Tell us your best argument why a straight man dating a trans girl is NOT gay

>>40064415 (OP)
Because women should love other women

>>40064415 (OP)
she is a girl

>>40064415 (OP)
sexuality is a mostly biological thing (not the labels but the attraction) and the brain can't distinguish between a cis and a trans woman every time. plus people can overlook a lot for love.

>>40064415 (OP)
straight men dont exist and the ones that are the most heterosexual develop agp and troon out

>>40064415 (OP)
why does it fucking matter
>deleted "you pos"

come on cant anyone just love because of love and good dynamics and interaction and attraction and all the rest?

gracious every stupid thing has to be demonized by some label that some huge % of people say is horrible or "sinful" or the more common one here; "cringe"

if it cant mean more than a upfront label why be with anyone at all

>yes im defending chasers and straighties here

>>40064418
ok this is the best answer

girls do belong with girls

but i recognize most girls; trans and sys; for reasons i will never understand; need to be with guys

and thats okay!

>>40064415 (OP)
Both gay bottoms and straight MtFs share the exact same mentality.
I'm sure many straight MtFs are just gay bottoms that wanna be loved by straight cis guys, and that's why they troon out.

>>40064415 (OP)
You aren't gay unless they A: look like a man or B: have a penis. In the case of B, it's not get as long as the penis is a massive compromise and you try to get them srs as soon as possible

>>40064455
Fuck off

>>40064415 (OP)
>Tell us your best argument why a straight man dating a trans girl is NOT gay
idc, call me whatever you want. still gonna rail, kiss and marry a twinkhon into a loving relationship (one day)

>>40064415 (OP)

It's only gay, if it's due to a penis-obsession.

If she looks a like woman and SRS, why would it be gay?

>>40065141
By "the letter of the law", as it were, they would be.
I agree with your sentiment though.
It's about intent.
If you are attracted to the person in the pic because they are attractive, that's one thing.
If you are attracted to them because they have a cock, that's gay af.

>>40064432
Biology is a science that helps us try to understand the world, so its principles don't bend much as you'd have to throw out a lot of logic to facilitate someone's feelings. That's why it matters. Outside of scientific pursuit, it doesn't and you're right. If you love each other, leave the labels at the door and enjoy it.

>>40064415 (OP)
Gril phenotype

Gender doesn't exist.
Sex is a spectrum of biological hardware configurations.
Any attempt to designate one region of this spectrum as male or female is ultimately arbitrary.
It then follows that heterosexuality and homosexuality too are arbitrary.

>>40064415 (OP)
Is it less gay that I'm dating an intersex trans girl?

>>40064415 (OP)
the better question is why does it matter? I don’t sit there and scrutinize myself or my partner in terms of loaded sexual labels. what would even be the point in doing that? like how is that productive?

>>40064415 (OP)
It's best not to argue it and just enjoy what you like

>>40066713

Actually learn what sex means before you post retarded shit.

> either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions.

>>40066805
this definition leaves a ton of sexless people though

>>40066805
The idea that sex is binary is a very strong illusion, because the vast majority of humans do fit neatly into those two categories based on reproductive hardware.
Problem is, this definition breaks down when you account for intersex and transgender people.
I don't think I need to explain how intersex people break it down, its quite obvious.
Transgender people break it down, because the clear material reality is that they are more "female" or "male" than they were at birth. They haven't made it all the way, meaning they fit roughly in the middle of the spectrum, but they have made progress.

Both mainstream views on sex and gender fail to account for the actual material, biological reality of human beings. "Sex as a spectrum" allows for the accurate understanding that humans are fundamentally individuals with varying degrees of masculinity and femininity in their hardware configs.

>>40064415 (OP)
Because I'm into women and tits and hips. If she looks like a woman I'm into her as a woman. A dick and balls are a minor inconvenience

Attraction is based on femininity/masculinity and not on chromosomes

Bump

>>40064415 (OP)
because he wants to fuck a woman
it's homosexual, not gay, there's a difference

>>40064415 (OP)
because im gay and not attracted to trans women
stop trying to shove straggots in our community

If you put a fully cis woman and trans woman side by side. And the trans woman passes, it literally isn’t gay.

If the man can’t tell the difference how on earth could you possible rationalize that it IS gay.

>>40064415 (OP)
Because I said so

>>40064415 (OP)
Picrel would be gay because no boobies
>>40069812
>it's homosexual, not gay, there's a difference
Trvth Nvke

>>40069812
>it's homosexual, not gay
it's not homosexual either sexuality is a response to stimulus not magic genital chromosome calculus

>>40070230
no it's literally homosexual for two people of the same biological sex to have sex

>>40070285
by what standard? in my book attraction is a biological thing and it's gonna work the same for a straight guy w/ a cis or trans woman if he's attracted to her as a woman. if he likes the dick or sees her as a guy of course that's homosexual. but otherwise i see no need to be like "ummm the universe knows you're really a man sweatie"

>>40070320
>by what standard
by the basic scientific standard of 2 biological men having sex it's literally homosexual
as I already posted
which you don't seem to able to understand

>>40064415 (OP)
as long as they have a vagina they are material no different to a female

>>40070334
>basic scientific standard
im the one basing it all on materialistic biological reactions here
>2 biological men
again how is this not just "the universe really knows" when it comes to passing trannies? how is a man's brain gonna see a woman and feel attracted to that woman for her womanly features in an identical way he would to a cis woman, but it's suddenly different because of chromosomes?
>which you don't seem to understand
yeah i don't see how it's true outside of in one specific cosmological way with no impact on reality

>>40070391
>again how is this not just "the universe really knows" when it comes to passing trannies?

because if you're born AMAB and you have sex with another AMAB it's literally biologically homosexual

do I have to explain myself a fourth time before you actually understand this?

>>40070409
>it's literally biologically homosexual
can you explain why i should accept a definition of sexuality that doesn't reflect what people's actual feelings are on the ground? the way you do it is just category for category sake, unmovable, unchanging, unresponsive to reality. everything is always a case by case basis

my gfs dick literally just looks and acts like an engorged clit, and that is still the most manly part of her. in every other aspect everything about her screams "woman". call me gay if you want i literally dgaf but i dont see it so its funny to me.

>>40070454
>can you explain why i should accept a definition of sexuality that doesn't reflect what people's actual feelings are on the ground?

I already stated such several times. Sorry you can't understand that.

>>40070557
>sorry you can't understand that
me too

>>40064415 (OP)
It's not gay
but it's not straight.
It's the orientation you refuse to name, you fucking racist Nazi!