>start to actually notice the misandry
>”no but this is still men’s fault somehow”
>”they just don’t have camaraderie [??]”

afabs when they don’t get 15 text messages of validation every morning for the first time

>>40043220 (OP)
The other thread is still up you know

>>40043220 (OP)
i actually have grown up like this ppl like picrel op are just stupid

>>40043220 (OP)
>afabs when they don’t get 15 text messages of validation every morning for the first time
Do men seriously believe in this? Wow imagine being this much fucking retarded.

>>40043512
When’s the last text message you got from an old friend checking in? Mine was 2 years ago.

>>40043220 (OP)
Woe to the vanquished

>>40043220 (OP)
wow men don't act like women

>>40043641
You would know!

>>40043532
9/10 months ago.

>>40043651
Yeah, as I transitioned more than a decade ago and have lived as a woman since then.

>>40043220 (OP)
Nowhere in picrel did that person blame men for this issue. Also I'm sick of ftms talking about "female camaraderie" as if its a consistent thing. If they were normies pre-trans yes but most of us were outcast freaks so "other" girls hated us.
>>40043512
All of the incel losers on this board have shitty lives so they think women have it easier by default.

>>40043220 (OP)
i think it's a lie to say there's no camaraderie in guy interactions. it is still there, it just tends to be more action-focused and less explicit "omg so valid". guys are turned off by emotions but they are also lonely creatures who will be loyal to their friends for life.

granted you still do have to fit into the guy mold to be able to have that, which is probably why the pooner is struggling

>>40043692
everything men do is for women
>>40043675
this is the average male experience which is way too common to just sweep it under of the "incel" rug

What is this obsession with trying to prove being a man is so hard and lonely, and so difficult? It's the easiest class to play as and yet they are struggling?

>>40043532
nta, yesterday

>>40043737
>everything men do is for women
now this is literally the incel mindset

>>40043764
It's the self reliant class, which is very difficult for women

Statistically speaking, half of men will not pass on their genes, whereas every woman will. Not to say that all women have kids but the statistics work out that way. And this is actually the best odds men have ever had historically, 50% 3x worse success rate than playing russian roulette. While I won't pretend like having kids equates having a romantically fulfilling relationship you have to understand how wide the discrepancy is. Male loneliness is the sort of thing most women can't parse since they have no reference for it. I couldn't begin to imagine what a period, or motherhood feels like. So accept that men feel a coldness from society that women can't begin to imagine. It's built into our identity as humans. To be a burden is worse than dying, that's not ideological that's lived reality for men. Society prefers them dead than redundant. Most of recorded history is spent writing down the various ways in which we would dispose of excess males since back then your odds of leaving kids around were sub 10%.

>>40043811
>self reliance is difficult for women
>women outpacing men in education and employment
?

>>40043220 (OP)
i don’t feel any camaraderie towards the male sex, if most men straight up disappeared one day i’d feel relieved that now i have less sexual competition.

>>40043220 (OP)
People who believe in male/female socialization are genuinely retarded.
Female socialization clearly doesn't work because I "grew up a girl" and have never at any point understood women.
Male socialization isn't real because because the way men act inherently makes sense and therefore doesn't need to be taught.
I might be biased though because I always found the sunshine-y way women act when they thought I was one of them mildly annoying.

>>40044299
May just be a tomboy, or whatever derivative of one you've ended up as.

>>40044340
Respectfully, nah. I'm dead set on pooning out (for reasons unrelated to socialization.)
Or maybe you consider ftms a subclass of tomboy, in which case... grim.

>>40044299
If male/female socialization was real then all these trans lesbians would growing up playing lacrosse and hockey, and all these trans gays would be growing up learning dance and starving themselves

It’s just a cope built upon the previous cope which has now become bedrock (like a lot of things in queer academia). Gaining prominence after people started pointing out large swaths of the “born this way” crowd don’t behave anything like their target gender they supposedly felt dysphoric about and “changed their body to be more in line with how they truly are inside”.
But even this stuff was built on top of the
>being gay or lesbian doesn’t make you any less man/woman
cope that we hashed out in the 20th century lol

>>40043764
The point of the "Male Loneliness Epidemic" bullshit is to radicalize young men against progressiveness by blaming giving women rights as the reason they can no longer obtain women by being mediocre. They want to return to the times of their grandparents where women had to accept garbage men because they simply did not have any other options

>>40043675
>All of the incel losers on this board have shitty lives so they think women have it easier by default
That's fucking funny

>>40044943
A woman in my shitty incel life would have it better thoughbeit. And that’s the most valid piece of reasoning

Gender advantage is largely situational because of extreme variation

>>40044479
>The point of the "Male Loneliness Epidemic" bullshit is to radicalize young men against progressiveness by blaming giving women rights as the reason they can no longer obtain women by being mediocre.
Why are women never barred from reproduction for being mediocre? The root of this whole problem is the wildly different expectations between genders in a society which is ostensibly egalitarian.

>>40043220 (OP)
I did grow up with it. especially being forced to hang out with girls till maybe middle school. it just made me sexist lol. I don't understand how trans "men" ever felt "sisterhood" or whatever with women if they're really men.

>>40044969
kek

>>40045024
because men have no standards. If a woman with no job and no education asked to fuck, the average cishet man will say yes. That is not a woman's problem

>>40044479
Mediocre men should be able to obtain mediocre women without difficulty thoughbeit
Anything else implies a distorted society where women think too highly of themselves

>>40045372
OP and her ilk are not really men, they're hefabs of the tumbliest kind

>>40044425
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say ftm's start out as tomboys, seems like a natural progression for a kid figuring themselves out. I'm just presenting it as a spectrum I guess.

>>40043909
>women outpacing men in education and employment
*with so many handouts they never do any actual work or study

bump

>>40043220 (OP)
Where did he blame it on men? Imagine being that retarded holy shit. What you interpreted as blaming it on men was him pointing out that the reservedness around him is inherent to his manhopd rather than how men behave. Never post again.

>>40046030
Evidence or nah
>>40044479
This makes sense considering what the cis men I've dated have been like