Any Russian anons know how to get estrogen patches without prescription? I'm 18 y.o, can find a job to afford those. I desperately need hrt because i don't want to become a hon after 25+, I'm in the perfect age. Beforehand, I'm denying using gels, oral tablets or injections, they all suck and have terrible long term effects and risks, only patches, please. I would greatly appreciate if you shared sources, legal or illegal, i don't care. Ready to see your posts, sistas.

>>40122004 (OP)
step 1: get the fuck out of Russia

>>40122013

Have i mentioned my age? I have. Now think how I'm supposed to leave this shithole without money or visa and skills?

>>40122004 (OP)
You can just say you're scared of needles

>>40122004 (OP)
Why do you think the other methods of HRT have side effects that patches wouldn't give you? Also, afaik DIY patches are way harder to source, and will be much more expensive even if you can find a source. I haven't seen them before, but when trying to source T gel it was much more expensive, I could only find one source in fucking Turkey, and they never arrived in the mail.
There's nothing wrong with injections. The only side effects you should ever worry about is blood thinning (Which is rarely something you should be concerned about, and the risk persists regardless of the mode of absorption) and the side effects of AAs, which you don't need to take if you just do injection monotherapy.

Best case, go through all of the sources listed in HRTGEN. Good luck, but please consider injections.

>>40122042

This one too

>>40122060
Litcherally just take pills then. It won't wreck your liver like T pills (actual scam)

>>40122004 (OP)
Go back.

>>40122054

I don't mind injections into belly actually. Those are nice. And yes, I'll be doing monotherapy even though it's ineffective, it is what it is.

And, by the way, those hrt sources are for Muricans and Eurochads, i don't think i can get those things and ship them to the subhuman country of ziggeria

>>40122076

anon...

>>40122083
Why do you think it's ineffective?
>i don't think i can get those things and ship them to the subhuman country of ziggeria
There are other russian troons who DIY, I can't give advice on where to actually get it, but it's possible. Still highly doubt you could get on patches tho. Maybe you'd be better off getting raws, idk. Hope more russians reply. Gl gl.

>>40122127

T blockers + Estrogen is objectively the most effective path for feminization. I admit it's not completely "ineffective" but the percentage and time to pass is gonna take longer.

Thanks for wishing me luck though.

i inject EEn every 10 days into my belly after a year of estrogel and CPA. Even though I’m really scared of needles, it’s actually a lot easier than I expected. Plus, it’s much cheaper (and since I don’t have a job thats really important for me), so i will never switch back. most brewers send in stealth packaging. when I ordered from astrovials it took about 40 days to arrive, though. international shipment sucks :c

>>40122489

Are you russian? How do you order needles and estradiol internationally? I'd like to know the sources :3

>>40122577
well, i ordered from astrovials but there are many different brewers, you can just ask them directly if they ship to russia. then you just pay with cryptocurrencies (its not that hard actually) and once your package is sent you receive tracking number. there is no need to order needles internationally though, i literally got them from ozon lmao

add me on telegram @realsilya or on discord (realbarbariska) :3

>>40122031
>Have i mentioned my age? I have. Now think how I'm supposed to leave this shithole without money or visa and skills?
>18 yo amab in Russia
How are you supposed to not leave it?

>>40122004 (OP)
Пиши Цeнтpy T

>>40123159

I told you already

>>40122004 (OP)
you can't really get patches in Russia, or you'd have to order them from one of the sites on hrtcafe.net that is (which you need crypto for), they do ship to Russia just fine in my experience

in Russia, you can get gel or pills, they sell them without a prescription even if it says you do need a prescription. if a particular pharmacy does ask for a prescription just try a different one, most do not ask for a prescription
if you're going to be ordering from abroad better get injections they're way more cost effective
if you're going to not be doing that, nothing wrong with pills or gel
>I'm denying using gels, oral tablets or injections, they all suck and have terrible long term effects and risks
this is not true whatsoever. there is basically no difference between them. some MAY not work for some people, like some people being especially resistant to gels for whatever reason, in which case if that's you you'd need to try a different administration route, but basically yeah all of those are valid options and it is not true there are any especially bad long term effects or risks with any of them (to my knowledge at least, where is your knowledge coming from?)

you didn't ask, but they do also sell antiandrogens in Russia, specifically spiro and bica, which of the 2 you should probably get bica if you're going to get any of them, also sold in pharmacies without a prescription

>>40127101
>specifically spiro and bica
oh and also duta, but that's only for DHT

>>40123159
>just emigrate to the first world bro
not that easy retard, i imagine as a russian its even harder