>totally isolated
>"You should connect with the trans community!"

>try
>every MtF is a lesbian, straight trannies ostracized
>all of them have the same template hobbies (Youtube video essays, speedrunning, gacha)
>Impossible to hold a conversation with them, they only want to talk about themselves
>only reach out when they're hurting
>get ostracized and demonized over anything and nothing
>no sense of optics at all

Why is the "community" so hostile and boring? I'm honestly thinking about just identifying as a gay man while popping pills I have nothing in common with any of these people.

>>40019795 (OP)
>totally isolated
nothing you think matters then

>>40019802
Instead of having a kneejerk Reddit response you should try to understand that transitioning and being a homo can be enormously isolating. It ruined my relationship with my family. So I tried to "reach out to the community" and that didn't go well.

> just identifying as a gay man while popping pills
why arent you already doing this

>>40019809
Because I pass and changed my name before I decided to. So everyone who knew me beforehand will think of me as a man, but randoms and people I met after transitioning will consistently refer to me as a woman, even if I insist or outline otherwise.

>>40019807
instead of having a reddit spergout tou should accept the reality that being isolated makes your opinions completely irrelevant

>>40019795 (OP)
The ‘trans community’ is filled with freaks of nature babe from diaper fetishists to race fetishists and even grown men who dress up like little girls… just make friends with cis ppl

>>40019795 (OP)
Because an incredibly rare brain condition cannot sustain a subculture so the subculture became a hive for gynephilics and autistics into biohacking, bodymods and live action roleplaying.

>>40019919
even cis people dont like him

>>40019795 (OP)
>same template hobbies
kek this is true for the most part, or they list pseud shit that they dont actually do or care about
>>40019907
what a braindead normie

>>40019956
>the special needs child thinks I'm normie
oh no, anyway

>>40019930
Zoomers might find it hard to believe but historically cis people were extremely cruel and exclusionary to people they perceived as gay men, which is what happened growing up. Now, as an adult, I don't even have the social foundation to begin building connections or friendships.

>>40019984
>I'm a gay man! I'm a gay man!
lol okay faggot

>>40019989
Case in point?

>>40019995
Why should anyone care about you just because you like dick?

>>40020004
They shouldn't and I never said they should. To miss the point this egregiously I think you have to be autistic or a sadist

>>40019795 (OP)
It's because at its core it is a community of mentally unwell people and the people that want to take advantage of mentally unwell people.

This isn't a dig just the facts. Also while being trans is an identity it isn't AN IDENTITY like people don't gain a personality by being trans but if you're a loser who wants to fit in and are trans you'll just take whatever personality you think will make you fit in.

>>40020012
Your point is that you are gay and no one cares. How tragic for you anon.

>>40019795 (OP)
>Why is the "community" so hostile and boring?
Because it's not a real "community"
Stop trying to find trannies to befriend, unless you ALSO share other hobbies on top of being trans
I've been in your situation before, if you only try to befriend trannies for the sake of them being also trans, you'll either run into psychos, energy vampires or normalfags who will bore you to death
Ideally you want someone with similar values/hobbies/interests that you'd normally befriend anyway, who also happens to be trans, and build from there

>>40019977
I am not OP. Also being isolated has no impact on the correctness of a statement. Take a basic epistemology course, thanks, cletus.

>>40020046
>you need a very high IQ to understand why I'm gay, actually
lmao

>>40020024
>Stop trying to find trannies to befriend, unless you ALSO share other hobbies on top of being trans
>Ideally you want someone with similar values/hobbies/interests that you'd normally befriend anyway, who also happens to be trans, and build from there
This is what I have been doing. Even online, there's like...3? Trannies I talk to. But I tend to get along "best" (which is still very shaky) with bi male otaku. And none of these are IRL, which is important.

>>40019795 (OP)
you already have your other "transbians are creepy" psyop thread going right now. why do some people feel entitled to have everything? also, you aren't a cishet male, perchance, are you?

Thank God my interests are theology and history quite frankly. I seem to only get along with Christian tranners I can discuss theosophy with

>>40020079
I've only made one thread, awfully defensive aren't we? I never even said "transbians are creepy."

>also, you aren't a cishet male, perchance, are you?
I'm a homosexual male bottom who hates that and takes HRT to cope.

>>40020089
>I'm a homosexual male bottom who hates that and takes HRT to cope.
lmao it's always the most pathetic losers who think they are too good for everyone

>>40019795 (OP)
transbians are literally just the final evolution of prison gay. you should pity them. avoid them at all costs, but pity them

>>40019795 (OP)
what country do you live in ?
if your american its not surprizing that people are not interesting.

>>40019795 (OP)
> every MtF is a lesbian, straight trannies ostracized
Real, felt out of place already but when others found out I was straight a few started to be very passive aggressive, was enough for me to stop going

>>40020097
ikr? she's so close to realizing what her cope actually is (it has nothing to do with dysphoria)

>>40020097
>lmao it's always the most pathetic losers who think they are too good for everyone
I've noticed this thing where transbians act like I'm lording over them or looking down on them when I literally never said that and don't believe that. It's really absurd to project your insecurities onto me so.

>>40020106
I don't, I wish I was a lesbian, instead I'm a low value gay man.

>>40020117
American.

>>40020131
you sound like you're just insufferable to be around

>>40020065
Adding IRL is what's gonna make it complicated. I don't have IRL friends with my same interests, so I compromise and share their interests instead.
For instance, I play FFXIV, none of my IRLs plays FFXIV (save for my gf). But my IRLs play REPO, or some other FOTM game. So I compromise and play their game with them, too. Stuff like that can go a long way, until you find IRLs with the same hobbies eventually.

>>40019795 (OP)
i read the whole thread and i did not discover anything about you beyond you're queer. what are your interests? of course if you try to make friends with others who made their sexuality their personality it won't be healthy normal people. you can be the cool token queer or you can be another cookie cutter freak.

>be me
>straight manmoder tranny and malebrained gamer
>everywhere i go there’s a bad interaction with a tranner
>makes every gaming group hostile or very uncomfortable about any mention of gender
>mfw i have pretend to be cisgay even online

>>40020060
You dont have to have a high IQ and it has nothing to do with being gay, you are just a slobbering retard.

>>40020155
>i read the whole thread and i did not discover anything about you beyond you're queer.
Well nobody asked.
>what are your interests?
I like reading novels, cooking, a little bit of baking, Japanese Role Playing Games, romance manga, also gardening but I can't really do that where I currently live so Idk if it would be fair to list that.

>>40020198
ooh that might hurt my feelings if I could read

>>40020205
When you say totally isolated, elaborate on what you mean.

>>40020264
I have zero IRL friends and have had zero IRL friends for 15 years.

>>40020273
So you have online friends?

>>40020293
A couple, but they tend to keep me more detached than their others so

>>40020273
hey can you send me a video of you farting i will be your friend if you do so

>>40020313
>totally isolated
I dont think you understand what that means.

>>40020328
I have IBS and anxiety-related tummy issues so I assure you you don't want that. Shutting down your random 0_o response.

>>40020335
I am totally platonically isolated in real life. I'm sorry.

>>40019795 (OP)
Let's think about this for a bit: what community would a totally isolated woman try to connect with?
The community of autistic narcissist AMABs, obviously!

because trannies are fucked up and most are AGP. they're mentally ill and the "trans community" is just a fetish community. any normal trans person isn't a part of these faggot spaces

>>40020353
Well people kept telling me to reach out to the trans community, specifically, like my therapists, when I told them I was completely uninvolved.

>>40019795 (OP)
what are you interests, OP?
i'm not here to ostracize you, just genuinely curious

>>40019795 (OP)
it's not really a "community" like a group of hobbyists, it's just narcissists feeding off each other, they do just want to talk about themselves, usually communities are selfless for their cause, but those communities are selfish narc bubbles

>>40020347
You dont have to say sorry, I just question when people post that. If you had actually been literally completely isolated I would have tried to speak to you.

>>40020370
Probably they though the cissies were isolating you because they didn't "get" you.
You should definitely check out some otaku communities that are dominated by women, like the fujo/yumejoshis, since you have that kind of taste it should be pretty fun.
Therapists have this very academic worldview, which makes their advices good only if you are the "standard" tranny. As you can see, your kind doesn't get tollerated that much, so you better try and see if you can find a therapist that won't know that you are a tranny at all.

>>40020399
See >>40020205


>>40020474
>You should definitely check out some otaku communities that are dominated by women, like the fujo/yumejoshis, since you have that kind of taste it should be pretty fun.
I think I would fit in very well with fujoshi. I don't know where to find fujo circles in real life though. But I badly want this.

>>40020347
>I have IBS and anxiety-related tummy issues
literally wife material but you don't even realize it....

>>40020536
You would not enjoy this in real life

>>40020550
i literally do enjoy this in real life. my first gf had tummy issues too and we dated for 6 years.

>>40020494
>I don't know where to find fujo circles in real life though
Probably comicons? Fujo cosplayers, "mangakas" that sell fujo doujinshis, illustrators selling fanart... I think they'll know something. Hope you live near a big city.
Never been to a comicon, though, so I don't know how to spot them.
See if they'll have a tokyopop stand.

>>40020571
Oh. Well then I stand corrected.

It sucks having to hold it in when I eat almost literally anything and having tummyaches when I get nervous but freely doing it and knowing someone got off to it would be a bit excessive maybe. I'd be mortified if I so much as farted once around a guy.

>>40020572
Do these things even exist in the west because the cons I went to [as an American] were very culturally different from, doujin culture in general

>>40019795 (OP)
Let's see what your hobbies are and what do you talk about in conversation if you're so damn interesting then

>>40020600
>It sucks having to hold it in when I eat almost literally anything
that's so cute and hot... would you let me rub your tummy and dote on you when you have a tummy ache?
> freely doing it and knowing someone got off to it would be a bit excessive maybe
i wouldnt just be constantly whacking off, if you were genuinely in pain and distress your comfort would take priority over my horniness

>>40020640
Read the thread, and I never claimed to be interesting. You guys really do love making up a guy and pasting it onto me

>>40019795 (OP)
>Impossible to hold a conversation with them, they only want to talk about themselves
have had this issue with every tranny I've dated, pretty sure it's a problem for the whole category. very few tranners are good conversationalists, but you can talk to them for hours by just asking them about themselves and negging them.
t. chaser moid that gets relationships by just listening to trannies yap and reading them

>>40020600
>Do these things even exist in the west because the cons I went to [as an American] were very culturally different from, doujin culture in general
At least in europe we have something along those lines.
I just checked and the cast of Heartstopper will be in paris and london for the respective conventions.
It's worth trying, since fujos are notorious shut ins I don't think they get out of their basement for any other reason.
Good luck, btw. Hope you'll find good company, nona.

>>40020205
>Well nobody asked.
true sorry for coming off confrontational
>your interests
it's going to be hard because they're all introverted. maybe you can't garden personally but maybe there is a garden like a botanic garden you can work at? our local garden has a hon worker lol

>>40019795 (OP)
>>40020020
>>40020024
for as much as queer but especially trans ppl advocate for community--they seem to have no sense of how to have one. there's no capacity for conflict resolution or disagreement bc the foundation of these community is self-righteousness rather than connection

>>40021907
It definitely seems like people instantly jump to cutting people off and trying to hurt others

>>40019795 (OP)
>>all of them have the same template hobbies (Youtube video essays, speedrunning, gacha)
>>Impossible to hold a conversation with them, they only want to talk about themselves
Autism
They were likely isolated to some degree meaning them developed isolating hobbies and didn't learn social skills. I verbally complained about this while in a group of these people and they got angry that they "couldn't talk about their hyperfixations". I'm also autistic but was forced to learn how to have reciprocal conversations, so hearing this excuse is draining.

>>40021907
>>40021975
they also founded their personality on feeling special and different and unique

>>40020084
>Christian
>theosophy
ooo youre going to helllll

>>40022162
They hate truly special and different people. Those are some of the first people to get ejected from the group.

>>40022217
anybody who remembers the obey pokemon weed ds 80s filthy frank trend from the 2010s knows that groups built around special & different people are actually highly conformist dating ecosystems

>>40022274
So where are the truly unique going? Isolation?

>>40022282
idk

>>40020012
Have you considered just keeping your sexuality private like the most of people and engaging with others on a basis of simple equality instead of making yourself (publically) different on purpose? Its worked for closeted gays for centuries. What people don't like is difference, especially willful difference. Just look at what other people are saying and doing and be the same. When people like you and you have a rapport established you can chance being different. This is the way socializing has always worked.

>>40022159
I was isolated and didn't learn social skills either but even I'm not this bad. I mask pretty heavily but I'm empathetic and self-conscious

>>40022403
I've never explicitly stated it. You can tell from physicality alone though but even if you couldn't if I'm the only one there without a lesbian flag on the water bottle or who conspicuously avoids bringing up relationships you're going to figure it out

>>40019795 (OP)

If you want to identify as a gay man go right ahead i am certainly not stopping you. Why do you want to be in the trans community anyway miss husstuss?

>>40022647
Read the freaking thread >>40020370

>>40020089

If you're really a homosexual male bottom taking HRT because you hate yourself than technically (you) are lower than them.

I am not going to attack you for this though, I also come from a conservative transphobic homophobic family and I also have this cope/fetish in my head that I forced myself to transition to escape being a "gay bottom"

But it's not real. You are a normal tranny with dysphoria. Gay men do not refuse to stick their dick in other men and take HRT to feminize and castrate yourself. You have severe self hating brainworms and anxiety about other trans women who you feel don't pass and are bad for optics.

>>40020182

You're really just participating in stereotyping and stigma here because obviously the vast majority of us try to blend in and stay out of trouble. This is why I can't stand man moder. You're ruled by your own dysphoria.

>>40022665

If your therapist told you to do something you should try harder and try to work on your self hatred because blaming and projecting your issues in other people is a hallmark of many personality disorders. This is therapy 101, if she sends you to some kind of supportive group interaction your job is to work on yourself and why you're in therapy not just immediately blame other people for your issues. Jesus christ.

>>40022679
Where did I say I wasn't lower than them?

And no, there are differences between trutrannies (AGPs) and gay men like myself. The presence of dysphoria doesn't matter, dysphoria isn't a determining factor (remember when "the community" called you truscum for saying this? Which is it). Real trans women (AGPs/intersex) have distinct physiological effects stemming from the underlying condition that causes transness, usually an autistic comorbidity too. They are taller because their body is T insensitive, and this means the body continues growing because growth plates don't fuse early. They are more proportionate. On the other hand, my physiology is that of a normal, short, cis gay male (gay 2D:4D digit ratio). This isn't rooted in brainworms but empiricism.

>>40022721
You're making a lot of assumptions, including that the trans thing I went to was for therapy. My therapists just told me to get involved. You don't know jack but just want to hurt me

>>40022803

>you just want to hurt me!

I don't, i want you to be happy, but now you're making me the problem here and one more cause of your unhappiness.

The stuff about AGP true trannies and stuff about being a gay man is internalized propaganda, it's literally divide and conquer classification. Do labels and sub categories really matter? They/we are all faggots born male changing our sex with modern medecine, everything else is just flavor text. I can question it and point out the contradictions but I can't make you let go of it.

>>40022918
are you mad you cant guilt normal trannies into standing up for your freaky self? are you mad you and your types spent the last decade destroying all good will towards trannies?

>>40023030

Are you mad that I pass 1000x better than you and am straight and have a boyfriend and a public facing career? Arr you mad that you're a spiteful self hating hon knowingly assisting in a divide and conquer psyop? Does it make you mad you're too weak as a person to lift anyone else up, or challenge harmful cognitive biases?

I'm guessing no you never self critique or reflect or admit fault at all, do you?

>>40023070
yea i am mad and no i dont really

>it's another hsts "i'm the only good tranny" thread

>>40023164
Are you illiterate, a few posts up I literally say that I'm worse and not even a real tranny and say this throughout the thread. Or are you projecting your insecurities onto me again (yes)

>>40023325
still wish you'd let me be your husband...

>>40019795 (OP)
"straight" trannies are gay men and "lesbian" trannies are straight men of course you're getting fucking bullied

>>40023568
I'm taken, I'm just platonically isolated.

>>40023615
Only the former is true but I openly agree, read the thread.

>>40023798
>I'm taken
oh so it's another bdd passoid thread got it
neck yourself

>>40024255
Where did I say I didn't pass. How am I BDD. Your responses are on autopilot and not even appropriate?

>>40024345
you pass and have a boyfriend. fuck off and leave us alone you fucking sadist

>>40024363
Believe it or not platonic and romantic/sexual needs are distinct and hence why there are different words for these things.

>>40024681
believe it or not most people dont have either of those needs met. kick rocks

>>40024712
Every other transbian has a polycule or gf or did at one point and those are actually harder to get and meaningful since women are actually picky, unlike men who will anything that moves.

>>40022217
yes
>>40022274
true
>>40022282
yes isolation, private journals, ai chats, and 4chan.

>>40019795 (OP)
So true. I hate trannies. Absolute bottom of the barrel in human capital.

I like youtube garbage and autistic games and im mentally unwell but Im mostly transbian but I wish you didnt feel unwelcome by people who are similar to me. I like talking to people with different interests and hearing about them because it makes my world feel less small. But it seems my class of human is out there giving me a bad name. Oh well…

I didn't read your post but i saw asa and just wanted to post my cosplay

>>40027941
Ur cute af. How tall are you. Are you cis or a passiod.

>>40019795 (OP)
public “communities” are always incredibly gay (figuratively) and mostly composed of those who are too toxic/obnoxious to have their own closed off friend groups. Just find a couple good friends and don’t bother interacting with normgroids.
I’m bi but I still get creepy rapehon transbian heckling/flirting when I would mention the fact that I’m dating a man in public tranny spaces. If I talk to my transbian/bi/straight tranny friends about it they’re just happy for us because I didn’t make friends with creeps who want to be sexual with each other 24/7 and see him as an obstacle to grooming me into having group discord esex with them or whatever. Just find cool people and get out of the cesspit together.

>>40019795 (OP)
>>no sense of optics at all
I don't really get whining about optics considering how its been the status quo for decades that they'll just lie about LGBT people no matter what, even those that are on their best behavior. The fact that the conservatives don't care about "optics" when they act brazenly cruel to LGBT people should really tell you how worthless it is to care about any of that shit.

We should start a community of trannies who act like actual people I don't like those weirdos either

Let me start! I like chemistry, computers, and I am a homosexual.

>t. confused (maybe) soon to be tranny

>>40028281
I feel like part of it is if you are socializing with your sexuality up front you probably don't have much else going on for you, cool people have actual interests that being a tranny is a mere backdrop to.

>>40029191
i mean i was a neonazi for a while and helped found an imageboard, I just couldn't do anything physical lol

>>40029226
wrong fucking thread LOL try to guess the context

>>40029117
>phobes make up malicious lies about queer people
>so therefore we can act exactly like their lies say we act
>no the phobes were totally lying, what do you mean??
>i can’t choose this you made me this way waaaaaa can i fuck you uwuw blahaj fuck you pick me bitch kill yourself
you btw

>>40028281
i see the inverse of this a lot where people who fit what the OP is talking about enter openly sexual spaces and even actively participate then act constantly put upon while pulling all of the weird flightly splititing "look at meeeeee" social climbing behavior in this really oddly toxic passive aggressive manner.

Feels similar to the TruTrans vs AGP shit because it's motivated by the same social dynamic that MTF's suddenly realize they have in closed enviroments full of seekers

>>40029117
Conservatives care about optics tho. It’s why they don’t celebrate some zesty nigga getting gunned down in Zinbawearoonia even if they think it’s kinda funny.

OP if you're trying to find trans community online, at least now, in 2025 (vs like...2005), please don't. Or at least, don't bank on it.

I have found trans community I would want to be in in my own community. It is hard to access if you're not in specific urban areas, and is always at least a little cliquey and drama-filled.I think that is understandable with a demographic that all basically has PTSD. But I like it, and all trans communities are not actually the same. sometimes they're worth sticking with.

I would say the best possible setup for me has been making one or two long-term trans friends IRL, and basically mutually agreeing to not be dramatic and annoying with each other and to try to work things out. (Dating is also a bad idea unless they're worth risking that friendship for.) Having people online to just ask questions of and get info from, and one or two people to go to events with, have the occasional lunch with, AND go to when you're hurting, is the best arrangement imo.

Poach them from a group or an event. get sick of it together and exchange contact info.

>>40029361
>Conservatives care about optics tho. It’s why they don’t celebrate some zesty nigga getting gunned down in Zinbawearoonia even if they think it’s kinda funny.


I mean, from a zesty nigga, it sure seems like they do, lol. If you're talking about them claiming that America is tolerant everywhere else is a shithole etc, I don't think they manage even a little bit to look like they're doing anything other than concern trolling when they do that.

>>40019795 (OP)
>tfw too normal for autistic people and too autistic for normal people
>spend my time alone watching anime/playing single player games/legos/etc

Seriously how do you connect with other mtfs/lgbt people? They're all either total normies to the point of having nothing in common or autistic NEETs, nothing in-between.

>>40027726
You are not the sins of your sister

>>40030287
>They're all either total normies to the point of having nothing in common or autistic NEETs, nothing in-between.

If they're at least nice and willing, talk to someone of one type or another for long enough, and you will gravitate towards each other's natures a little bit. you can often find stuff that you both like. games, shows, etc.

>>40019795 (OP)
>every MtF is a lesbian, straight trannies ostracized
this is so real
any trans/queer meetup ive been to in my city has 98% lesbians/bi trannies and its like their sexual attraction to women is the only thing that they can talk about

>>40019795 (OP)
>be normal
>ignore trannies irl
bro just pass

>>40031133
Read the thread, I do

>>40019795 (OP)
Hang out in the gay community maybe.

>>40031399
I have nothing in common with them because I'm traumatized but not sexually

>>40031416
Fair enough. I find them to be pretty friendly despite being straight-passing, but I only attend casually for karaoke events and shit.

So here >>40020370 you mention your therapist told you to visit the trans community, which presumably is in response to you being platonically isolated (as mentioned here >>40023798).
I think your therapist is correct in that you likely do need more platonic friends. But perhaps incorrect
that the broader trans community is the way to find said friends.
Personally I've never really fit into large groups of people, I just have a handful of close friends that I've picked out from various larger groups, many of whom were in the same situation.

>>40020347
Just stop trying, seriously Ive tried to be friends with mtfs irl and they either all want to fuck and refuse to accept a boundary and try to play mind games with you, or theyre not that way and they hang out with women. There isnt a trans community, there never was one.

>>40019807
You already pissed him off with the OP strucking his nerves so well that I don't think you'll be able to get any open discussion with him.

>>40019795 (OP)
Please dont lose hope :<

>>40019795 (OP)
Here's the real truth. People in queer communities are the ones who don't have the substance to integrate into communities that aren't based purely on identity.
You'd be better off deep in academia or doing an extreme sport or being a musician. There's community there. Just your inclusion is somewhat based on merit.
I've actively avoided queer communities for this reason. But many men are my brothers and many women are my sisters and I am valued for the worth I have accrued through action.

Community is for AGP chads. husstards will die penniless and alone after whoring themselves out to Indians on the street.

>>40036784
because integrating yourself normally is all fun and games until you find out people are transphobic and then you have this crushing feeling of rejection instead of just knowing ahead you'll be accepted for being trans

>>40019795 (OP)
>"you should connect with the trans community"

you fell for the oldest trick in the book...

>>40037258
Sure people are transphobic, so what. If you're exceptional, you can persist despite it all. Better than dealing with learned helplessness riddled AGPs or catty HSTSs. Got trans friends sure. But individuals. Fantastic people. I refuse to be a part of a community.

>>40037434
"If you're exceptional" Making friends isn't a contest, I don't want to be token transwoman explaining everything about it and answering a bunch of stupid questions to "maybe" be accepted and hope they're nice people after I've already invested my own time, I'd rather from the get-go know they're not going to be hateful for no reason.

>>40037467
I hate trans communities cause everyone just wants to fuck me and complain. I like what I'm doing because I get respect from men as an equal. People still want to fuck me but it's not the basis of like all interaction. I fucking hate having to put up so many boundaries just to even have polite conversation with these horny losers. The men in my community don't treat me like that. They consider me capable and we learn from each other and grow and cheer each other on. No one is being catty. This is much more valuable connection than just trying to make friends, and then immediately being thirsted on and considered for the polycule. I don't value that. Then there's just all the politically possessed losers who just winge and winge and winge and gossip and ostracize. I don't trust them. They'd have my head before they considered me comrade. I would rather deal with people who don't really know or care about trans people than whatever these hyper online sex cults or bastions of utter mediocrity have to offer. I'm worth more than just to be passed around by losers, smeared by BPD theyfabs and ultimately vilified and ostracized for some minor slipup

>>40037467
its infinitely more preferable to being stuck socializing only with other fag people, besides anything it literally fucking gets old at some point, i want to talk to normal people regardless of how ignorant they are of my condition

>>40019795 (OP)
>get ostracized and demonized over anything and nothing
i'm agp as fuck but i have zero real interest in reaching out to most other agps even though i'm the heighthon they go fuckin crazy for bc A. i hate casual sex in basically every circumstance B. i think drugs are disgusting and C. basically ever tranny in my area does both of those all the time and don't want to be around people who think like that

>>40019922
This desu
I'm still into bodymods and biohacking though, my third puberty woke me the fuck up. I'll get back on estrogen soon, but right now I need to go outside and find love where possible.
Connections have to be made, plain and simple

>>40037467
Making friends is absolutely a contest, didn't you graduate high school? Fucking retard. It's little wonder anyone who posts here is so desperate for attention. Why all the trannies dykes queers and spooks I met here all had drug addled crashouts or were actively abusing each other. It's horrible out there. Enjoy what few "friends" you have. I hope you can confess your sins to them too, sooner or later you're gonna have to.

>>40020084
>I seem to only get along with Christian tranners I can discuss theosophy with
Post disc
>t. Christian troon interested in the liturgy, theology etc

>>40037547
agreed with all of this except I want the AGP Polycule sex cult stuff.

That's the elephant in the room itt alot of people want the sex and they don't like the social dynamics involved.

I've literally seen agp troons thirst trap other agp troons then bitch about agp troon gooners giving them attention

>>40037770
lmao no it's not. You know when you've made a true friend and usually you know right away and there isn't any of that toxic shit. Your describing a clique and seem like a cunt yourself

>>40037820
>AGP Polycule sex cult stuff.
No you don't. Not really.
Those things are 9/10 times gonna be fascist dictatorships, future cult leaders intentionally start polycules with the intention of living together straight away and not doing any work. Trust me, you don't want to move into that house. It's worse than you think.
It sounds REALLY good on paper, but then you get there and your family still hates you when you get ostracized from the larger "group".

>>40037841
Yes I am a cunt. I'm tired of everyone's bullshit and lies, because I'm a liar too and I'm projecting it on you.

>>40037844
I know, it's just I see all these people talking about "muh real relationships" in the most frigid borderline sex negative oddly antisocial sense (hint normal people don't actually approach relationship dynamics this way only BPDemons do so they can justify splitting) while still doing a weird AGP trans version of "don't hit on me silly boys teehee" despite being incels with their own metaphorical sexual skeletons in their closet and I'm just like hello I'm a fucking freak, of course I want weird sex just without the sociopathic/bpd shit you described

Nobody is willing to say the quiet part out loud itt so I will. I want weird sex with weird people but not the wrong kind of weird and yes I'm aware it comes with the territory and is like finding a unicorn.

Nobody says what they fucking mean. Just don't be a abusive nutcase or fucked up on drugs 24/7.

It isn't even the "community" it's the fucked up comorbidities we all have and nobody is willing to say it

>>40037967
and love too, I think ostensibly I would also like love or whatever

>>40037967
Thanks for taking my bait, the thread needed to hear that too but I also wanted to hear it from someone else :P

Keep being you anon, I lied to you twice, so the shame is on you still. But this one is genuine, keep it real.

My work is done here. Thread? Discussion.

>>40037996
i have zero idea what your talking about or care. I just want a semi open circle of friends who share similar hobbies where people can trust one another and engage in intimacy both physical and emotional without worrying about toxic or abusive personality types while providing social support to one another.

If that's some gotcha I don't care. I don't have anything to apologize for. If the rapehon gooners were bad enough this meta shit isn't much better

Just bee yourself

>>40038048
Sorry about the meta stuff.
I hope you find what you're looking for. I do mean it, it's hard enough out there without freaks like me on the internet making it worse for, really everyone else on the internet still. But I'm happy the floor was opened up, at least. Peace (meant)

>>40019795 (OP)
drop your contact nonna, you might find someone cool amidst the retards in this thread

>>40038160
Don't do that OP.

>>40036784
Here's the real real truth. People are in communities because they don't have families. People come and go, family is forever. You're supposed to have a family.

>>40038160
I don't know. I've had pretty bad experiences doing that on this board.

>chasers
>boring people who try to initiate conversation once at best, have nothing of substance to say at all
>people whose entire personalities are drugs and maybe about the same dozen games trannies like (Souls, Elden Ring, Bloodborne, whatever FOTM indie meme game is out)
>people who only wants to talk when they're hurting
And the last time I posted my Discord here I got attacked for "being a whore" because "don't you know people here just want lewd shit." So no, I don't think I'll repeat that.

>>40037820
I'm the og anon you replied to. All the power to you. I did that kind of living for a while. It was fun. It did not serve me. I prefer being in a committed monogamous relationship. But that's my preference. Good luck anon, I hope you find the kind of connections you're looking for!

>>40038357
I'm in communities because I don't have family, I just have the privilege to choose a cooler community where I'm valued for my worth rather than as a sex object or political tool. But that's cause I put the time in to cultivate that worth. If I didn't have it I'd probably cling to the puppygirl polycules too. There's issues with being valued for just your worth too. I have to consistently be excellent, and I have to be no bother. I have one friendship group that isn't based on my merit. And it's a bunch of gamer bros from a different country who knew me pre transition. I like that those guys are there for me. I really value those guys.
The other problem with trying to find community the way I've gone about it is just, I've run into a lot of very bad people, some genuine monsters who have done genuinely evil things and gotten very close to these people before finding out just how deep their issues go. The people I've been closest to in my life have all been schizophrenic and half of those people were also dangerous. I miss them. I really don't fit in anywhere but the only people who really keep me around are intensely damaged and very specific individuals, and people who require my skill. I don't know exactly what I'm looking for these days, I think I want some more IRL friends. I'm missing the people I used to see all the time but some of them are in jail and others probably should be in jail and through association and because I was extremely traumatized and strange and difficult to handle over the last few years, only the damaged people I know who are benign understand me and want to deal with me. I can put up a mask but it puts so much distance between me and people and if it slips most people don't want anything to do with me.

>>40019795 (OP)
What kinda stuff are you into/like talking about OP?

>>40040985
Read the thread >>40020205

>>40041020
sorry im stupid and illiterate
>>40020205
Favorite game and favorite book? I haven't sat down to read a book in a long long time, I'd take some recommendations. I'm also in the same boat when it comes to gardening, I'd love to grow some flowers but my apartment is too small for it

Stop socializing with leftysharts there's plenty of based terminally online trannies out there