why doesn't the trans community just gatekeep nonpassers harder? like 90% of our problems would go away overnight if we did this

>>40118514 (OP)
enforce manmoding and the problem goes away

>>40118514 (OP)
like i keep telling you, as a practical matter you cannot gatekeep speech and presentation, but can gatekeep medication and surgery, so gatekeeping just makes hons more common and more visible
reddit hons aren't going to stop posting pictures of themselves in amazon basics skirts just because the doctor denied them HRT. half of them aren't on HRT anyway!

>>40118514 (OP)
I have dysphoria, I need to transition the exact same way whether you like it or not.

>>40118705
you could get out of it by redefining “trans” not to include nonpassers, but fox news defines what a tranny is, we don’t, and they want us to be caricatures

>>40118514 (OP)
You're babytrans, you should go in the box too.

Thing is, in the end the people who care about ugly trannies are the same people who will hate me, thus it doesn't matter, nothing changes. Hons are an actually positive effect on my life, noone knows i exist, and, the idea of what a tranny looks like is formed by them, making my life even easier.

>>40118848
>the idea of what a tranny looks like is formed by them, making my life even easier.
How does that make your life easier?

>>40119411
It doesn’t. It just makes them feel better about themselves in comparison. But the legal constrictions on trans rights will affect all of us.

>>40118514 (OP)
Who says who pass and doesn’t? Idk if I do? I’d like to say u do. There’s also just some ugly trannies out there. Just ugly based off how they look. Not passing.

Experiencing adversity is a prerequisite to be a good person. No I didn't say "to be considered" I said to be. Easymode makes for a rotten soul. Passoids and youngshits are never good people, as this thread shows. They think they earned it. They are worse than nepo babies thinking the reason they're rich is that they worked harder and were smarter than everyone else.

I'm glad trans rights are being taken away because it will purify the souls of these horrid people.

we just need to rebrand transgenderism as a spiritual process of becoming a girl and then we can call rapehons morally evil and excommunicate them because they arent feminine because they are bad and then we will be accepted in the satanic world

>>40119548
honestly true i was very sadistic and evil before i was humbled by Christ with being a hon

>>40119411
it lowers standards for passing if the cissies think all trannies are incredibly obvious and therefore won't feel the need to scrutinize you

passing has been conflated with "i managed to post a single anglefrauded pic on /lgbt/ where i look hot" and i think that's a bad thing. OP, you almost certainly do not pass

>>40118514 (OP)
Not passing isn’t the issue. I will absolutely view someone as male based on a constellation of factors like their vibe, interests, mannerisms, history, etc. essentially the whole totality of them. but I’m not gonna throw my genetically unlucky sisters under the bus for one aspect that’s outside of their control just to get ahead or save my own skin. That’s disgusting and evil.

>>40119554
Good idea. Drop "trans" and relabel it something else. "Trans" sucks because one cannot change their gender (it's fixed spiritually at birth) nor can one fully change their sex (from a reproductive viability standpoint). Just make it a Goddess worship religion

>>40118847
you can't just redefine words on a whim lol the whole problem with hons is they believe they can become woman just like that

onky viable solution is total hon genocide, a panel of 15 or so passoids will judge a hon and determine if they pass or not, if they don't, death

>>40119411
Because everyone expects trannies to be ugly, and i'm not, thus i'm hidden.

>>40119519
I'm not american, i live in an actually civilized place and there's no legal restrictions incoming nor made up "trans debate".
Also the angloids made up culture war have nothing to do with how ugly some hons are, it is a calibrated political move to manipulate the electorate, nothing else, and, expecting that any change you could do to yourself or the populus would change anything is delusional, as delusional as you are in thinking you aren't one of the ugly ones.

you will never be one of the good hons

>>40118705
Complete and utter bullshit. Women gatekeep the FUCK out of presentation. In fact multiple multi billion dollar industries are centered around that. And I also know at p flag meetings later this month some not just unpassable but unpalatable hons are going to be told their complete fashion disaster looks are brave and stunning by chasers, and fuckheads.

>>40118758
Fine. Get your treatment. You cannot force other women to accept you as one of their own.

>>40118847
The word hon already exists.

>>40119411
In the same way that hot women collect uggos around them, and tell them that they're perfect 10's too. Oh, and of course clocking.

>>40119537
Every single other person in society. They make snap judgments on whether you're male or female, as well as extended evaluation, and have billions of years of genetic optimization for that.

>>40119821
I think the entire concept of "passing" as a binary is terrible.

>>40120978
>You cannot force other women to accept you as one of their own.
I don’t lol just don’t attack my presentation

>>40119970
No. Passoids should not be in this at all. It should be a panel of cis teenage middle school girls to college thots. And the standard for passing is do they accept this person in with their female only activities". Not simple votes of positivity. If they don't get ONE adoption, in time, then much like an animal shelter they get euthanized. In the mean time, shelter workers help people with fashion, hair, makup, and other finishing school activities.

>>40121000
If you don't want your presentation judged, you don't get to be within the vision of women. Social media included. You will not stop them.

>>40118514 (OP)
because you would be gatekeeping every early transitioner on earth

every person reading this was a "nonpasser"

>>40120918
>agrees with you
>”you are delusional and ugly”
wtf lmao

>>40120966
>Women gatekeep the FUCK out of presentation.
you're talking about something completely different. you are talking about women playing zero-sum social hierarchy games with each other in the medium of fashion, which non-passing trannies are inherently not subject to because they're not viewed as competition.

>>40120934
I am the best hon