I was always a man and that cannot change
I am sorry fr wanting to become a girl
that is fake and not what trans people actually(girls who change their bodies to eb ok with themselves)
im detransing after years of hormones
Socially I was mostly male anyway
I wil go to a braber tmr to donate my long hair
gn <3

>>40037644 (OP)
i forgive you i wish you a good life

>>40037644 (OP)
the girlthoughts never go away nonny
no matter how hard you rep

>>40037804
There are no girl thoughts though <3
I know it now
There is no girl or girl thoughts
I’m
Free

>>40037644 (OP)
I forgive you and wish you peace and happiness
>>40037804
>girlthoughts
stfu groomer

Soooo in the DSM V one of the six criteria for dysphoria diagnosis is "a strong desire to be the other gender"

You should read the diagnostic criteria and meet with a doctor because you might have been psy op'd by people telling you you were AGP (pseudoscience)

You should be really really careful of detransing like this. I cut my hair off and detransed at 22 and I retransed at 30, I really really regret it, it was the single worst decision of my life. I hated myself and was full of fear due to internalized transphobia. Post detrans repression can be so brutal because it's so much harder to break than layer 1 repression lol.

>>40037869
nta but i think i'll take your advice and get back on estrogen soon, detransed six months ago n i still need to get my supplier straight again bt thas my own prob :\
thx for the advice though, it's really scary out there rn isnt it

>>40037869
There is no other gender for me though <3
I was a true real man and remain so :3
I’m not feminine and my desires are vague convoluted and not really authentic!
There is no girl
Sorry <3

It hurts

Help me
I’m sorry
I mean
I’m sorry
I know this isnt real gd
I know I’m not a girl
I know I’m not trust and or trans at all
I know I’m a man and a guy and a dude and I do t voice train or look like a girl or am feminine in my behavior or smell like a girl or am a girl or feminine in anyway that is fossil even or subtle
I know I’m not trans or a girl
I know

>>40037920
nta either but i see you
i know you dont want to be seen, this is anon, but, i see myself in you too.
it's okay if there is no girl, honestly, just do what feels right for you, - i love you, but i could never express it to you in the way you need right now
i know it's scary, but listen to your body too, take some time, close the thread, enjoy a cup of tea or something. breathing would be good for you right now, no thoughts, just your breath, and don't get upset either when the thoughts come anyway, let them come and go and accept them. because i love you, but my thoughts are vague convoluted, and not really authentic. i've always been anon, a liar on the internet, but i want this anon to see that anon, and know that i love you too, the only way my stupid faggot keyboard will let me
because you might not be a woman anymore, but OP sure is still a fag
-anon

>>40037920
Why can't you be a man with long hair? Don't cut your hair. All you need to be a man is your penis.

>>40037956
This is pathetic
Why are you saying it like you want manipulate people reading it to give you pity? Like you type it exactly like this do others can guess that “ah this is obviously a repper let me pity them and give them affirmations or w/e”
So obvious
Fuvking moid kys
This is why we need to gatekeep

>>40037986
Because anon only knows how to manipulate.
It's why all of us are, well, anon. It's a genuine cry for help in a place nobody can reach anon.
So I told anon, I saw anon. So it might freak OP out enough to get the fuck off the keyboard and do something else. Because it IS pathetic, but I got a softspot for pathetic people. Even anons. Even liars.

>>40038006
Liar>>40037957

>>40038042
(You) got me :P
Always have been, but anon I can say anything I want as long as it's coated in enough irony. Not TOO real. Of course.
I need you to have enough empty spaces between my words to fill them yourself.
Do you get that understanding, at all?

If not, I have no further business here. You can self destruct on your own webpage if you'd like.
I'm closing the tab at the turn of the hour.

>>40038056
Oh you want me to stop typing and fuck off or something? I guess I’m not real enough even for this place?
Idk I’m confused ofc
Look at what I type
It’s all
So pathetic
Kms is the only command in my brain but I’m ok
I’m fine
I’m done
This obsession meant nothing right?
I’m sorry for being manipulative
I need others to tell me stuff
Even if it’s not real
Pffff
Imagine thinking I am anything but a pathetic male

>>40038170
as long as you didn't get srs everything will be daijobu

>>40038170
I lied again.

It matters to me still. Because it matters to you.
I wish I had advice for you. I really do. I just, don't really. I don't have it figured out either. I wish I could simply tell you to "take your time". But lately, it doesn't feel like there's been any room for it. I want to stay here with you until the end, in this thread. I really do. But, while I might be able to. I still have dishes to do, I hope you understand. I hope you do. I hope you can take better care of yourself too. Because I'm gonna be a man for a while, too. See how it goes. I always had that enby cope, behind me. But I know it's more than that.
I really do want you to be okay. Even if I've had to lie to you and manipulate you several times so I could communicate to you.
Because lying, really was the only language I ever learned. I forgot words have, like, meaning, until recently, and everyone picks up on them except me. Not, not really anymore. But. It's besides the point.
Please, take care of your self. It's all I can ask you to do. You've done so good at preserving it this far, you can make it a little more. Just don't let all the lies internalize, at least not anymore. Because I had to lie to you several times, so that I can say I'm sorry and I mean it.
I really do love you, internet stranger. The only way I can. Through being a fuckhead liar. Close the thread, maybe play a game you like to play alone. Listen to some music, /mu/ might have something on right now. It might speak to you too. Who knows, I'm just some dumb random asshole on the internet. But by staying here, you choose to harm yourself by exposing yourself to 4chan as a whole. It's a terrible idea right now, and I think you should know better by now than to pour your guts out for heartless strangers on the internet. I still love you, anyway.

-anon

>>40038247
I’ll go sleep actually
Soon anyway it’s very late and I need some rest
I found old photos of mine
I was so masculine as a young adult
I guess I was lying to myself. That I had done internal femininity
It’s ok
It’s fine
I’m ok
Goodnight anon. Take care

>>40038316
You're not. Neither of us are.
Spend time with yourself so you can like, meet the guy, or girl idk who you are
Goodnight anon, I hope you see another anon trying to love you with a mask on another day. It'll be okay, we'll be okay.
Somehow. Life finds a way, yknow? If I could I'd sing you a nursery rhyme and hold you like you needed to be held. But, yknow. Internet.
So, I can't care enough to do that. All I can care enough to do is to write that I felt something that made me want to cry here.

Thanks for posting the thread. Goodnight.

>>40038346
*thanks for making me think i shared your grief, even if i might not, actually
thats, really the magic of being anon every now and then. and thanks for making me wipe my own tears away, when i had to lie and lie and lie so you might hear me too. and hear my pain, too, just without saying as much out loud.

>>40038371
>>40038346
I’m sorry
If there was anything genuine and true and real in all my words I ever said is this
And I’m glad you felt something. Enough to lie.

>>40038399
and I'm glad you decided to be manipulative here, too. you might make for a really good writer someday, maybe try it out and just spill your guts in a different empty space, like notepad plusplus or w/e
sorry that i'm still here, and still in doublethink with you too. because i believed a lot of what you said, i believed a stranger on the internet for a change.

now ain't that somethin'.

now I'm outta here, hope you valued the empty space we shared.
i hear they archive these things, so you might revisit it later if you wanna
not that i'd know, i rarely browse this shithole anymore lol

captcha
0P(mas)
we should have a holiday for OPs, they make cool stuff sometimes for being fags

>>40037644 (OP)
GGs

>>40038435
Life is the greatest lie of all
So why don’t we pretend a little more?
Anyway. I won’t reply again.
Goodnight my shiny liar.
<3

>>40038643
Sleep tight, hurt one. Don't let the bedbugs bite again.
<3 you too.

THE END OF OUR STORY
FOR NOW AND UNTIL FOREVER
A STORY OF TWO STRANGERS AND THE EMPTY SPACE THEY SHARED
TWO MASKED PEOPLE THAT SPOKE OPENLY ABOUT DECEIT

no further replies necessary for either party
further discussion discouraged by shiny liar

this space intentionally left blank
because i'm only glad you could still manage to receive me in a dark place.
transmission end.

>>40038698
sybau

>>40039324
Kick rocks nigger.

Based. Wanna go fishing with? Im on the east coast.