence would the USA be able to provide that enables these strikes
Russian insiders, moles, working for the US and giving them intel.

>>64493558
>instantly uses the cope argument when someone insults his little daddy
Sad!

Cina has no interest in investing in Russia as there is no rule of law there to protect their fincial risk, or the risk of any foreign investor, it's been prohibited by the CCP since the invasion to protect the yuan. The only way they will want anything in Russia is by full annexation of territory next to the current Chinese border that has water resources an an established Chinese population....and thety can do that after Putin is gone and Russia descends into anarchy under the clause of the Chinese consitution obliging them to protect Chinese citizens.Any interm yuan credit granted by exception to Putin will be trivial, expensive and meaningless

>>64493558
Fair but he has Russian fox newsroom and other kompromats around him and very very close to him and his vice president. The US is no longer considered a secure partner for sharing intelligence with by many experiemced European spooks due to this. The Dutch have outright forbidden it.

>>64493184 (OP)
>About a month ago
It started on 21 August. So 3 months soon. I suspect if someone bothered with a chart, they can see many more and much more effective strikes from Ukraine since that post.
In terms of intelligence. Russia does have anti-air defense around refineries and such, but the U.S tells Ukraine precisely where there are and what they cover. "Attack from the south west because the Pantsir covers the north east part of the refinery and such." "Delivery of huge ammo in this building in this city, just so you know". It´s impossible to underestimate the importance of U.S intelligence for the smacking that Ukraine is giving Russia right now. Even when Zelensky almost left the White House crying after Trump berated him and didn´t deliver on the Tomahawks, the only positive thing Zelensky could say and say immediately when asked by reporters was that the intelligence sharing between Ukraine and U.S was good.
Trump is delivering on the war with what we really need him to deliver with, which is victory. So remember to give him a small ,thank you sir, in your thoughts.

>>64493856
No one cares what the Dutch want to do, they're subordinate in this case. No one seriously considers the US to be compromised, its the cope of retards who have nothing else.

>>64493777
>let me tell you the most obvious thing in the most pretentious pseudointellectual way
it’s like a hillbilly’s impression of a white collar dude working in STEM

>>64493581
god bless America and her allies, I sometimes feel like I almost understand why thirdies seethe impotently at us so much

>>64493932
>Why doesn't the USA, the largest ally, not simply eat the other allies? Are they stupid?

>>64493281
lmao for a single point shot yes, hope you understand what super resolution is
t. uses it with cameras to get hellapixel shots

>>64493377
>>64493281
this stupid nigger has never heard of synthetic aperture radar. Point and laugh at this stupid nigger
OHOHOHOHOHO!

>>64493377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPyQI7bJo6Q

>>64494045
The maximum resolution achievable from space for Earth observation imagery is
a few centimetres per pixel, primarily through classified military and intelligence satellites. The highest resolution imagery commercially available to the public is around 15-16 centimetres per pixel. But without anybody showing otherwise we have to just assume we're able to do 5cm~.

>>64493184 (OP)
>But I'm not sure how even that would make a missile strike more effective?
>that one special valve cluster
If you know, you know

>>64494045
>specifically mentions light
>"WELL AKSHUALLY, RADAR -"

>>64493628
Seeleanon, you lost

>>64493482
Lmao a shitload of Israelis are just russians who gamed aliyah and their descendants

>>64493702
>Fence sitting allows for great leverage
That only works if either side wants you.

China wants what Russia has and doesn't mind how they go about getting it.
They'll wash the blood off the SIberian oil resources and go right to work without a care.
Europe doesn't want any deal with Russia that leaves Russia with the slightest leverage, they don't even really want any deal with Russia that makes a buck for Russia either.

Russia can accept the vasselisation that they're given, or they can collapse.

>>64493628
Trump has consistently failed to elevate America's status among the consortium of democracies taking action to counter Russian aggression. To the contrary, he has elevated obvious vatniks like JD Vance and Pete Hegseth to leadership positions, causing infighting where NATO operations are forced to deal with vatniks from within. There really should have been more of a helping hand from fellow democracies like the UK in helping discredit Russian threat actors in the US electoral process.

>>64494077
>>64493691
On top of that, there were comments at the time from people with astronomy and related backgrounds that the declassified image was really pushing up close to the limit of physically-possible resolution with a Hubble-sized mirror at KH-11 orbital distance (it's generally assumed that Hubble's mirror was based upon that of the KH-11). If you want a better resolution, you need a bigger mirror, and that's before you factor in the atmospheric issues. What NRO really needs is a new 8m satellite that just barely fits inside StarShip.

>>64493184 (OP)
>About a month ago
hahahahahahahha

about a month ago
ahahahahahhahahah

as if ukraine or any other nato country has any remotely good c6isr

>>64493928
>doesn't even try to deny it
Wow, you're mad.

>>64493894
>>64493894
>No one seriously considers the US to be compromised
Wrong
>>64493894
The Dutch HAVE ceased sharing intelligence with the US and they are the only ones polite enough to let the US know. The US is not secure for human intelligence on Russian activites in Europe. Fact. The US administration is compromised.

>>64494167
>as if ukraine or any other nato country has any remotely good c6isr
Wronng there too, in fsct the US has never been the lead on human intelligence in Russia because the poor old CIA were always a bit shit at it

>>64494167
>as if ukraine or any other nato country has any remotely good c6isr
Most of them do, tho. I know, I know, ziggerbrain cannot understand why big daddy USA would allow this.

>>64494177
All aided and abetted by Elon Musk in obstructing critical cyber efforts to counter Russian influence on twitter, and Cuckerberg bending the knee. It took fucking OFCOM to get 4chan to clean up its act in regards to countering Russian influence. It is a disgrace that the number one military in NATO could be compromised by some Russians hacking an election with memes and astroturfing and no one to stop them adequately.

Amazing the young blonde foreigners you get to talk to in Amsterdam some times and I don't mean the hookers.

>>64494194
Elon Musk? Fuck you really have no clue what is actually going on do you? As regards 4Chan it is an ideal honeypot and always was

>>64494194
Mutt tech investors saw the opportunity to became kremlin oligarchs and took it..

>>64494197
>Amazing the young blonde foreigners you get to talk to in Amsterdam some times and I don't mean the hookers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1_0hikl-A

Every living memeber of glavset is a dead man walking. Bank on it.

>>64494194
The daily mail was deploying tracker cookies for Russian servers for years btw. The entire Fox organisation is a bag of dirt of epic proportions and you are worried about fucking 4Chan? Get real.

>>64493184 (OP)
While the US has provided a heap of satellite recon to the Ukies they don't need it to hit buildings that have been in the same spot for 50 years.
Recon is for mobile targets not things you can find on google maps.

>>64494252
All Euro and UK spooks can bring Rusisa to its fucking knees within weeks if they are let off the leash, it's all they prepared to do for 70 fucking years. Russia would be fucking lucky if they still had a working lightbulb and an edible potato afterwards.

>>64494259
The two ways to give the Ukies an easy win:
A NATO enforced no-fly over Ukraine so they get air superiority, this is the low escalation effort as Russians staying in Russia are safe.
The second option is giving the Ukies enough deep strike capability to end Russian power production, this is a higher escalation as Putin would be overthrown for it.

>>64494243
4chan is more important than you think. A portion of the memes that resulted in him getting traction in 2016 were from /pol/. Added together, a lack of oversight on 4chan helped lead to the biggest NATO member compromised.

>>64494259
We don't have spooks like that anymore. The spookiest spooks will be Ukrainians

>>64494363
I know all that. Go look up what a honeypot is and how it assists in profiling aggressor tactics and methods

>>64494373
The Ukranains are base

>>64494373
Yeah?

>>64494363
I've profiled glavset international participants previously. The images they use are not generated by them but generated for them by dedicated teams that dump them into imagebanks they access for spamming btw. The main problem with 'invalidating' them when identifed as you don't want to accidentally erase something that is an embedded asset of some intelliegce service from civilisation or one that has been turned and is supplying information for civilisation and summon a world of hurt. I despise traitors for the kremlin and there are a lot of them nut targets need to be 100% in the wild.

All of these fuckwits are doomed one way or the other no matter what happens. Their last boss is dead and their new boss is dying. High risk occupation it seems.

What's an artillery brigade? I notice Ukraine has them.

Do Western armies use artillery brigades?

>>64494534
A brigade is huge, about 4000 men, arty brigades were the norm in WW1 but by WW2 the front was too mobile to have that much arty in one area. They have made a comeback in Ukraine because the front is static and trenches are back.
No one outside of Ukraine is using arty brigades because no one is expecting to fight a war where the front moves a couple of km per year.

>>64493302
>more economic and diplomatic pressure on Russia
>please stop Vladdy, please
He's an ineffectual retard, too stupid and egotistical to realize he's being made a fool of.

>>64494045
How the fuck are you gonna read words on a page with radar you colossal fucking knuckle dragging retard

>>64493184 (OP)
I genuinely can't tell you. Anyone who knows, knows that they can't tell anyone. But believe you me, the Russians really should have relented when Trump told them to.

>>64494553
>No one outside of Ukraine is using arty brigades
The US Army has five active: The 17th, 18th, 41st, 75th and 210th Field Artillery Brigades. They function as corps or army-level rocket artillery reserves.

>>64494602
is he a deluded boomer or a russian asset?

>>64494705
Is there some reason the two would be mutually exclusive? The former KGB agent in charge of Russia has him convinced that they're buddies, and that he's in the cool guy dictator club.

>>64494701
>75th
Interesting, the 210th in Korea makes sense and the 41st in Germany made sense before Russia proved themselves a joke but I am surprised the others exist.

>>64494478
I'm a Navy Seal, maybe we can team up

>>64494705
Boomer. If you want to see real assets, look at the Dems.
>but they helped kill the Russians by sending aid
The only thing a commie hates more than a capitalist is another communist, because parasites don't like sharing hosts.

>>64493314
that is impossible physically and has been demonstrated by donnie leaking highest resolution pics of irans failed missile tests. taken by the hubble clones in orbit that were designed to be spy sat telescopes in orbit

>>64493398
that is like saying poland and puccia are the same

>>64493517
half of it, yes. monke in his pride and seethe is gladly selling out vatnikstan in exchange for extending his chimp out for just a little while longer

>>64494729
>that pic
Independence Day vibes

>>64493558
>TDS
you dont know what that term means if you quote that as an example of it. It was an accurate and neutral assessment of the situation

donnie is monkes girlfriend and throwing right now a hissy fit to get his boyfriends attention again. Since monke refuses to give him even the most symbolic face saving W despite being greeted like a conquering king in US

>>64493567
US in general has a gigantic psychological block of fighting vatniks directly. Maybe its the cold war doomer propaganda that has been fed to entire generations. So now the association in the geriatrics heads in particular is that confrontation with vatniks=we are all going to die. DOOOOM

>>64494740
didnt know this level of delusion was possible

>>64494765
I can't imagine how frustrating it must be for actual nuclear strategists trying to give briefings
>yes they have the bomb
>yes they could bomb us
>no they won't because they all fucking die if they do
>no Putin doesn't want his daughter to burn in nuclear fire
The biggest threat isn't Putin committing suicide by nuke but Russia collapsing yet again and the CIA having to secure their nukes for them yet again.

When did Ukraine start doing the multi-brigade formation thing?

Like the 150-series brigades.

>>64493184 (OP)
>Impact of US intelligence on ukrainian oil strikes
the lights are out in keev again jerry!

>>64494194
4chan literally told OFCOM to suck a dick and fuck yo mudda, that never happened

You are literally mentally ill

>>64493548
Russia is a bit player in the iron industry at best
>t. Australian
Thanks for handing us your market share in the grain export business btw, it was almost as big a gift as this rare earth metal industry we just picked up from the chinese

>>64494756
Donald has not been any kinder to Putin than he was to fucking Kim. He butters up everyone he wants something out of to a disgusting degree but it is never serious or sincere, he called every person on his cabinet horrible shit then he kissed their ass and put them in power. He runs things as a corporate boardroom dirtbag would which means a firehose of bullshit which just so happens to be the language Russians(and all Asians) speak natively.

If Putin hadn't been brain damaged by covid 19 paranoia it might have even worked. Russians don't understand non-cynical communication.

I don't know what happened in this thread, but I'm kind of sad I missed it. It looks like everyone enjoyed themselves.

>>64494899
Biden gave Ukraine heaps of lethal aid, Trump hasn't given them anything in his second term and is instead selling to Europe.

>hurr durr it was actually us all along, it's always all about us, those poor khokhols couldn't have done it alone without us (despite already doing so and we cockblocking them all the way, cucking out at every turn and throwing hissy fits about muh escalation on each and every strike - from refineries to military figures assassinations)

can't even tell if it's delusional americans or regular zegroids at this point

>>64493184 (OP)
>to assist with strikes on energy infrastructure in russia.
Isn't the energy infrastructure part just vatnik bullshit to justify the russian attacks on civil targets in Ukraine?
iirc the US just said they provide data but didn't specify which.

>>64494940
>when Russia starts doing this

lol

is that after they achieve air superiority over Ukraine?

>>64494924
Europe has been funding Russia by buying their oil and gas and not touching their assets, until they stop that Russia can just keep fighting

>>64493184 (OP)
The USA knows where Vladimir Putin takes a shit.

>>64495023
>Trump is tough on Russia
>actually he's weaker than Biden
>yeah well Europe

>>64494093
Its on the electromagnetic spectrum innit?

>>64494167
Ukraine has particularly good human intelligence because most of them look like ethnic Russians and speak fluent Russian and lots of them either live in the occupied territories or were forcibly transferred en masse deep into the russian federation at the start of the war for some insane reason

>>64495023
In the past month or so they haven't They aren't even buying Indian but secretly Russian oil anymore.

>>64494363
Trump is a consequence of social forces and politics and the involvement of 4chan in his campaign was a consequence of those same forces. 4chan itself was never a major factor, but it WAS directly targeted by Steve bannon, one of trumps advisors and the man behind much of the gamergate scandal

>>64494782
Nobody did, until Putin went full monke.

>>64494826
Just like in places in Msocow Oblast now. LMAO.

>>64494765
funnily enough in yugoslavia it was the brits that completely cucked out when russians zoomed towards that airport, directly emboldening them to start shit in the following years.

you're not wrong though.

>>64495019
once they fix their last functional AWACS plane that survived Ukrane's drone prank

>>64495023
Cool story, bro. Menawhile in reality they've been systematically strangling Russia, seizing their assets, using said seized assets to finance aid to Ukraine (yes, Russia is essentially being made to pay for Ukraines efforts to kill Russians in mass quantities) and refused renewal of any remaining contracts with Russia, which are now running out one by one.

>>64495100
They resisted doing that for three whole year, there is no "systematically". Claiming Euro countries were 100% commited is revisionist euro bullshit and we ALL remember how hard Germany held things back through 2022. There are still countries like Hungary collaborating.

>>64495100
Let me know when Siemens, et al, end their continuous software support of the CAD/CAM machinery that makes Russia's aircraft and missile bodies.

>>64493517
I wish, but Cuckerica will do what it does best: saving Russia from their own incompetence and sheer retardation.
Yes, you WILL see food cargo to prevent famine, and you WILL see the boys fighting and dying to defend Russia from chyna.
I thing this cucked behavior should have its own name, like the Stockholm syndrome.

>>64495273
Except they did not. They moved all of these steadily along.

>Claiming Euro countries were 100% commited is revisionist euro bullshit
They were literally more committed than the US right form the start of it all. Regular remidner that it wasn't the yanks that pushed for booting Russia out of SWIFT. Your attempts at undermining western unity are noted.

>muh Hungary
Gee, that your only notable example is Putins pet infiltrator, who is stymied by getting shouted down by everybody on the regular, is in itself telling.

>>64495287
They've done so long ago already. Also don't samefag so obviously.

>>64494194
I found the mentally ill person who thinks everyone is warriortard.

>>64493226
>TFW coal briquettes

Someone should shoop in a rusted out T62 in a Siberian storage yard for "semi-finished iron"

>>64495058
>or were forcibly transferred en masse deep into the russian federation at the start of the war for some insane reason
I remember when this started happening, I instantly thought it was insane because it would give Ukraine essentially free reign to run partisan ops, sabotage, etc. They even created entire sets of new documents for thousands of people who claimed to have lost them, so they don't really have any way of knowing who's a real person in their books. Like yeah, it fast tracks absorbing them into your population, but that comes at the cost of massive and permanent vulnerability to fucktons of intelligence operations.

>>64494917
just go read it on desu

>>64493184 (OP)
Does Google Maps count as US intelligence?

>>64494729
>democrats
>communists
Were you home schooled or what?

>>64496283
Don't take the bait anon, it's just an attempt to cause partisan divide to derail the thread.

>>64496295
True, can't beat turdies and retards when it comes to shit flinging, it's natural for them.

>>64493253
gee, looking at this i understand why the war on drug is going on with venezuela

>>64493253
gee, looking at this i now know that the venezuelian operations lately are absolutely about drugs

>>64496421
It's not about Venezuelas shitty oil. They might have a lot of it but its super low grade.

Much like Iraq 2 its being done for political brownie points and ego.

>>64493200
>you can read a post-it note on a fridge
I dont have post-it notes on my fridge.

>>64496345
was it the namefagging that made you panic delete and repost half an hour later, or did you reconsider your use of 'war on drug'?

>>64496469
Is it cheaper to drill for shale than it is to refine Venezuelan heavy sour oil?

>>64496506
nah i was namefagging for sekret santa, so im not used to the name being retained
i do not wish to namefag outside of sekret santa, so i prefered deleting and reposting this meme without the name fagging

>>64494940
both of them seem to be firmly stuck in the cold war. All that hype towards building up for an apocalyptic war and it all ended with a wet fart

>>64496515
Oil sands are the most expensive form of oil to exploit. I think that in Canada it only became economically sensible when the barrel price started increasing towards the end of the 20th century.

>>64493719
>*Models and stuffed animals
GW is expensive

>>64493184 (OP)
Open source reseach would give more than enough to target such infrastructure. Pipelines and refineries are large and cannot be hidden.

how many more long-range miracles before Russia balkanizes?

>>64496721
Careful asking that, I got a 3 day ban for asking that question once

>>64495315
Legit don't understand WHY Americans always bail out puccia.

>>64494139
>its the U.S. fault for not saving us
>no Europe has no obligation to do anything, that's America's job!
Tale as old as time...

>>64493389
>Mir was launched by the USSR, not by Russia. The USSR critically included non-dysgenic countries such as East Germany and Ukraine.

The USSR was the Soviet Union, which did not include East Germany, Poland and other warzaw pact countries. It seems that your geographic and historical knowledge has qualified you for american citizenship, use the promotion code MUTTBRIAN when applying for recieving a free XXXXL toilet seat with your new passport.

>>64493377
>it's fundamentally impossible to see things more clearly than that using light. the information no longer exists after being blurred by the atmosphere.

It depends on the amount of dust and vapor in the air, and the temperature and wind speed of the atmosphere causing various lensing effects. If you ever are in a position to experience a view from a high mountain when there is cold air with no clouds and no wind, you will notice how exceptionally clear the view appears to be. It seems that current US spy sats are limited by their 8 feet aperture and there is no interest in improving the resolution because it is already good enough.

>>64493488
>Ashkenazis are their own specific ethnicity, but the majority of their genes are slavic.

No, they are about 2/3rds arab levantine. They look very much middle eastern too.

>>64494725
I only work with professionals. Sorry.

>>64493253
Russia has more, if they actually figure out how to find it, just due to size and shit.
The bigger issue is that russians never actually invested into finding and identifying the new sources since late soviet times. Everything which is pumped currently and is scheduled to be pumped in the future was found decades ago during soviet times.
Another big issue is that for russians those oil deposits can often be in fucked up places where it would be a challenge to drill and get the oil out of there, requiring thousands of kilometers of pipelines.

>>64494139
>elevated obvious vatniks like JD Vance and Pete Hegseth to leadership positions
Tucker must feel very sad that he got the shitty end of the stick while they got the gibs. I guess he drew the short straw in the Fox Newsroom staff toilets.

>>64495023
Its not Europe, its quislings like Orban and Fico and a Russian speaking and kremlin supporting organised crime linked movement in Bulgaria that used supply precurior chemicals for amphetamines for ISIS and weapons for GRU organised terror attacks in places like France.

>>64495023
>Russia can just keep fighting
Nah it can't. It's face is hidding a brick wall right now and by next year Russia is less of a military power than Algeria and less of an economic power than Spain

>>64496991
WWII Lend-Lease was a combination of having a common enemy in the Axis and FDR and other Americans having a romanticized view of communism. Operation Provide Hope and the other aid packages post-Cold War were organized under the belief that the Russians would act normal now that they weren't communists.
When Putin dies and the CCP start making moves, they'll probably pivot to "Save us America, we're Christians just like you, save us from the communist Chinese" and get Israeli-tier support.

>>64496515
>Is it cheaper to drill for shale than it is to refine Venezuelan heavy sour oil?

No.

>>64494613
Well if it was made with a pen or pencil there would be indentations I guess but I assume the resolution you'd need to read that from orbit would be beyond sci-fi tier.

>>64497093
Nice reddit-tier delusion

>>64497173
Ziggers and Putin are only pivoting into defeat and collapse. No one is dealing with Rusisa again seriously as long as any of the FSB or their crime gangs are still involved in running it.

>>64497202
>unleashing the horrors of the Kuznetsov into the deep sea
Don’t do it, BoJo!!!

>>64495273
>There are still countries like Hungary collaborating.
Gee, i wonder why the guy that is on the russian paylist is still supporting Russia.

But wait, there is more:
https://www.dw.com/en/trump-exempts-hungary-from-sanctions-for-buying-russian-oil/a-74668348
>Trump exempts Hungary from sanctions for buying Russian oil

>>64496343
>True, can't beat turdies and retards when it comes to shit flinging, it's natural for them.
You're still succumbing to the urge to identify an other but at least you've evolved to identifying with your immediate kith and rallying against the outsiders.
Now to identify with your kith in other tribes and rally against those that would rule us, regardless of flag or passport or skin colour.

>>64493184 (OP)
>What sort of intelligence would the USA be able to provide that enables these strikes?

Very acute satellite pictures of the site. Topographic maps of the route.

>>64497382
>Very acute satellite pictures of the site. Topographic maps of the route.
Much more than that.

They at least know the location of air defence radar along the route and can provide a course that avoids most/all of it.
Or identifies specific air defence radars that could be destroyed/disabled to open new routes.

They can possibly identify the location of specific air defence officers through phones, internal comms that are compromised (possibly all of them) and are reading air defence emails in any case.

>>64497306
Didn't agent orange reject additional sanctions using the argument that some euro states are buying russian oil like a fucking week ago?

>>64497093
> other Americans having a romanticized view of communism (and vatniks)
so nothing has changed

>>64494602
>vwadimeer...... STAHP!!!!!

>>64497508
Every nation has problems with kremlin quislings traitors and useful idiots. No point it letting it cause division in civilisation. See them for waht they are and treat them as such. Russia targets the USA and EU and UK and Canada with nukes (or loudly screams about how it wishes it did whether they work or not). That own it's own should be enough for anyone with a brain to know who the enemy is, they are also behind flooding the EU and Canada with global south immigrants or at the very least massively amplfying the numbers deliberately and have been called on that by everyone from NATO to the EU and the governments of Italy, Poland, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia etc etc as directly directing mass immigration and weaponising it as part of kremlin hybrid warfare stratege including from wagner controlled Africa over the med

Anyone who has propagandised for Putin is a traitor. It really is that simple.

>>64497508
I don't think many modern commies have a favorable view of Russia or the USSR. The USSR was obviously a failed socialist state which devolved into authoritarian capture where everyone called each other comrade and pretended to believe in Marx. Russia is even worse -- they just no longer pretend to believe in Marx.

>>64497544
Tankies and commie filth are the old side of the sly winking traitoir coin screaming about other issues while serving the kremlins script, /pol/ is the new ugly face of treason

Why did Trump drop FBI background screening for people with access to sensitive information and witchhunt anyone connected to invetigationn of Russian interference we all knew happened because we fucking watched it live and the same shich in the UK with Brexit and farage and galloway?

The US needs a new McCarthy shit like nate smith of the texas independemce movment rubbing sholders with the mocsow Run IRSP in red square and the california calexit movement having a fucking office in Moscow

>>64497568
>calexit movement having a fucking office in Moscow
NO ELECTUON INTERFERENCE OCCURED IN THE US

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_California

"The campaign ran into controversy following allegations that founder Marinelli had received significant assistance from the Russian government in promoting his efforts. Marinelli announced on December 18, 2016, that the Yes California campaign had opened an "embassy" in Moscow as a cultural centre to help educate Russians about California's history, boost trade, and promote tourism. The Moscow office was partially funded by a Kremlin-backed charity linked to Russian President Vladimir Putin, while the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia provided the office space rent-free."

>>64497586
>NO ELECTUON INTERFERENCE OCCURED IN THE US
https://www.hppr.org/hppr-government-politics/2016-09-30/texas-nationalist-attends-kremlin-funded-summit-in-moscow

"A representative of the Texas separatist movement recently visited Moscow to attend a conference funded by the Kremlin, reports ABC News.

Nate Smith is the executive director of the Texas Nationalist Movement. On Sunday he joined other separatists from around the world at the Ritz Hotel in central Moscow. Smith was joined at the conference by Catalonian separatists and dissident Irish republicans, as well as east Ukrainian rebels and Azerbaijani minorities.

The conference was shot through with anti-American sentiment. After one 30-minute denunciation of American economic inequality, Smith said, “It’s kind of awkward I guess.” Few of the attendees were willing to hazard a guess as to why the Kremlin paid to have the separatists gather in Moscow. Smith is hoping for a Donald Trump victory in the U.S. presidential elections. He believes a Trump win will bring a surge of people looking to detach themselves from America."

>>64497508
I don't get the "NATO expansion" thing

I heard someone say it the other day and it confused me

Isn't NATO a voluntary organisation that nations choose to join?

>>64497793
Eastern europe is to Russia what mexico is to the US. Imagine the chinks stealing all the cheap labor by paying more.

>>64497802
but the people in eastern europe have higher standards of living than russia

>>64497793
the russian state lives in eternal jealously and seething that the soviet union/russian empire fell apart, so 'nato expansion' into 'their territory' is a sore point

but yeah it was basically a 'erm russia wouldnt be doing any of this if NATO hadn't expanded' which is total bullshit

>>64497807
Putin is trying to fix that.

>>64497793
Vatniks are constantly suffering nuclear-level butthurt that the "vassal" states they used to rule over are more prosperous, and have much higher living standards, than russia.
So much in the same way an abusive ex-bf might try threatening violence in order to coerce an ex-GF back into the abusive relationship, russia tries threatening eastern-European countries into joining their side.

For obvious reasons this rarely works, and the eastern-European battered ex-GF nations instead seek the protection of NATO-Chad.
This greatly infuriates the vatniks who proceed to throw wild accusations of "aggression" in every direction. Because violence and threats is the only language he understands.

Poland (and the Baltic states) is a particularly sore spot in this regard.
They ziggers are genuinely furious that the Poles, with the help of the EU, have reached a near-German level of prosperity.
They seem to secretly concede that such prosperity is impossible russia, and instead resort to try to bring the west down instead of elevating themselves out of poverty and slavery to corrupt oligarchs.

>>64497793
>I don't get the "NATO expansion" thing
It's an incel complaining that the girls talk to Chad except that the "Chad" is just some random guy that isn't sperging out or demanding they do anal on the first date which they haven't even accepted in the first place.

>>64497906
This war has led to me holding Russians in even more contempt than Chinese, Indians or other peoples.

Seriously what the fuck is wrong with them.

>>64497793
Yes but they are retarded
Russians claim Ukrainians are nazis only to be like "omg based" when they have an actual neo-nazi leading the wagner group

Tell me better, when the security forces with retirees, security guards, quarterbacks, etc. will go to war, and not just grab sick people on the streets and beat them. And who are all these people and what money are they laundering, I specially recorded these names from TV, I already want to vomit from these faces and from yours too!
Deputy Director of the Political Think Tank. Head of the Institute of Economic Research and Political Consulting...
Strategic expert of the Sonata company...
Director of the Strategy and Communications Center...
Center for the Study of Americanism, the Transformation of Northern Eurasia, there was also something about Europe, probably, they will study and analyze every continent and every country, as well as every our region, including the occupied one.
Chief Analyst of the Center for Strategic Communications and Information Security
Chief Political Analyst of the Center for United Ukraine. A great patriot, for the war to the last... Just a healthy young bull (like most of them (something). and not fighting.
Executive director of the center for applied political research! Then some dude, they didn't even write.
Head of the expert council of the Ukrainian analytical center. In another center-recenter there is already a whole expert council!
Center for analysis and strategies.
Center for global studies and strategies
Center for the study of political values
And here is already a whole institute - Central European strategy! What is this?
That smooth
https://texty.org.ua/d/socio/person/gladkyh-valentyn/
And they showed, some thuja is already sitting in uniform! Again, beastly PR on uniform? They write a political scientist. And he is sitting in khaki against the background of some panel under a tree.
Here again, we turn on Kyiv, and there is a face on the whole screen. Public association center for military history!
Center for the study of occupation.

Partner of the national anti-crisis group. What kind of beast is this?
And Musienko put on a uniform. Expert. Experts are already in the staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine or what?
The Center for Political Studies Doctrine, the executive director of the Circle of European Dialogue!
What kind of beasts are these?
They are carrying some kind of nonsense. There are literally hundreds of them, there are not enough names, they are stupidly rearranging words. Some kind of regular feeder and places for reservations.
There was an article on Pravda about the State Security Service in June, which has changed, and besides, 90-100% of security officers are booked, 43% of retirees are pensioners, security guards stand under every tree, officers can only be great commanders, quarterbacks are carrying nonsense, and the mindych steal...
https://www.pravda.com.ua/articles/2025/06/16/7517270/
https://enovosty.com/uk/news-ukr/news_society-ukr/full/2203-sluzhit-u-zsu-1-iz-40-v-ukraini-200-tisyach-vijskovix-pensioneriv-nardep
That's why it's happening

Another person fell again, tried to climb out of the 5th floor with only her clothes on, dismantled a window with her bare hands, and has almost a dozen injuries.

5 thousand out of almost 200 of those under 60!

Currently, the updated data looks like this:

the total number of military pensioners serving as of February 1, 2024 is 5,410 people;
of them -

under 45 years old - 770 people;
46-50 years old - 1,577 people;
51-55 years old - 1,878 people;
56-60 years old - 1,154 people;
61-65 years old - 31 people;
those over 65 years old - none.

>>64497802
>Eastern europe is to Russia what mexico is to the US.
Mexico elects it's own fucking goverment

>>64497953
No one shits on uother nations as much as jeets, after Russia is done, India will only exist in history books. Bad decisions, bad consequences, the world despises them, they showed their real nature the minute Putin started murdering people and act as a proxy for Russian proaganda against the US, EU and civilisation

>>64498016
>>64498022
The UKranians want to join the EU. The EU is not part of the US. They see Poland and other nations propering and free. They don't want to be part of your ganster state gulaghomo shit, who the fuck would? Suck it up.

>>64498048
I posed as an Indian on an Indian site and talked shit about Putin. They accused me of being from Pakistan.

>>64498025
No one give a fuck about your planted and spammed screen shots you sad zigger clown.

>>64497793
Russia is simply a bully that plays the victim when other nations retaliate at their bullshit.

>>64498055
Jeets know they are part of Putins mass immigration hybrid warfare crap against the EU and UK and Canada and fucking revel in it. BY joining team mudering Russian dicator they have convinced many people the solution to Indian hindu immigration is vastly less living Indian hindus.

>>64497953
>Seriously what the fuck is wrong with them.
Slave mentality. Genuinely.
For the last millennium the vast majority of russians have never been even remotely free. And excluding a brief decade-long period in the 1990s, a dark time when everyone was broke and starving, they've never experienced any kind of real democracy.
Instead of getting upset at their tsars for reducing them to destitute slaves suffering and dying in as slaves, they're easily manipulated by said Tsars into being angry and envious at the populations of free countries for living better lives than themselves.

>>64498016
>>64498022
>>64498025
Care to translate this schizo ESL gibberish into actual english? Also, what's with the obsession about quarterbacks?

>>64495097
>Ukraine's drone prank
How long before the US unironically takes credit for that too? Unironically as in they already do take credit but in that "b-but what if Mexico, backed by China, does to our airbases what we made Ukraine do to Russia's in le heckin' proxy war?" concern troll way.

>>64494194
i'd rather see zigger shills reveal their colors in the open for all to see than be banned by some janny because i called a tranny he will never be a real woman

>>64494363
4chan has been culturally irrelevant for at least a decade (all suicide at the hands of jannies btw). it continues to receive such intense shill treatment only because the boomer decision makers have read some scary news articles about it and zoomer shills watched some scary youtube videos. both being 50 times distilled normie tier takes published for clicks. shills kinda make it a self fulfilling prophecy that prompts more shilling but the site itself is a husk.

>>64498107
It's M*nBitch schizoposting again.
He's probably a homosexual Serb with severe mental illness, but some recent evidence suggests that he may be indian.
Either way, he likes to spam incomprehensible machine-translated pro-russian schizo rants here.
When he's truly upset he keeps spamming BBC and cuckoldry porn all over the board. It should be noted that everything seems to indicate that he personally enjoys that kind of material and obsesses over black dicks, he doesn't just post it to spam.
Regardless of what kind of posts he makes, he likes to pretend to be white by running his posts and image titles through machine translation to make it seems like he's from Scandinavia or an English-speaking country. He isn't.

Just report his spam and ignore his posts.
M*nBitch may be a brownoid, and a legitimately insane spammer, but he's persistent and he excels at ban evasion. He just keeps coming back no matter how many times he gets banned for posting off topic schizo shit, porn spam, etc.

>>64498107
NATO magically made Russian invade Ukraine because and everything Putin or the FSB or the KGB or the Communist Party of Russia did is somepone elses fault and other nations it invaed and occupied should show Russia more loyalty and live under impoversished Russian gansters because how dare they want to have their children want to grow up with a future more than grim. So Russia was in the right you see!

>>64493498
Canada has a longer coastline because of its islands.

>>64498312
For reference, he was posting almost the exact same shit and evading bans all the way back when the war started back in the 2014.

>>64493281
we literally do lmao
the funniest part is that it was thought to be against the rules of physics too, just shows how much the govt. is hiding

>>64498312
>>64498313
Okay.

What about the quarterbacks, tho?

>>64498459
The guy is legit mentally insane.
Don't try to find logic where there is none.

I still don't understand why you need US intelligence to find oil refineries
Seems like a quick google search at most

>>64496495
Guess again.

>>64496721
3-20 years depending on how bad this war goes and how well putin can name a successor that has any legitimacy

>>64498576
>successor that has any legitimacy
yeah no that ain't happening

>>64498507
i'm guessing there's aspects besides just googling locations.

experts helping pick targets so youre hitting the perfect parts of the plant that would cause the most damage/longest time to repair.
guiding the drones through airspace theyll be less likely to get shot down in.
making sure you're hitting storage that's full at that time

it seems pretty intelligence intensive if you're trying to get the most out of these strikes instead of just randomly hitting a refinery you found on the map

>>64498582
Exactly. Russia, starting at its imperial inception, has been essentially a large austrohungarian-esc empire that had slowly wilted off its periphery one onion layer at a time starting in the early 1900s. It's comical to assume that it has fully decolonuzed after the collapse of the ussr, hell it hasn't even given itself a ideological exit ramp that western empires like the UK and France had for their decolonization. What does that mean? It means when the economic war adrenaline fades and is replaced by a post-war exhaustion/recession, the remnants of russias periphery (buryatia, sakha, all of the north caucuses, turkic republics, etc) will first attempt to constitutionally establish independence so they aren't drained continuously towards the metropole (which has been their plan since 1991), but beyond that will require violence to assert policy goals since there is no cosmopolitan decolonization movement. There will be an ugly Chechnya across most of Russia, but far worse as russian minorities in detached republics will flee in exodus as they did in the Baltics and Kazakhstan, plus nooooks.

Simply put, Russia has it's final chapter already written since the initial invasion, but its up to the central leaders to decide how steep the exit ramp will be for the final form of the Russian empire.

>>64498612
This. Hell, the paranoia about it is ramping up with Putin himself nowadays.

>https://tass.com/politics/2039793

>>64498750

Putin is right to start to shit bricks on this. Ukraine has had Turkic and siberian battalions in its forces since the start of the war that literally fight for russian decolonization. Ukraine also assists Caucasus insurgent groups as of literally last month. There are also two separate russian groups that fight alongside ukraine (one being liberal the other ultranationalist). Ukraine also funds groups like picrel and gives them free gibs. It's an underspoken part of the war but ukraine is considerably antiimperialist in this sense in a variety of tracks.

It also gives putin extra ways to point at the perfidious anglos to try and whip the apathetic cosmopolitan into fear mongering about their nation being fractured again, reminding them of the trauma of the wild 90s (the same decade that radicalized putin in fact). If russia splits they'll be a bitter muscovite rump state that will be revaunchist but also too poor to actually take back their old land for decades, like Serbia. Putin realizes this but can't really stop what is already in motion without making things even worse. Russians will become quite bitter and continue the trend of lamenting about the lost near abroad, while the ethnic minorities thank God that they managed to claw themselves out of the burning carcass of the empire before they became yet another Karelia.

>>64498372
>we literally do lmao
substantiate your claims

the
>spy satellites can read the nutrition facts on your lunch
is some fuddlore that was universally believed by Tom Clancy-reading uncles in the 1990s but simply isn't true

>>64498837
>substantiate your claims
yeah, lemme just call up the people my father knew back in the 90's while he was in the military
i'm sure if they haven't died of cancer or are stuck dealing with the VA, they'll be happy to talk about the time they saw footage & images they still aren't allowed to talk about

you're the type of person who wouldn't believe in the SR71 pre-64, aren't you?

>>64498988
>appeal to my dad's friends' brothers' thirty years ago
oof
I think you're an idiot who believes superresolution is physics-breaking alien magic instead of introductory signal processing.

>>64498988
>it's not fuddlore, I swear - I heard it from my dad, who was a pog at an airbase in california and he TOTALLY knew some important guys, so it's true
you're dumb as fuck anon

He is in fact correct that what you see publicly isn't what the tech can actually do. Obviously it's not the "read a post it note" tier, but it's an order of magnitude better than most publicly available stuff on the market. Hence why real raw data isn't shared publicly, because it would give away just how good the capabilities are, and anytime shit has to be shared it's specifically degraded.

>>64499287
except we've had the real capabilities shown to us like pic rel

im sure youll say
>but thats not the super duper secret james bond stuff that we actually have trust me
to which you have to provide some kind of proof

>>64499340
My brother in Christ, that's exactly the point - what gets leaked to the public is degraded or variants using last leg stuff at best. Like how naive or retarded you have to be? You're like one of those people who denied stealth jets and bombers from being a thing decades before they got shown to the public.

>>64499452
this wasnt some kind of fake leak to trick our enemies lmao. trump fucking took a picture and posted it on xitter

>>64498066
Bully is too soft of a term. You find bullies and school yards and they tend to land on their ass after one punch. Puccia is a classic tyrant

>>64498807
>that map
I want to believe but with servile vatnik serfs you can never know. From what I have seen changs dropping the maks and expanding up north to carve up siberia seems more likely. Like out of that map pretty much north caucasus churkastans and tatarstan in the urals has ever shown any will for autonomous rule

>>64497539
>Every nation has problems with kremlin quislings traitors and useful idiots.
not every nation has a open fifth columnists as its most popular news host with an election influencing reach

>>64493253
And all those reserves dwarf in comparison to what's stored on Titan where you have literal oceans of hydrocarbons.

>>64497793
One of the most dearly held zigger delusions is that Reagan promised Gorbachev NATO would never expand eastwards. Never mind rusfrica can't keep to a single actual real agreement, they place almost holy relic significance to this back of a napkin non-promise made in the last century to a government that doesn't exist anymore. Even Yeltsin in his discussions with Clinton went off on half-begging, half-scolding rants about America "giving" russia Europe whilst they keep the rest. Vatfrica sees everything purely through the lens of master-vassal relationships and assumes eastern Europe to just be their stolen plaything and not individual countries with their own agency and desire not to be dragged down with the sinking russian AIDS plague ship.

>>64498582
>successor that has any legitimacy
I would argue that Petrov Jnr would be acceptable to the siloviki and could be made acceptable to the public.
He's technically on board with the war but not in a chest beating way so he can easily spin that as just doing his duty if he needs to distance himself from it later.