Thread 40087593

so, how often does this actually happen, tttt? did this happen to you?

>>40087593 (OP)
i was more leftist when i was a repper tbhon

>>40087593 (OP)
I've always been a leftist ,I just bekame more left as time went on
At one point I wasn't trans and a sertain level of 'leftness' ,and at a sekond point I was trans and more left ,but these are unrelated

>>40087593 (OP)
Transitioning isn't going to magically change your unrelated social and economic opinions unless you were a poseur in the first place.

>>40087593 (OP)
i was a pol using chud in high school circa 2016 but once i was in college i had to be friends with women and that made me into a normie and then i transitioned after graduating college

>>40087593 (OP)
That's not a change of ideology it's a change of gender role within the same ideology

>>40087593 (OP)
It has to have happened sadly no communist man did this to me

>>40087593 (OP)
I wish

t. leftist chaser with a massive jaw and a barrel chest

>>40087773
God why are men like you so hard to find

>>40087785
You need to make more leftist men
Take them and konvinse them of the merit of your ideas ,and when you do that they will no longer be hard to find

>>40087593 (OP)
Not me because I was born in the 90s but I went from Nazi to SJW 2009-2012

>>40088274
Well I try to do that generally but I don't want to make a chud chaser better I want to fucked by a left wing guy. Ideally while he's dressed as a GDR soldier

>>40087617
Same, but I think that might have more to do with getting older.

>>40088323
Take an apolitikal guy and make him a leftist
Its pretty easy to get people to oppose all the bafflingly unethikal stuff in sosiety when they aren't filled with right wing ,anti tranny nonsense

>>40088357
now im just like solidly a neolib and not a commie, doubt ill go any further right

>>40088323
Also you have to pikk a leftist ideology that isn't literally the textbook definition of a totalitarian dystopia lmao
Thats literally among the worst 'leftist' ideology lmfao ,if you want authoritarian leftizm ,pikk Jugoslavia or something

>>40088422
For my part I'm definitely still what could be loosely called a communist, but yeah same, I've gotten a lot more liberal and pragmatic.

>>40088509
If he isn't willing to defend the best country for trans rights he's not the man for me

>>40088394
I don't want a "leftist" I want a communist. Opposing capitalism is meaningless, you have to want communism. You have to actually stand for something, otherwise you're just whining!

>>40087593 (OP)
Sorta like that except I'm still far right.
Also I've straight up had a guy dump me after showing a before pic, he couldn't handle it.

>>40087593 (OP)
>becames apolitical nodder after being dicked down
depends on how good the dick was or how big of a simp you are who held no firm opinions to begin with

>>40088566
Holy based
Kounterpoint ,multiple other kountries are similarly trans friendly ,provide free surgeries ,and have legal protektions

>>40088587
Most people do have something they're standing for when they oppose kapitalizm ,it just isn't Stalinizm kuz that sukks lmfao

>>40088613
What communist country do you support man?

>>40088637
Also name a different communist country with free trans surgery

>>40088637
You present one to me that aktually has demokrasy and people's or worker's ownership of the means of produktion ,and I'd probably support that (at least that aspekt of it ,no way to know what other unsavory things it would have going on)
Anyway ,kan konfirm making men leftist is a viable strategy :)

>>40088652
So you can't name a single communist country that has ever existed that you'd support? The fuck

>>40088661
I'd rather fuck the actual stalinist funding my voice therapy

>>40088602
goonla

>>40087593 (OP)
still the left
t. repper

>>40088661
>>40088648
>>40088637
>communist country
Oxymoron Tbh

>>40087593 (OP)
Need to remind everyone here they will not be in the Vanguard after any Revolution. You will be killed off in the 1st purge. There is no example of communism that protected LGBT rights. LGBT rights have only existed on a narrow island between the extreme left and right on the political spectrum, under liberal constitutional democracies.

>>40088661
>"you can't name a single communist country that has ever existed"
Kommunizm isn't when the means of produktion are kontrolled by one diktator that just paints their regime red ,so one hasn't existed yet ,though Jugoslavia was a legitimate sosialist kountry and there have been other sosialist politikal entities in the world both now and history
Even regimes I'd support like Burkina Faso don't meet this definition

>>40088710
All your examples ,other than Marx who died 140 years ago and Allende (people kan have shit wrong opinions lmao) ,are authoritarian 'leftists' whic must appeal to traditional sentiments to have some base of power for their authoritarianizm
It was demokratik and egalitarian leftists who have aktually been the ones to fight and acieve LGBTQ rights by forsing these liberal governments to eventually give in

>>40087593 (OP)
>so, how often does this actually happen, tttt?
probably hmmm never
>>40087773
heterosexual white male "leftists" under the age of 50 are, practically speaking, nonexistent

>>40088602
god these pics give my chaser brain such a boner

>>40088779
>being working class and politically aware is unheard of for straight men under the age of 50
temporarily impoverished millionaires working off their student loans

>>40087593 (OP)
Nearly did, luckily my friends saw the signs and intervened.

>>40088804
Really daddy? I'm all woman now

>>40088810
are you going to get mad at me about it? call everyone stupid for disagreeing with you? you can if you want, and you aren't totally wrong, but it's still true.

>>40088810
btw if you have a student loan you likely have a degree in which case you aren't exactly "working class"

>>40088870
Nothing more stupid than dogmatic "lefitsts" idiotically clinging to 19th century conceptions of class.

>>40088865
your opinion is not only statistically but real life experience wise incorrect, not everyone under 50 is so retarded that they can't grasp class warfare as a concept even outside of "lets fix government being corrupt by giving them more power" solution
>>40088870
>degrees pay
jesus you're actually a boomer

>>40088779
never said I was white

>>40087593 (OP)
holy fuck this is hot.

>>40088881
never implied that you were. in fact your saying that reinforces my point

>>40088846
god you're so vile fucking MODS

>>40087710
same, but this was before /pol/. was just awash in ambient loser misogyny and befriending women in college turned me normal.

>>40087593 (OP)
>the instructor was a hot Indian man
Lol what strange kind of protection is this

>>40088971
it's a loo projection

>>40088870
Being proletarian is about your relationship with capital. If you work for a wage you are not a capitalist

>>40088745
Castro literally apologized for his treatment of trans and gay people and said it was a stain on the revolution. If you looked at what the people leading capitalist countries thought of gay people at that time it'd be far more unpleasant than anything a communist leader has ever said. The capitalist West literally found gay people in concentration camps and sent them back to prison for being gay

>>40088698
> Doesn't understand the need for a dictatorship of the proletariat to protect against capitalist interference
Read lenin
>>40088714
Idk man read lenin

>>40087593 (OP)
you fags argue too much, go for a fucking walk in nature you autistic no life neeting losers.

>dictatorship
>of the proletariat
>necessary
the problem with great leader system is that they stopped being so great after the great leader dies, then they become oligarchies of the most incompetent lackies that the great leader didn't purge because they lacked ambition or skill (usually both) leading the system to be ripe for pilfering by the corrupting forces of capital
did "read lenin" really not read history of any of the multiple communist countries that proved with tito that a) a great leader can make any system work if everyone just goes along with everything the ultra competent guy says and b) that it's more likely that some power hungry asshat (stalin, mao, polpot etc) is just going to be the first one to purge opposition and then leave behind a bunch of yesmen who will use the opportunity to live out their wildest most retarded dreams of being a roman emperor?
>>40089079
said the tranime trying to shut down conversation about sexuality and politics correlation

>>40089102
Fully agree, though I'd like to add the caveat that Kruschchev was unironically pretty good at his job and things didn't really go to shit until he was removed as premier.

>>40089079
Honestly yeah I think I'll do that. Ultimately I've said my piece and anything further is just pointless debate with anonymous person. Better to spend my time learning Japanese

>>40089154
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Khrushchev
are we talking about the same guy or is wikipedia full of shit on this guy, all he did was sit on a chair while wars were being won, fucked up domestic policies and got deposed by his rivals who didn't see him as enough of a threat to even kill?

>>40088992
It's so blatant though, even the BBC shit is more subtle.

>>40089102
Well I don't want a great leader style system. I'm perfectly capable of recognizing that the GDR and USSR were flawed both in their democracy and their leadership. Still compared to current shithole I live they are far better. I would prefer a system more similar to Cuba honestly. I'm just suspicious of so called leftists who are against any actual attempt at implementing socialism. At that point why not just be a reformist? To me a social Democrat is far more fuckable than a Marxist who hates all Marxist states

>>40088971
lmao i didn't even notice that the first time i'm fucking dying

>>40089201
If only Stalin lived another decade. The west would have collapsed. Krushev was such an idiot. North Korea wouldn't be a defacto monarchy and Pol Pot would have never happened if it weren't for Krushev

ideology is the mind killer and an empty hole people throw their hopes, rage, fear, and belief into. It is the insidious modern perspective that the unconscious can be controlled through a system of ideas masquerading as rational.
That meaning can be derived in steering a blind ship towards some utopian port. No one sets the sails, no one organizes the crew, no one stocks decks. Instead we have a ship full of self righteous captains bickering about the right way to turn a wheel so we can magically steer into a port that hasn’t been built yet. The discussions pertain only ever to the context of individual ideologies. Ever in the abstract decedent boxes of individualistic perspectives scraping at truth yet only able to reach a moral language limply engaged to whip your ideological lessers into action.
Yet another consequence of the death of God.

>>40087593 (OP)
>browsing /pol/ since 14
>MAGA
>trans porn since 18
>dated but lost all interest
>trooned out
>political opinion: I just want be left alone

>>40089261
same but without the >trooned out

>>40089032
You'd notise what I said literally inkludes the fakt that the kapitalists were hostile to gay people before being forsed to aksept them

>>40089061
>"Idk man read lenin"
I have ,things like demokratik sentrializm are still bad ideas that have diktatorship built in ,when the party is 'demokratik' but the party leadership desides who is in the party ,and therefore who is able to vote

>>40089102
Yeah pretty muc

>>40089235
Stalin was still a miserable konservative in red klothing ,who squandered and squashed the last bits of sosietal progress Lenin left behind

>>40088602
Wow, you're hot

>>40087593 (OP)
Wait lmao is this an indian guy's projection?

>>40087593 (OP)
I kinda chilled out on the far right stuff but I’m from a good family so I could never become an outright leftist
Getting fucked into submission by a dirty working class man is a hot fantasy though desu I can’t lie

>>40087593 (OP)
I did not transition because of a fetish and as such I did not 180 on all my positions nor do I think that women dont have their own political thoughts

>>40089254
ideology is such a fucking pit of tribalism, almost a replacement for religion, and its why everyone hates trans ppl these days. i think ppl should just find specific political niches to become somewhat educated about and go from there, bc there is no grand theory of everything and you can't be an expert on all topics. You could learn a lot about energy policy and your utility companies, you could learn about residential zoning, local primary school education policy, or spend a lot of time learning about int'l trade from Malaysia. ideology isn't the only guide, your own empathy and sense of right and wrong can guide you as well. then maybe there'd be less hate

>>40089102
This is the tragedy of politics and history. Great men lead great societies/empires regardless of the specific systems they put in place because they are hyper competent. Genghis Khan is an incredible albeit extreme example. Long standing and successful systems of government require robust bureaucracies and a capable and informed populace that understands the purpose and functions of those bureaucracies. This kind of government infrastructure and capable public is difficult to establish and requires constant maintenance. It is highly susceptible to being undermined by bad actors, especially in the case of an early death of a great leader. America did it very well for a time with a system that selected hyper competent leaders that actively sought robust bureaucracy. However, the competency of the general public was undermined, and America has been in freefall for the last 40 years as they internally dismantle their bureaucratic infrastructure. although china grows under the guidance of Xi Jin Ping, it will be tested when he dies if he has not created sufficient infrastructure to fill the vacuum of his leadership.

I was never really a /pol/ chud besides when I was 14 so that doesn't count, I was more just like Hank Hill mixed with Archie Bunker (both characters people said I reminded them of), now I am pretty similar but at least the inner demons make sense and i can sing at parties.

I was really right-wing up until I actually went to college, as I was raised by a very far-right family (to the point that they had Nazi flags and other such things). Once I got away from them for a while, I realized that they made my life miserable (I feel that no white nationalist can ever be a truly good parent) and I moved away from their ideology from there.

>>40087773
I'm not a fascist but u can fuck the liberalism out of me if u like

not true since men who are fit are stereotyped to be right winged

>>40091181
what you don’t yet understand is that your response is ideological. Note I specifically defined ideology as an unconscious system of ideas. Your response is one informed by past experience, environment, biology, and maybe something metaphysical if that gets you off. Irregardless, you prescribe an individualistic self sufficient ideology which will falter all the same. Ironically in the same breath that you say there is no grand theory of everything, you proclaimed the answer to everything is to do it all yourself. Part of the horrible truth I am pointing at is that in order for you to find truth you must first fail to find it.
To explain myself a different way and debase my whole shtick; it’s like some backwards ass kind of zen Buddhist Marxist bullshit, ya feel me? The answer is to forgo the answer, the truth is the absences of truth, your frame is frameless. The only correct action is action.
You have already lost yourself in trying to pencil down your answers before acting and failing horribly. As the only true way to escape ideology is to learn from failure while never assuming you somehow have “the answer”
I could whinge on and on how it’s not anyone’s fault but a natural consequence of the age we forgot how to live and how the relates to the dominate ideology of capital but then it’d be overstaying my pseud welcome

>>40087593 (OP)
Shit never happens and this thread proves
Plus it’s hotter if it’s a conservative man and a communist tranny

>>40091056
Obviously

>>40087593 (OP)
>how often does this happen
https://www.erome.com/a/QlyALQOd